This new Finland government sounds very good, they sensibly bringing in new package aimed at creating a 'hostile environment' for migrants! this will help the migrants get education first and benefit their own nations rather than being tricked by Sorosfunded people traffickers. Apparently anyone can turn up in Finland and use healthcare free, even though they've paid nothing + they get translators etc to help with all this. So whole of Russia could cross the border and do that, which obviously Pelle
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 1:09:18 PM UTC+3, The Iceberg wrote:Soros funded people traffickers. Apparently anyone can turn up in Finland and use healthcare free, even though they've paid nothing + they get translators etc to help with all this. So whole of Russia could cross the border and do that, which obviously
This new Finland government sounds very good, they sensibly bringing in new package aimed at creating a 'hostile environment' for migrants! this will help the migrants get education first and benefit their own nations rather than being tricked by
Whatever this new Finland government comes up with ... there are some good elements there and there ...but tons of questionable stuff....
It will be monthly 50/50 coin toss if this government sustains....
Personally I would give them some time to do smt. before final judgment (though signs are not so good....)
mikko
MBDunc kirjoitti 21.8.2023 klo 14.09:Soros funded people traffickers. Apparently anyone can turn up in Finland and use healthcare free, even though they've paid nothing + they get translators etc to help with all this. So whole of Russia could cross the border and do that, which obviously
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 1:09:18 PM UTC+3, The Iceberg wrote:
This new Finland government sounds very good, they sensibly bringing in new package aimed at creating a 'hostile environment' for migrants! this will help the migrants get education first and benefit their own nations rather than being tricked by
Whatever this new Finland government comes up with ... there are some good elements there and there ...but tons of questionable stuff....
It will be monthly 50/50 coin toss if this government sustains....
Personally I would give them some time to do smt. before final judgment (though signs are not so good....)
mikko
Hard to be worse than the previous one...
Will migrants move to Helsinki for healthcare?
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:01:53 PM UTC+3, TT wrote:Soros funded people traffickers. Apparently anyone can turn up in Finland and use healthcare free, even though they've paid nothing + they get translators etc to help with all this. So whole of Russia could cross the border and do that, which obviously
MBDunc kirjoitti 21.8.2023 klo 14.09:
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 1:09:18 PM UTC+3, The Iceberg wrote:
This new Finland government sounds very good, they sensibly bringing in new package aimed at creating a 'hostile environment' for migrants! this will help the migrants get education first and benefit their own nations rather than being tricked by
Whatever this new Finland government comes up with ... there are some good elements there and there ...but tons of questionable stuff....
It will be monthly 50/50 coin toss if this government sustains....
Personally I would give them some time to do smt. before final judgment (though signs are not so good....)
mikko
Hard to be worse than the previous one...
Previous Government...survived....
no significant achievements, no super flaws (but increasing debt.... but covid-19 and Ukraine as an excuse....)
Though I personally think that Marin (like her or not) was alone alone +1 billion euros+ for Finland?)
.mikko
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:
Will migrants move to Helsinki for healthcare?
No, they will not. This is because Helsinki is
the most expensive city to live in the whole
country.
br,
KK
MBDunc kirjoitti 21.8.2023 klo 16.48:Soros funded people traffickers. Apparently anyone can turn up in Finland and use healthcare free, even though they've paid nothing + they get translators etc to help with all this. So whole of Russia could cross the border and do that, which obviously
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:01:53 PM UTC+3, TT wrote:
MBDunc kirjoitti 21.8.2023 klo 14.09:
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 1:09:18 PM UTC+3, The Iceberg wrote: >>>> This new Finland government sounds very good, they sensibly bringing in new package aimed at creating a 'hostile environment' for migrants! this will help the migrants get education first and benefit their own nations rather than being tricked by
Whatever this new Finland government comes up with ... there are some good elements there and there ...but tons of questionable stuff....
It will be monthly 50/50 coin toss if this government sustains....
Personally I would give them some time to do smt. before final judgment (though signs are not so good....)
mikko
Hard to be worse than the previous one...
Previous Government...survived....
no significant achievements, no super flaws (but increasing debt.... but covid-19 and Ukraine as an excuse....)
Though I personally think that Marin (like her or not) was alone alone +1 billion euros+ for Finland?)
.mikkoHuh huh
Marin was partying during Uniper deals. Fortum lost something like 6
billion (6 000 000 000) euros.
Awesome deal...
https://www.uusisuomi.fi/uutiset/uniper-teki-lahes-kymmenen-miljardin-euron-jattituloksen-suunnitelmissa-miljardien-eurojen-investoinnit-vihreaan-siirtymaan/
Not to mention all payments to EU, green transition etc.
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 8:38:06 PM UTC+3, MBDunc wrote:Soros funded people traffickers. Apparently anyone can turn up in Finland and use healthcare free, even though they've paid nothing + they get translators etc to help with all this. So whole of Russia could cross the border and do that, which obviously
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:36:51 PM UTC+3, TT wrote:
MBDunc kirjoitti 21.8.2023 klo 16.48:
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:01:53 PM UTC+3, TT wrote:
MBDunc kirjoitti 21.8.2023 klo 14.09:
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 1:09:18 PM UTC+3, The Iceberg wrote: >>>>>>> This new Finland government sounds very good, they sensibly bringing in new package aimed at creating a 'hostile environment' for migrants! this will help the migrants get education first and benefit their own nations rather than being tricked by
Those would have happened regardless of Marin existence or not.Huh huh
Whatever this new Finland government comes up with ... there are some good elements there and there ...but tons of questionable stuff....
It will be monthly 50/50 coin toss if this government sustains.... >>>>>>
Personally I would give them some time to do smt. before final judgment (though signs are not so good....)
mikko
Hard to be worse than the previous one...
Previous Government...survived....
no significant achievements, no super flaws (but increasing debt.... but covid-19 and Ukraine as an excuse....)
Though I personally think that Marin (like her or not) was alone alone +1 billion euros+ for Finland?)
.mikko
Marin was partying during Uniper deals. Fortum lost something like 6
billion (6 000 000 000) euros.
Awesome deal...
https://www.uusisuomi.fi/uutiset/uniper-teki-lahes-kymmenen-miljardin-euron-jattituloksen-suunnitelmissa-miljardien-eurojen-investoinnit-vihreaan-siirtymaan/
Not to mention all payments to EU, green transition etc.
I have never voted her party, but I admit she has smt others just do not have.... presence? (there is no camera which would not turn to her, there is no mic muted if she has smt to say....)
Dunno about message, but objectively noted.
.mikko
And this is nothing sexist. Finland already had the sexiest PM in Europe. 15y+ ago. :)
https://www.reuters.com/article/tech-finland-sexiest-dc-idUKL0190833120061201
.mikko
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 7:36:51 PM UTC+3, TT wrote:by Soros funded people traffickers. Apparently anyone can turn up in Finland and use healthcare free, even though they've paid nothing + they get translators etc to help with all this. So whole of Russia could cross the border and do that, which
MBDunc kirjoitti 21.8.2023 klo 16.48:
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:01:53 PM UTC+3, TT wrote:
MBDunc kirjoitti 21.8.2023 klo 14.09:
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 1:09:18 PM UTC+3, The Iceberg wrote: >>>> This new Finland government sounds very good, they sensibly bringing in new package aimed at creating a 'hostile environment' for migrants! this will help the migrants get education first and benefit their own nations rather than being tricked
Whatever this new Finland government comes up with ... there are some good elements there and there ...but tons of questionable stuff....
It will be monthly 50/50 coin toss if this government sustains....
Personally I would give them some time to do smt. before final judgment (though signs are not so good....)
mikko
Hard to be worse than the previous one...
Previous Government...survived....
no significant achievements, no super flaws (but increasing debt.... but covid-19 and Ukraine as an excuse....)
Though I personally think that Marin (like her or not) was alone alone +1 billion euros+ for Finland?)
.mikkoHuh huh
Marin was partying during Uniper deals. Fortum lost something like 6 billion (6 000 000 000) euros.
Awesome deal...
https://www.uusisuomi.fi/uutiset/uniper-teki-lahes-kymmenen-miljardin-euron-jattituloksen-suunnitelmissa-miljardien-eurojen-investoinnit-vihreaan-siirtymaan/
Not to mention all payments to EU, green transition etc.Those would have happened regardless of Marin existence or not.
I have never voted her party, but I admit she has smt others just do not have.... presence? (there is no camera which would not turn to her, there is no mic muted if she has smt to say....)
Dunno about message, but objectively noted.
.mikko
The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:
Will migrants move to Helsinki for healthcare?No, they will not. This is because Helsinki is
the most expensive city to live in the whole
country.
On Monday, 21 August 2023 at 16:22:55 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:
Will migrants move to Helsinki for healthcare?No, they will not. This is because Helsinki is
the most expensive city to live in the whole
country.
cost doesn't matter as they won't be paying for themselves, it'll be your taxes, so don't worry about that!
On Monday, 21 August 2023 at 16:22:55 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:cost doesn't matter as they won't be paying for themselves, it'll be your taxes, so don't worry about that!
Will migrants move to Helsinki for healthcare?No, they will not. This is because Helsinki is
the most expensive city to live in the whole
country.
On 8/22/23 3:51 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
On Monday, 21 August 2023 at 16:22:55 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:cost doesn't matter as they won't be paying for themselves, it'll be
Will migrants move to Helsinki for healthcare?No, they will not. This is because Helsinki is
the most expensive city to live in the whole
country.
your taxes, so don't worry about that!
Wait. Wait.
Do I have this right?
Reading the subject line: "Finland to deport unknown migrants to Rwanda"
I get the impression that any unknown migrant will be sent immediately
to Rwanda. So that if a Hungarian crosses into Finland and is unable
identify himself, he'll be flown, one way, to Rwanda.
Same for Italians, Americans, anybody.
I think that'll work very well--send a strong message that we want no undocumented migrants. If we applied it here to Mexicans who unlawfully
cross the border--send them right straight to Rwanda--I think the border problem will soon be solved.
My hat's off to the Finns! An enlightened people!
:^)
On 8/22/23 3:51 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
On Monday, 21 August 2023 at 16:22:55 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:Wait. Wait.
The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:cost doesn't matter as they won't be paying for themselves, it'll be your taxes, so don't worry about that!
Will migrants move to Helsinki for healthcare?No, they will not. This is because Helsinki is
the most expensive city to live in the whole
country.
Do I have this right?
Reading the subject line: "Finland to deport unknown migrants to Rwanda"
I get the impression that any unknown migrant will be sent immediately
to Rwanda. So that if a Hungarian crosses into Finland and is unable identify himself, he'll be flown, one way, to Rwanda.
Same for Italians, Americans, anybody.
I think that'll work very well--send a strong message that we want no undocumented migrants. If we applied it here to Mexicans who unlawfully cross the border--send them right straight to Rwanda--I think the border problem will soon be solved.
My hat's off to the Finns! An enlightened people!
:^)
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