On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 7:26:10 PM UTC-7, Tuan wrote:

https://www.atptour.com/en/news/djokovic-toronto-2023-withdrawal

Who was it who said that age isn't a problem with Djokovic?

A bunch of players have done the same this year after a grueling tournament. Some were way younger than Djokovic (Norrie and Swiatek come to mind). Besides, everyone knows he's focusing mostly on slams now.

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https://www.atptour.com/en/news/djokovic-toronto-2023-withdrawal
Who was it who said that age isn't a problem with Djokovic?

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On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:01:15 PM UTC+10, Gracchus wrote:

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 7:26:10 PM UTC-7, Tuan wrote:

https://www.atptour.com/en/news/djokovic-toronto-2023-withdrawal

Who was it who said that age isn't a problem with Djokovic?

A bunch of players have done the same this year after a grueling tournament. Some were way younger than Djokovic (Norrie and Swiatek come to mind). Besides, everyone knows he's focusing mostly on slams now.

From FATIGUE? After THREE weeks' rest?

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On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:26:10 PM UTC-4, Tuan wrote:

https://www.atptour.com/en/news/djokovic-toronto-2023-withdrawal
Who was it who said that age isn't a problem with Djokovic?

It doesn't mean a thing, lol! He doesn't care about anything besides slams and maybe an Olympic gold. He's already won every Masters tournament twice over hasn't he?

"Fatigue" is just a made-up excuse which his PR team then issues formally. It's all PR mumbo-jumbo. It has no bearing on reality whatsoever(or at least in his case.) It's like when a coach and player split up, the standard PR jargon is that the coach
wants to spend more time with his/her family. Then you often see two weeks later the coach is with a new player.

Some fans sure are gullible.

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On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 9:17:17 PM UTC-7, Tuan wrote:

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:01:15 PM UTC+10, Gracchus wrote:

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 7:26:10 PM UTC-7, Tuan wrote:

https://www.atptour.com/en/news/djokovic-toronto-2023-withdrawal

Who was it who said that age isn't a problem with Djokovic?

A bunch of players have done the same this year after a grueling tournament. Some were way younger than Djokovic (Norrie and Swiatek come to mind). Besides, everyone knows he's focusing mostly on slams now.

From FATIGUE? After THREE weeks' rest?

It's an excuse to get out of a commitment. He could play it, by why should he? He's probably still processing the Wimbledon loss and Toronto isn't the USO.

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MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net> Wrote in message:r

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 7:58:06 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:26:10 PM UTC-4, Tuan wrote: > > https://www.atptour.com/en/news/djokovic-toronto-2023-withdrawal > > Who was it who said that age isn't a problem with

Djokovic?> It doesn't mean a thing, lol! He doesn't care about anything besides slams and maybe an Olympic gold. He's already won every Masters tournament twice over hasn't he? > > "Fatigue" is just a made-up excuse which his PR team then issues formally.
It's all PR mumbo-jumbo. It has no bearing on reality whatsoever(or at least in his case.) It's like when a coach and player split up, the standard PR jargon is that the coach wants to spend more time with his/her family. Then you often see two weeks
later the coach is with a new player. > > Some fans sure are gullible.Either way, Djoker surely would have not played both Toronto/Cincy.I think Cincy conditions are more close to USO? Logical choice?This saying: it is 50/50 that Djoker skips Cincy also.
.mikko


So why do you posted the unreasonable stuff that year end #1 is still up for grabs when it's effectively over?

You think Djokovic at 36 stands a chance at year end #1 with 4000 pts chance missed at Indian Wells, Miami, Canada, and as you assume, Cincinnati?


For what is worth I don't believe he'd skip Cincinnati. He needs it. He needs tuning up. You can't play FO, Wim and USO only consecutively.

Every time he's managed to win USO, he'd done something there as well at least, final in fact.

2018 - Cincinnati and USO
2015 - Cincinnati F and USO
2011 - Cincinnati F and USO


So you could argue he has no chance at USO title without Cincinnati final?




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On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 7:58:06 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:26:10 PM UTC-4, Tuan wrote:

https://www.atptour.com/en/news/djokovic-toronto-2023-withdrawal
Who was it who said that age isn't a problem with Djokovic?

It doesn't mean a thing, lol! He doesn't care about anything besides slams and maybe an Olympic gold. He's already won every Masters tournament twice over hasn't he?

"Fatigue" is just a made-up excuse which his PR team then issues formally. It's all PR mumbo-jumbo. It has no bearing on reality whatsoever(or at least in his case.) It's like when a coach and player split up, the standard PR jargon is that the coach

wants to spend more time with his/her family. Then you often see two weeks later the coach is with a new player.

Some fans sure are gullible.

Either way, Djoker surely would have not played both Toronto/Cincy.

I think Cincy conditions are more close to USO? Logical choice?

This saying: it is 50/50 that Djoker skips Cincy also.

.mikko

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On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:40:47 AM UTC+3, *skriptis wrote:

MBDunc as wise as usual in message:r

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 7:58:06 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:26:10 PM UTC-4, Tuan wrote: > > https://www.atptour.com/en/news/djokovic-toronto-2023-withdrawal > > Who was it who said that age isn't a problem with

Djokovic?> It doesn't mean a thing, lol! He doesn't care about anything besides slams and maybe an Olympic gold. He's already won every Masters tournament twice over hasn't he? > > "Fatigue" is just a made-up excuse which his PR team then issues formally.
It's all PR mumbo-jumbo. It has no bearing on reality whatsoever(or at least in his case.) It's like when a coach and player split up, the standard PR jargon is that the coach wants to spend more time with his/her family. Then you often see two weeks
later the coach is with a new player. > > Some fans sure are gullible.Either way, Djoker surely would have not played both Toronto/Cincy.I think Cincy conditions are more close to USO? Logical choice?This saying: it is 50/50 that Djoker skips Cincy also..
mikko

So why do you posted the unreasonable stuff that year end #1 is still up for grabs when it's effectively over?

Motivated Djoker has historically been strong in Autumn (also Meds, but can Alcaraz sustain - gamewise yes, but physique/health?)

You think Djokovic at 36 stands a chance at year end #1 with 4000 pts chance missed at Indian Wells, Miami, Canada, and as you assume, Cincinnati?

Funnily it might be. Djoker's W-W-F from slams this year just have given good points.

For what is worth I don't believe he'd skip Cincinnati. He needs it. He needs tuning up. You can't play FO, Wim and USO only consecutively.

I agree.

Every time he's managed to win USO, he'd done something there as well at least, final in fact.
2018 - Cincinnati and USO
2015 - Cincinnati F and USO
2011 - Cincinnati F and USO

So you could argue he has no chance at USO title without Cincinnati final?

Of course he has a chance. But it can be mental issue more. Djoker and US soil has not been the hottest marriage recently.... (USO incident some years back, COVID-19....)

Current race numbers:

Carlos Alcaraz 6,675
Novak Djokovic 5,945
Daniil Medvedev 5,120

Year-end #1 - It will be between these three barring miracles.

.mikko

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On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 09:02:53 UTC+1, MBDunc wrote:

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:40:47 AM UTC+3, *skriptis wrote:

MBDunc as wise as usual in message:r

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 7:58:06 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 10:26:10 PM UTC-4, Tuan wrote: > > https://www.atptour.com/en/news/djokovic-toronto-2023-withdrawal > > Who was it who said that age isn't a problem with

Djokovic?> It doesn't mean a thing, lol! He doesn't care about anything besides slams and maybe an Olympic gold. He's already won every Masters tournament twice over hasn't he? > > "Fatigue" is just a made-up excuse which his PR team then issues formally.
It's all PR mumbo-jumbo. It has no bearing on reality whatsoever(or at least in his case.) It's like when a coach and player split up, the standard PR jargon is that the coach wants to spend more time with his/her family. Then you often see two weeks
later the coach is with a new player. > > Some fans sure are gullible.Either way, Djoker surely would have not played both Toronto/Cincy.I think Cincy conditions are more close to USO? Logical choice?This saying: it is 50/50 that Djoker skips Cincy also..
mikko

So why do you posted the unreasonable stuff that year end #1 is still up for grabs when it's effectively over?

Motivated Djoker has historically been strong in Autumn (also Meds, but can Alcaraz sustain - gamewise yes, but physique/health?)

You think Djokovic at 36 stands a chance at year end #1 with 4000 pts chance missed at Indian Wells, Miami, Canada, and as you assume, Cincinnati?

Funnily it might be. Djoker's W-W-F from slams this year just have given good points.

For what is worth I don't believe he'd skip Cincinnati. He needs it. He needs tuning up. You can't play FO, Wim and USO only consecutively.

I agree.

Every time he's managed to win USO, he'd done something there as well at least, final in fact.
2018 - Cincinnati and USO
2015 - Cincinnati F and USO
2011 - Cincinnati F and USO

So you could argue he has no chance at USO title without Cincinnati final?

Of course he has a chance. But it can be mental issue more. Djoker and US soil has not been the hottest marriage recently.... (USO incident some years back, COVID-19....)

Current race numbers:

Carlos Alcaraz 6,675
Novak Djokovic 5,945
Daniil Medvedev 5,120

Year-end #1 - It will be between these three barring miracles.

has Ruud got any chance or did Wimbledon finish that?

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