Vietnam veteran and film maker Oliver Stone has come out and said he made a YUGE mistake voting for the bribe-taking, war monger, Afghanistan wrecked Biden “I voted for him — I made a mistake! I see a man [Biden] who maybe is not in charge of his
own administration.” Stone said in a new interview.

If only our resident Marxist war-loving chumps Raja, Pelle, brucey, bmoore would do same and admit they should've voted Trump.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/07/28/filmmaker-oliver-stone-regrets-voting-for-joe-biden-i-made-a-mistake/

Filmmaker Oliver Stone Regrets Voting for Joe Biden: ‘I Made a Mistake!’

Director Oliver Stone said he regrets voting for Joe Biden in the 2020 election, warning that the president is dragging the country into a potential World War III with Russia.

“I voted for him — I made a mistake!” Stone said in a new interview with actor Russell Brand.

Stone expressed his voter’s remorse by slamming the Biden administration’s handling of the war in Ukraine.

“This is a potential World War III,” the two-time Oscar-winning director said. “This is the same situation as World War I, in a sense. The stupidity of it — because of the alliances and the fears and the built-up phobias. If we don’t stop this,
what Biden is doing, I voted for him — I made a mistake! — thinking that he was an old man now that he would calm down, he’d be more mellow and so forth. I didn’t see that at all.”

He added: “I see a man [Biden] who maybe is not in charge of his own administration. Who knows [if] he’s going to fall down somewhere. It seems that he’s dragging us stupidly into a confrontation with a power that’s not going to give.”

Stone interviewed Russia’s Vladimir Putin for his four-part Showtime docuseries The Putin Interviews in 2017.

Though he opposed former President Donald Trump, Stone lashed out at Twitter in 2021 over its decision to ban Trump, calling the move “shocking” while also criticizing the country’s growing trend toward censorship, which is being carried out by
social media companies at the behest of the Biden administration.

President Biden has boasted of his commitment to ongoing military aid to Ukraine — now at $43 billion and counting. He has admitted to causing a shortage of ammunition for U.S. servicemembers with this aid — offering this admission, bizarrely, as a
justification for sending cluster bombs, which will likely harm civilians for years to come.

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The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:

Stone interviewed Russia’s Vladimir Putin for his four-part Showtime docuseries The Putin Interviews in 2017.

It makes you wonder: Why did Oliver Stone bother to do the interviews?
We already know that 99% of what Putler says is just a bunch of sick
lies, disgusting propaganda and delusions.

br,
KK

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On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 13:18:02 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:

The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:

Stone interviewed Russia’s Vladimir Putin for his four-part Showtime docuseries The Putin Interviews in 2017.

It makes you wonder: Why did Oliver Stone bother to do the interviews?
We already know that 99% of what Putler says is just a bunch of sick
lies, disgusting propaganda and delusions.

did you support the 2003 illegal Iraq invasion?

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The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 13:18:02 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Stone interviewed Russia’s Vladimir Putin for his four-part Showtime > > docuseries The Putin Interviews in 2017.> It makes you wonder:

Why did Oliver Stone bother to do the interviews? > We already know that 99% of what Putler says is just a bunch of sick > lies, disgusting propaganda and delusions. did you support the 2003 illegal Iraq invasion?



Also Roddick should have been banned from USO 2003 following US Invasion of Iraq.


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The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 13:18:02 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:

The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:

Stone interviewed Russia’s Vladimir Putin for his four-part Showtime
docuseries The Putin Interviews in 2017.

It makes you wonder: Why did Oliver Stone bother to do the interviews?
We already know that 99% of what Putler says is just a bunch of sick
lies, disgusting propaganda and delusions.

did you support the 2003 illegal Iraq invasion?

I do not have enough knowledge of internation politics to
answer that question. Back in 2003, I was not at all
interested in politics.

What does Iraq in 2003 have to do with Oliver Stone
interviewing Putler?

Obviously Putler tries to find flaws in the western
world wherever he can. Putler's Russia is among the
worst fucking hellholes in the whole world. To use
Mr. Trump's terminology: It is surely one of those
shithole countries.

Do you have *any* idea what Russia is like?

br,
KK

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On 8/2/23 5:37 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:

The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 13:18:02 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:

The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:

Stone interviewed Russia’s Vladimir Putin for his four-part Showtime >>>> docuseries The Putin Interviews in 2017.

It makes you wonder: Why did Oliver Stone bother to do the interviews?
We already know that 99% of what Putler says is just a bunch of sick
lies, disgusting propaganda and delusions.

did you support the 2003 illegal Iraq invasion?

I do not have enough knowledge of internation politics to
answer that question. Back in 2003, I was not at all
interested in politics.

The invasion in the middle east was an easy sell after the 9/11 attack
in 2001.

I can recall being at work on the west coast the day of the attack. It
was pretty early in the morning on the Pacific coast.

Over the course of the next 2-3 days I witnessed my co-workers, honest,
decent nerd-type SW and HW engineers--not the low company I tended to
keep when I was college age--go absolutely rabid, calling for blood, essentially.

I could see that nothing would do but blood--a lot of it.

Post Pearl Harbor was probably similar.

What does Iraq in 2003 have to do with Oliver Stone
interviewing Putler?

Obviously Putler tries to find flaws in the western
world wherever he can. Putler's Russia is among the
worst fucking hellholes in the whole world. To use
Mr. Trump's terminology: It is surely one of those
shithole countries.

Do you have *any* idea what Russia is like?

I, for one, don't care. It's Russia, so it's for *Russians*, not for me.

br,
KK

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Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

The invasion in the middle east was an easy sell after the 9/11 attack in 2001.I can recall being at work on the west coast the day of the attack. It was pretty early in the morning on the Pacific coast.Over the course of the next 2-3 days I witnessed

my co-workers, honest, decent nerd-type SW and HW engineers--not the low company I tended to keep when I was college age--go absolutely rabid, calling for blood, essentially.I could see that nothing would do but blood--a lot of it.Post Pearl Harbor was
probably similar.


How is that similar?

After Pearl Harbour, USA declared war on Japan not on Mexico.


After Saudis did 9/11 you did not invade Saudi Arabia, but first Afganistan and then a socialist Iraq later on and killed Saddam who was a big enemy of bin Laden?


So there's no similarity to Pearl Harbour imo.



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On 8/2/23 8:32 AM, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

The invasion in the middle east was an easy sell after the 9/11 attack in 2001.I can recall being at work on the west coast the day of the attack. It was pretty early in the morning on the Pacific coast.Over the course of the next 2-3 days I witnessed

my co-workers, honest, decent nerd-type SW and HW engineers--not the low company I tended to keep when I was college age--go absolutely rabid, calling for blood, essentially.I could see that nothing would do but blood--a lot of it.Post Pearl Harbor was
probably similar.

How is that similar?

Purely in emotional reaction, skript.

I had never seen anything remotely like it. Noting I'd read about Pearl
Harbor prepared me for this.

You had the presidents of the local Parent-Teacher Association (PTA)
calling for Afghanistan to be bombed into a glass-covered parking lot.

Literally, someone at work said that later, after Osama bin Lauden had
been identified as the culprit.

After Pearl Harbour, USA declared war on Japan not on Mexico.

After Saudis did 9/11 you did not invade Saudi Arabia, but first Afganistan and then a socialist Iraq later on and killed Saddam who was a big enemy of bin Laden?

The whole invasion was a ruse. It did three things that I can see (and a
lot more, probably).

1) Supplied lots and lots of blood--and take my word for it, that was
what 80% of the US populace wanted at that time.

2) Allowed the US to demonstrate to the oil-producers in the mid-east
what could be in store if we were sufficiently provoked.

3) The Bush family to settle a personal feud with Saddam Hussein.

So there's no similarity to Pearl Harbour imo.

Politically not. But emotionally probably very similar.




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The Iceberg kirjoitti 30.7.2023 klo 15.53:

He added: “I see a man [Biden] who maybe is not in charge of his own administration. Who knows [if] he’s going to fall down somewhere. It seems that he’s dragging us stupidly into a confrontation with a power that’s not going to give.”

He has a point. Although Biden is still capable of aiding the Ukraine
effort.

What I'm worried about is his NEXT term. Well, maybe a country doesn't
need president in first place.

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