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  • Maybe Roger gets to keep his Wimbledon record for a few more years....

    From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 17 03:58:06 2023
    Until Carlos breaks it ; )

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  • From stephenj@21:1/5 to Whisper on Sun Jul 16 15:46:44 2023
    On 7/16/2023 12:58 PM, Whisper wrote:


    Until Carlos breaks it ; )

    Crap, didn't see you had posted this until after I hit the send button
    on mine.

    CA certainly did save Fed today, but these mountains are hard to climb.
    Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to stephenj on Sun Jul 16 17:14:44 2023
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 12:58 PM, Whisper wrote:


    Until Carlos breaks it ; )
    Crap, didn't see you had posted this until after I hit the send button
    on mine.

    CA certainly did save Fed today, but these mountains are hard to climb.
    Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

    Exactly. LOL at the people claiming pizza-face Alcaraz will win 30 slams and walk on water.

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  • From Gracchus@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 16 18:17:57 2023
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:14:46 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 12:58 PM, Whisper wrote:


    Until Carlos breaks it ; )
    Crap, didn't see you had posted this until after I hit the send button
    on mine.

    CA certainly did save Fed today, but these mountains are hard to climb. Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

    Exactly. LOL at the people claiming pizza-face Alcaraz will win 30 slams and walk on water.

    I believe Alcarez has the talent and fortitude to win double-digit slams for sure, especially if his toughest competition turns out to be guys like Sinner, Rune, and Ruud. He already has two at 20 and his game is still a work in progress. I'll bet his
    complexion will clear up in time too.

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  • From No Buyout@21:1/5 to stephenj on Sun Jul 16 18:25:56 2023
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

    Because he had to deal with Federer and Nadal. Who do you think will win as many Slams as Alcaraz over the next decade?

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to Gracchus on Sun Jul 16 20:43:14 2023
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:17:59 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:14:46 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 12:58 PM, Whisper wrote:


    Until Carlos breaks it ; )
    Crap, didn't see you had posted this until after I hit the send button on mine.

    CA certainly did save Fed today, but these mountains are hard to climb. Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and that might not be settled yet either.

    Exactly. LOL at the people claiming pizza-face Alcaraz will win 30 slams and walk on water.


    I believe Alcarez has the talent and fortitude to win double-digit slams for sure,

    Perhaps but 25-30 slams? I think that's wishful thinking. But then again, I never thought Nadal and especially Djokovic would pass Federer in the slam race so what do I know?

    especially if his toughest competition turns out to be guys like Sinner, Rune, and Ruud.

    Sinner is a lesser Berdych IMO. I don't know how anybody can be his fan. He's the male Pliskova but probably worse. Curiously though, he has a good h2h vs Alkie. Match-ups matter. Ruud is as dull as dishwater. An unwatchable entity for me. Rune is
    nauseating as a human being it seems. Hasn't there been some drama in all of his matches because of his behavior?

    Alkie will need a rival soon otherwise it will become tedious. If only Tsitsipas could improve his glaring weaknesses. For me, he's one of the only ones I'm interested in watching these days.

    He already has two at 20 and his game is still a work in progress.

    Yes.

    I'll bet his complexion will clear up in time too.

    Forgive me but 🤮.

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  • From stephenj@21:1/5 to No Buyout on Mon Jul 17 11:45:19 2023
    On 7/16/2023 8:25 PM, No Buyout wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

    Because he had to deal with Federer and Nadal. Who do you think will win as many Slams as Alcaraz over > the next decade?

    I don't have an answer to that. But I have watched tennis for many years
    and there have been many cases where it looked like player X would
    dominate as far as the eye can see and it didn't happen. Not only didn't
    they dominate, they never won again. Some examples, IMO:

    If the day Borg won the 1981 FO someone had said he'd never win another
    FO or any slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 1984 US Open, someone had said Mac would never win another
    slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 1988 US Open, someone said Wilander had just won his last
    slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If the day Becker won 1989 Wimbledon someone had said he'd never win
    another Wimbledon, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 92 USO, someone said that Edberg had just won his last
    slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If the day before Federer played the 09 USO final, someone said he'd
    already won his last USO, wouldn't win that one or any more, nobody
    would have believed it.

    In all these cases, these guys, all great champions, looked at that
    moment that they would win many more, and they never won a single one.

    Tennis is funny that way. Not saying that will happen with CA, I expect
    him to win several more slams. So there's just too much of that kind of
    history for me to be confident that anyone is going to win lots of slams
    going forward.

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to Gracchus on Mon Jul 17 10:03:59 2023
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 4:17:59 AM UTC+3, Gracchus wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:14:46 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 12:58 PM, Whisper wrote:


    Until Carlos breaks it ; )
    Crap, didn't see you had posted this until after I hit the send button on mine.

    CA certainly did save Fed today, but these mountains are hard to climb. Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and that might not be settled yet either.

    Exactly. LOL at the people claiming pizza-face Alcaraz will win 30 slams and walk on water.
    I believe Alcarez has the talent and fortitude to win double-digit slams for sure, especially if his toughest competition turns out to be guys like Sinner, Rune, and Ruud. He already has two at 20 and his game is still a work in progress. I'll bet his
    complexion will clear up in time too.

    As like with Fed, Djoker, Nadal

    The toughest competition is from media, fans, press....

    There Fed, Djoker, Nadal excelled....(though Djoker's Covid-19 adventures)

    But can tier1 sportstar sustain 10y+ in first flame? Becker folded after a couple of years years, Connors got fat after partying after 1974, Agassi had all incidents on Earth from drugs, wigs..., Wilander/Borg just quitted when about 25y, Mac took
    sabbatical when 26y.....

    .mikko

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to stephenj on Mon Jul 17 21:53:42 2023
    stephenj <sjork@pr.net> Wrote in message:r
    On 7/16/2023 8:25 PM, No Buyout wrote:> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:>> Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and>> that might not be settled yet either.> > Because he had to deal with Federer
    and Nadal. Who do you think will win as many Slams as Alcaraz over > the next decade?I don't have an answer to that. But I have watched tennis for many years and there have been many cases where it looked like player X would dominate as far as the eye
    can see and it didn't happen. Not only didn't they dominate, they never won again. Some examples, IMO:If the day Borg won the 1981 FO someone had said he'd never win another FO or any slam, nobody would have believed it.If after the 1984 US Open, someone
    had said Mac would never win another slam, nobody would have believed it.If after the 1988 US Open, someone said Wilander had just won his last slam, nobody would have believed it.If the day Becker won 1989 Wimbledon someone had said he'd never win
    another Wimbledon, nobody would have believed it.If after the 92 USO, someone said that Edberg had just won his last slam, nobody would have believed it.If the day before Federer played the 09 USO final, someone said he'd already won his last USO, wouldn'
    t win that one or any more, nobody would have believed it.In all these cases, these guys, all great champions, looked at that moment that they would win many more, and they never won a single one.Tennis is funny that way. Not saying that will happen with
    CA, I expect him to win several more slams. So there's just too much of that kind of history for me to be confident that anyone is going to win lots of slams going forward.

    Very true, good post.
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  • From me@21:1/5 to stephenj on Mon Jul 17 12:00:22 2023
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 5:45:24 PM UTC+1, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 8:25 PM, No Buyout wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

    Because he had to deal with Federer and Nadal. Who do you think will win as many Slams as Alcaraz over > the next decade?
    I don't have an answer to that. But I have watched tennis for many years
    and there have been many cases where it looked like player X would
    dominate as far as the eye can see and it didn't happen. Not only didn't they dominate, they never won again. Some examples, IMO:

    If the day Borg won the 1981 FO someone had said he'd never win another
    FO or any slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 1984 US Open, someone had said Mac would never win another slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 1988 US Open, someone said Wilander had just won his last
    slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If the day Becker won 1989 Wimbledon someone had said he'd never win
    another Wimbledon, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 92 USO, someone said that Edberg had just won his last
    slam, nobody would have believed it.

    I agree with your other examples, but not this one.


    If the day before Federer played the 09 USO final, someone said he'd
    already won his last USO, wouldn't win that one or any more, nobody
    would have believed it.

    In all these cases, these guys, all great champions, looked at that
    moment that they would win many more, and they never won a single one.

    Tennis is funny that way. Not saying that will happen with CA, I expect
    him to win several more slams. So there's just too much of that kind of history for me to be confident that anyone is going to win lots of slams going forward.

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 17 12:21:17 2023
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 10:00:25 PM UTC+3, me wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 5:45:24 PM UTC+1, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 8:25 PM, No Buyout wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

    Because he had to deal with Federer and Nadal. Who do you think will win as many Slams as Alcaraz over > the next decade?
    I don't have an answer to that. But I have watched tennis for many years and there have been many cases where it looked like player X would dominate as far as the eye can see and it didn't happen. Not only didn't they dominate, they never won again. Some examples, IMO:

    If the day Borg won the 1981 FO someone had said he'd never win another
    FO or any slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 1984 US Open, someone had said Mac would never win another slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 1988 US Open, someone said Wilander had just won his last slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If the day Becker won 1989 Wimbledon someone had said he'd never win another Wimbledon, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 92 USO, someone said that Edberg had just won his last
    slam, nobody would have believed it.
    I agree with your other examples, but not this one.

    If the day before Federer played the 09 USO final, someone said he'd already won his last USO, wouldn't win that one or any more, nobody
    would have believed it.

    In all these cases, these guys, all great champions, looked at that
    moment that they would win many more, and they never won a single one.

    Tennis is funny that way. Not saying that will happen with CA, I expect him to win several more slams. So there's just too much of that kind of history for me to be confident that anyone is going to win lots of slams going forward.

    "lesser examples": AO 1990 being the last slam win for Lendl, Courier suddenly stopping it completely after AO 1993. Even Hewitt, Safin, Roddick....and from older ranks Nastase.

    Things happen, more you speculate, more fanboy you are. But that is the fun part.

    .mikko

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 20:49:20 2023
    On 17/07/2023 10:14 am, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 12:58 PM, Whisper wrote:


    Until Carlos breaks it ; )
    Crap, didn't see you had posted this until after I hit the send button
    on mine.

    CA certainly did save Fed today, but these mountains are hard to climb.
    Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

    Exactly. LOL at the people claiming pizza-face Alcaraz will win 30 slams and walk on water.


    It's not possible to extrapolate 10+ yrs into the future, and pointless.
    Best to look short term, next 3 to 5 years, and then based on what
    happens look at the following 5 yrs.

    I think he can win 2-4 slams every year over next 5 years. Split the
    dif and give him 3 slams per yr on average and he'll be on 17 slams by
    25. Don't forget Federer was regularly winning 3 slams per yr without a
    rival, and likely would have 2 calendar slams back to back 2006 and 2007
    if not for Nadal in FO finals.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to Whisper on Tue Jul 18 14:09:08 2023
    On 18.7.2023 13.49, Whisper wrote:
    On 17/07/2023 10:14 am, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 12:58 PM, Whisper wrote:


    Until Carlos breaks it ; )
    Crap, didn't see you had posted this until after I hit the send button
    on mine.

    CA certainly did save Fed today, but these mountains are hard to climb.
    Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

    Exactly. LOL at the people claiming pizza-face Alcaraz will win 30
    slams and walk on water.


    It's not possible to extrapolate 10+ yrs into the future, and pointless.
     Best to look short term, next 3 to 5 years, and then based on what
    happens look at the following 5 yrs.

    I think he can win 2-4 slams every year over next 5 years.  Split the
    dif and give him 3 slams per yr on average and he'll be on 17 slams by
    25.  Don't forget Federer was regularly winning 3 slams per yr without a rival, and likely would have 2 calendar slams back to back 2006 and 2007
    if not for Nadal in FO finals.

    Yes. Alcatraz' full potential is 4 x 20 slams. Halving that is just
    being realistic. He too will have his 40-15 moments at some point,
    deducting ten from the half makes it feet-on-the-ground realistic.

    And to think that some here didn't think all this and more wasn't in the
    cards for him when the potential for it was already readable from the
    stars and hairdos. Loud and clear. He wasn't called New BOAT for nothing.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to No Buyout on Tue Jul 18 20:51:36 2023
    On 17/07/2023 11:25 am, No Buyout wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

    Because he had to deal with Federer and Nadal. Who do you think will win as many Slams as Alcaraz over the next decade?


    Jaros' point is anything can happen. I think we should restrict serious analysis to 3-5 yr periods. Too much can happen over 10-15 years.

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  • From RaspingDrive@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 18 07:08:34 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 7:09:11 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:

    And to think that some here didn't think all this and more wasn't in the cards for him when the potential for it was already readable from the
    stars and hairdos. Loud and clear. He wasn't called New BOAT for nothing.

    I suppose you are talking about the Avatar. Look at this: Exalted Jupiter, Exalted Sun, Exalted Mars, Exalted Venus, Exalted Moon (assuming that the 3 am birth time is correct), Exalted Ketu (I read that it is Moon's south node). It is not my intention
    to brag about religion here. But just want to note that Lord Rama, who the Hindus revere, had exalted Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, Sun, Venus, Ketu (and Rahu, the other node). Only that, for Lord Rama, the exaltation was peakity peak.

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  • From stephenj@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Tue Jul 18 15:25:18 2023
    On 7/17/2023 2:21 PM, MBDunc wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 10:00:25 PM UTC+3, me wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 5:45:24 PM UTC+1, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 8:25 PM, No Buyout wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and >>>>> that might not be settled yet either.

    Because he had to deal with Federer and Nadal. Who do you think will win as many Slams as Alcaraz over > the next decade?
    I don't have an answer to that. But I have watched tennis for many years >>> and there have been many cases where it looked like player X would
    dominate as far as the eye can see and it didn't happen. Not only didn't >>> they dominate, they never won again. Some examples, IMO:

    If the day Borg won the 1981 FO someone had said he'd never win another
    FO or any slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 1984 US Open, someone had said Mac would never win another
    slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 1988 US Open, someone said Wilander had just won his last
    slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If the day Becker won 1989 Wimbledon someone had said he'd never win
    another Wimbledon, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 92 USO, someone said that Edberg had just won his last
    slam, nobody would have believed it.
    I agree with your other examples, but not this one.

    If the day before Federer played the 09 USO final, someone said he'd
    already won his last USO, wouldn't win that one or any more, nobody
    would have believed it.

    In all these cases, these guys, all great champions, looked at that
    moment that they would win many more, and they never won a single one.

    Tennis is funny that way. Not saying that will happen with CA, I expect
    him to win several more slams. So there's just too much of that kind of
    history for me to be confident that anyone is going to win lots of slams >>> going forward.

    "lesser examples": AO 1990 being the last slam win for Lendl, Courier suddenly stopping it completely after AO 1993. Even Hewitt, Safin, Roddick....and from older ranks Nastase.

    Things happen, more you speculate, more fanboy you are. But that is the fun part.

    .mikko

    Yeah, I remember 20 years (!!!) ago, when Fed won W and Roddick won USO,
    it looked like they would duel it out for supremacy for many years to
    come, with each guy winning several more slams. If someone had said Fed
    would win 19 more but Roddick zero, I think that would have been scoffed
    at at the time.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to Whisper on Tue Jul 18 20:39:35 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:49:35 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 17/07/2023 10:14 am, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 12:58 PM, Whisper wrote:


    Until Carlos breaks it ; )
    Crap, didn't see you had posted this until after I hit the send button
    on mine.

    CA certainly did save Fed today, but these mountains are hard to climb. >> Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

    Exactly. LOL at the people claiming pizza-face Alcaraz will win 30 slams and walk on water.
    It's not possible to extrapolate 10+ yrs into the future, and pointless. Best to look short term, next 3 to 5 years, and then based on what
    happens look at the following 5 yrs.

    I think he can win 2-4 slams every year over next 5 years. Split the
    dif and give him 3 slams per yr on average and he'll be on 17 slams by
    25. Don't forget Federer was regularly winning 3 slams per yr without a rival, and likely would have 2 calendar slams back to back 2006 and 2007
    if not for Nadal in FO finals.

    Let's just all calm down! Yes, Alcaraz is the best younger player we've seen since Nadal and it seems that he will have a career of double digit slams but we need to wait and see how he does after the Wimbledon success. That may overwhelm him. Or, he may
    be injured a lot. Or, he may decide that winning a slam a year is enough. Who knows. Remember Emma Raducanu? Alcaraz is clearly 100 times the player she is but these overreactions after one big win or loss are stupid IMO.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to stephenj on Tue Jul 18 20:42:56 2023
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 4:25:19 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/17/2023 2:21 PM, MBDunc wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 10:00:25 PM UTC+3, me wrote:
    On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 5:45:24 PM UTC+1, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 8:25 PM, No Buyout wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and >>>>> that might not be settled yet either.

    Because he had to deal with Federer and Nadal. Who do you think will win as many Slams as Alcaraz over > the next decade?
    I don't have an answer to that. But I have watched tennis for many years >>> and there have been many cases where it looked like player X would
    dominate as far as the eye can see and it didn't happen. Not only didn't >>> they dominate, they never won again. Some examples, IMO:

    If the day Borg won the 1981 FO someone had said he'd never win another >>> FO or any slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 1984 US Open, someone had said Mac would never win another >>> slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 1988 US Open, someone said Wilander had just won his last >>> slam, nobody would have believed it.

    If the day Becker won 1989 Wimbledon someone had said he'd never win
    another Wimbledon, nobody would have believed it.

    If after the 92 USO, someone said that Edberg had just won his last
    slam, nobody would have believed it.
    I agree with your other examples, but not this one.

    If the day before Federer played the 09 USO final, someone said he'd
    already won his last USO, wouldn't win that one or any more, nobody
    would have believed it.

    In all these cases, these guys, all great champions, looked at that
    moment that they would win many more, and they never won a single one. >>>
    Tennis is funny that way. Not saying that will happen with CA, I expect >>> him to win several more slams. So there's just too much of that kind of >>> history for me to be confident that anyone is going to win lots of slams >>> going forward.

    "lesser examples": AO 1990 being the last slam win for Lendl, Courier suddenly stopping it completely after AO 1993. Even Hewitt, Safin, Roddick....and from older ranks Nastase.

    Things happen, more you speculate, more fanboy you are. But that is the fun part.

    .mikko
    Yeah, I remember 20 years (!!!) ago, when Fed won W and Roddick won USO,
    it looked like they would duel it out for supremacy for many years to
    come, with each guy winning several more slams. If someone had said Fed would win 19 more but Roddick zero, I think that would have been scoffed
    at at the time.

    I also thought Roddick would win many more slams after his USO win. He just wasn't good enough and Federer was much better.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 16:02:34 2023
    On 19/07/2023 1:39 pm, Court_1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:49:35 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 17/07/2023 10:14 am, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 12:58 PM, Whisper wrote:


    Until Carlos breaks it ; )
    Crap, didn't see you had posted this until after I hit the send button >>>> on mine.

    CA certainly did save Fed today, but these mountains are hard to climb. >>>> Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

    Exactly. LOL at the people claiming pizza-face Alcaraz will win 30 slams and walk on water.
    It's not possible to extrapolate 10+ yrs into the future, and pointless.
    Best to look short term, next 3 to 5 years, and then based on what
    happens look at the following 5 yrs.

    I think he can win 2-4 slams every year over next 5 years. Split the
    dif and give him 3 slams per yr on average and he'll be on 17 slams by
    25. Don't forget Federer was regularly winning 3 slams per yr without a
    rival, and likely would have 2 calendar slams back to back 2006 and 2007
    if not for Nadal in FO finals.

    Let's just all calm down! Yes, Alcaraz is the best younger player we've seen since Nadal and it seems that he will have a career of double digit slams but we need to wait and see how he does after the Wimbledon success. That may overwhelm >him. Or, he
    may be injured a lot. Or, he may decide that winning a slam a year is enough. Who knows. Remember Emma Raducanu? Alcaraz is clearly 100 times the player she is but these overreactions after one big win or loss are stupid IMO.


    Sure, and that's why we should only look 3 years ahead at a time as life happens. It's just that Carlos is something special, never seen anyone
    quite like him. No apparent weakness, lots of strengths and he's just
    coming off his training wheels.

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  • From Tuan@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 19 03:57:09 2023
    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 1:39:37 PM UTC+10, Court_1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:49:35 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 17/07/2023 10:14 am, Court_1 wrote:
    On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:46:46 PM UTC-4, stephenj wrote:
    On 7/16/2023 12:58 PM, Whisper wrote:


    Until Carlos breaks it ; )
    Crap, didn't see you had posted this until after I hit the send button >> on mine.

    CA certainly did save Fed today, but these mountains are hard to climb. >> Took Joker over 15 years to reach the all-time slam winner peak, and
    that might not be settled yet either.

    Exactly. LOL at the people claiming pizza-face Alcaraz will win 30 slams and walk on water.
    It's not possible to extrapolate 10+ yrs into the future, and pointless. Best to look short term, next 3 to 5 years, and then based on what
    happens look at the following 5 yrs.

    I think he can win 2-4 slams every year over next 5 years. Split the
    dif and give him 3 slams per yr on average and he'll be on 17 slams by
    25. Don't forget Federer was regularly winning 3 slams per yr without a rival, and likely would have 2 calendar slams back to back 2006 and 2007 if not for Nadal in FO finals.
    Let's just all calm down! Yes, Alcaraz is the best younger player we've seen since Nadal and it seems that he will have a career of double digit slams but we need to wait and see how he does after the Wimbledon success. That may overwhelm him. Or, he
    may be injured a lot. Or, he may decide that winning a slam a year is enough. Who knows. Remember Emma Raducanu? Alcaraz is clearly 100 times the player she is but these overreactions after one big win or loss are stupid IMO.

    Clearly you haven't watched Alcaraz :)

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