• Zverev: Another woman comes forward to claim abuse!

    From Court_1@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 21 21:44:56 2023
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*


    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 22 00:21:59 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*


    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.

    The new woman is the mother of their child.
    Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Sat Jul 22 09:25:42 2023
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-
    allegations-alexander-zverev > > What a cretin this guy is.The new woman is the mother of their child. Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.



    Correct.


    But I can't express my dismay enough at Navratilova for interfering in someone's private matters and worse, demanding someone be fired of hurt financially over unproven allegations.

    The ATP should...she says.

    What should ATP do indeed, what is ATP, a police?



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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 22 19:09:28 2023
    On 22/07/2023 5:25 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-
    allegations-alexander-zverev > > What a cretin this guy is.The new woman is the mother of their child. Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.



    Correct.


    But I can't express my dismay enough at Navratilova for interfering in someone's private matters and worse, demanding someone be fired of hurt financially over unproven allegations.

    The ATP should...she says.

    What should ATP do indeed, what is ATP, a police?





    Yes it's a private matter and nobody's business. Zverev is no angel but
    all these women are gold diggers and can't be trusted. Best to leave it
    to the courts who will eventually throw it out as no proof.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Sat Jul 22 04:06:11 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*


    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.


    The new woman is the mother of their child.

    So?


    Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.

    Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.

    The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!

    The guy is a POS.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to Whisper on Sat Jul 22 04:16:21 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:09:44 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 5:25 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-
    allegations-alexander-zverev > > What a cretin this guy is.The new woman is the mother of their child. Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.



    Correct.


    But I can't express my dismay enough at Navratilova for interfering in someone's private matters and worse, demanding someone be fired of hurt financially over unproven allegations.

    The ATP should...she says.

    What should ATP do indeed, what is ATP, a police?




    Yes it's a private matter and nobody's business. Zverev is no angel but
    all these women are gold diggers and can't be trusted. Best to leave it
    to the courts who will eventually throw it out as no proof.

    You're pathetic! Zverev is a classic abuser. These abusers never stop at abusing one woman. They're unable to. It's a compulsion. The first one wasn't thrown out in court; the ATP "investigated," whatever that means. This POS needs to be suspended and
    dropped by some of his big sponsors. It's a terrible look for the ATP and the business of tennis promoting this scumbag.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to olympia0000@yahoo.com on Sat Jul 22 15:55:26 2023
    Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:09:44 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:> On 22/07/2023 5:25 pm, *skriptis wrote: > > PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > >> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> I guess she must
    be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > What a cretin this guy is.The new woman is the mother
    of their child. Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion. > > > > > > > > Correct. > > > > > > But I can't express my dismay enough at Navratilova for interfering in someone's private
    matters and worse, demanding someone be fired of hurt financially over unproven allegations. > > > > The ATP should...she says. > > > > What should ATP do indeed, what is ATP, a police? > > > > > >> Yes it's a private matter and nobody's business. Zverev
    is no angel but > all these women are gold diggers and can't be trusted. Best to leave it > to the courts who will eventually throw it out as no proof.You're pathetic! Zverev is a classic abuser. These abusers never stop at abusing one woman. They're
    unable to. It's a compulsion. The first one wasn't thrown out in court; the ATP "investigated," whatever that means. This POS needs to be suspended and dropped by some of his big sponsors. It's a terrible look for the ATP and the business of tennis
    promoting this scumbag.



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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to olympia0000@yahoo.com on Sat Jul 22 18:55:19 2023
    Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-
    investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get
    filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she
    said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)

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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Sat Jul 22 09:21:23 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-
    actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if
    charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
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    Educated Bengalis speak better english than canucks, ooout and aboout eh?

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 22 09:21:49 2023
    On 7/22/23 12:25 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-
    allegations-alexander-zverev > > What a cretin this guy is.The new woman is the mother of their child. Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.


    Correct.


    But I can't express my dismay enough at Navratilova for interfering in someone's private matters and worse, demanding someone be fired of hurt financially over unproven allegations.

    The ATP should...she says.

    Right there in a nutshell you have how the current iteration of western cultural sensibilities work.

    A member of a historically marginalized group forcefully injects an
    opinion about *anything*  that may be anywhere from woefully uninformed
    and distorted, to right on the money. But in *all* cases currently,
    because of the group identity of the individual, we accept it as 100%
    correct, and more. Because an oppressed minority told us of it, by our
    sense of collective guilt, we owe it the them to agree and take action.


    What should ATP do indeed, what is ATP, a police?




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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Sat Jul 22 15:08:33 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-
    actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if
    charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
    --

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    Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are excellent writers in the English language.

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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to gap...@gmail.com on Sat Jul 22 15:12:07 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 12:21:26 PM UTC-4, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-
    actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if
    charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
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    Educated Bengalis speak better english than canucks, ooout and aboout eh?

    Yes, indeed. Many of them write very well too. But, when they speak, they tend to have a strong Bengali accent.

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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Sat Jul 22 18:55:33 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 6:12:09 PM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 12:21:26 PM UTC-4, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-
    actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if
    charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
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    Educated Bengalis speak better english than canucks, ooout and aboout eh?
    Yes, indeed. Many of them write very well too. But, when they speak, they tend to have a strong Bengali accent.


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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Sat Jul 22 21:11:38 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 > Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-
    actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if
    charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.


    What is wrong with Bengali people?

    Nothing. But isn't it common practice in Bangladesh for men to commit domestic violence? So really, should you be trusted when you weigh in on this topic? For me, no you shouldn't. Plus, you're a nutter of the highest order with respect to your bizarre
    worshipping of Federer. A grown "man" acting like a lovesick puppy or something about a public figure who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

    https://www.ucanews.com/news/domestic-abuse-a-daily-reality-for-bangladeshi-women/70582


    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    *calls me a racist and then proceeds to make sexist comments* 🙄


    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    Yeah, sure. But when multiple women begin to come forward with similar stories the chances of "innocence" are at about 1%. Have there been any such public "extortion claims" from women against say Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal? Believe me,
    they all have multiple partners/women. Probably one in every city. If one is going to extort, why not go to the men with real money? Why are two women picking on Zverev(a bum in comparison to many wealthy, famous men.)

    In any case, you can think what you want. But I, Navratilova, and anybody else can also think what we want.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sat Jul 22 21:12:41 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 12:21:52 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
    On 7/22/23 12:25 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-
    allegations-alexander-zverev > > What a cretin this guy is.The new woman is the mother of their child. Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.


    Correct.


    But I can't express my dismay enough at Navratilova for interfering in someone's private matters and worse, demanding someone be fired of hurt financially over unproven allegations.

    The ATP should...she says.
    Right there in a nutshell you have how the current iteration of western cultural sensibilities work.

    A member of a historically marginalized group forcefully injects an
    opinion about *anything* that may be anywhere from woefully uninformed
    and distorted, to right on the money. But in *all* cases currently,
    because of the group identity of the individual, we accept it as 100% correct, and more. Because an oppressed minority told us of it, by our
    sense of collective guilt, we owe it the them to agree and take action.

    Time for a diaper change!

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to Whisper on Sat Jul 22 21:14:30 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 9:06 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*


    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.


    The new woman is the mother of their child.

    So?


    Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.

    Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.

    The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many
    more!

    The guy is a POS.

    Sure, but these women are no better come on.

    ???? Two women who have similar stories about Zverev of all people? Obviously, we don't do the same kind of math.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 13:30:58 2023
    On 22/07/2023 9:06 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*


    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.


    The new woman is the mother of their child.

    So?


    Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.

    Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.

    The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many
    more!

    The guy is a POS.



    Sure, but these women are no better come on.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 13:32:13 2023
    On 22/07/2023 9:16 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:09:44 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 5:25 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-
    allegations-alexander-zverev > > What a cretin this guy is.The new woman is the mother of their child. Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.



    Correct.


    But I can't express my dismay enough at Navratilova for interfering in someone's private matters and worse, demanding someone be fired of hurt financially over unproven allegations.

    The ATP should...she says.

    What should ATP do indeed, what is ATP, a police?




    Yes it's a private matter and nobody's business. Zverev is no angel but
    all these women are gold diggers and can't be trusted. Best to leave it
    to the courts who will eventually throw it out as no proof.

    You're pathetic! Zverev is a classic abuser. These abusers never stop at abusing one woman. They're unable to. It's a compulsion. The first one wasn't thrown out in court; the ATP "investigated," whatever that means. This POS needs to be suspended and
    dropped by some of his big sponsors. It's a terrible look for the ATP and the business of tennis promoting this scumbag.



    Maybe, but I wonder how stupid you'd have to be to commit blatant
    domestic violence in Zverev's position? Even he isn't that dumb I think?

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to Whisper on Sat Jul 22 21:15:49 2023
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:32:27 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 9:16 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:09:44 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 5:25 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-
    assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > What a cretin this guy is.The new woman is the mother of their child. Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.



    Correct.


    But I can't express my dismay enough at Navratilova for interfering in someone's private matters and worse, demanding someone be fired of hurt financially over unproven allegations.

    The ATP should...she says.

    What should ATP do indeed, what is ATP, a police?




    Yes it's a private matter and nobody's business. Zverev is no angel but >> all these women are gold diggers and can't be trusted. Best to leave it >> to the courts who will eventually throw it out as no proof.

    You're pathetic! Zverev is a classic abuser. These abusers never stop at abusing one woman. They're unable to. It's a compulsion. The first one wasn't thrown out in court; the ATP "investigated," whatever that means. This POS needs to be suspended
    and dropped by some of his big sponsors. It's a terrible look for the ATP and the business of tennis promoting this scumbag.


    Maybe, but I wonder how stupid you'd have to be to commit blatant
    domestic violence in Zverev's position? Even he isn't that dumb I think?

    Zverev's "position" has absolutely zero to do with it. Men from all walks of life, social strata, etc. commit domestic violence. My goodness, get a clue!

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to olympia0000@yahoo.com on Sun Jul 23 09:30:51 2023
    Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Court_1 > Wrote in message:r> > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she
    must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new
    woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a
    place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward?
    And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS. > > What is wrong with Bengali people? Nothing. But isn't it common practice in Bangladesh for men to commit domestic violence? So really, should you be trusted when you weigh in on this
    topic? For me, no you shouldn't. Plus, you're a nutter of the highest order with respect to your bizarre worshipping of Federer. A grown "man" acting like a lovesick puppy or something about a public figure who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
    https://www.ucanews.com/news/domestic-abuse-a-daily-reality-for-bangladeshi-women/70582> Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries. *calls me a racist and then proceeds to make sexist comments*  > I believe people
    in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right? Yeah, sure. But when multiple women begin to come forward with similar stories the chances of "innocence" are at about 1%. Have there been any such public "extortion claims"
    from women against say Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal? Believe me, they all have multiple partners/women. Probably one in every city. If one is going to extort, why not go to the men with real money? Why are two women picking on Zverev(a bum
    in comparison to many wealthy, famous men.) In any case, you can think what you want. But I, Navratilova, and anybody else can also think what we want.

    I really don't think you have the mental capacity to discuss anything, switching discussions from Bangali to Federer, and going roids on zverev because a woman accused him with something.

    Are you all nuts in Canada like this?
    The only issue I have with zverev is his choice of low quality women that you represent.
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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Sun Jul 23 09:34:00 2023
    RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r> > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy
    The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you'
    re from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to
    come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS. > > What is wrong with Bengali people? > Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries. > > I believe people in Canada believe the person is
    innocent until he/she is found guilty, right? > > The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)> -- I will restrict myself to the Indian Bengalis (Of course there are bright minds on the other
    side of the divide as well). Bengalis are the brightest Indians in the US as far as statistics and probability is concerned. There is the Indian Statistical Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution
    in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are excellent writers in the English language.

    Does a Bangali mean from India or from Bangladesh?
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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 19:24:24 2023
    On 23/07/2023 2:15 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:32:27 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 9:16 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:09:44 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 5:25 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-
    assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > What a cretin this guy is.The new woman is the mother of their child. Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.



    Correct.


    But I can't express my dismay enough at Navratilova for interfering in someone's private matters and worse, demanding someone be fired of hurt financially over unproven allegations.

    The ATP should...she says.

    What should ATP do indeed, what is ATP, a police?




    Yes it's a private matter and nobody's business. Zverev is no angel but >>>> all these women are gold diggers and can't be trusted. Best to leave it >>>> to the courts who will eventually throw it out as no proof.

    You're pathetic! Zverev is a classic abuser. These abusers never stop at abusing one woman. They're unable to. It's a compulsion. The first one wasn't thrown out in court; the ATP "investigated," whatever that means. This POS needs to be suspended
    and dropped by some of his big sponsors. It's a terrible look for the ATP and the business of tennis promoting this scumbag.


    Maybe, but I wonder how stupid you'd have to be to commit blatant
    domestic violence in Zverev's position? Even he isn't that dumb I think?

    Zverev's "position" has absolutely zero to do with it. Men from all walks of life, social strata, etc. commit domestic violence. My goodness, get a clue!


    If you have everything to lose and nothing to gain? This case is a
    nothing burger, trust me.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 19:22:48 2023
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 9:06 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*


    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.


    The new woman is the mother of their child.

    So?


    Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.

    Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.

    The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many
    more!

    The guy is a POS.

    Sure, but these women are no better come on.

    ???? Two women who have similar stories about Zverev of all people? Obviously, we don't do the same kind of math.


    Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports
    star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I
    say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in
    this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free
    ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 03:51:43 2023
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 12:16:23 UTC+1, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:09:44 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 5:25 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-
    assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > What a cretin this guy is.The new woman is the mother of their child. Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.



    Correct.


    But I can't express my dismay enough at Navratilova for interfering in someone's private matters and worse, demanding someone be fired of hurt financially over unproven allegations.

    The ATP should...she says.

    What should ATP do indeed, what is ATP, a police?




    Yes it's a private matter and nobody's business. Zverev is no angel but all these women are gold diggers and can't be trusted. Best to leave it
    to the courts who will eventually throw it out as no proof.
    You're pathetic! Zverev is a classic abuser. These abusers never stop at abusing one woman. They're unable to. It's a compulsion. The first one wasn't thrown out in court; the ATP "investigated," whatever that means. This POS needs to be suspended and
    dropped by some of his big sponsors. It's a terrible look for the ATP and the business of tennis promoting this scumbag.

    he was found innocent and/or she dropped all charges, you can't go finding men guilty just cos they're men and someone accuses them, look what happened with Johnny Depp? sadly you kept wanting to say he was guilty and he was 100% innocent.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 03:57:59 2023
    On Sunday, 23 July 2023 at 05:14:32 UTC+1, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 9:06 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*


    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.


    The new woman is the mother of their child.

    So?


    Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.

    Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.

    The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be
    many more!

    The guy is a POS.

    Sure, but these women are no better come on.
    ???? Two women who have similar stories about Zverev of all people? Obviously, we don't do the same kind of math.

    yes cos she copied the other one. He's very good looking and probably a major love-cheat, that's what happened in the first case she got jealous of another girl, remember?

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Sun Jul 23 03:54:31 2023
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 23:08:35 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-
    actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if
    charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
    --
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    Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are excellent writers in the English language.

    is that as good as the Bangalore Online University where Raja got all his degrees from?

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 07:11:47 2023
    On 7/22/23 9:11 PM, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 > Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-
    actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if
    charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.
    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Nothing. But isn't it common practice in Bangladesh for men to commit domestic violence? So really, should you be trusted when you weigh in on this topic? For me, no you shouldn't. Plus, you're a nutter of the highest order with respect to your bizarre
    worshipping of Federer. A grown "man" acting like a lovesick puppy or something about a public figure who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

    https://www.ucanews.com/news/domestic-abuse-a-daily-reality-for-bangladeshi-women/70582

    Interesting point: is there even such a legal definition as domestic
    abuse or domestic violence in Banglasdesh?

    I suspect that there are many nations in which there is no such concept.
    These would be traditionalist countries, mostly. Stuck to what they
    perceived as traditional practices.

    So in the west such protections were enacted for the protection of
    women. I'm uncertain when what was then called "wife beating" became a
    legal offense.

    Hmmm...

    This is a quick overview:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence#History



    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.
    *calls me a racist and then proceeds to make sexist comments* 🙄


    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?
    Yeah, sure. But when multiple women begin to come forward with similar stories the chances of "innocence" are at about 1%. Have there been any such public "extortion claims" from women against say Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal? Believe
    me, they all have multiple partners/women. Probably one in every city. If one is going to extort, why not go to the men with real money? Why are two women picking on Zverev(a bum in comparison to many wealthy, famous men.)

    In any case, you can think what you want. But I, Navratilova, and anybody else can also think what we want.


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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to Whisper on Sun Jul 23 22:14:58 2023
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:>> On 22/07/2023 9:06 pm, Court_1 wrote:>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:>>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:
    58AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:>>>>> I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev>
    What a cretin this guy is.>>>>>>>>>> The new woman is the mother of their child.>>>>>> So?>>>>>>>>>> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.>>>>>> Oh yes, that's it, another
    extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.>>>>>> The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser
    and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!>>>>>> The guy is a POS.> >> Sure, but these women are no better come on.> > ???? Two women who have similar stories about
    Zverev of all people? Obviously, we don't do the same kind of math.Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I say nope, not in this case. In other
    cases, eg crackhead rocker slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )

    It's just zverev can't contain himself, he walks everywhere
    looking for women to beat :)


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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Sun Jul 23 23:51:49 2023
    RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:54:33 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:> On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 23:08:35 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote: > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote: > > > Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in
    message:r > > > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-
    needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and
    if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS. > > > > > > What is wrong with
    Bengali people? > > > Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries. > > > > > > I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right? > > > > > > The funny thing you say you
    work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :) > > > -- > > I will restrict myself to the Indian Bengalis (Of course there are bright minds on the other side of the divide as well). Bengalis are the brightest Indians in
    the US as far as statistics and probability is concerned. There is the Indian Statistical Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are
    excellent writers in the English language.> is that as good as the Bangalore Online University where Raja got all his degrees from?Raja is good in many things, including at least three languages (Tamil, Hindi, English) You? :)


    Isn't all that abolished if he's of the lowest caste?

    I'm asking.

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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Sun Jul 23 14:32:55 2023
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:54:33 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 23:08:35 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-
    actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if
    charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
    --
    I will restrict myself to the Indian Bengalis (Of course there are bright minds on the other side of the divide as well). Bengalis are the brightest Indians in the US as far as statistics and probability is concerned. There is the Indian Statistical
    Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are excellent writers in the English language.
    is that as good as the Bangalore Online University where Raja got all his degrees from?

    Raja is good in many things, including at least three languages (Tamil, Hindi, English) You? :)

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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 15:37:31 2023
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:51:48 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
    RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:54:33 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:> On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 23:08:35 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote: > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote: > > > Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote
    in message:r > > > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/
    news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place
    and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined
    up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS. > > > > > > What is wrong
    with Bengali people? > > > Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries. > > > > > > I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right? > > > > > > The funny thing you say
    you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :) > > > -- > > I will restrict myself to the Indian Bengalis (Of course there are bright minds on the other side of the divide as well). Bengalis are the brightest Indians
    in the US as far as statistics and probability is concerned. There is the Indian Statistical Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are
    excellent writers in the English language.> is that as good as the Bangalore Online University where Raja got all his degrees from?Raja is good in many things, including at least three languages (Tamil, Hindi, English) You? :)


    Isn't all that abolished if he's of the lowest caste?

    I'm asking.
    --

    Let us first hear about some of your attainments :)

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Mon Jul 24 01:04:46 2023
    RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:51:48 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:> RaspingDrive <raspin...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r > > On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:54:33 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:> On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 23:08:35 UTC+1, RaspingDrive
    wrote: > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote: > > > Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r > > > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM
    UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > >
    What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I
    expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many
    more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS. > > > > > > What is wrong with Bengali people? > > > Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries. > > > > > > I believe
    people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right? > > > > > > The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :) > > > -- > > I will restrict myself to the Indian
    Bengalis (Of course there are bright minds on the other side of the divide as well). Bengalis are the brightest Indians in the US as far as statistics and probability is concerned. There is the Indian Statistical Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta)
    which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are excellent writers in the English language.> is that as good as the Bangalore Online University where Raja got all his degrees from?Raja
    is good in many things, including at least three languages (Tamil, Hindi, English) You? :) > > > Isn't all that abolished if he's of the lowest caste? > > I'm asking.> -- Let us first hear about some of your attainments :)



    Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian, Herzegovian, Montian, Negrian, understand Slovenian, Russian, English and German.

    And bonus I'm not of the lowest caste.

    ;)





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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 16:30:49 2023
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 7:04:45 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:

    - Let us first hear about some of your attainments :)
    Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian, Herzegovian, Montian, Negrian,

    Wow. Are these widely disparate languages (like Tamil, Hindi, and English) or are they mildly different from one another? :)


    understand Slovenian, Russian, English and German.

    Your English is more than "understand" level. It is impressive, although not to the level of attainment of many Bengali intellectuals :)

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Sun Jul 23 22:11:54 2023
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:30:58 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Court_1 > Wrote in message:r> > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she
    must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new
    woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a
    place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward?
    And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS. > > What is wrong with Bengali people? Nothing. But isn't it common practice in Bangladesh for men to commit domestic violence? So really, should you be trusted when you weigh in on this
    topic? For me, no you shouldn't. Plus, you're a nutter of the highest order with respect to your bizarre worshipping of Federer. A grown "man" acting like a lovesick puppy or something about a public figure who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
    https://www.ucanews.com/news/domestic-abuse-a-daily-reality-for-bangladeshi-women/70582> Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries. *calls me a racist and then proceeds to make sexist comments* > I believe people in
    Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right? Yeah, sure. But when multiple women begin to come forward with similar stories the chances of "innocence" are at about 1%. Have there been any such public "extortion claims" from
    women against say Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal? Believe me, they all have multiple partners/women. Probably one in every city. If one is going to extort, why not go to the men with real money? Why are two women picking on Zverev(a bum in
    comparison to many wealthy, famous men.) In any case, you can think what you want. But I, Navratilova, and anybody else can also think what we want.

    I really don't think you have the mental capacity to discuss anything, switching discussions from Bangali to Federer, and going roids on zverev because a woman accused him with something.

    Are you all nuts in Canada like this?
    The only issue I have with zverev is his choice of low quality women that you represent.

    That's a compliment coming from a sexist weirdo like you.

    Yes, when I give my opinion about Zverev and why I think you approve of it, I don't have mental capacity but when you say women(plural) accusing Zverev of abuse must be low quality women and you are notorious for being a Fedfucker extraordinaire on RST,
    your mental capacity shouldn't be questioned! No sir, never!

    Everybody on RST knows your fanboying of Federer is abnormal. I mean, how old are you? 60? You have every single excuse in the book going when Federer loses countless legacy-determining matches to his biggest rivals and with you, the goalposts keep
    changing in order to substantiate your narrative.

    I guess you'll just have to try and have women like Navratilova, me and countless other women with brains beheaded for expressing an opinion. Isn't that what they do over where you're from?

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to Whisper on Sun Jul 23 22:17:01 2023
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:23:07 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 9:06 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote: >>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*


    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.


    The new woman is the mother of their child.

    So?


    Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.

    Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.

    The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be
    many more!

    The guy is a POS.

    Sure, but these women are no better come on.

    ???? Two women who have similar stories about Zverev of all people? Obviously, we don't do the same kind of math.

    Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I
    say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in
    this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free
    ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )

    Why don't you ask Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc? They're millionaires many times over. Social status in life has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not somebody is abusive. Seriously, it's an ignorant remark. Come on, now!

    Zverev is a small fish in a very large scummy pond.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Sun Jul 23 22:42:48 2023
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:51:45 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 12:16:23 UTC+1, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:09:44 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 5:25 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-
    assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > What a cretin this guy is.The new woman is the mother of their child. Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.



    Correct.


    But I can't express my dismay enough at Navratilova for interfering in someone's private matters and worse, demanding someone be fired of hurt financially over unproven allegations.

    The ATP should...she says.

    What should ATP do indeed, what is ATP, a police?




    Yes it's a private matter and nobody's business. Zverev is no angel but all these women are gold diggers and can't be trusted. Best to leave it to the courts who will eventually throw it out as no proof.
    You're pathetic! Zverev is a classic abuser. These abusers never stop at abusing one woman. They're unable to. It's a compulsion. The first one wasn't thrown out in court; the ATP "investigated," whatever that means. This POS needs to be suspended
    and dropped by some of his big sponsors. It's a terrible look for the ATP and the business of tennis promoting this scumbag.
    he was found innocent and/or she dropped all charges, you can't go finding men guilty just cos they're men and someone accuses them, look what happened with Johnny Depp? sadly you kept wanting to say he was guilty and he was 100% innocent.

    He's 100% innocent like you're a Rhodes Scholar!

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 24 18:52:46 2023
    On 24/07/2023 3:17 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:23:07 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:

    Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports
    star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I
    say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in
    this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free
    ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )

    Why don't you ask Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc? They're millionaires many times over. Social status in life has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not somebody is abusive. Seriously, it's an ignorant remark. Come on, now!

    Zverev is a small fish in a very large scummy pond.


    Those are old rich guys who got away with a lot of crap in pre-woke
    times. Zverev literally has nothing to gain and everything to lose,
    sorry but nobody is that stupid. He could just easily walk away and
    live a fantastic life hooking up with an endless supply of models (like
    Leo Di Caprio has perfected) rather than bashing his partners.

    I may be generalizing but most of the women these guys hang out with are
    super hot but have nothing else going for them, prob would have to work
    at burger king otherwise, try onlyfans etc. You bet they will do
    whatever it takes to get at some of that hot easy moolah - minimal
    effort for lots of gain. I'm annoyed I even have to discuss this silly
    stuff on rst, all will be thrown out of court as baseless nonsense, huge
    yawn.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Mon Jul 24 06:02:29 2023
    On Sunday, 23 July 2023 at 22:32:57 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:54:33 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 23:08:35 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-
    actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if
    charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
    --
    I will restrict myself to the Indian Bengalis (Of course there are bright minds on the other side of the divide as well). Bengalis are the brightest Indians in the US as far as statistics and probability is concerned. There is the Indian
    Statistical Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are excellent writers in the English language.
    is that as good as the Bangalore Online University where Raja got all his degrees from?
    Raja is good in many things, including at least three languages (Tamil, Hindi, English) You? :)

    Raja's is a real expert in Indian-style communism whereas I only know about tennis and partying and cooking burgers, on languages lots of French folks have met do say I speak very good French eg. "Bonjour mon garcon, j'espere tout le arrier mains sont
    comme Reechard Gasquet dan le tennis court!" then they say "Ohhh oui monsier, tres bon! Monsier Iceberg vous est tres bien!"

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 24 05:21:07 2023
    On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 06:42:50 UTC+1, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:51:45 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 12:16:23 UTC+1, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:09:44 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 5:25 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:> I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-
    assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > What a cretin this guy is.The new woman is the mother of their child. Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.



    Correct.


    But I can't express my dismay enough at Navratilova for interfering in someone's private matters and worse, demanding someone be fired of hurt financially over unproven allegations.

    The ATP should...she says.

    What should ATP do indeed, what is ATP, a police?




    Yes it's a private matter and nobody's business. Zverev is no angel but
    all these women are gold diggers and can't be trusted. Best to leave it
    to the courts who will eventually throw it out as no proof.
    You're pathetic! Zverev is a classic abuser. These abusers never stop at abusing one woman. They're unable to. It's a compulsion. The first one wasn't thrown out in court; the ATP "investigated," whatever that means. This POS needs to be suspended
    and dropped by some of his big sponsors. It's a terrible look for the ATP and the business of tennis promoting this scumbag.
    he was found innocent and/or she dropped all charges, you can't go finding men guilty just cos they're men and someone accuses them, look what happened with Johnny Depp? sadly you kept wanting to say he was guilty and he was 100% innocent.
    He's 100% innocent like you're a Rhodes Scholar!

    thanks :D been to Rhodes, went partying there!!!

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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Mon Jul 24 07:10:30 2023
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:02:31 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Sunday, 23 July 2023 at 22:32:57 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:54:33 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 23:08:35 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-
    actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if
    charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
    --
    I will restrict myself to the Indian Bengalis (Of course there are bright minds on the other side of the divide as well). Bengalis are the brightest Indians in the US as far as statistics and probability is concerned. There is the Indian
    Statistical Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are excellent writers in the English language.
    is that as good as the Bangalore Online University where Raja got all his degrees from?
    Raja is good in many things, including at least three languages (Tamil, Hindi, English) You? :)
    Raja's is a real expert in Indian-style communism whereas I only know about tennis and partying and cooking burgers, on languages lots of French folks have met do say I speak very good French eg. "Bonjour mon garcon, j'espere tout le arrier mains sont
    comme Reechard Gasquet dan le tennis court!" then they say "Ohhh oui monsier, tres bon! Monsier Iceberg vous est tres bien!"

    What is 'Indian style communism'? Also, you say you only know tennis, partying, and cooking burgers. However, based on your unceasing rantings here, it seems you are into politics as well :) Finally, you only know two languages whereas Raja knows three
    apart from being good in engineering, math, music, IT, and a host of other things. He wins :)

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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Mon Jul 24 07:24:34 2023
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 10:10:33 AM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:02:31 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Sunday, 23 July 2023 at 22:32:57 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:54:33 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 23:08:35 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-
    needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and
    if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
    --
    I will restrict myself to the Indian Bengalis (Of course there are bright minds on the other side of the divide as well). Bengalis are the brightest Indians in the US as far as statistics and probability is concerned. There is the Indian
    Statistical Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are excellent writers in the English language.
    is that as good as the Bangalore Online University where Raja got all his degrees from?
    Raja is good in many things, including at least three languages (Tamil, Hindi, English) You? :)
    Raja's is a real expert in Indian-style communism whereas I only know about tennis and partying and cooking burgers, on languages lots of French folks have met do say I speak very good French eg. "Bonjour mon garcon, j'espere tout le arrier mains
    sont comme Reechard Gasquet dan le tennis court!" then they say "Ohhh oui monsier, tres bon! Monsier Iceberg vous est tres bien!"
    What is 'Indian style communism'? Also, you say you only know tennis, partying, and cooking burgers. However, based on your unceasing rantings here, it seems you are into politics as well :) Finally, you only know two languages whereas Raja knows three
    apart from being good in engineering, math, music, IT, and a host of other things. He wins :)

    Never got that a tennis pro in UK, is fascinated by US politics ? Right wing nut job? Yanks don't give a shit about UK politics! Nice PM and his rich wife!

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Mon Jul 24 08:15:35 2023
    On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 15:10:33 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:02:31 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Sunday, 23 July 2023 at 22:32:57 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:54:33 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 23:08:35 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-
    needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and
    if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
    --
    I will restrict myself to the Indian Bengalis (Of course there are bright minds on the other side of the divide as well). Bengalis are the brightest Indians in the US as far as statistics and probability is concerned. There is the Indian
    Statistical Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are excellent writers in the English language.
    is that as good as the Bangalore Online University where Raja got all his degrees from?
    Raja is good in many things, including at least three languages (Tamil, Hindi, English) You? :)
    Raja's is a real expert in Indian-style communism whereas I only know about tennis and partying and cooking burgers, on languages lots of French folks have met do say I speak very good French eg. "Bonjour mon garcon, j'espere tout le arrier mains
    sont comme Reechard Gasquet dan le tennis court!" then they say "Ohhh oui monsier, tres bon! Monsier Iceberg vous est tres bien!"
    What is 'Indian style communism'? Also, you say you only know tennis, partying, and cooking burgers. However, based on your unceasing rantings here, it seems you are into politics as well :) Finally, you only know two languages whereas Raja knows three
    apart from being good in engineering, math, music, IT, and a host of other things. He wins :)

    Indian style communism is Raja's dream system and was invented by his hero that old communist Bernie Sanders. Yes about politics, sorry forgot know lots of history which Raja doesn't but that explains why he loves Indian-style communism. Also errrm Raja
    would definitely lose vs me especially at tennis! come on, you know am over 6ft tall so he like over a foot smaller + he eats too many doughnuts, you're the same, yes? also engineering? sounds like you making that up about him or are you hoping he can
    give you a lift in his Prius when you meet up next? LOL

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  • From Gracchus@21:1/5 to Whisper on Mon Jul 24 09:21:46 2023
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:53:05 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
    On 24/07/2023 3:17 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:23:07 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:

    Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports >> star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I
    say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in
    this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free >> ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )

    Why don't you ask Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc? They're millionaires many times over. Social status in life has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not somebody is abusive. Seriously, it's an ignorant remark. Come on, now!

    Zverev is a small fish in a very large scummy pond.
    Those are old rich guys who got away with a lot of crap in pre-woke
    times. Zverev literally has nothing to gain and everything to lose,
    sorry but nobody is that stupid. He could just easily walk away and
    live a fantastic life hooking up with an endless supply of models (like
    Leo Di Caprio has perfected) rather than bashing his partners.

    I may be generalizing but most of the women these guys hang out with are super hot but have nothing else going for them, prob would have to work
    at burger king otherwise, try onlyfans etc. You bet they will do
    whatever it takes to get at some of that hot easy moolah - minimal
    effort for lots of gain. I'm annoyed I even have to discuss this silly
    stuff on rst, all will be thrown out of court as baseless nonsense, huge yawn.

    You're rehashing an ancient fallacy used to defend rich guys who commit such offenses-: why would he ever bother himself with a "woman like this" when he has so many options? And why would a guy with so much to lose take such a risk? There are lots of
    reasons. Poor impulse control, thrill of the risk, indulging violent fantasies against those who are easy to discredit & intimidate since they lack the resources to fight back physically or legally, etc. As for the idea about anyone with a shred of
    intelligence taking such a risk, look at Bill Clinton as a case in point--graduate of Yale Law School and Rhodes scholar who won the U.S. presidency and then had an intern give him blowjobs in the Oval Office while under investigation and with political
    enemies waiting to pounce on any misstep. Pretty damn reckless and stupid, but he did it anyway because he felt like it.

    So it's a bogus rationale. Having said that, the problem I have with Court 1's viewpoint is that she's ready to convict, sentence, and condemn someone even before investigation, because when a woman accuses a man, he must be guilty. It's not even
    possible she's malicious or has ulterior motives. Therefore, the man's livelihood and life as he knows it need to be destroyed forever without further ado. The alleged victim doesn't even need to file a formal complaint with the police. She can tell a
    tabloid reporter or post it online, and her accusations remain just as rock-solid as if they had been thoroughly investigated and proven factual. If any women speak up in his defense, they must have been paid off because he's rich. If no other women come
    forward, they are just biding their time. If the man has ever shown signs of a temper or jealously in any other context, it's as good as evidence he beats up women because he "fits the profile," etc.

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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Mon Jul 24 09:23:07 2023
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 11:15:38 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 15:10:33 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:02:31 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Sunday, 23 July 2023 at 22:32:57 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:54:33 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 23:08:35 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-
    needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and
    if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
    --
    I will restrict myself to the Indian Bengalis (Of course there are bright minds on the other side of the divide as well). Bengalis are the brightest Indians in the US as far as statistics and probability is concerned. There is the Indian
    Statistical Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are excellent writers in the English language.
    is that as good as the Bangalore Online University where Raja got all his degrees from?
    Raja is good in many things, including at least three languages (Tamil, Hindi, English) You? :)
    Raja's is a real expert in Indian-style communism whereas I only know about tennis and partying and cooking burgers, on languages lots of French folks have met do say I speak very good French eg. "Bonjour mon garcon, j'espere tout le arrier mains
    sont comme Reechard Gasquet dan le tennis court!" then they say "Ohhh oui monsier, tres bon! Monsier Iceberg vous est tres bien!"
    What is 'Indian style communism'? Also, you say you only know tennis, partying, and cooking burgers. However, based on your unceasing rantings here, it seems you are into politics as well :) Finally, you only know two languages whereas Raja knows
    three apart from being good in engineering, math, music, IT, and a host of other things. He wins :)
    Indian style communism is Raja's dream system and was invented by his hero that old communist Bernie Sanders. Yes about

    What is it exactly. Be specific.


    politics, sorry forgot know lots of history which Raja doesn't but that explains why he loves Indian-style communism. Also errrm Raja would definitely lose vs me especially at tennis! come on, you know am over 6ft tall so he like over a foot smaller +

    You would lose to him in math! Probably. Ramanujan the genius, the all time top 5 mathematician, was barely 5 feet and some inches. Yet he towered in math. So height doesn't matter, if you are not into tennis!

    he eats too many doughnuts, you're the same, yes? also engineering? sounds like you making that up about him or are you hoping he can give you a lift in his Prius when you meet up next? LOL

    I don't eat doughnuts. You won't understand if I explain to you what I consume. Strictly vegetarian and avoiding sugar these days. I think Raja did engineering. What's wrong with Prius? You won't understand its mechanics anyway ;)

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to gap...@gmail.com on Mon Jul 24 09:15:47 2023
    On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 15:24:37 UTC+1, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 10:10:33 AM UTC-4, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:02:31 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Sunday, 23 July 2023 at 22:32:57 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:54:33 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 23:08:35 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-
    needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and
    if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.

    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
    --
    I will restrict myself to the Indian Bengalis (Of course there are bright minds on the other side of the divide as well). Bengalis are the brightest Indians in the US as far as statistics and probability is concerned. There is the Indian
    Statistical Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are excellent writers in the English language.
    is that as good as the Bangalore Online University where Raja got all his degrees from?
    Raja is good in many things, including at least three languages (Tamil, Hindi, English) You? :)
    Raja's is a real expert in Indian-style communism whereas I only know about tennis and partying and cooking burgers, on languages lots of French folks have met do say I speak very good French eg. "Bonjour mon garcon, j'espere tout le arrier mains
    sont comme Reechard Gasquet dan le tennis court!" then they say "Ohhh oui monsier, tres bon! Monsier Iceberg vous est tres bien!"
    What is 'Indian style communism'? Also, you say you only know tennis, partying, and cooking burgers. However, based on your unceasing rantings here, it seems you are into politics as well :) Finally, you only know two languages whereas Raja knows
    three apart from being good in engineering, math, music, IT, and a host of other things. He wins :)
    Never got that a tennis pro in UK, is fascinated by US politics ? Right wing nut job? Yanks don't give a shit about UK politics! Nice PM and his rich wife!

    so why did your hero Obama and his husband(they keep say that on Twitter quite funny) come over here and holler so much about us and the EUSSR then?!

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to olympia0000@yahoo.com on Mon Jul 24 14:47:54 2023
    Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:30:58AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Court_1 Wrote in message:r > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Court_1 > Wrote in message:r> > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4,
    PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-
    action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes,
    that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy
    is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS. > > What is wrong with Bengali people? Nothing. But isn't it common practice in Bangladesh
    for men to commit domestic violence? So really, should you be trusted when you weigh in on this topic? For me, no you shouldn't. Plus, you're a nutter of the highest order with respect to your bizarre worshipping of Federer. A grown "man" acting like a
    lovesick puppy or something about a public figure who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.https://www.ucanews.com/news/domestic-abuse-a-daily-reality-for-bangladeshi-women/70582> Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their
    countries. *calls me a racist and then proceeds to make sexist comments* > I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right? Yeah, sure. But when multiple women begin to come forward with similar stories the
    chances of "innocence" are at about 1%. Have there been any such public "extortion claims" from women against say Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal? Believe me, they all have multiple partners/women. Probably one in every city. If one is going
    to extort, why not go to the men with real money? Why are two women picking on Zverev(a bum in comparison to many wealthy, famous men.) In any case, you can think what you want. But I, Navratilova, and anybody else can also think what we want. > > I
    really don't think you have the mental capacity to discuss anything, switching discussions from Bangali to Federer, and going roids on zverev because a woman accused him with something. > > Are you all nuts in Canada like this? > The only issue I have
    with zverev is his choice of low quality women that you represent.That's a compliment coming from a sexist weirdo like you.Yes, when I give my opinion about Zverev and why I think you approve of it, I don't have mental capacity but when you say women(
    plural) accusing Zverev of abuse must be low quality women and you are notorious for being a Fedfucker extraordinaire on RST, your mental capacity shouldn't be questioned! No sir, never!Everybody on RST knows your fanboying of Federer is abnormal. I
    mean, how old are you? 60? You have every single excuse in the book going when Federer loses countless legacy-determining matches to his biggest rivals and with you, the goalposts keep changing in order to substantiate your narrative.I guess you'll just
    have to try and have women like Navratilova, me and countless other women with brains beheaded for expressing an opinion. Isn't that what they do over where you're from?

    There is no one more sexist than you, and no one badly represent
    women more than you.

    I deal with high class and professional women, never seen a more
    weirdo than you.

    You are a lonely depressed woman.
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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to RaspingDrive on Mon Jul 24 12:37:25 2023
    On 7/24/23 9:23 AM, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 11:15:38 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 15:10:33 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:02:31 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Sunday, 23 July 2023 at 22:32:57 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:54:33 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 23:08:35 UTC+1, RaspingDrive wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote: >>>>>>>> Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote: > > I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes* > > > > > > https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-
    actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev > > > > What a cretin this guy is.> The new woman is the mother of their child. So?> Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if
    charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up
    with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be many more!The guy is a POS.
    What is wrong with Bengali people?
    Probably they are better than racists like you shaming people by their countries.

    I believe people in Canada believe the person is innocent until he/she is found guilty, right?

    The funny thing you say you work in a law office as a barista and somehow you didn't learn anything yet :)
    --
    I will restrict myself to the Indian Bengalis (Of course there are bright minds on the other side of the divide as well). Bengalis are the brightest Indians in the US as far as statistics and probability is concerned. There is the Indian
    Statistical Institute at Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) which is, arguably, comparable to the best institution in the US, or, for that matter, Europe. Also, many Bengalis are excellent writers in the English language.
    is that as good as the Bangalore Online University where Raja got all his degrees from?
    Raja is good in many things, including at least three languages (Tamil, Hindi, English) You? :)
    Raja's is a real expert in Indian-style communism whereas I only know about tennis and partying and cooking burgers, on languages lots of French folks have met do say I speak very good French eg. "Bonjour mon garcon, j'espere tout le arrier mains
    sont comme Reechard Gasquet dan le tennis court!" then they say "Ohhh oui monsier, tres bon! Monsier Iceberg vous est tres bien!"
    What is 'Indian style communism'? Also, you say you only know tennis, partying, and cooking burgers. However, based on your unceasing rantings here, it seems you are into politics as well :) Finally, you only know two languages whereas Raja knows
    three apart from being good in engineering, math, music, IT, and a host of other things. He wins :)
    Indian style communism is Raja's dream system and was invented by his hero that old communist Bernie Sanders. Yes about
    What is it exactly. Be specific.


    politics, sorry forgot know lots of history which Raja doesn't but that explains why he loves Indian-style communism. Also errrm Raja would definitely lose vs me especially at tennis! come on, you know am over 6ft tall so he like over a foot smaller +

    You would lose to him in math! Probably. Ramanujan the genius, the all time top 5 mathematician, was barely 5 feet and some inches. Yet he towered in math. So height doesn't matter, if you are not into tennis!

    he eats too many doughnuts, you're the same, yes? also engineering? sounds like you making that up about him or are you hoping he can give you a lift in his Prius when you meet up next? LOL

    I don't eat doughnuts. You won't understand if I explain to you what I consume. Strictly vegetarian and avoiding sugar these days. I think Raja did engineering. What's wrong with Prius? You won't understand its mechanics anyway ;)

    Gosh...

    I read the subject line and quickly passed to your online handle.

    For a second I thought it was "RapingDrive"...

    The power of suggestion is a mysterious thing...

    ;^)

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to Gracchus on Mon Jul 24 12:42:32 2023
    On 7/24/23 9:21 AM, Gracchus wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:53:05 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
    On 24/07/2023 3:17 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:23:07 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports >>>> star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I >>>> say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in >>>> this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free >>>> ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )
    Why don't you ask Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc? They're millionaires many times over. Social status in life has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not somebody is abusive. Seriously, it's an ignorant remark. Come on, now!

    Zverev is a small fish in a very large scummy pond.
    Those are old rich guys who got away with a lot of crap in pre-woke
    times. Zverev literally has nothing to gain and everything to lose,
    sorry but nobody is that stupid. He could just easily walk away and
    live a fantastic life hooking up with an endless supply of models (like
    Leo Di Caprio has perfected) rather than bashing his partners.

    I may be generalizing but most of the women these guys hang out with are
    super hot but have nothing else going for them, prob would have to work
    at burger king otherwise, try onlyfans etc. You bet they will do
    whatever it takes to get at some of that hot easy moolah - minimal
    effort for lots of gain. I'm annoyed I even have to discuss this silly
    stuff on rst, all will be thrown out of court as baseless nonsense, huge
    yawn.
    You're rehashing an ancient fallacy used to defend rich guys who commit such offenses-: why would he ever bother himself with a "woman like this" when he has so many options? And why would a guy with so much to lose take such a risk? There are lots of
    reasons. Poor impulse control, thrill of the risk, indulging violent fantasies against those who are easy to discredit & intimidate since they lack the resources to fight back physically or legally, etc. As for the idea about anyone with a shred of
    intelligence taking such a risk, look at Bill Clinton as a case in point--graduate of Yale Law School and Rhodes scholar who won the U.S. presidency and then had an intern give him blowjobs in the Oval Office while under investigation and with political
    enemies waiting to pounce on any misstep. Pretty damn reckless and stupid, but he did it anyway because he felt like it.

    So it's a bogus rationale. Having said that, the problem I have with Court 1's viewpoint is that she's ready to convict, sentence, and condemn someone even before investigation, because when a woman accuses a man, he must be guilty. It's not even
    possible she's malicious or has ulterior motives. Therefore, the man's livelihood and life as he knows it need to be destroyed forever without further ado. The alleged victim doesn't even need to file a formal complaint with the police. She can tell a
    tabloid reporter or post it online, and her accusations remain just as rock-solid as if they had been thoroughly investigated and proven factual. If any women speak up in his defense, they must have been paid off because he's rich. If no other women come
    forward, they are just biding their time. If the man has ever shown signs of a temper or jealously in any other context, it's as good as evidence he beats up women because he "fits the profile," etc.
    Which is just like racial profiling. No difference.

    Basically, it's a sort of "Git a rope" mentality.

    This is where we are now in western culture: you're either with me or
    against me, and people like me are 100% good, and people like you 100% bad.

    I'll survive individually, but I'm damned glad I'm real old.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Tue Jul 25 07:42:36 2023
    On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 20:42:36 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 7/24/23 9:21 AM, Gracchus wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:53:05 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
    On 24/07/2023 3:17 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:23:07 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports
    star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I >>>> say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in >>>> this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free >>>> ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )
    Why don't you ask Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc? They're millionaires many times over. Social status in life has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not somebody is abusive. Seriously, it's an ignorant remark. Come on, now!

    Zverev is a small fish in a very large scummy pond.
    Those are old rich guys who got away with a lot of crap in pre-woke
    times. Zverev literally has nothing to gain and everything to lose,
    sorry but nobody is that stupid. He could just easily walk away and
    live a fantastic life hooking up with an endless supply of models (like >> Leo Di Caprio has perfected) rather than bashing his partners.

    I may be generalizing but most of the women these guys hang out with are >> super hot but have nothing else going for them, prob would have to work >> at burger king otherwise, try onlyfans etc. You bet they will do
    whatever it takes to get at some of that hot easy moolah - minimal
    effort for lots of gain. I'm annoyed I even have to discuss this silly
    stuff on rst, all will be thrown out of court as baseless nonsense, huge >> yawn.
    You're rehashing an ancient fallacy used to defend rich guys who commit such offenses-: why would he ever bother himself with a "woman like this" when he has so many options? And why would a guy with so much to lose take such a risk? There are lots
    of reasons. Poor impulse control, thrill of the risk, indulging violent fantasies against those who are easy to discredit & intimidate since they lack the resources to fight back physically or legally, etc. As for the idea about anyone with a shred of
    intelligence taking such a risk, look at Bill Clinton as a case in point--graduate of Yale Law School and Rhodes scholar who won the U.S. presidency and then had an intern give him blowjobs in the Oval Office while under investigation and with political
    enemies waiting to pounce on any misstep. Pretty damn reckless and stupid, but he did it anyway because he felt like it.

    So it's a bogus rationale. Having said that, the problem I have with Court 1's viewpoint is that she's ready to convict, sentence, and condemn someone even before investigation, because when a woman accuses a man, he must be guilty. It's not even
    possible she's malicious or has ulterior motives. Therefore, the man's livelihood and life as he knows it need to be destroyed forever without further ado. The alleged victim doesn't even need to file a formal complaint with the police. She can tell a
    tabloid reporter or post it online, and her accusations remain just as rock-solid as if they had been thoroughly investigated and proven factual. If any women speak up in his defense, they must have been paid off because he's rich. If no other women come
    forward, they are just biding their time. If the man has ever shown signs of a temper or jealously in any other context, it's as good as evidence he beats up women because he "fits the profile," etc.
    Which is just like racial profiling. No difference.

    Basically, it's a sort of "Git a rope" mentality.

    This is where we are now in western culture: you're either with me or against me, and people like me are 100% good, and people like you 100% bad.

    yes like the Black community and black criminals, somehow you're not allowed to discriminate between the two!

    I'll survive individually, but I'm damned glad I'm real old.

    yes, you can't minorly dislike or disagree about anything either, NO, that means you absolutely "hate" it/them!!

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Tue Jul 25 08:40:32 2023
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 2:47:58 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 Wrote in message:r
    That's a compliment coming from a sexist weirdo like you.Yes, when I give my opinion about Zverev and why I think you approve of it, I don't have mental capacity but when you say women(plural) accusing Zverev of abuse must be low quality women and you
    are notorious for being a Fedfucker extraordinaire on RST, your mental capacity shouldn't be questioned! No sir, never!Everybody on RST knows your fanboying of Federer is abnormal. I mean, how old are you? 60? You have every single excuse in the book
    going when Federer loses countless legacy-determining matches to his biggest rivals and with you, the goalposts keep changing in order to substantiate your narrative.I guess you'll just have to try and have women like Navratilova, me and countless other
    women with brains beheaded for expressing an opinion. Isn't that what they do over where you're from?

    There is no one more sexist than you, and no one badly represent
    women more than you.

    Says the man who comes from a country where gender inequality, discrimination against women, violence against women and polygamy is legendary. Give me a break!


    I deal with high class and professional women,

    Hookers you mean?

    never seen a more
    weirdo than you.

    You are a lonely depressed woman.

    Yes, of course. That's what men like you try and do to women who express opinions different than yours, i.e. become oppressive and automatically point the "she must be lonely and depressed" finger. It's boring. Zzzz.

    I'm sorry to disappoint you but that's not the case. I'm not the one on RST 24-7 and jerking off to Federer's image. I'm also not the one who runs away like a little child at the thought of a Djokovic-Alcaraz Wimbledon final where Djokovic may tie
    Federer's last pertinent record. What do you do? You make up some BS story about how you didn't have access to the internet and a stream and yet, you were posting on RST of all things at the same time. You're a joke.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to Gracchus on Tue Jul 25 08:55:21 2023
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 12:21:48 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:53:05 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
    On 24/07/2023 3:17 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:23:07 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:

    Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports
    star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I >> say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in >> this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free >> ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )

    Why don't you ask Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc? They're millionaires many times over. Social status in life has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not somebody is abusive. Seriously, it's an ignorant remark. Come on, now!

    Zverev is a small fish in a very large scummy pond.
    Those are old rich guys who got away with a lot of crap in pre-woke
    times. Zverev literally has nothing to gain and everything to lose,
    sorry but nobody is that stupid. He could just easily walk away and
    live a fantastic life hooking up with an endless supply of models (like Leo Di Caprio has perfected) rather than bashing his partners.

    I may be generalizing but most of the women these guys hang out with are super hot but have nothing else going for them, prob would have to work
    at burger king otherwise, try onlyfans etc. You bet they will do
    whatever it takes to get at some of that hot easy moolah - minimal
    effort for lots of gain. I'm annoyed I even have to discuss this silly stuff on rst, all will be thrown out of court as baseless nonsense, huge yawn.

    You're rehashing an ancient fallacy used to defend rich guys who commit such offenses-: why would he ever bother himself with a "woman like this" when he has so many options? And why would a guy with so much to lose take such a risk? There are lots of
    reasons. Poor impulse control, thrill of the risk, indulging violent fantasies against those who are easy to discredit & intimidate since they lack the resources to fight back physically or legally, etc. As for the idea about anyone with a shred of
    intelligence taking such a risk, look at Bill Clinton as a case in point--graduate of Yale Law School and Rhodes scholar who won the U.S. presidency and then had an intern give him blowjobs in the Oval Office while under investigation and with political
    enemies waiting to pounce on any misstep. Pretty damn reckless and stupid, but he did it anyway because he felt like it.

    He has it completely wrong. It's clearly an uneducated opinion. It's a waste of time for me to try and argue with a person who has it so completely backwards.


    So it's a bogus rationale. Having said that, the problem I have with Court 1's viewpoint is that she's ready to convict, sentence, and condemn someone even before investigation, because when a woman accuses a man, he must be guilty. It's not even
    possible she's malicious or has ulterior motives. Therefore, the man's livelihood and life as he knows it need to be destroyed forever without further ado. The alleged victim doesn't even need to file a formal complaint with the police. She can tell a
    tabloid reporter or post it online, and her accusations remain just as rock-solid as if they had been thoroughly investigated and proven factual. If any women speak up in his defense, they must have been paid off because he's rich. If no other women come
    forward, they are just biding their time. If the man has ever shown signs of a temper or jealously in any other context, it's as good as evidence he beats up women because he "fits the profile," etc.

    I'm not ready to convict every man. I take it case by case. However, what I do know specifically from working in the past in this legal area, most women who do file lawsuits against men in these abuse cases are not lying. The stats are are there. I've
    said it over and over again on this newsgroup but facts don't matter on here I guess.

    Sure Amber Heard is an exception to the rule and I've admitted that many times but Depp is no innocent victim either. He's an abusive creep.

    Also, you're claiming I think all men are guilty right off the bat but aren't many men on this newsgroup doing the same in the opposite direction? Aren't they automatically assuming every woman is out to get these public and famous men?

    In any case, we're going in circles. It's better to discuss tennis as this is a tennis ng. But even discussing tennis on social media is fraught with challenges as there are so many fanatics who can't be reasoned with. It's always all or nothing, i.e. my
    favorite player is the greatest in every single way and goalposts must be moved to further that narrative at any cost, my favorite player couldn't possibly dope but every one of his/her rivals dopes without a shadow of a doubt, etc. etc. The tennis
    fanatic world is such a deeply flawed population IMO.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Tue Jul 25 09:06:07 2023
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 11:51:19 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 Wrote in message:r
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 2:47:58 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Court_1 Wrote in message:r >That's a compliment coming from a sexist weirdo like you.Yes, when I give my opinion about Zverev and why I think you approve of it, I don't have mental
    capacity but when you say women(plural) accusing Zverev of abuse must be low quality women and you are notorious for being a Fedfucker extraordinaire on RST, your mental capacity shouldn't be questioned! No sir, never!Everybody on RST knows your
    fanboying of Federer is abnormal. I mean, how old are you? 60? You have every single excuse in the book going when Federer loses countless legacy-determining matches to his biggest rivals and with you, the goalposts keep changing in order to substantiate
    your narrative.I guess you'll just have to try and have women like Navratilova, me and countless other women with brains beheaded for expressing an opinion. Isn't that what they do over where you're from? > > There is no one more sexist than you, and no
    one badly represent > women more than you. Says the man who comes from a country where gender inequality, discrimination against women, violence against women and polygamy is legendary. Give me a break! > I deal with high class and professional women,
    Hookers you mean?> never seen a more > weirdo than you. > > You are a lonely depressed woman.Yes, of course. That's what men like you try and do to women who express opinions different than yours, i.e. become oppressive and automatically point the "she
    must be lonely and depressed" finger. It's boring. Zzzz. I'm sorry to disappoint you but that's not the case. I'm not the one on RST 24-7 and jerking off to Federer's image. I'm also not the one who runs away like a little child at the thought of a
    Djokovic-Alcaraz Wimbledon final where Djokovic may tie Federer's last pertinent record. What do you do? You make up some BS story about how you didn't have access to the internet and a stream and yet, you were posting on RST of all things at the same
    time. You're a joke.

    If the location of my birth determines quality to you, then I am much superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada.

    USA is superior to Canada? You obviously know nothing about Canada.

    But people that resort to their place of birth or any similar traits when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you tolerate it, it will be hard, and you
    will agree with me.

    *says people who resort to using another's place of birth negatively in a discussion are garbage and then goes on to tell me I'm garbage because of my place of birth* You really aren't that bright are you?

    I'm being realistic. You are from a country(I doubt you were born in USA) where women's rights are negligible so yes, I'm suspect of your "objective" opinions on the matter.

    You also have behaved like a loon on this ng for years with your worshipping of a tennis player who basically doesn't know or care that you exist. Sorry, that's just creepy.

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to olympia0000@yahoo.com on Tue Jul 25 11:51:13 2023
    Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 2:47:58PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Court_1 Wrote in message:r >That's a compliment coming from a sexist weirdo like you.Yes, when I give my opinion about Zverev and why I think you approve of it, I don't have mental
    capacity but when you say women(plural) accusing Zverev of abuse must be low quality women and you are notorious for being a Fedfucker extraordinaire on RST, your mental capacity shouldn't be questioned! No sir, never!Everybody on RST knows your
    fanboying of Federer is abnormal. I mean, how old are you? 60? You have every single excuse in the book going when Federer loses countless legacy-determining matches to his biggest rivals and with you, the goalposts keep changing in order to substantiate
    your narrative.I guess you'll just have to try and have women like Navratilova, me and countless other women with brains beheaded for expressing an opinion. Isn't that what they do over where you're from? > > There is no one more sexist than you, and no
    one badly represent > women more than you. Says the man who comes from a country where gender inequality, discrimination against women, violence against women and polygamy is legendary. Give me a break! > I deal with high class and professional women,
    Hookers you mean?> never seen a more > weirdo than you. > > You are a lonely depressed woman.Yes, of course. That's what men like you try and do to women who express opinions different than yours, i.e. become oppressive and automatically point the "she
    must be lonely and depressed" finger. It's boring. Zzzz. I'm sorry to disappoint you but that's not the case. I'm not the one on RST 24-7 and jerking off to Federer's image. I'm also not the one who runs away like a little child at the thought of a
    Djokovic-Alcaraz Wimbledon final where Djokovic may tie Federer's last pertinent record. What do you do? You make up some BS story about how you didn't have access to the internet and a stream and yet, you were posting on RST of all things at the same
    time. You're a joke.

    If the location of my birth determines quality to you, then I am much superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada.

    But people that resort to their place of birth or any similar traits when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you tolerate it, it will be hard, and you will
    agree with me.



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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 09:26:31 2023
    On 7/25/23 8:40 AM, Court_1 wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 2:47:58 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 Wrote in message:r
    That's a compliment coming from a sexist weirdo like you.Yes, when I give my opinion about Zverev and why I think you approve of it, I don't have mental capacity but when you say women(plural) accusing Zverev of abuse must be low quality women and you
    are notorious for being a Fedfucker extraordinaire on RST, your mental capacity shouldn't be questioned! No sir, never!Everybody on RST knows your fanboying of Federer is abnormal. I mean, how old are you? 60? You have every single excuse in the book
    going when Federer loses countless legacy-determining matches to his biggest rivals and with you, the goalposts keep changing in order to substantiate your narrative.I guess you'll just have to try and have women like Navratilova, me and countless other
    women with brains beheaded for expressing an opinion. Isn't that what they do over where you're from?

    There is no one more sexist than you, and no one badly represent
    women more than you.
    Says the man who comes from a country where gender inequality, discrimination against women, violence against women and polygamy is legendary. Give me a break!


    I deal with high class and professional women,
    Hookers you mean?

    never seen a more
    weirdo than you.

    You are a lonely depressed woman.
    Yes, of course. That's what men like you try and do to women who express opinions different than yours, i.e. become oppressive and automatically point the "she must be lonely and depressed" finger. It's boring. Zzzz.

    I'm sorry to disappoint you but that's not the case. I'm not the one on RST 24-7 and jerking off to Federer's image. I'm also not the one who runs away like a little child at the thought of a Djokovic-Alcaraz Wimbledon final where Djokovic may tie
    Federer's last pertinent record. What do you do? You make up some BS story about how you didn't have access to the internet and a stream and yet, you were posting on RST of all things at the same time. You're a joke.


    You're fun to exchange with, have a different POV, but sometimes in
    bantering about you REALLY cross the line, you know. In my case it's my
    family; not me, not my deplorable traits, but my family, of whom you
    know very little, so you seem to like to fall back to stereotypes.

    This is not something a person like yourself should invite, this
    negative stereotyping. Your own group identity is not well liked and is
    even reviled by many. Mistrusted, self-absorbed, complaining,
    manipulative, arrogant.

    That's right. No one likes Canucks. You must know this by now.

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    That it's a shame and a pity
    You were raised
    Up in the city
    And you never learned nothin'
    'bout country ways."


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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 09:43:25 2023
    On 7/25/23 8:55 AM, Court_1 wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 12:21:48 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:53:05 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
    On 24/07/2023 3:17 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:23:07 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports >>>>> star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I >>>>> say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in >>>>> this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free >>>>> ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )
    Why don't you ask Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc? They're millionaires many times over. Social status in life has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not somebody is abusive. Seriously, it's an ignorant remark. Come on, now!

    Zverev is a small fish in a very large scummy pond.
    Those are old rich guys who got away with a lot of crap in pre-woke
    times. Zverev literally has nothing to gain and everything to lose,
    sorry but nobody is that stupid. He could just easily walk away and
    live a fantastic life hooking up with an endless supply of models (like
    Leo Di Caprio has perfected) rather than bashing his partners.

    I may be generalizing but most of the women these guys hang out with are >>> super hot but have nothing else going for them, prob would have to work
    at burger king otherwise, try onlyfans etc. You bet they will do
    whatever it takes to get at some of that hot easy moolah - minimal
    effort for lots of gain. I'm annoyed I even have to discuss this silly
    stuff on rst, all will be thrown out of court as baseless nonsense, huge >>> yawn.
    You're rehashing an ancient fallacy used to defend rich guys who commit such offenses-: why would he ever bother himself with a "woman like this" when he has so many options? And why would a guy with so much to lose take such a risk? There are lots of
    reasons. Poor impulse control, thrill of the risk, indulging violent fantasies against those who are easy to discredit & intimidate since they lack the resources to fight back physically or legally, etc. As for the idea about anyone with a shred of
    intelligence taking such a risk, look at Bill Clinton as a case in point--graduate of Yale Law School and Rhodes scholar who won the U.S. presidency and then had an intern give him blowjobs in the Oval Office while under investigation and with political
    enemies waiting to pounce on any misstep. Pretty damn reckless and stupid, but he did it anyway because he felt like it.
    He has it completely wrong. It's clearly an uneducated opinion. It's a waste of time for me to try and argue with a person who has it so completely backwards.


    So it's a bogus rationale. Having said that, the problem I have with Court 1's viewpoint is that she's ready to convict, sentence, and condemn someone even before investigation, because when a woman accuses a man, he must be guilty. It's not even
    possible she's malicious or has ulterior motives. Therefore, the man's livelihood and life as he knows it need to be destroyed forever without further ado. The alleged victim doesn't even need to file a formal complaint with the police. She can tell a
    tabloid reporter or post it online, and her accusations remain just as rock-solid as if they had been thoroughly investigated and proven factual. If any women speak up in his defense, they must have been paid off because he's rich. If no other women come
    forward, they are just biding their time. If the man has ever shown signs of a temper or jealously in any other context, it's as good as evidence he beats up women because he "fits the profile," etc.
    I'm not ready to convict every man. I take it case by case. However, what I do know specifically from working in the past in this legal area, most women who do file lawsuits against men in these abuse cases are not lying. The stats are are there. I've
    said it over and over again on this newsgroup but facts don't matter on here I guess.

    Sure Amber Heard is an exception to the rule and I've admitted that many times but Depp is no innocent victim either. He's an abusive creep.

    Also, you're claiming I think all men are guilty right off the bat but aren't many men on this newsgroup doing the same in the opposite direction? Aren't they automatically assuming every woman is out to get these public and famous men?

    In any case, we're going in circles. It's better to discuss tennis as this is a tennis ng. But even discussing tennis on social media is fraught with challenges as there are so many fanatics who can't be reasoned with. It's always all or nothing, i.e.
    my favorite player is the greatest in every single way and goalposts must be moved to further that narrative at any cost, my favorite player couldn't possibly dope but every one of his/her rivals dopes without a shadow of a doubt, etc. etc. The tennis
    fanatic world is such a deeply flawed population IMO.


    Let me start with this: I think you are a positive addition to 90% of
    the discussions here. That puts your contributive value in the upper
    quartile of RST.

    But in other ten percent, it's not because your ideas are bad or wrong
    (people can have opinions of all kinds, that's natural) but at a certain
    point you go to personal insults. You sometimes are angered or surprised
    that people will not take you at your word, which is often a rhetorical
    polemic to advance your position in a disagreement. This too, is fine.

    But the danger in this lies when you ask/expect people to take your word without objective support. Remember: you may have only three posts back
    stated something as absolute fact when it obviously is neither obvious
    nor absolute. To then say, essentially "Trust me on this one", few will
    do that. And because few do, it angers you, apparently, and you go
    personal. This leads to a figurative WWIII.

    That's very hard to take and continue to have respect for the other 90%
    of your contributions, which are considerable.

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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Tue Jul 25 09:53:09 2023
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:46:49 PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:


    If the location of my birth determines quality to you, then I am much superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So
    clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada.

    But people that resort to their place of birth or any similar traits
    when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are
    the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you tolerate it, it will be hard, and you will agree with me.
    You're a native English speaker? Seriously? No kidding, most 6 month
    ESL students I've met sound like Henry Higgins next to you.

    His writings do not sound idiomatic, more like a literal translation of his mother tongue, Bengali? Most Indians here sound like that, accents from all across South Asia,?

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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Tue Jul 25 08:46:43 2023
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:


    If the location of my birth determines quality to you, then I am much superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So
    clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada.

    But people that resort to their place of birth or any similar traits
    when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are
    the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you tolerate it, it will be hard, and you will agree with me.

    You're a native English speaker? Seriously? No kidding, most 6 month
    ESL students I've met sound like Henry Higgins next to you.

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 10:01:36 2023
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:06:09 PM UTC-4, Court_1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 11:51:19 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    Court_1 Wrote in message:r
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 2:47:58 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Court_1 Wrote in message:r >That's a compliment coming from a sexist weirdo like you.Yes, when I give my opinion about Zverev and why I think you approve of it, I don't have mental
    capacity but when you say women(plural) accusing Zverev of abuse must be low quality women and you are notorious for being a Fedfucker extraordinaire on RST, your mental capacity shouldn't be questioned! No sir, never!Everybody on RST knows your
    fanboying of Federer is abnormal. I mean, how old are you? 60? You have every single excuse in the book going when Federer loses countless legacy-determining matches to his biggest rivals and with you, the goalposts keep changing in order to substantiate
    your narrative.I guess you'll just have to try and have women like Navratilova, me and countless other women with brains beheaded for expressing an opinion. Isn't that what they do over where you're from? > > There is no one more sexist than you, and no
    one badly represent > women more than you. Says the man who comes from a country where gender inequality, discrimination against women, violence against women and polygamy is legendary. Give me a break! > I deal with high class and professional women,
    Hookers you mean?> never seen a more > weirdo than you. > > You are a lonely depressed woman.Yes, of course. That's what men like you try and do to women who express opinions different than yours, i.e. become oppressive and automatically point the "she
    must be lonely and depressed" finger. It's boring. Zzzz. I'm sorry to disappoint you but that's not the case. I'm not the one on RST 24-7 and jerking off to Federer's image. I'm also not the one who runs away like a little child at the thought of a
    Djokovic-Alcaraz Wimbledon final where Djokovic may tie Federer's last pertinent record. What do you do? You make up some BS story about how you didn't have access to the internet and a stream and yet, you were posting on RST of all things at the same
    time. You're a joke.

    If the location of my birth determines quality to you, then I am much superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada.
    USA is superior to Canada? You obviously know nothing about Canada.

    lol, I know Canada very well, enjoy your Trudeau :)

    But people that resort to their place of birth or any similar traits when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you tolerate it, it will be hard, and you
    will agree with me.
    *says people who resort to using another's place of birth negatively in a discussion are garbage and then goes on to tell me I'm garbage because of my place of birth* You really aren't that bright are you?

    I'm being realistic. You are from a country(I doubt you were born in USA) where women's rights are negligible so yes, I'm suspect of your "objective" opinions on the matter.

    lol, hilarious, are you that dumb really? Are you still investigating where I was born? Hilarious really.
    Do you want to meet for coffee? Just come down to Boston, not far, or I can drive north few hours.


    You also have behaved like a loon on this ng for years with your worshipping of a tennis player who basically doesn't know or care that you exist. Sorry, that's just creepy.

    Looking for anything else to shame the person you are talking to? And you want us to believe any woman accusation?
    lol

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to gap...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 10:02:23 2023
    On 7/25/23 9:53 AM, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:46:49 PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:

    If the location of my birth determines quality to you, then I am much
    superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So
    clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada.

    But people that resort to their place of birth or any similar traits
    when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are
    the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you
    tolerate it, it will be hard, and you will agree with me.
    You're a native English speaker? Seriously? No kidding, most 6 month
    ESL students I've met sound like Henry Higgins next to you.
    His writings do not sound idiomatic, more like a literal translation of his mother tongue, Bengali? Most Indians here sound like that, accents from all across South Asia,?

    Who gives a shit?

    --
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    "Petition the lord with prayer...

    "Petition the lord with prayer...

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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Tue Jul 25 10:07:17 2023
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 1:02:27 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
    On 7/25/23 9:53 AM, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:46:49 PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:

    If the location of my birth determines quality to you, then I am much >>> superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So
    clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada.

    But people that resort to their place of birth or any similar traits
    when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are >>> the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you >>> tolerate it, it will be hard, and you will agree with me.
    You're a native English speaker? Seriously? No kidding, most 6 month
    ESL students I've met sound like Henry Higgins next to you.
    His writings do not sound idiomatic, more like a literal translation of his mother tongue, Bengali? Most Indians here sound like that, accents from all across South Asia,?
    Who gives a shit?

    -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "When I was back there in seminary school, there was a person there who put forth the proposition that you can petition the Lord with prayer...

    "Petition the lord with prayer...

    "Petition the lord with prayer...

    "YOU CANNOT PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER!"

    --Sawfish

    Break from sukking whisp’s cock boy. Or it skrip or ice today? Post 100 more garbage posts?

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  • From Gracchus@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 10:34:29 2023
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:55:23 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 12:21:48 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:53:05 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
    On 24/07/2023 3:17 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:23:07 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:

    Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports
    star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I
    say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in
    this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free
    ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )

    Why don't you ask Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc? They're millionaires many times over. Social status in life has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not somebody is abusive. Seriously, it's an ignorant remark. Come on, now!

    Zverev is a small fish in a very large scummy pond.
    Those are old rich guys who got away with a lot of crap in pre-woke times. Zverev literally has nothing to gain and everything to lose, sorry but nobody is that stupid. He could just easily walk away and
    live a fantastic life hooking up with an endless supply of models (like Leo Di Caprio has perfected) rather than bashing his partners.

    I may be generalizing but most of the women these guys hang out with are super hot but have nothing else going for them, prob would have to work at burger king otherwise, try onlyfans etc. You bet they will do whatever it takes to get at some of that hot easy moolah - minimal effort for lots of gain. I'm annoyed I even have to discuss this silly stuff on rst, all will be thrown out of court as baseless nonsense, huge yawn.

    You're rehashing an ancient fallacy used to defend rich guys who commit such offenses-: why would he ever bother himself with a "woman like this" when he has so many options? And why would a guy with so much to lose take such a risk? There are lots
    of reasons. Poor impulse control, thrill of the risk, indulging violent fantasies against those who are easy to discredit & intimidate since they lack the resources to fight back physically or legally, etc. As for the idea about anyone with a shred of
    intelligence taking such a risk, look at Bill Clinton as a case in point--graduate of Yale Law School and Rhodes scholar who won the U.S. presidency and then had an intern give him blowjobs in the Oval Office while under investigation and with political
    enemies waiting to pounce on any misstep. Pretty damn reckless and stupid, but he did it anyway because he felt like it.

    He has it completely wrong. It's clearly an uneducated opinion. It's a waste of time for me to try and argue with a person who has it so completely backwards.
    So it's a bogus rationale. Having said that, the problem I have with Court 1's viewpoint is that she's ready to convict, sentence, and condemn someone even before investigation, because when a woman accuses a man, he must be guilty. It's not even
    possible she's malicious or has ulterior motives. Therefore, the man's livelihood and life as he knows it need to be destroyed forever without further ado. The alleged victim doesn't even need to file a formal complaint with the police. She can tell a
    tabloid reporter or post it online, and her accusations remain just as rock-solid as if they had been thoroughly investigated and proven factual. If any women speak up in his defense, they must have been paid off because he's rich. If no other women come
    forward, they are just biding their time. If the man has ever shown signs of a temper or jealously in any other context, it's as good as evidence he beats up women because he "fits the profile," etc.

    I'm not ready to convict every man. I take it case by case. However, what I do know specifically from working in the past in this legal area, most women who do file lawsuits against men in these abuse cases are not lying. The stats are are there. I've
    said it over and over again on this newsgroup but facts don't matter on here I guess.

    Sure Amber Heard is an exception to the rule and I've admitted that many times but Depp is no innocent victim either. He's an abusive creep.

    Also, you're claiming I think all men are guilty right off the bat but aren't many men on this newsgroup doing the same in the opposite direction? Aren't they automatically assuming every woman is out to get these public and famous men?

    Yes, some guys here are doing that by saying these accusers all must be greedy, lying star-fuckers whose claims should be dismissed without even bothering to investigate the facts. I disagree with that just as strongly.

    In any case, we're going in circles. It's better to discuss tennis as this is a tennis ng. But even discussing tennis on social media is fraught with challenges as there are so many fanatics who can't be reasoned with. It's always all or nothing, i.e.
    my favorite player is the greatest in every single way and goalposts must be moved to further that narrative at any cost, my favorite player couldn't possibly dope but every one of his/her rivals dopes without a shadow of a doubt, etc. etc. The tennis
    fanatic world is such a deeply flawed population IMO.

    To be fair, you brought up the Depp case first. ;) I do think it's better to discuss tennis, though side discussions on things like movies and books can be fun too. When too many threads involve politics and other severely polarizing social issues, it
    gets tiresome, devolving into the same sets of posters shooting spitballs at each other day after day without meaningful discourse. This pattern has become increasingly common on RST the past few years between slam tournaments.

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to gap...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 10:38:38 2023
    On 7/25/23 10:07 AM, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 1:02:27 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
    On 7/25/23 9:53 AM, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:46:49 PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:

    If the location of my birth determines quality to you, then I am much >>>>> superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So
    clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada.

    But people that resort to their place of birth or any similar traits >>>>> when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are >>>>> the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you >>>>> tolerate it, it will be hard, and you will agree with me.
    You're a native English speaker? Seriously? No kidding, most 6 month
    ESL students I've met sound like Henry Higgins next to you.
    His writings do not sound idiomatic, more like a literal translation of his mother tongue, Bengali? Most Indians here sound like that, accents from all across South Asia,?
    Who gives a shit?

    --
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> "When I was back there in seminary school, there was a person there who put forth the proposition that you can petition the Lord with prayer...

    "Petition the lord with prayer...

    "Petition the lord with prayer...

    "YOU CANNOT PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER!"

    --Sawfish
    Break from sukking whisp’s cock boy. Or it skrip or ice today? Post 100 more garbage posts?

    ...says gypes, seated firmly on his Steely Dan III

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    Andy, from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal contracts... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to gap...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 13:32:01 2023
    "gap...@gmail.com" <gapp111@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 1:02:27PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:> On 7/25/23 9:53 AM, gap...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:46:49PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote: > >> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes: > >> > >>> If the location of
    my birth determines quality to you, then I am much > >>> superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So > >>> clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada. > >>> > >>> But people that resort to their place of birth or any
    similar traits > >>> when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are > >>> the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you > >>> tolerate it, it will be hard, and you will agree with me. > >> You're a native
    English speaker? Seriously? No kidding, most 6 month > >> ESL students I've met sound like Henry Higgins next to you. > > His writings do not sound idiomatic, more like a literal translation of his mother tongue, Bengali? Most Indians here sound like
    that, accents from all across South Asia,?> Who gives a shit? > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "When I was back there in seminary school, there was a person there who put forth the proposition that
    you can petition the Lord with prayer... > > "Petition the lord with prayer... > > "Petition the lord with prayer... > > "YOU CANNOT PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER!" > > --SawfishBreak from sukking whisps cock boy. Or it skrip or ice today? Post 100 more
    garbage posts?

    Guppy, how many posts and words you wrote all these years? As I remember, all your messages won't add to more than 50 lines.

    We would like to hear your opinion about all topics, instead of your two sarcastic words when you decide to contribute.
    --




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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to Gracchus on Tue Jul 25 10:48:49 2023
    On 7/25/23 10:34 AM, Gracchus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:55:23 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 12:21:48 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:53:05 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
    On 24/07/2023 3:17 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:23:07 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote: >>>>>> Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports >>>>>> star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I >>>>>> say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in >>>>>> this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free >>>>>> ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : ) >>>>> Why don't you ask Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc? They're millionaires many times over. Social status in life has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not somebody is abusive. Seriously, it's an ignorant remark. Come on, now!

    Zverev is a small fish in a very large scummy pond.
    Those are old rich guys who got away with a lot of crap in pre-woke
    times. Zverev literally has nothing to gain and everything to lose,
    sorry but nobody is that stupid. He could just easily walk away and
    live a fantastic life hooking up with an endless supply of models (like >>>> Leo Di Caprio has perfected) rather than bashing his partners.

    I may be generalizing but most of the women these guys hang out with are >>>> super hot but have nothing else going for them, prob would have to work >>>> at burger king otherwise, try onlyfans etc. You bet they will do
    whatever it takes to get at some of that hot easy moolah - minimal
    effort for lots of gain. I'm annoyed I even have to discuss this silly >>>> stuff on rst, all will be thrown out of court as baseless nonsense, huge >>>> yawn.
    You're rehashing an ancient fallacy used to defend rich guys who commit such offenses-: why would he ever bother himself with a "woman like this" when he has so many options? And why would a guy with so much to lose take such a risk? There are lots
    of reasons. Poor impulse control, thrill of the risk, indulging violent fantasies against those who are easy to discredit & intimidate since they lack the resources to fight back physically or legally, etc. As for the idea about anyone with a shred of
    intelligence taking such a risk, look at Bill Clinton as a case in point--graduate of Yale Law School and Rhodes scholar who won the U.S. presidency and then had an intern give him blowjobs in the Oval Office while under investigation and with political
    enemies waiting to pounce on any misstep. Pretty damn reckless and stupid, but he did it anyway because he felt like it.
    He has it completely wrong. It's clearly an uneducated opinion. It's a waste of time for me to try and argue with a person who has it so completely backwards.
    So it's a bogus rationale. Having said that, the problem I have with Court 1's viewpoint is that she's ready to convict, sentence, and condemn someone even before investigation, because when a woman accuses a man, he must be guilty. It's not even
    possible she's malicious or has ulterior motives. Therefore, the man's livelihood and life as he knows it need to be destroyed forever without further ado. The alleged victim doesn't even need to file a formal complaint with the police. She can tell a
    tabloid reporter or post it online, and her accusations remain just as rock-solid as if they had been thoroughly investigated and proven factual. If any women speak up in his defense, they must have been paid off because he's rich. If no other women come
    forward, they are just biding their time. If the man has ever shown signs of a temper or jealously in any other context, it's as good as evidence he beats up women because he "fits the profile," etc.
    I'm not ready to convict every man. I take it case by case. However, what I do know specifically from working in the past in this legal area, most women who do file lawsuits against men in these abuse cases are not lying. The stats are are there. I've
    said it over and over again on this newsgroup but facts don't matter on here I guess.
    Sure Amber Heard is an exception to the rule and I've admitted that many times but Depp is no innocent victim either. He's an abusive creep.
    Also, you're claiming I think all men are guilty right off the bat but aren't many men on this newsgroup doing the same in the opposite direction? Aren't they automatically assuming every woman is out to get these public and famous men?
    Yes, some guys here are doing that by saying these accusers all must be greedy, lying star-fuckers whose claims should be dismissed without even bothering to investigate the facts. I disagree with that just as strongly.

    In any case, we're going in circles. It's better to discuss tennis as this is a tennis ng. But even discussing tennis on social media is fraught with challenges as there are so many fanatics who can't be reasoned with. It's always all or nothing, i.e.
    my favorite player is the greatest in every single way and goalposts must be moved to further that narrative at any cost, my favorite player couldn't possibly dope but every one of his/her rivals dopes without a shadow of a doubt, etc. etc. The tennis
    fanatic world is such a deeply flawed population IMO.
    To be fair, you brought up the Depp case first. ;) I do think it's better to discuss tennis, though side discussions on things like movies and books can be fun too. When too many threads involve politics and other severely polarizing social issues, it
    gets tiresome, devolving into the same sets of posters shooting spitballs at each other day after day without meaningful discourse. This pattern has become increasingly common on RST the past few years between slam tournaments.


    "...This pattern has become increasingly common on RST the past few
    years between slam tournaments."

    Pretty much sums up 2023 in the USA, huh? :^(



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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Tue Jul 25 10:52:22 2023
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
    On 7/25/23 10:07 AM, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 1:02:27 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
    On 7/25/23 9:53 AM, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:46:49 PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:

    If the location of my birth determines quality to you, then I am much >>>>> superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So >>>>> clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada.

    But people that resort to their place of birth or any similar traits >>>>> when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are >>>>> the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you >>>>> tolerate it, it will be hard, and you will agree with me.
    You're a native English speaker? Seriously? No kidding, most 6 month >>>> ESL students I've met sound like Henry Higgins next to you.
    His writings do not sound idiomatic, more like a literal translation of his mother tongue, Bengali? Most Indians here sound like that, accents from all across South Asia,?
    Who gives a shit?

    --
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "When I was back there in seminary school, there was a person there who put forth the proposition that you can petition the Lord with prayer...

    "Petition the lord with prayer...

    "Petition the lord with prayer...

    "YOU CANNOT PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER!"

    --Sawfish
    Break from sukking whisp’s cock boy. Or it skrip or ice today? Post 100 more garbage posts?
    ...says gypes, seated firmly on his Steely Dan III

    --
    --Sawfish ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The big print gives it to you; the small print takes it away."

    Andy, from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal contracts... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Oops,sorry fishman, my bad!! Keep on posting!

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to olympia0000@yahoo.com on Tue Jul 25 13:50:17 2023
    Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 12:21:48PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:53:05AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote: > > On 24/07/2023 3:17 pm, Court_1 wrote: > > > On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:23:07AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote: > > >> On 23/07/
    2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote: > > >>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote: > > > > > >> Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports > > >> star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything
    to lose? I > > >> say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker > > >> slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in > > >> this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free > > >> ride
    from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : ) > > > > > > Why don't you ask Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc? They're millionaires many times over. Social status in life has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not somebody is
    abusive. Seriously, it's an ignorant remark. Come on, now! > > > > > > Zverev is a small fish in a very large scummy pond. > > Those are old rich guys who got away with a lot of crap in pre-woke > > times. Zverev literally has nothing to gain and
    everything to lose, > > sorry but nobody is that stupid. He could just easily walk away and > > live a fantastic life hooking up with an endless supply of models (like > > Leo Di Caprio has perfected) rather than bashing his partners. > > > > I may be
    generalizing but most of the women these guys hang out with are > > super hot but have nothing else going for them, prob would have to work > > at burger king otherwise, try onlyfans etc. You bet they will do > > whatever it takes to get at some of that
    hot easy moolah - minimal > > effort for lots of gain. I'm annoyed I even have to discuss this silly > > stuff on rst, all will be thrown out of court as baseless nonsense, huge > > yawn.> You're rehashing an ancient fallacy used to defend rich guys who
    commit such offenses-: why would he ever bother himself with a "woman like this" when he has so many options? And why would a guy with so much to lose take such a risk? There are lots of reasons. Poor impulse control, thrill of the risk, indulging
    violent fantasies against those who are easy to discredit & intimidate since they lack the resources to fight back physically or legally, etc. As for the idea about anyone with a shred of intelligence taking such a risk, look at Bill Clinton as a case in
    point--graduate of Yale Law School and Rhodes scholar who won the U.S. presidency and then had an intern give him blowjobs in the Oval Office while under investigation and with political enemies waiting to pounce on any misstep. Pretty damn reckless and
    stupid, but he did it anyway because he felt like it. He has it completely wrong. It's clearly an uneducated opinion. It's a waste of time for me to try and argue with a person who has it so completely backwards. > So it's a bogus rationale. Having said
    that, the problem I have with Court 1's viewpoint is that she's ready to convict, sentence, and condemn someone even before investigation, because when a woman accuses a man, he must be guilty. It's not even possible she's malicious or has ulterior
    motives. Therefore, the man's livelihood and life as he knows it need to be destroyed forever without further ado. The alleged victim doesn't even need to file a formal complaint with the police. She can tell a tabloid reporter or post it online, and her
    accusations remain just as rock-solid as if they had been thoroughly investigated and proven factual. If any women speak up in his defense, they must have been paid off because he's rich. If no other women come forward, they are just biding their time.
    If the man has ever shown signs of a temper or jealously in any other context, it's as good as evidence he beats up women because he "fits the profile," etc.I'm not ready to convict every man. I take it case by case. However, what I do know specifically
    from working in the past in this legal area, most women who do file lawsuits against men in these abuse cases are not lying. The stats are are there. I've said it over and over again on this newsgroup but facts don't matter on here I guess.Sure Amber
    Heard is an exception to the rule and I've admitted that many times but Depp is no innocent victim either. He's an abusive creep.Also, you're claiming I think all men are guilty right off the bat but aren't many men on this newsgroup doing the same in
    the opposite direction? Aren't they automatically assuming every woman is out to get these public and famous men?In any case, we're going in circles. It's better to discuss tennis as this is a tennis ng. But even discussing tennis on social media is
    fraught with challenges as there are so many fanatics who can't be reasoned with. It's always all or nothing, i.e. my favorite player is the greatest in every single way and goalposts must be moved to further that narrative at any cost, my favorite
    player couldn't possibly dope but every one of his/her rivals dopes without a shadow of a doubt, etc. etc. The tennis fanatic world is such a deeply flawed population IMO.

    Are you able to comprehend your own words when you say "discussing tennis on social media"?

    Words used: discussion + social + media

    Please review these words, their meanings, your behavior reacting to what happens in them.


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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to gap...@gmail.com on Tue Jul 25 11:51:47 2023
    On 7/25/23 10:52 AM, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 1:38:41 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
    On 7/25/23 10:07 AM, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 1:02:27 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
    On 7/25/23 9:53 AM, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:46:49 PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:

    If the location of my birth determines quality to you, then I am much >>>>>>> superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So >>>>>>> clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada.

    But people that resort to their place of birth or any similar traits >>>>>>> when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are >>>>>>> the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you >>>>>>> tolerate it, it will be hard, and you will agree with me.
    You're a native English speaker? Seriously? No kidding, most 6 month >>>>>> ESL students I've met sound like Henry Higgins next to you.
    His writings do not sound idiomatic, more like a literal translation of his mother tongue, Bengali? Most Indians here sound like that, accents from all across South Asia,?
    Who gives a shit?

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    "Petition the lord with prayer...

    "Petition the lord with prayer...

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    --Sawfish
    Break from sukking whisp’s cock boy. Or it skrip or ice today? Post 100 more garbage posts?
    ...says gypes, seated firmly on his Steely Dan III

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    Oops,sorry fishman, my bad!! Keep on posting!

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to Gracchus on Tue Jul 25 19:58:46 2023
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 1:34:32 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:55:23 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:

    Also, you're claiming I think all men are guilty right off the bat but aren't many men on this newsgroup doing the same in the opposite direction? Aren't they automatically assuming every woman is out to get these public and famous men?

    Yes, some guys here are doing that by saying these accusers all must be greedy, lying star-fuckers whose claims should be dismissed without even bothering to investigate the facts. I disagree with that just as strongly.

    Yes! So it's me against all of these men with their antiquated views!

    In any case, we're going in circles. It's better to discuss tennis as this is a tennis ng. But even discussing tennis on social media is fraught with challenges as there are so many fanatics who can't be reasoned with. It's always all or nothing, i.e.
    my favorite player is the greatest in every single way and goalposts must be moved to further that narrative at any cost, my favorite player couldn't possibly dope but every one of his/her rivals dopes without a shadow of a doubt, etc. etc. The tennis
    fanatic world is such a deeply flawed population IMO.

    To be fair, you brought up the Depp case first. ;)

    I was only trying to be cheeky by bringing up Depp again! I should have known better, lol.


    I do think it's better to discuss tennis,

    Absolutely! However, even on the tennis subject, there are some strange point of views on here. You have fanatics(I can't take them seriously, they're weirdos to me), you have Sawfish writing PhD dissertations non-stop which attempt to say a lot but say
    little most of the time, etc. Then there's cretin *shitpiss whose posts I scroll right past. Then, there's the baboon, Iceberg! It's quite the crew here these days. I can't stand many of Whisper's views outside of tennis especially on the subject of
    gender issues but at least on the topic of tennis, he's fairly cogent and sensible most of the time. Yes, he hates Federer but I understand some of his criticisms of Federer.

    though side discussions on things like movies and books can be fun too.

    Yes, that's ok most of the time although we did have some interesting discussions that deteriorated into negative directions, i.e. TT and his love for that stupid movie, The Eyes of Laura Mars and I would deride him for it! :)

    When too many threads involve politics and other severely polarizing social issues, it gets tiresome, devolving into the same sets of posters shooting spitballs at each other day after day without meaningful discourse. This pattern has become
    increasingly common on RST the past few years between slam tournaments.

    I agree and it's extremely monotonous. It's why I've taken very long breaks. Also, I don't watch a lot of tennis. Federer has retired. Nadal is on yet another one of his "injury" leaves and perhaps permanently this time, and I'm really not into many of
    these younger gen players. In addition, I've got a lot going on with work, family. Plus, I've taken up golf!

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Tue Jul 25 20:04:23 2023
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:26:35 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
    On 7/25/23 8:40 AM, Court_1 wrote:

    You're fun to exchange with, have a different POV, but sometimes in bantering about you REALLY cross the line, you know. In my case it's my family; not me, not my deplorable traits, but my family, of whom you
    know very little, so you seem to like to fall back to stereotypes.

    Are you really the person who should be lecturing others on crossing the line? Really? 🙄

    Family? I'm not criticizing your family, I'm criticizing you and perhaps some of the choices you've made with respect to women because of your charming character! If you've posted it on here, it's fair game!


    This is not something a person like yourself should invite, this
    negative stereotyping. Your own group identity is not well liked and is
    even reviled by many. Mistrusted, self-absorbed, complaining,
    manipulative, arrogant.

    I'm not sure which identity you're referring to.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Tue Jul 25 20:10:08 2023
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:43:29 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:

    Let me start with this: I think you are a positive addition to 90% of
    the discussions here. That puts your contributive value in the upper quartile of RST.

    But in other ten percent, it's not because your ideas are bad or wrong (people can have opinions of all kinds, that's natural) but at a certain point you go to personal insults. You sometimes are angered or surprised that people will not take you at your word, which is often a rhetorical polemic to advance your position in a disagreement. This too, is fine.

    But the danger in this lies when you ask/expect people to take your word without objective support. Remember: you may have only three posts back stated something as absolute fact when it obviously is neither obvious
    nor absolute. To then say, essentially "Trust me on this one", few will
    do that. And because few do, it angers you, apparently, and you go
    personal. This leads to a figurative WWIII.

    That's very hard to take and continue to have respect for the other 90%
    of your contributions, which are considerable.

    You're telling me I go to personal insults which I do(in fairness to me, in retaliation) but are you not reading your own posts? You go to personal insults A LOT with many posters! I can't take you seriously!

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Wed Jul 26 04:51:41 2023
    On Tuesday, 25 July 2023 at 17:46:49 UTC+1, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:


    If the location of my birth determines quality to you, then I am much superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So
    clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada.

    But people that resort to their place of birth or any similar traits
    when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are
    the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you tolerate it, it will be hard, and you will agree with me.
    You're a native English speaker? Seriously? No kidding, most 6 month
    ESL students I've met sound like Henry Higgins next to you.

    I 'ate 'enry 'iggins!!

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Jul 26 04:54:11 2023
    On Tuesday, 25 July 2023 at 18:32:05 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    "gap...@gmail.com" <gap...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 1:02:27 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:> On 7/25/23 9:53 AM, gap...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:46:49 PM UTC-4, jdeluise wrote: > >> PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes: > >> > >>> If the location
    of my birth determines quality to you, then I am much > >>> superior than you because I am born and raised and work in usa. So > >>> clearly you are garbage compared to me being from Canada. > >>> > >>> But people that resort to their place of birth or
    any similar traits > >>> when they get squeezed in a discussion are garbage for me, and you are > >>> the bottom of this garbage, believe me, just look in the mirror if you > >>> tolerate it, it will be hard, and you will agree with me. > >> You're a
    native English speaker? Seriously? No kidding, most 6 month > >> ESL students I've met sound like Henry Higgins next to you. > > His writings do not sound idiomatic, more like a literal translation of his mother tongue, Bengali? Most Indians here sound
    like that, accents from all across South Asia,?> Who gives a shit? > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "When I was back there in seminary school, there was a person there who put forth the proposition
    that you can petition the Lord with prayer... > > "Petition the lord with prayer... > > "Petition the lord with prayer... > > "YOU CANNOT PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER!" > > --SawfishBreak from sukking whisp’s cock boy. Or it skrip or ice today? Post
    100 more garbage posts?

    Guppy, how many posts and words you wrote all these years? As I remember, all your messages won't add to more than 50 lines.

    We would like to hear your opinion about all topics, instead of your two sarcastic words when you decide to contribute.

    he's only got a short time for tennis posts as he's always too busy writing stuff for the Democrat Party who pays him!

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 26 05:12:15 2023
    On Wednesday, 26 July 2023 at 04:10:10 UTC+1, Court_1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:43:29 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:

    Let me start with this: I think you are a positive addition to 90% of
    the discussions here. That puts your contributive value in the upper quartile of RST.

    But in other ten percent, it's not because your ideas are bad or wrong (people can have opinions of all kinds, that's natural) but at a certain point you go to personal insults. You sometimes are angered or surprised that people will not take you at your word, which is often a rhetorical polemic to advance your position in a disagreement. This too, is fine.

    But the danger in this lies when you ask/expect people to take your word without objective support. Remember: you may have only three posts back stated something as absolute fact when it obviously is neither obvious
    nor absolute. To then say, essentially "Trust me on this one", few will
    do that. And because few do, it angers you, apparently, and you go personal. This leads to a figurative WWIII.

    That's very hard to take and continue to have respect for the other 90%
    of your contributions, which are considerable.
    You're telling me I go to personal insults which I do(in fairness to me, in retaliation) but are you not reading your own posts? You go to personal insults A LOT with many posters! I can't take you seriously!

    yes agree and more cos your response to sawfish for posting "Oh. I used to like Bud Collins." about how he was a self-inflated curmudgeon who keeps his wife locked in a cellar, was very funny! :D

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Gracchus on Wed Jul 26 04:55:32 2023
    On Tuesday, 25 July 2023 at 18:34:32 UTC+1, Gracchus wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:55:23 AM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 12:21:48 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
    On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:53:05 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
    On 24/07/2023 3:17 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:23:07 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:

    Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports
    star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I
    say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in
    this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free
    ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )

    Why don't you ask Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc? They're millionaires many times over. Social status in life has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not somebody is abusive. Seriously, it's an ignorant remark. Come on, now!

    Zverev is a small fish in a very large scummy pond.
    Those are old rich guys who got away with a lot of crap in pre-woke times. Zverev literally has nothing to gain and everything to lose, sorry but nobody is that stupid. He could just easily walk away and live a fantastic life hooking up with an endless supply of models (like
    Leo Di Caprio has perfected) rather than bashing his partners.

    I may be generalizing but most of the women these guys hang out with are
    super hot but have nothing else going for them, prob would have to work
    at burger king otherwise, try onlyfans etc. You bet they will do whatever it takes to get at some of that hot easy moolah - minimal effort for lots of gain. I'm annoyed I even have to discuss this silly stuff on rst, all will be thrown out of court as baseless nonsense, huge
    yawn.

    You're rehashing an ancient fallacy used to defend rich guys who commit such offenses-: why would he ever bother himself with a "woman like this" when he has so many options? And why would a guy with so much to lose take such a risk? There are lots
    of reasons. Poor impulse control, thrill of the risk, indulging violent fantasies against those who are easy to discredit & intimidate since they lack the resources to fight back physically or legally, etc. As for the idea about anyone with a shred of
    intelligence taking such a risk, look at Bill Clinton as a case in point--graduate of Yale Law School and Rhodes scholar who won the U.S. presidency and then had an intern give him blowjobs in the Oval Office while under investigation and with political
    enemies waiting to pounce on any misstep. Pretty damn reckless and stupid, but he did it anyway because he felt like it.

    He has it completely wrong. It's clearly an uneducated opinion. It's a waste of time for me to try and argue with a person who has it so completely backwards.
    So it's a bogus rationale. Having said that, the problem I have with Court 1's viewpoint is that she's ready to convict, sentence, and condemn someone even before investigation, because when a woman accuses a man, he must be guilty. It's not even
    possible she's malicious or has ulterior motives. Therefore, the man's livelihood and life as he knows it need to be destroyed forever without further ado. The alleged victim doesn't even need to file a formal complaint with the police. She can tell a
    tabloid reporter or post it online, and her accusations remain just as rock-solid as if they had been thoroughly investigated and proven factual. If any women speak up in his defense, they must have been paid off because he's rich. If no other women come
    forward, they are just biding their time. If the man has ever shown signs of a temper or jealously in any other context, it's as good as evidence he beats up women because he "fits the profile," etc.

    I'm not ready to convict every man. I take it case by case. However, what I do know specifically from working in the past in this legal area, most women who do file lawsuits against men in these abuse cases are not lying. The stats are are there. I'
    ve said it over and over again on this newsgroup but facts don't matter on here I guess.

    Sure Amber Heard is an exception to the rule and I've admitted that many times but Depp is no innocent victim either. He's an abusive creep.

    Also, you're claiming I think all men are guilty right off the bat but aren't many men on this newsgroup doing the same in the opposite direction? Aren't they automatically assuming every woman is out to get these public and famous men?
    Yes, some guys here are doing that by saying these accusers all must be greedy, lying star-fuckers whose claims should be dismissed without even bothering to investigate the facts. I disagree with that just as strongly.
    In any case, we're going in circles. It's better to discuss tennis as this is a tennis ng. But even discussing tennis on social media is fraught with challenges as there are so many fanatics who can't be reasoned with. It's always all or nothing, i.e.
    my favorite player is the greatest in every single way and goalposts must be moved to further that narrative at any cost, my favorite player couldn't possibly dope but every one of his/her rivals dopes without a shadow of a doubt, etc. etc. The tennis
    fanatic world is such a deeply flawed population IMO.
    To be fair, you brought up the Depp case first. ;) I do think it's better to discuss tennis, though side discussions on things like movies and books can be fun too. When too many threads involve politics and other severely polarizing social issues, it
    gets tiresome, devolving into the same sets of posters shooting spitballs at each other day after day without meaningful discourse. This pattern has become increasingly common on RST the past few years between slam tournaments.

    hey Gracchus, ask Courto what she thinks of Fed doping? LOL

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Wed Jul 26 05:58:44 2023
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:12:18 AM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Wednesday, 26 July 2023 at 04:10:10 UTC+1, Court_1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:43:29 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:

    Let me start with this: I think you are a positive addition to 90% of the discussions here. That puts your contributive value in the upper quartile of RST.

    But in other ten percent, it's not because your ideas are bad or wrong (people can have opinions of all kinds, that's natural) but at a certain point you go to personal insults. You sometimes are angered or surprised that people will not take you at your word, which is often a rhetorical polemic to advance your position in a disagreement. This too, is fine.

    But the danger in this lies when you ask/expect people to take your word without objective support. Remember: you may have only three posts back stated something as absolute fact when it obviously is neither obvious nor absolute. To then say, essentially "Trust me on this one", few will do that. And because few do, it angers you, apparently, and you go personal. This leads to a figurative WWIII.

    That's very hard to take and continue to have respect for the other 90% of your contributions, which are considerable.
    You're telling me I go to personal insults which I do(in fairness to me, in retaliation) but are you not reading your own posts? You go to personal insults A LOT with many posters! I can't take you seriously!
    yes agree and more cos your response to sawfish for posting "Oh. I used to like Bud Collins." about how he was a self-inflated curmudgeon who keeps his wife locked in a cellar, was very funny! :D

    :) This one is hilarious :)

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Wed Jul 26 06:50:06 2023
    On 7/26/23 5:12 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Wednesday, 26 July 2023 at 04:10:10 UTC+1, Court_1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:43:29 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:

    Let me start with this: I think you are a positive addition to 90% of
    the discussions here. That puts your contributive value in the upper
    quartile of RST.

    But in other ten percent, it's not because your ideas are bad or wrong
    (people can have opinions of all kinds, that's natural) but at a certain >>> point you go to personal insults. You sometimes are angered or surprised >>> that people will not take you at your word, which is often a rhetorical
    polemic to advance your position in a disagreement. This too, is fine.

    But the danger in this lies when you ask/expect people to take your word >>> without objective support. Remember: you may have only three posts back
    stated something as absolute fact when it obviously is neither obvious
    nor absolute. To then say, essentially "Trust me on this one", few will
    do that. And because few do, it angers you, apparently, and you go
    personal. This leads to a figurative WWIII.

    That's very hard to take and continue to have respect for the other 90%
    of your contributions, which are considerable.
    You're telling me I go to personal insults which I do(in fairness to me, in retaliation) but are you not reading your own posts? You go to personal insults A LOT with many posters! I can't take you seriously!
    yes agree and more cos your response to sawfish for posting "Oh. I used to like Bud Collins." about how he was a self-inflated curmudgeon who keeps his wife locked in a cellar, was very funny! :D

    The toolshed.

    Not the cellar. The toolshed.

    Locking someone in a cellar is brutish, animalistic.

    *That's* why I was pissed...

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    --Sawfish

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to olympia0000@yahoo.com on Tue Aug 1 12:30:18 2023
    Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*

    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.

    I was there in Hamburg back in 2014 when Sasha Zverev made
    his breakthrough on the ATP Tour. But for some reason, I
    have never really liked this guy.

    I am not saying that he is guilty, but my gut feeling is
    that there is something creepy about Sasha.

    br,
    KK

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Tue Aug 1 07:13:56 2023
    On 8/1/23 5:30 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*

    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.
    I was there in Hamburg back in 2014 when Sasha Zverev made
    his breakthrough on the ATP Tour. But for some reason, I
    have never really liked this guy.

    I am not saying that he is guilty, but my gut feeling is
    that there is something creepy about Sasha.

    br,
    KK

    I also get that impression--something is weak and rotten in him.

    I have no knowledge of any abuse charges. I'm not commenting on the
    likelihood of him being guilty/not guilty.

    Really good player when he's on.

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    --Boxing trainer Pappy Gault, on George Foreman ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Tue Aug 1 08:59:50 2023
    On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 15:14:00 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 8/1/23 5:30 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*

    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.
    I was there in Hamburg back in 2014 when Sasha Zverev made
    his breakthrough on the ATP Tour. But for some reason, I
    have never really liked this guy.

    I am not saying that he is guilty, but my gut feeling is
    that there is something creepy about Sasha.

    br,
    KK
    I also get that impression--something is weak and rotten in him.

    I have no knowledge of any abuse charges. I'm not commenting on the likelihood of him being guilty/not guilty.

    Really good player when he's on.

    you guys are all amazingly psychic! LOL

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to Whisper on Tue Aug 1 15:13:00 2023
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 12:23:07 PM UTC+3, Whisper wrote:
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 9:06 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote: >>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*


    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.


    The new woman is the mother of their child.

    So?


    Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.

    Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.

    The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be
    many more!

    The guy is a POS.

    Sure, but these women are no better come on.

    ???? Two women who have similar stories about Zverev of all people? Obviously, we don't do the same kind of math.
    Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I
    say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in
    this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free
    ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )

    Zverev might be guilty or not ... but ...

    In Finland some years ago there was a big buzz about nationally spotlight-famous business man being accused of abuse and even rape.

    ....too bad his mansion had "just too much video-cameras" to make gold-digger's claim totally obsolete.

    .mikko

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Tue Aug 1 15:41:37 2023
    On 8/1/23 3:13 PM, MBDunc wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 12:23:07 PM UTC+3, Whisper wrote:
    On 23/07/2023 2:14 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:07 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 22/07/2023 9:06 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote: >>>>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:44:58 AM UTC+3, Court_1 wrote:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*


    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.

    The new woman is the mother of their child.
    So?


    Let's see when exactly this assault took place and if charges get filed, otherwise it's another extortion.
    Oh yes, that's it, another extortion. Sure Bengali! What else would I expect from you as you're from a place where daily domestic abuse is the norm.

    The first one was no extortion. Her story lined up with what she said. Another woman comes out and says the guy is an abuser and for you that's not good enough either. How many more women have to come forward? And let me be clear, there will be
    many more!

    The guy is a POS.
    Sure, but these women are no better come on.
    ???? Two women who have similar stories about Zverev of all people? Obviously, we don't do the same kind of math.
    Think about it logically - would a multi millionaire world famous sports
    star take these kind of risks with zero gain and everything to lose? I
    say nope, not in this case. In other cases, eg crackhead rocker
    slapping gf around, I may take a different view, but nothing to see in
    this case I'm afraid. Plenty of young entitled women looking for a free
    ride from a rich guy, some on court1 you should know better lol : )
    Zverev might be guilty or not ... but ...

    In Finland some years ago there was a big buzz about nationally spotlight-famous business man being accused of abuse and even rape.

    ....too bad his mansion had "just too much video-cameras" to make gold-digger's claim totally obsolete.

    .mikko

    I have just two words to say about this...

    Tawana Brawley

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    as a matter of fact, there is no reason whatever to believe that, if all laws were abolished tomorrow, such swine would survive the day."

    --H. L. Mencken ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 16:32:45 2023
    Court_1 kirjoitti 22.7.2023 klo 7.44:
    I guess she must be lying too, huh? *rolls eyes*


    https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-needs-actually-investigated-martina-navratilova-urges-prompt-action-light-latest-assault-allegations-alexander-zverev

    What a cretin this guy is.


    Yeah, but it's no business for ATP. It's a business for courts.
    Definitely not Navratilova's business.

    The former girlfriend is quite a looker...

    https://tennistonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Sascha-Zverev-and-girfriend-Brenda-Patea.jpg

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