• (OT) College Board: slavery was not beneficial for African Americans

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 28 23:46:27 2023
    The College Board rejected claims Thursday by Florida officials that
    some aspects of the state's new history standards align with an Advanced Placement African American Studies course that Florida officials banned
    earlier this year.

    Florida's state Board of Education approved new African American history standards last week that have been widely criticized for including
    language on how "slaves developed skills" that could ultimately be used
    for "personal benefit." In defending the new state-created standards,
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other state officials have argued the
    College Board used similar language in the framework for its course.

    But College Board officials denied that the AP course echoes the new
    Florida standards, noting that while the course "includes a discussion
    about the skills enslaved people brought with them that enslavers
    exploited as well as other skills developed in America that were
    valuable to their enslavers," the class does not frame slavery in a
    positive light.

    "We resolutely disagree with the notion that enslavement was in any way
    a beneficial, productive, or useful experience for African Americans,"
    the College Board said in a statement to USA TODAY.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/07/27/college-board-criticizes-florida-black-history-standards/70480361007/

    Repubicans never cease to astonish. They're almost as wretched as our
    national socialist PerSu party.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to pelle@svans.los on Fri Jul 28 23:36:01 2023
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    The College Board rejected claims Thursday by Florida officials that some aspects of the state's new history standards align with an Advanced Placement African American Studies course that Florida officials banned earlier this year.Florida's state
    Board of Education approved new African American history standards last week that have been widely criticized for including language on how "slaves developed skills" that could ultimately be used for "personal benefit." In defending the new state-created
    standards, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other state officials have argued the College Board used similar language in the framework for its course.But College Board officials denied that the AP course echoes the new Florida standards, noting that while
    the course "includes a discussion about the skills enslaved people brought with them that enslavers exploited as well as other skills developed in America that were valuable to their enslavers," the class does not frame slavery in a positive light."We
    resolutely disagree with the notion that enslavement was in any way a beneficial, productive, or useful experience for African Americans," the College Board said in a statement to USA TODAY.https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/07/27/college-
    board-criticizes-florida-black-history-standards/70480361007/Repubicans never cease to astonish. They're almost as wretched as our national socialist PerSu party.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"--
    Traditional



    You have to make yourself more clear.


    Do you mean their descendants or them
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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 29 01:32:34 2023
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 21:46:30 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    The College Board rejected claims Thursday by Florida officials that
    some aspects of the state's new history standards align with an Advanced Placement African American Studies course that Florida officials banned earlier this year.

    Florida's state Board of Education approved new African American history standards last week that have been widely criticized for including
    language on how "slaves developed skills" that could ultimately be used
    for "personal benefit." In defending the new state-created standards, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other state officials have argued the
    College Board used similar language in the framework for its course.

    But College Board officials denied that the AP course echoes the new
    Florida standards, noting that while the course "includes a discussion
    about the skills enslaved people brought with them that enslavers
    exploited as well as other skills developed in America that were
    valuable to their enslavers," the class does not frame slavery in a
    positive light.

    "We resolutely disagree with the notion that enslavement was in any way
    a beneficial, productive, or useful experience for African Americans,"
    the College Board said in a statement to USA TODAY.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/07/27/college-board-criticizes-florida-black-history-standards/70480361007/

    Repubicans never cease to astonish. They're almost as wretched as our national socialist PerSu party.

    many many freed blacks became slave owners, are you saying they didn't gain any benefits? they were enslaved by you Arab-type folks and other Africans remember, that's who we should be blaming.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 29 01:39:07 2023
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 22:36:01 UTC+1, *skriptis wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös <pe...@svans.los> Wrote in message:r
    The College Board rejected claims Thursday by Florida officials that some aspects of the state's new history standards align with an Advanced Placement African American Studies course that Florida officials banned earlier this year.Florida's state
    Board of Education approved new African American history standards last week that have been widely criticized for including language on how "slaves developed skills" that could ultimately be used for "personal benefit." In defending the new state-created
    standards, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other state officials have argued the College Board used similar language in the framework for its course.But College Board officials denied that the AP course echoes the new Florida standards, noting that while
    the course "includes a discussion about the skills enslaved people brought with them that enslavers exploited as well as other skills developed in America that were valuable to their enslavers," the class does not frame slavery in a positive light."We
    resolutely disagree with the notion that enslavement was in any way a beneficial, productive, or useful experience for African Americans," the College Board said in a statement to USA TODAY.https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/07/27/college-
    board-criticizes-florida-black-history-standards/70480361007/Repubicans never cease to astonish. They're almost as wretched as our national socialist PerSu party.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"--
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    You have to make yourself more clear.


    Do you mean their descendants or them

    yes cos lots of their descendants became slave owners and later generations very very rich music stars, actors who make fake attacks on Trump, activist TV presenters etc. We should be asking for compensation for all the white indentured servants, but
    Pelle won't mention them.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Sun Jul 30 17:36:43 2023
    On 29.7.2023 11.32, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 21:46:30 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    The College Board rejected claims Thursday by Florida officials that
    some aspects of the state's new history standards align with an Advanced
    Placement African American Studies course that Florida officials banned
    earlier this year.

    Florida's state Board of Education approved new African American history
    standards last week that have been widely criticized for including
    language on how "slaves developed skills" that could ultimately be used
    for "personal benefit." In defending the new state-created standards,
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other state officials have argued the
    College Board used similar language in the framework for its course.

    But College Board officials denied that the AP course echoes the new
    Florida standards, noting that while the course "includes a discussion
    about the skills enslaved people brought with them that enslavers
    exploited as well as other skills developed in America that were
    valuable to their enslavers," the class does not frame slavery in a
    positive light.

    "We resolutely disagree with the notion that enslavement was in any way
    a beneficial, productive, or useful experience for African Americans,"
    the College Board said in a statement to USA TODAY.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/07/27/college-board-criticizes-florida-black-history-standards/70480361007/

    Repubicans never cease to astonish. They're almost as wretched as our
    national socialist PerSu party.

    many many freed blacks became slave owners, are you saying they didn't gain any benefits? they were enslaved by you Arab-type folks and other Africans remember, that's who we should be blaming.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTjxP7wRVQw

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 30 14:59:58 2023
    On Sunday, 30 July 2023 at 15:36:46 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 29.7.2023 11.32, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 21:46:30 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    The College Board rejected claims Thursday by Florida officials that
    some aspects of the state's new history standards align with an Advanced >> Placement African American Studies course that Florida officials banned >> earlier this year.

    Florida's state Board of Education approved new African American history >> standards last week that have been widely criticized for including
    language on how "slaves developed skills" that could ultimately be used >> for "personal benefit." In defending the new state-created standards,
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other state officials have argued the
    College Board used similar language in the framework for its course.

    But College Board officials denied that the AP course echoes the new
    Florida standards, noting that while the course "includes a discussion
    about the skills enslaved people brought with them that enslavers
    exploited as well as other skills developed in America that were
    valuable to their enslavers," the class does not frame slavery in a
    positive light.

    "We resolutely disagree with the notion that enslavement was in any way >> a beneficial, productive, or useful experience for African Americans,"
    the College Board said in a statement to USA TODAY.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/07/27/college-board-criticizes-florida-black-history-standards/70480361007/

    Repubicans never cease to astonish. They're almost as wretched as our
    national socialist PerSu party.

    many many freed blacks became slave owners, are you saying they didn't gain any benefits? they were enslaved by you Arab-type folks and other Africans remember, that's who we should be blaming.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTjxP7wRVQw

    Thanks Pelle, that video is brought by the Lincoln Project! HAHAHH yes the pedofile grooming group who claimed to be Repubs(like said you should pretend) but turned out they were total liars and 100% of their donations were to Democrats in 2020! LOL
    https://www.salon.com/2021/02/23/the-lincoln-projects-implosion-a-perfect-time-for-democratic-donors-to-rethink-their-spending/
    For the past month, anti-Trump super PAC the Lincoln Project –– which promised to bridge America's divides by bringing dignity back to the Republican Party –– has been put through the wringer and hung out to dry. First, allegations of sexual
    harassment by more than twenty people, including two minors, against Lincoln Project co-founder John Weaver came to light in late January.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 17:09:03 2023
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 28.7.2023 klo 23.46:
    The College Board rejected claims Thursday by Florida officials that
    some aspects of the state's new history standards align with an Advanced Placement African American Studies course that Florida officials banned earlier this year.

    Florida's state Board of Education approved new African American history standards last week that have been widely criticized for including
    language on how "slaves developed skills" that could ultimately be used
    for "personal benefit." In defending the new state-created standards,
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other state officials have argued the
    College Board used similar language in the framework for its course.

    But College Board officials denied that the AP course echoes the new
    Florida standards, noting that while the course "includes a discussion
    about the skills enslaved people brought with them that enslavers
    exploited as well as other skills developed in America that were
    valuable to their enslavers," the class does not frame slavery in a
    positive light.

    "We resolutely disagree with the notion that enslavement was in any way
    a beneficial, productive, or useful experience for African Americans,"
    the College Board said in a statement to USA TODAY.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/07/27/college-board-criticizes-florida-black-history-standards/70480361007/


    Of course slavery was beneficial for them? ...why else would they still, willingly, immigrate to Europe as slaves? Even willing to drown their
    children on boats to get here.

    I mean those few who work. And even fewer who didn't leave their
    children in Africa.

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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 07:26:08 2023
    On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 10:09:05 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 28.7.2023 klo 23.46:
    The College Board rejected claims Thursday by Florida officials that
    some aspects of the state's new history standards align with an Advanced Placement African American Studies course that Florida officials banned earlier this year.

    Florida's state Board of Education approved new African American history standards last week that have been widely criticized for including language on how "slaves developed skills" that could ultimately be used for "personal benefit." In defending the new state-created standards, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other state officials have argued the College Board used similar language in the framework for its course.

    But College Board officials denied that the AP course echoes the new Florida standards, noting that while the course "includes a discussion about the skills enslaved people brought with them that enslavers exploited as well as other skills developed in America that were
    valuable to their enslavers," the class does not frame slavery in a positive light.

    "We resolutely disagree with the notion that enslavement was in any way
    a beneficial, productive, or useful experience for African Americans,"
    the College Board said in a statement to USA TODAY.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/07/27/college-board-criticizes-florida-black-history-standards/70480361007/

    Of course slavery was beneficial for them? ...why else would they still, willingly, immigrate to Europe as slaves? Even willing to drown their children on boats to get here.

    I mean those few who work. And even fewer who didn't leave their
    children in Africa.

    Black slaves in Europe? Most blacks in London work jobs white people dont want! London and NYC would be in trouble if the nigs and spics stop working!

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 07:40:11 2023
    On 8/5/23 7:09 AM, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 28.7.2023 klo 23.46:
    The College Board rejected claims Thursday by Florida officials that
    some aspects of the state's new history standards align with an
    Advanced Placement African American Studies course that Florida
    officials banned earlier this year.

    Florida's state Board of Education approved new African American
    history standards last week that have been widely criticized for
    including language on how "slaves developed skills" that could
    ultimately be used for "personal benefit." In defending the new
    state-created standards, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other state
    officials have argued the College Board used similar language in the
    framework for its course.

    But College Board officials denied that the AP course echoes the new
    Florida standards, noting that while the course "includes a
    discussion about the skills enslaved people brought with them that
    enslavers exploited as well as other skills developed in America that
    were valuable to their enslavers," the class does not frame slavery
    in a positive light.

    "We resolutely disagree with the notion that enslavement was in any
    way a beneficial, productive, or useful experience for African
    Americans," the College Board said in a statement to USA TODAY.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/07/27/college-board-criticizes-florida-black-history-standards/70480361007/



    Of course slavery was beneficial for them? ...why else would they
    still, willingly, immigrate to Europe as slaves? Even willing to drown
    their children on boats to get here.

    I mean those few who work. And even fewer who didn't leave their
    children in Africa.

    Here's a kind of interesting thought...

    There seems to be little indication that sub-Saharan africans would have
    ever gotten off of the continent by their own means. They were disperse/distributed by other races as cargo or passengers.

    They did not even make it to Madagascar in any serious numbers. So
    there's the possible argument that without slavery, they'd still be in sub-Saharan Africa.

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    that barks at you."

    --Sawfish

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 18:03:01 2023
    gap...@gmail.com kirjoitti 5.8.2023 klo 17.26:
    On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 10:09:05 AM UTC-4, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 28.7.2023 klo 23.46:
    The College Board rejected claims Thursday by Florida officials that
    some aspects of the state's new history standards align with an Advanced >>> Placement African American Studies course that Florida officials banned
    earlier this year.

    Florida's state Board of Education approved new African American history >>> standards last week that have been widely criticized for including
    language on how "slaves developed skills" that could ultimately be used
    for "personal benefit." In defending the new state-created standards,
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other state officials have argued the
    College Board used similar language in the framework for its course.

    But College Board officials denied that the AP course echoes the new
    Florida standards, noting that while the course "includes a discussion
    about the skills enslaved people brought with them that enslavers
    exploited as well as other skills developed in America that were
    valuable to their enslavers," the class does not frame slavery in a
    positive light.

    "We resolutely disagree with the notion that enslavement was in any way
    a beneficial, productive, or useful experience for African Americans,"
    the College Board said in a statement to USA TODAY.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/07/27/college-board-criticizes-florida-black-history-standards/70480361007/

    Of course slavery was beneficial for them? ...why else would they still,
    willingly, immigrate to Europe as slaves? Even willing to drown their
    children on boats to get here.

    I mean those few who work. And even fewer who didn't leave their
    children in Africa.

    Black slaves in Europe? Most blacks in London work jobs white people dont want! London and NYC would be in trouble if the nigs and spics stop working!

    Willing slavery. Retire to welfare after getting the citizenship.
    Ok, not all but worryingly many. At least here.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 18:04:14 2023
    Sawfish kirjoitti 5.8.2023 klo 17.40:
    On 8/5/23 7:09 AM, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 28.7.2023 klo 23.46:
    The College Board rejected claims Thursday by Florida officials that
    some aspects of the state's new history standards align with an
    Advanced Placement African American Studies course that Florida
    officials banned earlier this year.

    Florida's state Board of Education approved new African American
    history standards last week that have been widely criticized for
    including language on how "slaves developed skills" that could
    ultimately be used for "personal benefit." In defending the new
    state-created standards, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other state
    officials have argued the College Board used similar language in the
    framework for its course.

    But College Board officials denied that the AP course echoes the new
    Florida standards, noting that while the course "includes a
    discussion about the skills enslaved people brought with them that
    enslavers exploited as well as other skills developed in America that
    were valuable to their enslavers," the class does not frame slavery
    in a positive light.

    "We resolutely disagree with the notion that enslavement was in any
    way a beneficial, productive, or useful experience for African
    Americans," the College Board said in a statement to USA TODAY.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/07/27/college-board-criticizes-florida-black-history-standards/70480361007/


    Of course slavery was beneficial for them? ...why else would they
    still, willingly, immigrate to Europe as slaves? Even willing to drown
    their children on boats to get here.

    I mean those few who work. And even fewer who didn't leave their
    children in Africa.

    Here's a kind of interesting thought...

    There seems to be little indication that sub-Saharan africans would have
    ever gotten off of the continent by their own means. They were disperse/distributed by other races as cargo or passengers.

    They did not even make it to Madagascar in any serious numbers. So
    there's the possible argument that without slavery, they'd still be in sub-Saharan Africa.


    It may have something to do with genes.

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