• (OT) Icebear was right: it IS the green transition

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 15 14:28:36 2023
    Look at this, Ice. Today at 20:00 one kWh costs 15.34 cents! Outrageous!
    For the rest of the day, the price is around 3 cents for one kWh. What
    could cause this, um, trend? Is it Putin? Is it Superman?

    It's the GWEEN TWANSITION!

    https://sahko.tk

    Ha ha ha ha.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 15 19:08:35 2023
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 15.8.2023 klo 14.28:
    Look at this, Ice. Today at 20:00 one kWh costs 15.34 cents! Outrageous!
    For the rest of the day, the price is around 3 cents for one kWh. What
    could cause this, um, trend? Is it Putin? Is it Superman?

    It's the GWEEN TWANSITION!


    More likely warm weather.

    As for "green transition"...
    https://i.postimg.cc/HnqYNDts/tuulivoima-hinta.png

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 16 18:03:00 2023
    On 15.8.2023 19.08, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 15.8.2023 klo 14.28:
    Look at this, Ice. Today at 20:00 one kWh costs 15.34 cents!
    Outrageous! For the rest of the day, the price is around 3 cents for
    one kWh. What could cause this, um, trend? Is it Putin? Is it Superman?

    It's the GWEEN TWANSITION!


    More likely warm weather.

    As for "green transition"... https://i.postimg.cc/HnqYNDts/tuulivoima-hinta.png

    Just saw this Sebastian Tynkkynen guy on telly yesterday. One of the
    dumbest guys I've seen in politics. Or anywhere else, really. His qualifications are thousands of max 140 word twitter messages. Matt
    Gaetz is an Einstein compared to poor Sebastian. The host could have had
    his PerSu any time but refrained for some reason. He did have his finger
    on the trigger. I guess you have to be mindful of funding these days.

    But the not-so-talented Sebastian hit the nail square on the head on one
    issue. That you/we/whoever have to take into account that apart from the
    one or two PhDs, people from PerSu are really from the backwoods. Bingo. Probably a statement somewhat inspired by self. I think he'll get a
    lecture for this at the PerSu HQ. "Let's put somebody else on that show
    next time. We need to shed this racist rube image".

    I don't know. Maybe it's the chart that reminded me of this episode. Did
    you make the chart yourself?

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 01:41:36 2023
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 16:03:03 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 15.8.2023 19.08, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 15.8.2023 klo 14.28:
    Look at this, Ice. Today at 20:00 one kWh costs 15.34 cents!
    Outrageous! For the rest of the day, the price is around 3 cents for
    one kWh. What could cause this, um, trend? Is it Putin? Is it Superman? >>
    It's the GWEEN TWANSITION!


    More likely warm weather.

    As for "green transition"... https://i.postimg.cc/HnqYNDts/tuulivoima-hinta.png
    Just saw this Sebastian Tynkkynen guy on telly yesterday. One of the
    dumbest guys I've seen in politics. Or anywhere else, really. His qualifications are thousands of max 140 word twitter messages. Matt
    Gaetz is an Einstein compared to poor Sebastian. The host could have had
    his PerSu any time but refrained for some reason. He did have his finger
    on the trigger. I guess you have to be mindful of funding these days.

    But the not-so-talented Sebastian hit the nail square on the head on one issue. That you/we/whoever have to take into account that apart from the
    one or two PhDs, people from PerSu are really from the backwoods. Bingo. Probably a statement somewhat inspired by self. I think he'll get a
    lecture for this at the PerSu HQ. "Let's put somebody else on that show
    next time. We need to shed this racist rube image".

    I don't know. Maybe it's the chart that reminded me of this episode. Did
    you make the chart yourself?

    this PerSu guy sounds a lot cleverer than most people with PhDs these days, they're mostly just lazy maroons who are so dumb they can't even tell you what a woman is and say there are 155 different genders! LOL

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Fri Aug 18 22:24:00 2023
    On 18.8.2023 11.41, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 16:03:03 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 15.8.2023 19.08, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 15.8.2023 klo 14.28:
    Look at this, Ice. Today at 20:00 one kWh costs 15.34 cents!
    Outrageous! For the rest of the day, the price is around 3 cents for
    one kWh. What could cause this, um, trend? Is it Putin? Is it Superman? >>>>
    It's the GWEEN TWANSITION!


    More likely warm weather.

    As for "green transition"...
    https://i.postimg.cc/HnqYNDts/tuulivoima-hinta.png
    Just saw this Sebastian Tynkkynen guy on telly yesterday. One of the
    dumbest guys I've seen in politics. Or anywhere else, really. His
    qualifications are thousands of max 140 word twitter messages. Matt
    Gaetz is an Einstein compared to poor Sebastian. The host could have had
    his PerSu any time but refrained for some reason. He did have his finger
    on the trigger. I guess you have to be mindful of funding these days.

    But the not-so-talented Sebastian hit the nail square on the head on one
    issue. That you/we/whoever have to take into account that apart from the
    one or two PhDs, people from PerSu are really from the backwoods. Bingo.
    Probably a statement somewhat inspired by self. I think he'll get a
    lecture for this at the PerSu HQ. "Let's put somebody else on that show
    next time. We need to shed this racist rube image".

    I don't know. Maybe it's the chart that reminded me of this episode. Did
    you make the chart yourself?

    this PerSu guy sounds a lot cleverer

    The PerSu fucker today got his appeal squashed on his THIRD conviction
    of defaming a group of people. In the telly show he was loudly declaring
    racism as "disgusting". Of course denying he ever has had anything to do
    with it. Despite the two prior convictions.

    *Facepalm*

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 19 00:04:37 2023
    On Friday, 18 August 2023 at 20:24:02 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 18.8.2023 11.41, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 16:03:03 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 15.8.2023 19.08, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 15.8.2023 klo 14.28:
    Look at this, Ice. Today at 20:00 one kWh costs 15.34 cents!
    Outrageous! For the rest of the day, the price is around 3 cents for >>>> one kWh. What could cause this, um, trend? Is it Putin? Is it Superman? >>>>
    It's the GWEEN TWANSITION!


    More likely warm weather.

    As for "green transition"...
    https://i.postimg.cc/HnqYNDts/tuulivoima-hinta.png
    Just saw this Sebastian Tynkkynen guy on telly yesterday. One of the
    dumbest guys I've seen in politics. Or anywhere else, really. His
    qualifications are thousands of max 140 word twitter messages. Matt
    Gaetz is an Einstein compared to poor Sebastian. The host could have had >> his PerSu any time but refrained for some reason. He did have his finger >> on the trigger. I guess you have to be mindful of funding these days.

    But the not-so-talented Sebastian hit the nail square on the head on one >> issue. That you/we/whoever have to take into account that apart from the >> one or two PhDs, people from PerSu are really from the backwoods. Bingo. >> Probably a statement somewhat inspired by self. I think he'll get a
    lecture for this at the PerSu HQ. "Let's put somebody else on that show >> next time. We need to shed this racist rube image".

    I don't know. Maybe it's the chart that reminded me of this episode. Did >> you make the chart yourself?

    this PerSu guy sounds a lot cleverer
    The PerSu fucker today got his appeal squashed on his THIRD conviction
    of defaming a group of people. In the telly show he was loudly declaring racism as "disgusting". Of course denying he ever has had anything to do with it. Despite the two prior convictions.

    *Facepalm*

    why isn't he allowed to do that? you lefitsts always claim to have a change of heart and do this all the time, you said it was racist to say COVID came from China until Joe Biden said it did, now you all say it comes from China, remember how you even
    hated nuclear power not long ago, why any different with this.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Sat Aug 19 15:32:20 2023
    On 19.8.2023 10.04, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Friday, 18 August 2023 at 20:24:02 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 18.8.2023 11.41, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 16:03:03 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 15.8.2023 19.08, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 15.8.2023 klo 14.28:
    Look at this, Ice. Today at 20:00 one kWh costs 15.34 cents!
    Outrageous! For the rest of the day, the price is around 3 cents for >>>>>> one kWh. What could cause this, um, trend? Is it Putin? Is it Superman? >>>>>>
    It's the GWEEN TWANSITION!


    More likely warm weather.

    As for "green transition"...
    https://i.postimg.cc/HnqYNDts/tuulivoima-hinta.png
    Just saw this Sebastian Tynkkynen guy on telly yesterday. One of the
    dumbest guys I've seen in politics. Or anywhere else, really. His
    qualifications are thousands of max 140 word twitter messages. Matt
    Gaetz is an Einstein compared to poor Sebastian. The host could have had >>>> his PerSu any time but refrained for some reason. He did have his finger >>>> on the trigger. I guess you have to be mindful of funding these days.

    But the not-so-talented Sebastian hit the nail square on the head on one >>>> issue. That you/we/whoever have to take into account that apart from the >>>> one or two PhDs, people from PerSu are really from the backwoods. Bingo. >>>> Probably a statement somewhat inspired by self. I think he'll get a
    lecture for this at the PerSu HQ. "Let's put somebody else on that show >>>> next time. We need to shed this racist rube image".

    I don't know. Maybe it's the chart that reminded me of this episode. Did >>>> you make the chart yourself?

    this PerSu guy sounds a lot cleverer
    The PerSu fucker today got his appeal squashed on his THIRD conviction
    of defaming a group of people. In the telly show he was loudly declaring
    racism as "disgusting". Of course denying he ever has had anything to do
    with it. Despite the two prior convictions.

    *Facepalm*

    why isn't he allowed to do that?

    He's allowed to do anything he wants. He's allowed to make himself look
    like a dolt too.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 20 17:11:36 2023
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 16.8.2023 klo 18.03:
    I don't know. Maybe it's the chart that reminded me of this episode. Did
    you make the chart yourself?

    Of course not. Think hard why the chart shows what it shows... pretty
    obvious stuff really.

    Oh yes... OMG cheap electricity cancelled again!

    https://yle.fi/a/74-20046065?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=yleuutiset

    Fortunately there will be some wind some time next week. Awesome.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 20 20:37:51 2023
    On 20.8.2023 17.11, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 16.8.2023 klo 18.03:
    I don't know. Maybe it's the chart that reminded me of this episode.
    Did you make the chart yourself?

    Of course not. Think hard why the chart shows what it shows... pretty
    obvious stuff really.

    Prices depend on two things. As ...

    Oh yes... OMG cheap electricity cancelled again!

    https://yle.fi/a/74-20046065?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=yleuutiset

    ... this should give you a clue. There's other clues too. Like different countries, different pricing structures. I'll leave it at that.

    Besides, we don't need stinking correlations. The question is settled
    already. We just need more seaworthy turbines. Tons more.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 02:53:12 2023
    On Sunday, 20 August 2023 at 18:37:55 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 20.8.2023 17.11, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 16.8.2023 klo 18.03:
    I don't know. Maybe it's the chart that reminded me of this episode.
    Did you make the chart yourself?

    Of course not. Think hard why the chart shows what it shows... pretty obvious stuff really.
    Prices depend on two things. As ...
    Oh yes... OMG cheap electricity cancelled again!

    https://yle.fi/a/74-20046065?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=yleuutiset
    ... this should give you a clue. There's other clues too. Like different countries, different pricing structures. I'll leave it at that.

    Besides, we don't need stinking correlations. The question is settled already. We just need more seaworthy turbines. Tons more.

    how much extra will that cost? or add to bills??

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 02:55:08 2023
    On Saturday, 19 August 2023 at 13:32:23 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 19.8.2023 10.04, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Friday, 18 August 2023 at 20:24:02 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 18.8.2023 11.41, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 16:03:03 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote: >>>> On 15.8.2023 19.08, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 15.8.2023 klo 14.28:
    Look at this, Ice. Today at 20:00 one kWh costs 15.34 cents!
    Outrageous! For the rest of the day, the price is around 3 cents for >>>>>> one kWh. What could cause this, um, trend? Is it Putin? Is it Superman?

    It's the GWEEN TWANSITION!


    More likely warm weather.

    As for "green transition"...
    https://i.postimg.cc/HnqYNDts/tuulivoima-hinta.png
    Just saw this Sebastian Tynkkynen guy on telly yesterday. One of the >>>> dumbest guys I've seen in politics. Or anywhere else, really. His
    qualifications are thousands of max 140 word twitter messages. Matt >>>> Gaetz is an Einstein compared to poor Sebastian. The host could have had
    his PerSu any time but refrained for some reason. He did have his finger
    on the trigger. I guess you have to be mindful of funding these days. >>>>
    But the not-so-talented Sebastian hit the nail square on the head on one
    issue. That you/we/whoever have to take into account that apart from the
    one or two PhDs, people from PerSu are really from the backwoods. Bingo.
    Probably a statement somewhat inspired by self. I think he'll get a >>>> lecture for this at the PerSu HQ. "Let's put somebody else on that show >>>> next time. We need to shed this racist rube image".

    I don't know. Maybe it's the chart that reminded me of this episode. Did
    you make the chart yourself?

    this PerSu guy sounds a lot cleverer
    The PerSu fucker today got his appeal squashed on his THIRD conviction
    of defaming a group of people. In the telly show he was loudly declaring >> racism as "disgusting". Of course denying he ever has had anything to do >> with it. Despite the two prior convictions.

    *Facepalm*

    why isn't he allowed to do that?
    He's allowed to do anything he wants. He's allowed to make himself look
    like a dolt too.

    no surely it makes him look good, cos you guys always backtrack from previous stuff, like Sadiq Khan who just said that putting "Doesn't represent real Londoners" next to a photo of a white family was an "error". This guy should just say that about any
    past remarks and we can all be happy, you'll have to accept that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Mon Aug 21 08:51:41 2023
    On 8/21/23 2:53 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Sunday, 20 August 2023 at 18:37:55 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 20.8.2023 17.11, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 16.8.2023 klo 18.03:
    I don't know. Maybe it's the chart that reminded me of this episode.
    Did you make the chart yourself?
    Of course not. Think hard why the chart shows what it shows... pretty
    obvious stuff really.
    Prices depend on two things. As ...
    Oh yes... OMG cheap electricity cancelled again!

    https://yle.fi/a/74-20046065?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=yleuutiset
    ... this should give you a clue. There's other clues too. Like different
    countries, different pricing structures. I'll leave it at that.

    Besides, we don't need stinking correlations. The question is settled
    already. We just need more seaworthy turbines. Tons more.
    how much extra will that cost? or add to bills??

    MONEY to be made, huh? Tons more seaworthy turbines...that wear out and
    need replacement/servicing at what intervals?

    These are not *bad* ideas, just insufficient ideas being sold as an
    immediate panacea for what ails the West.

    --
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "When I was back there in seminary school, there was a person there who put forth the proposition that you can petition the Lord with prayer...

    "Petition the lord with prayer...

    "Petition the lord with prayer...

    "YOU CANNOT PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER!"

    --Sawfish

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Mon Aug 21 19:22:38 2023
    On 21.8.2023 18.51, Sawfish wrote:
    On 8/21/23 2:53 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Sunday, 20 August 2023 at 18:37:55 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 20.8.2023 17.11, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 16.8.2023 klo 18.03:
    I don't know. Maybe it's the chart that reminded me of this episode. >>>>> Did you make the chart yourself?
    Of course not. Think hard why the chart shows what it shows... pretty
    obvious stuff really.
    Prices depend on two things. As ...
    Oh yes... OMG cheap electricity cancelled again!

    https://yle.fi/a/74-20046065?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=yleuutiset
    ... this should give you a clue. There's other clues too. Like different >>> countries, different pricing structures. I'll leave it at that.

    Besides, we don't need stinking correlations. The question is settled
    already. We just need more seaworthy turbines. Tons more.
    how much extra will that cost? or add to bills??

    MONEY to be made, huh? Tons more seaworthy turbines...that wear out and
    need replacement/servicing at what intervals?

    Wind (on-shore) is the cheapest form of producing electricity where I
    live. Likely getting cheaper still. Idiotic correlations notwithstanding.

    These are not *bad* ideas, just insufficient ideas being sold as an
    immediate panacea for what ails the West.

    Nobody is talking about panaceas. There's quite a few things that aren't spoon-fed to you. You just have to piece things together as best as you
    can. Of course there's a bit of sharpening of arguments around, some
    might call it trolling, but don't let that fool you, old man. Strawmen
    are strawmen.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 19:47:46 2023
    Sawfish kirjoitti 21.8.2023 klo 18.51:
    On 8/21/23 2:53 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Sunday, 20 August 2023 at 18:37:55 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 20.8.2023 17.11, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 16.8.2023 klo 18.03:
    I don't know. Maybe it's the chart that reminded me of this episode. >>>>> Did you make the chart yourself?
    Of course not. Think hard why the chart shows what it shows... pretty
    obvious stuff really.
    Prices depend on two things. As ...
    Oh yes... OMG cheap electricity cancelled again!

    https://yle.fi/a/74-20046065?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=yleuutiset
    ... this should give you a clue. There's other clues too. Like different >>> countries, different pricing structures. I'll leave it at that.

    Besides, we don't need stinking correlations. The question is settled
    already. We just need more seaworthy turbines. Tons more.
    how much extra will that cost? or add to bills??

    MONEY to be made, huh? Tons more seaworthy turbines...that wear out and
    need replacement/servicing at what intervals?

    These are not *bad* ideas, just insufficient ideas being sold as an
    immediate panacea for what ails the West.


    Apparently according to Pelle the wind *always* blows at sea.
    Except when it doesn't.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)