Has 600 points, finalist, to defend in Cincy. I don't know how much a
R16 loss will make up for it, but it's possible he could drop 3 places
in the wankings.
--
"And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
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Remember this moment tennis fans. If Tsitsipas doesn’t turn things around, which looks quite possible, this is the last time ever a single hander was in the top 5.
Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:rTraditional
Has 600 points, finalist, to defend in Cincy. I don't know how much a R16 loss will make up for it, but it's possible he could drop 3 places in the wankings.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"--
Tsi is busy with more delicious stuff
Has 600 points, finalist, to defend in Cincy. I don't know how much a R16 loss will make up for it, but it's possible he could drop 3 places in the wankings.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional
On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 9:06:21 PM UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
Has 600 points, finalist, to defend in Cincy. I don't know how much a
R16 loss will make up for it, but it's possible he could drop 3 places
in the wankings.
--Remember this moment tennis fans. If Tsitsipas doesn’t turn things around, which looks quite possible, this is the last time ever a single hander was in the top 5.
"And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
-
On Friday, 18 August 2023 at 22:39:54 UTC+1, me wrote:
On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 9:06:21 PM UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
Has 600 points, finalist, to defend in Cincy. I don't know how much a R16 loss will make up for it, but it's possible he could drop 3 places in the wankings.
yes but it's not cos he's a single-hander.--Remember this moment tennis fans. If Tsitsipas doesn’t turn things around, which looks quite possible, this is the last time ever a single hander was in the top 5.
"And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
-
Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:rTraditional
Has 600 points, finalist, to defend in Cincy. I don't know how much a R16 loss will make up for it, but it's possible he could drop 3 places in the wankings.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"--
Tsi is busy with more delicious stuff
On 8/18/2023 6:16 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r>> Has 600 points, finalist, to defend in Cincy. I don't know how much a R16 loss will make up for it, but it's possible he could drop 3 places in thewankings.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional> > Tsi is busy with more delicious stuffPaula Badosa is easy on the eyes, that is for sure. I hope she returns to the tour soon.-- ---------------
[...] I still follow him though, because there are *no*
other single handers about that are capable of achieving
anything and maybe there never will be again…
me <neilr76@googlemail.com> wrote:
[...] I still follow him though, because there are *no*Dominic Thiem has achieved something. For example, he
other single handers about that are capable of achieving
anything and maybe there never will be again…
has beaten Nadal on clay more than once. What is more,
he won the US Open a while back. It was a great match
and Thiem was the first player ever to win the US
Open final coming back from 2-0 sets down.
But it is true that his comeback has been, well, a big
disaster to put it bluntly. When he returned to the
ATP Tour, I guess he lost something like 14-15 matches
straight, and it has not been easy after that either.
His ranking is now 83. He recently reached the final
in a clay-court ATP250 event in Austria, but lost
clearly to the small Argentinian guy... Not Diego
Schwartzmann... I had to use Google: Sebastian Baez.
br,
KK
I fear [Dominic Thiem] is done.
me <nei...@googlemail.com> wrote:
[...] I still follow him though, because there are *no*Dominic Thiem has achieved something. For example, he
other single handers about that are capable of achieving
anything and maybe there never will be again…
has beaten Nadal on clay more than once. What is more,
he won the US Open a while back. It was a great match
and Thiem was the first player ever to win the US
Open final coming back from 2-0 sets down.
But it is true that his comeback has been, well, a big
disaster to put it bluntly. When he returned to the
ATP Tour, I guess he lost something like 14-15 matches
straight, and it has not been easy after that either.
His ranking is now 83. He recently reached the final
in a clay-court ATP250 event in Austria, but lost
clearly to the small Argentinian guy... Not Diego
Schwartzmann... I had to use Google: Sebastian Baez.
br,
KK
On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 8:23:15 PM UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
me <nei...@googlemail.com> wrote:
[...] I still follow him though, because there are *no*Dominic Thiem has achieved something. For example, he
other single handers about that are capable of achieving
anything and maybe there never will be again…
has beaten Nadal on clay more than once. What is more,
he won the US Open a while back. It was a great match
and Thiem was the first player ever to win the US
Open final coming back from 2-0 sets down.
But it is true that his comeback has been, well, a big
disaster to put it bluntly. When he returned to the
ATP Tour, I guess he lost something like 14-15 matches
straight, and it has not been easy after that either.
His ranking is now 83. He recently reached the final
in a clay-court ATP250 event in Austria, but lost
clearly to the small Argentinian guy... Not Diego
Schwartzmann... I had to use Google: Sebastian Baez.
br,
KK
Well, Wawrinka won three slams, but he and Thiem are
a shadow of the players they once were. The only single
hander capable of achieving anything now is Tsitsipas.
me <nei...@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 8:23:15 PM UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
me <nei...@googlemail.com> wrote:
[...] I still follow him though, because there are *no*Dominic Thiem has achieved something. For example, he
other single handers about that are capable of achieving
anything and maybe there never will be again…
has beaten Nadal on clay more than once. What is more,
he won the US Open a while back. It was a great match
and Thiem was the first player ever to win the US
Open final coming back from 2-0 sets down.
But it is true that his comeback has been, well, a big
disaster to put it bluntly. When he returned to the
ATP Tour, I guess he lost something like 14-15 matches
straight, and it has not been easy after that either.
His ranking is now 83. He recently reached the final
in a clay-court ATP250 event in Austria, but lost
clearly to the small Argentinian guy... Not Diego
Schwartzmann... I had to use Google: Sebastian Baez.
br,
KK
Well, Wawrinka won three slams, but he and Thiem areYeah, but Stan the Man is 38 years old!
a shadow of the players they once were. The only single
hander capable of achieving anything now is Tsitsipas.
Thiem is still only 29 years and could continue playing
for 10 years if he could play well again.
br,
KK
On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 11:01:09AM UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> me <nei...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 8:23:15PM UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote: > >> me <nei...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> > [...] I still followhim though, because there are *no* > >> > other single handers about that are capable of achieving > >> > anything and maybe there never will be again… > >> Dominic Thiem has achieved something. For example, he > >> has beaten Nadal on clay more than
I think the chances of him getting back anywhere
close to his old level is effectively zero. This
is not a dip in form, he has been awful for
nearly three years now.
me <neilr76@googlemail.com> wrote:
I think the chances of him getting back anywhereIt is true that most of his results have been very
close to his old level is effectively zero. This
is not a dip in form, he has been awful for
nearly three years now.
bad, but please note that he did make it to the Kitzbuhel
ATP250 final in Austria. This tournament was played
on clay only about two weeks ago:
https://www.atptour.com/en/scores/archive/kitzbuhel/319/2023/results
I still have some hope left, but you are right in that
returning to the Top 10 will be very difficult for him.
br,
KK
I watched him a lot when he was in the top 10. I enjoyed his style of playing but had the distinct impression that he was playing at the
ragged edge of his ability. By this I mean that he had to be at 95+% all
the time, no margin for off days.
This may not be true, but maybe he was right at the redline all the
time. If so, now when he is off, he is no longer able to make the grade
to top 10. This is also true of Rublev, who is always at 95+% to be
where he is at now. He's just not as good as Thiem was.
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