• Re: 'This is still a secret' said Trump on CNN tape

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Wed Jun 28 17:54:58 2023
    On 28.6.2023 16.52, bruce bowser wrote:
    Trump Heard On CNN Tape Discussing Military Secrets ..
    Guardian.co.uk - June 27, 2023
    -- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/26/donald-trump-classified-documents-recording-pentagon-iran

    The good mews is that the tiny desk will fit into any prison cell.

    https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/1200x800/public/d8/images/methode/2020/11/28/2848abda-30b9-11eb-be20-200ca6256645_image_hires_003404.jpeg?itok=EjlzQoAT&v=1606494850

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 28 08:16:20 2023
    On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 10:55:02 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 28.6.2023 16.52, bruce bowser wrote:
    Trump Heard On CNN Tape Discussing Military Secrets ..
    Guardian.co.uk - June 27, 2023
    -- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/26/donald-trump-classified-documents-recording-pentagon-iran
    The good mews is that the tiny desk will fit into any prison cell.

    https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/1200x800/public/d8/images/methode/2020/11/28/2848abda-30b9-11eb-be20-200ca6256645_image_hires_003404.jpeg?itok=EjlzQoAT&v=1606494850

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

    They were laughing, cant declassify now! What a pos the mofo is, nazi bastard!

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 28 10:37:57 2023
    On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 7:55:02 AM UTC-7, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 28.6.2023 16.52, bruce bowser wrote:
    Trump Heard On CNN Tape Discussing Military Secrets ..
    Guardian.co.uk - June 27, 2023
    -- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/26/donald-trump-classified-documents-recording-pentagon-iran
    The good mews is that the tiny desk will fit into any prison cell.

    https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/1200x800/public/d8/images/methode/2020/11/28/2848abda-30b9-11eb-be20-200ca6256645_image_hires_003404.jpeg?itok=EjlzQoAT&v=1606494850

    LOL.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to bmoore on Wed Jun 28 14:23:25 2023
    On Wednesday, 28 June 2023 at 18:37:59 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 7:55:02 AM UTC-7, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 28.6.2023 16.52, bruce bowser wrote:
    Trump Heard On CNN Tape Discussing Military Secrets ..
    Guardian.co.uk - June 27, 2023
    -- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/26/donald-trump-classified-documents-recording-pentagon-iran
    The good mews is that the tiny desk will fit into any prison cell.

    https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/1200x800/public/d8/images/methode/2020/11/28/2848abda-30b9-11eb-be20-200ca6256645_image_hires_003404.jpeg?itok=EjlzQoAT&v=1606494850
    LOL.

    you love Joe Biden and voted for him LOL

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to gap...@gmail.com on Wed Jun 28 14:23:04 2023
    On Wednesday, 28 June 2023 at 16:16:22 UTC+1, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 10:55:02 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 28.6.2023 16.52, bruce bowser wrote:
    Trump Heard On CNN Tape Discussing Military Secrets ..
    Guardian.co.uk - June 27, 2023
    -- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/26/donald-trump-classified-documents-recording-pentagon-iran
    The good mews is that the tiny desk will fit into any prison cell.

    https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/1200x800/public/d8/images/methode/2020/11/28/2848abda-30b9-11eb-be20-200ca6256645_image_hires_003404.jpeg?itok=EjlzQoAT&v=1606494850

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional
    They were laughing, cant declassify now! What a pos the mofo is, nazi bastard!

    you're paid by the Demcrat Party so you would say that, you call everyone a nazi don't you?

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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Wed Jun 28 16:04:44 2023
    On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 5:23:06 PM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Wednesday, 28 June 2023 at 16:16:22 UTC+1, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 10:55:02 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 28.6.2023 16.52, bruce bowser wrote:
    Trump Heard On CNN Tape Discussing Military Secrets ..
    Guardian.co.uk - June 27, 2023
    -- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/26/donald-trump-classified-documents-recording-pentagon-iran
    The good mews is that the tiny desk will fit into any prison cell.

    https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/1200x800/public/d8/images/methode/2020/11/28/2848abda-30b9-11eb-be20-200ca6256645_image_hires_003404.jpeg?itok=EjlzQoAT&v=1606494850

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional
    They were laughing, cant declassify now! What a pos the mofo is, nazi bastard!
    you're paid by the Demcrat Party so you would say that, you call everyone a nazi don't you?

    Hunter Biden is a piece of garbage, should be in jail!

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Wed Jun 28 22:30:24 2023
    bruce bowser <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
    Trump Heard On CNN Tape Discussing Military Secrets ..
    Guardian.co.uk - June 27, 2023

    I did not follow your link, but I do know that
    Trump is nothing but a fucking stupid criminal
    bastard that should be put into jail for life.

    What a sick and disgusting loser!

    He was not even fit for a fucking stupid
    reality TV show like The Apprentice. His whole
    life is a fucking pathetic joke. Hah hah!

    USA has had its share of stupid presidents
    like Nixon and Reagan, but Trump's stupidity
    took things to a next level. Compared to
    Trump, Reagan looks like a real genius.

    During his presidency, fucking Trump even
    admitted that he admires fucking Putler!

    Guess what? The truth is that fucking Trump
    is actually a fucking *RUSSIAN* puppet trying
    to destroy democracy in the USA. He wants
    USA to be like fucking Russia, China
    and North Korea. Oh no!

    When it comes to the Democrats, Biden is
    simply way too old. The democrats need
    to find a younger candidate.

    For fuck's sake, it is beyond belief
    that something like 50% of all americans
    voted for fucking Trump. I guess those
    morons are ready to do it again if Trump
    is among the candidates.

    Frank Zappa knew that most americans
    are so fucking delusional.

    br,
    KK

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to gap...@gmail.com on Wed Jun 28 17:00:55 2023
    On 6/28/23 4:04 PM, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 5:23:06 PM UTC-4, The Iceberg wrote:
    On Wednesday, 28 June 2023 at 16:16:22 UTC+1, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 10:55:02 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote: >>>> On 28.6.2023 16.52, bruce bowser wrote:
    Trump Heard On CNN Tape Discussing Military Secrets ..
    Guardian.co.uk - June 27, 2023
    -- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/26/donald-trump-classified-documents-recording-pentagon-iran
    The good mews is that the tiny desk will fit into any prison cell.

    https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/1200x800/public/d8/images/methode/2020/11/28/2848abda-30b9-11eb-be20-200ca6256645_image_hires_003404.jpeg?itok=EjlzQoAT&v=1606494850

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional
    They were laughing, cant declassify now! What a pos the mofo is, nazi bastard!
    you're paid by the Demcrat Party so you would say that, you call everyone a nazi don't you?
    Hunter Biden is a piece of garbage, should be in jail!

    None of this will ever happen, though.

    No Hunter, no Donald, nada.

    So, no justice, every man for himself until further notice.

    Right?

    You know me, gypes: I'm not shittin'...

    --
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sawfish: A totally unreconstructed elasmobranch. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Thu Jun 29 00:57:04 2023
    On Wednesday, 28 June 2023 at 23:30:27 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Trump Heard On CNN Tape Discussing Military Secrets ..
    Guardian.co.uk - June 27, 2023
    I did not follow your link, but I do know that
    Trump is nothing but a fucking stupid criminal
    bastard that should be put into jail for life.

    What a sick and disgusting loser!

    He was not even fit for a fucking stupid
    reality TV show like The Apprentice. His whole
    life is a fucking pathetic joke. Hah hah!

    oh yes a world famous billionaire, with a beautiful wife, the world's #1 TV star who became President, despite the entire MSM and establishment laughing him off! who kept world peace for 5 years, who was then deposed only by a huge MSM/big-tech/FBI/CIA-
    backed swamp campaign that is only just coming out. Despite all that Trump still won the biggest vote a President has ever had, yet somehow Biden got 20MILLION more votes than Hillary and Obama...hmmm

    USA has had its share of stupid presidents
    like Nixon and Reagan, but Trump's stupidity
    took things to a next level. Compared to
    Trump, Reagan looks like a real genius.

    Reagan was a genius, he destroyed your communism. Also it's just the leftist MSM and Trump-hating big tech telling you that, being an NPC you follow everything the MSM tells you, so you're even dumb enough to say a man wearing a dress is a woman, yes!

    During his presidency, fucking Trump even
    admitted that he admires fucking Putler!

    what's not to admire? Putin warned the NATO(aka Biden) there was a red line at the Ukraine, which Biden purposely ignored, like he did when Hillary and co orchestrated the Ukraine coup in 2014.

    Guess what? The truth is that fucking Trump
    is actually a fucking *RUSSIAN* puppet trying
    to destroy democracy in the USA. He wants
    USA to be like fucking Russia, China
    and North Korea. Oh no!

    oh yes you mean at peace with the world and allowing free speech, unlike the warmongers and neocons of Biden, Hillary etc.?

    When it comes to the Democrats, Biden is
    simply way too old. The democrats need
    to find a younger candidate.

    you still love the Dems don't you despite them backing sex perverts who wear dresses mixing with children and importing countless illegal immigrants just for votes, yes.

    For fuck's sake, it is beyond belief
    that something like 50% of all americans
    voted for fucking Trump. I guess those
    morons are ready to do it again if Trump
    is among the candidates.

    you would have voted for zero-policy Hillary instead, yes? come on, tell us a single policy Hillary had LOL

    Frank Zappa knew that most americans
    are so fucking delusional.

    you never had this opinion when Trump was only a TV star, soon as he interrupted/wrecked your leftist dumbness that's when you changed, yes.

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Thu Jun 29 10:52:32 2023
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:
    oh yes a world famous billionaire, with a beautiful wife, the world's #1 TV star who became President, despite the entire MSM and establishment laughing him off! who kept world peace for 5 years, who was then deposed only by a huge MSM/big-tech/FBI/CIA-
    backed swamp campaign that is only just coming out. Despite all that Trump still won the biggest vote a President has ever had, yet somehow Biden got 20MILLION more votes than Hillary and Obama...hmmm

    USA is full of fools and sickos like you. They believe
    in all kinds of lies and conspiracy theories. Hah hah!

    Reagan was a genius, he destroyed your communism.

    He was a fucking stupid B-movie star.
    "Your communism? Fuck you, I fucking hate communism.

    Nixon was a fucking communist who started "The War
    on Drugs", denying americans citizens their right
    to get high.

    It is a basic human right to do whatever you
    want to your own body and mind, isn't it?

    In the fucking communist countries, the fucking
    state owns all individuals. The fucking communist
    leaders dictate what the people are allowed to
    do.

    Holy fuck, Timothy Leary tried to heal the
    fucking sick nation called USA. The fucking
    american communist leaders put him down and
    even sentenced him. So sick and pathetic! :-)

    Yeah, Leary got a little bit carried away
    but his basic ideas were, and still are,
    sound and valid.

    Also it's just the leftist MSM and Trump-hating big tech telling you that, being an NPC you follow everything the MSM tells you, so you're even dumb enough to say a man wearing a dress is a woman, yes!

    Hahahahaa! I don't even know what fucking
    NPC and MSM mean!

    During his presidency, fucking Trump even
    admitted that he admires fucking Putler!

    what's not to admire? Putin warned the NATO(aka Biden) there was a red line at the Ukraine, which Biden purposely ignored, like he did when Hillary and co orchestrated the Ukraine coup in 2014.

    Your stupidity is fucking epic. Those who admire Putler
    are nothing but fucking ass monkeys. Russia is profoundly
    evil. It is ruled by evil forces.

    Guess what? The truth is that fucking Trump
    is actually a fucking *RUSSIAN* puppet trying
    to destroy democracy in the USA. He wants
    USA to be like fucking Russia, China
    and North Korea. Oh no!

    oh yes you mean at peace with the world and allowing free speech, unlike the warmongers and neocons of Biden, Hillary etc.?

    Trump is a fucking traitor, a fucking russian
    puppet. Like I said, He wants USA to become
    like fucking Russia, China ja North Korea.

    Beware!

    When it comes to the Democrats, Biden is
    simply way too old. The democrats need
    to find a younger candidate.

    you still love the Dems don't you despite them backing sex perverts who wear dresses mixing with children and importing countless illegal immigrants just for votes, yes.

    In the USA, you either vote for the Democrats or
    Republicans. Frank Zappa taught me to
    hate and despise the fucking Republicans.

    Later on, I watched them go and concluded
    that Frank was 100% right.

    For fuck's sake, it is beyond belief
    that something like 50% of all americans
    voted for fucking Trump. I guess those
    morons are ready to do it again if Trump
    is among the candidates.

    you would have voted for zero-policy Hillary instead, yes? come on, tell us a single policy Hillary had LOL

    Trump vs Hillary is no contest. I will never
    vote for idiots like Trump.

    Actually, I have completely stopped voting.
    Those bastard politicians do not deserve
    my support.

    Frank Zappa knew that most americans
    are so fucking delusional.

    you never had this opinion when Trump was only a TV star, soon as he interrupted/wrecked your leftist dumbness that's when you changed, yes.

    I have always hated the fucking stupid
    TV show called The Apprentice. Here in
    Finland they broadcast the same fucking
    shit, licensed and using the name "Diili"
    (Deal).

    br,
    KK

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Thu Jun 29 15:45:59 2023
    On Thursday, 29 June 2023 at 11:52:35 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:
    oh yes a world famous billionaire, with a beautiful wife, the world's #1 TV star who became President, despite the entire MSM and establishment laughing him off! who kept world peace for 5 years, who was then deposed only by a huge MSM/big-tech/FBI/
    CIA-backed swamp campaign that is only just coming out. Despite all that Trump still won the biggest vote a President has ever had, yet somehow Biden got 20MILLION more votes than Hillary and Obama...hmmm
    USA is full of fools and sickos like you. They believe
    in all kinds of lies and conspiracy theories. Hah hah!

    yes that is true "Twump Russia Possible Collusion", "the Wuhan Chinese lab was a total coincidence and it's wacist to say so", "Russians interfered in the 2016 election", all now totally debunked.

    Reagan was a genius, he destroyed your communism.
    He was a fucking stupid B-movie star.
    "Your communism? Fuck you, I fucking hate communism.

    so why do you love forced vaxes, concentration camps, you hate free speech, you want people put in prison for using wrong dumb pronouns etc?

    Nixon was a fucking communist who started "The War
    on Drugs", denying americans citizens their right
    to get high.

    yes he was very stupid to do that.

    It is a basic human right to do whatever you
    want to your own body and mind, isn't it?

    no cos your best pals the drugs dealers are evil people and they kill others. You're rich/naive/dumb so bound not to realise this.

    In the fucking communist countries, the fucking
    state owns all individuals. The fucking communist
    leaders dictate what the people are allowed to
    do.

    sounds like the dream socialist nation - lock me down harder!

    Holy fuck, Timothy Leary tried to heal the
    fucking sick nation called USA. The fucking
    american communist leaders put him down and
    even sentenced him. So sick and pathetic! :-)

    Yeah, Leary got a little bit carried away
    but his basic ideas were, and still are,
    sound and valid.

    you must be about 10, quite funny though.

    Also it's just the leftist MSM and Trump-hating big tech telling you that, being an NPC you follow everything the MSM tells you, so you're even dumb enough to say a man wearing a dress is a woman, yes!
    Hahahahaa! I don't even know what fucking
    NPC and MSM mean!
    During his presidency, fucking Trump even
    admitted that he admires fucking Putler!

    what's not to admire? Putin warned the NATO(aka Biden) there was a red line at the Ukraine, which Biden purposely ignored, like he did when Hillary and co orchestrated the Ukraine coup in 2014.
    Your stupidity is fucking epic. Those who admire Putler
    are nothing but fucking ass monkeys. Russia is profoundly
    evil. It is ruled by evil forces.
    Guess what? The truth is that fucking Trump
    is actually a fucking *RUSSIAN* puppet trying
    to destroy democracy in the USA. He wants
    USA to be like fucking Russia, China
    and North Korea. Oh no!

    oh yes you mean at peace with the world and allowing free speech, unlike the warmongers and neocons of Biden, Hillary etc.?
    Trump is a fucking traitor, a fucking russian
    puppet. Like I said, He wants USA to become
    like fucking Russia, China ja North Korea.

    Beware!

    no he's not, Trump was a total independent (the best sort), whereas Obama and Joe Biden are China shills and much more dangerous. That's why they have convinved you that a man that wears a dress is a woman and you agree.

    When it comes to the Democrats, Biden is
    simply way too old. The democrats need
    to find a younger candidate.

    you still love the Dems don't you despite them backing sex perverts who wear dresses mixing with children and importing countless illegal immigrants just for votes, yes.
    In the USA, you either vote for the Democrats or
    Republicans. Frank Zappa taught me to
    hate and despise the fucking Republicans.

    Later on, I watched them go and concluded
    that Frank was 100% right.

    what a surprise, perfect demonstration of the MSM telling you how to think.

    For fuck's sake, it is beyond belief
    that something like 50% of all americans
    voted for fucking Trump. I guess those
    morons are ready to do it again if Trump
    is among the candidates.

    you would have voted for zero-policy Hillary instead, yes? come on, tell us a single policy Hillary had LOL
    Trump vs Hillary is no contest. I will never
    vote for idiots like Trump.

    yes nobody normal who has any brain would vote for Hillary, unless they are just following what the Hillary-backed media tell them.

    Actually, I have completely stopped voting.
    Those bastard politicians do not deserve
    my support.
    Frank Zappa knew that most americans
    are so fucking delusional.

    you never had this opinion when Trump was only a TV star, soon as he interrupted/wrecked your leftist dumbness that's when you changed, yes.
    I have always hated the fucking stupid
    TV show called The Apprentice. Here in
    Finland they broadcast the same fucking
    shit, licensed and using the name "Diili"
    (Deal).

    cool.

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Fri Jun 30 06:13:06 2023
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:
    cool.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3QGm46YbrU

    Fuck the fucking Republicans.

    br,
    KK

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Fri Jun 30 03:32:31 2023
    On Friday, 30 June 2023 at 07:13:10 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:
    cool.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3QGm46YbrU

    Fuck the fucking Republicans.

    your Democrat scumbags are in power, you maroon! also they far worse, lie far more than the Repubs eg. they even say a man in a dress = a woman, they so crooked the DOJ even gave HUNTER BIDEN special treatment! so you're just a government shill, comrade!
    LOL

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Fri Jun 30 12:22:07 2023
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:
    your Democrat scumbags are in power, you maroon! also they far worse, lie far more than the Repubs eg. they even say a man in a dress = a woman, they so crooked the DOJ even gave HUNTER BIDEN special treatment! so you're just a government shill,
    comrade! LOL

    The Democrats are stupid assholes, that is true.
    But the fucking Republicans are even worse. They
    seriously suck ass.

    Similarly USA is a seriously fucked up nation, but
    fucking Russia and fucking China are even worse.
    Russia and China are not even worth criticism, as
    they are full of shit and cannot be repaired.
    Those fucking hellholes should be destroyed
    altogether.

    On the other hand, I think USA has *tiny chances*
    of improving, so it is worth criticizing. They
    have already legalized weed in many states
    and psilocybin is now gaining acceptance, too.
    That is good a sign and positive development, bro.

    Congratulations.

    But how do you mend the fucking capitalist shit
    that is prevalent in the USA politics? The fucking
    American Dream, i.e. getting damn rich, is just a
    fucked up materialistic idea. "From rags to
    riches"? Fuck that! Hah hah! :-)

    That is right, I don't give a shit about how
    much money fucking Trump has! He is a delusional
    bastard like most americans. Musk, Bezos, I could
    not care less about them.

    Trump did at least one good thing, though. He invented,
    or at least popularized, the term "shithole country"
    when he was wondering why only people from shithole
    countries want to move to USA. Poor Donald did not
    realize that his beloved USA is among those shithole
    countries as well.

    Indeed, so many countries in this world are shithole
    countries. Finland is among the best countries in
    the world, but sadly this is still a shithole
    country, too.

    For example, our current fucking government is
    just pure trash. One fucking minister just got
    fired because it turned out that the bastard is a
    fucking nazi! Holy fuck!

    Despite that, te fucking bastard won
    government's trust on Wednesday election. Now
    he is gone, because the government idiots
    realized that the nazi bastard is bad publicity
    for Finland! The second biggest newspaper in
    Germany wrote about the fucking nazi minister,
    and our government got scared.

    Most policians in Finland are highly corrupted
    traitors. Just like in the USA.

    br,
    KK

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Fri Jun 30 17:52:06 2023
    On 30.6.2023 15.22, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Indeed, so many countries in this world are shithole
    countries. Finland is among the best countries in
    the world, but sadly this is still a shithole
    country, too.

    Lol.

    For example, our current fucking government is
    just pure trash. One fucking minister just got
    fired because it turned out that the bastard is a
    fucking nazi! Holy fuck!

    Ha ha ha. I didn't know he got axed! Yay!!!

    I guess the climate abortion (a proposal for investing in contraceptives
    and climate abortions in Africa to keep the numbers of climate change
    driven migrants down) thing was the last straw. Although this is public knowledge, I hadn't heard about it.

    WTF have you done, Finnskies.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Fri Jun 30 18:39:27 2023
    On 30.6.2023 18.17, Sawfish wrote:
    On 6/30/23 5:22 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:
    your Democrat scumbags are in power, you maroon! also they far worse,
    lie far more than the Repubs eg. they even say a man in a dress = a
    woman, they so crooked the DOJ even gave HUNTER BIDEN special
    treatment! so you're just a government shill, comrade!  LOL
    The Democrats are stupid assholes, that is true.
    But the fucking Republicans are even worse. They
    seriously suck ass.

    Similarly USA is a seriously fucked up nation, but
    fucking Russia and fucking China are even worse.
    Russia and China are not even worth criticism, as
    they are full of shit and cannot be repaired.
    Those fucking hellholes should be destroyed
    altogether.

    On the other hand, I think USA has *tiny chances*
    of improving, so it is worth criticizing. They
    have already legalized weed in many states
    and psilocybin is now gaining acceptance, too.
    That is good a sign and positive development, bro.

    Where I live, "personal consumption" amounts of the following drugs are *decriminalized": heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine (all forms),
    fentanyl, LSD, organic hallucinogens such as peyote and mushrooms. I
    would guess that pretty much every drug that you've heard of as "recreational" falls within this category, although there is currently
    some pushback re fentanayl.

    What decriminalization means is that at worst, if in possession of say,
    a gram of heroin or fentanyl, a cop can issue to you a ticket with a
    maximum fee of $100, and if you call a hotline for reference to a
    treatment center, the fine is waived. If you don't call and don't pay
    the fee, nothing is done, so the cops seldom write tickets at this point.

    All forms of cannabis are legal and can be purchased from dedicated storefronts.

    Do you have any personal experience in living in, or visiting, a place
    like that?

    Reminds me of another question you once asked me. "Have you ever talked
    to one (a black man)?" Meaning, if you ever had, you would understand ...

    Whatta hellhole.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Fri Jun 30 08:17:38 2023
    On 6/30/23 5:22 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:
    your Democrat scumbags are in power, you maroon! also they far worse, lie far more than the Repubs eg. they even say a man in a dress = a woman, they so crooked the DOJ even gave HUNTER BIDEN special treatment! so you're just a government shill,
    comrade! LOL
    The Democrats are stupid assholes, that is true.
    But the fucking Republicans are even worse. They
    seriously suck ass.

    Similarly USA is a seriously fucked up nation, but
    fucking Russia and fucking China are even worse.
    Russia and China are not even worth criticism, as
    they are full of shit and cannot be repaired.
    Those fucking hellholes should be destroyed
    altogether.

    On the other hand, I think USA has *tiny chances*
    of improving, so it is worth criticizing. They
    have already legalized weed in many states
    and psilocybin is now gaining acceptance, too.
    That is good a sign and positive development, bro.

    Where I live, "personal consumption" amounts of the following drugs are *decriminalized": heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine (all forms),
    fentanyl, LSD, organic hallucinogens such as peyote and mushrooms. I
    would guess that pretty much every drug that you've heard of as
    "recreational" falls within this category, although there is currently
    some pushback re fentanayl.

    What decriminalization means is that at worst, if in possession of say,
    a gram of heroin or fentanyl, a cop can issue to you a ticket with a
    maximum fee of $100, and if you call a hotline for reference to a
    treatment center, the fine is waived. If you don't call and don't pay
    the fee, nothing is done, so the cops seldom write tickets at this point.

    All forms of cannabis are legal and can be purchased from dedicated storefronts.

    Do you have any personal experience in living in, or visiting, a place
    like that?



    Congratulations.

    But how do you mend the fucking capitalist shit
    that is prevalent in the USA politics? The fucking
    American Dream, i.e. getting damn rich, is just a
    fucked up materialistic idea. "From rags to
    riches"? Fuck that! Hah hah! :-)

    That is right, I don't give a shit about how
    much money fucking Trump has! He is a delusional
    bastard like most americans. Musk, Bezos, I could
    not care less about them.

    Trump did at least one good thing, though. He invented,
    or at least popularized, the term "shithole country"
    when he was wondering why only people from shithole
    countries want to move to USA. Poor Donald did not
    realize that his beloved USA is among those shithole
    countries as well.

    Indeed, so many countries in this world are shithole
    countries. Finland is among the best countries in
    the world, but sadly this is still a shithole
    country, too.
    First among shitholes? :^)

    For example, our current fucking government is
    just pure trash. One fucking minister just got
    fired because it turned out that the bastard is a
    fucking nazi! Holy fuck!

    Despite that, te fucking bastard won
    government's trust on Wednesday election. Now
    he is gone, because the government idiots
    realized that the nazi bastard is bad publicity
    for Finland! The second biggest newspaper in
    Germany wrote about the fucking nazi minister,
    and our government got scared.

    Most policians in Finland are highly corrupted
    traitors. Just like in the USA.

    br,
    KK


    --
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    "If there's one thing I can't stand, it's intolerance." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From Sawfish@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Fri Jun 30 09:55:53 2023
    On 6/30/23 9:29 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
    Do you have any personal experience in
    living in, or visiting, a place like that?
    No, but I have heard that Portugal in Europe
    decriminalized all drugs long ago. So you can use
    whatever you want there without penalties. The
    problems related to certain drugs have not
    increased. The amount of drug users has not
    sky-rocketed either, I guess it has stayed
    pretty much the same.

    In Finland we have strict laws and the problems
    with the so-called hard drugs are getting worse
    and worse. The prohibition does not work at all
    but our politicians are too stupid to make
    rational decisions.

    By the way, I absolutely despise all kinds of
    opioids/opiates but it is a sad fact that
    some losers want to use them.

    While in a hospital back in 2000, I was given a
    morphine injection after a surgery. What a horrible
    drug! Yes, it took the pain away, so it worked that
    way. But the fucking psychological effects.... Oh no!
    Who wants to be like a fucking zombie? That's fucking
    disgusting and addiction develops very quickly!

    All drugs should be legalized, and their production
    and sale should be taken away from the criminals.
    The countries should sell them just like booze and
    tobacco.

    Drug business is the second largest business in
    the world, right after selling weapons. Now all
    the money goes to the pockets of criminals. War
    on Drugs has lasted something like 60 years and
    has been a total failure.

    br,
    KK

    Thank you for sharing your views, K. I'll say that my own experiences
    differ significantly from yours, but so what? It could be that in
    Finland it would work as you speculate that it would.

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    "Wha's yo name, fool?" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Fri Jun 30 16:29:33 2023
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
    Do you have any personal experience in
    living in, or visiting, a place like that?

    No, but I have heard that Portugal in Europe
    decriminalized all drugs long ago. So you can use
    whatever you want there without penalties. The
    problems related to certain drugs have not
    increased. The amount of drug users has not
    sky-rocketed either, I guess it has stayed
    pretty much the same.

    In Finland we have strict laws and the problems
    with the so-called hard drugs are getting worse
    and worse. The prohibition does not work at all
    but our politicians are too stupid to make
    rational decisions.

    By the way, I absolutely despise all kinds of
    opioids/opiates but it is a sad fact that
    some losers want to use them.

    While in a hospital back in 2000, I was given a
    morphine injection after a surgery. What a horrible
    drug! Yes, it took the pain away, so it worked that
    way. But the fucking psychological effects.... Oh no!
    Who wants to be like a fucking zombie? That's fucking
    disgusting and addiction develops very quickly!

    All drugs should be legalized, and their production
    and sale should be taken away from the criminals.
    The countries should sell them just like booze and
    tobacco.

    Drug business is the second largest business in
    the world, right after selling weapons. Now all
    the money goes to the pockets of criminals. War
    on Drugs has lasted something like 60 years and
    has been a total failure.

    br,
    KK

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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Fri Jun 30 20:53:14 2023
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    Where I live, "personal consumption" amounts of the following drugs
    are *decriminalized": heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine (all forms),
    fentanyl, LSD, organic hallucinogens such as peyote and mushrooms. I
    would guess that pretty much every drug that you've heard of as "recreational" falls within this category, although there is currently
    some pushback re fentanayl.

    What decriminalization means is that at worst, if in possession of
    say, a gram of heroin or fentanyl, a cop can issue to you a ticket
    with a maximum fee of $100, and if you call a hotline for reference to
    a treatment center, the fine is waived. If you don't call and don't
    pay the fee, nothing is done, so the cops seldom write tickets at this
    point.

    All forms of cannabis are legal and can be purchased from dedicated storefronts.

    Do you have any personal experience in living in, or visiting, a place
    like that?

    Boy I feel sorry for you. It sounds like you live in a complete
    hellhole :( I think it could be a good cautionary tale for rst
    though... "Don't fuck up your life like old Sawfish did or you too will
    spend your last days in a waking nightmare fighting off tattooed freaks, druggers and, <gasp> vegans!" :)

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sun Jul 2 14:28:13 2023
    On Friday, 30 June 2023 at 16:17:42 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
    On 6/30/23 5:22 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:
    your Democrat scumbags are in power, you maroon! also they far worse, lie far more than the Repubs eg. they even say a man in a dress = a woman, they so crooked the DOJ even gave HUNTER BIDEN special treatment! so you're just a government shill,
    comrade! LOL
    The Democrats are stupid assholes, that is true.
    But the fucking Republicans are even worse. They
    seriously suck ass.

    Similarly USA is a seriously fucked up nation, but
    fucking Russia and fucking China are even worse.
    Russia and China are not even worth criticism, as
    they are full of shit and cannot be repaired.
    Those fucking hellholes should be destroyed
    altogether.

    On the other hand, I think USA has *tiny chances*
    of improving, so it is worth criticizing. They
    have already legalized weed in many states
    and psilocybin is now gaining acceptance, too.
    That is good a sign and positive development, bro.
    Where I live, "personal consumption" amounts of the following drugs are *decriminalized": heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine (all forms),
    fentanyl, LSD, organic hallucinogens such as peyote and mushrooms. I
    would guess that pretty much every drug that you've heard of as "recreational" falls within this category, although there is currently
    some pushback re fentanayl.

    What decriminalization means is that at worst, if in possession of say,
    a gram of heroin or fentanyl, a cop can issue to you a ticket with a
    maximum fee of $100, and if you call a hotline for reference to a
    treatment center, the fine is waived. If you don't call and don't pay
    the fee, nothing is done, so the cops seldom write tickets at this point.

    All forms of cannabis are legal and can be purchased from dedicated storefronts.

    Do you have any personal experience in living in, or visiting, a place
    like that?

    oh this isn't fair Kavie has clearly got zero experience and is very young, so everything is "ideal" cos the MSM leftist scumbags tell him that's how it is, like they did with that CHAZ murder zone, he even says "the USA is tewible" like all teens do
    whilst copying/buying everything USA throws at him, like massively supporting all the current trans, "I identify as a squirrel" BLM nonsense.

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Sun Jul 2 21:49:28 2023
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 30 June 2023 at 17:29:36 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Do you have any personal experience in
    living in, or visiting, a place like that?
    No, but I have heard that Portugal in Europe
    decriminalized all drugs long ago. So you can use
    whatever you want there without penalties. The
    problems related to certain drugs have not
    increased. The amount of drug users has not
    sky-rocketed either, I guess it has stayed
    pretty much the same.

    oh yes the problems HAVE hugely increased! drug driving crimes for starters, drug driving crashes have sky-rocketted, it's a disaster.

    That's what the american communists say. Here are the real facts:

    https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug-decriminalisation-in-portugal-setting-the-record-straight

    In Finland we have strict laws and the problems
    with the so-called hard drugs are getting worse
    and worse. The prohibition does not work at all
    but our politicians are too stupid to make
    rational decisions.

    yes cos dealers push hard drugs once you go soft on dope, it's what they do, it's their job so to speak. You have this really odd idea drug deals are nice people instead of evil, criminal gangsters, they just move onto whatever they can sell next eg.
    meth, crack, guns etc. Amsterdam this year just banned tourists from smoking dope after years of trouble cos of this!

    Alcohol is among the worst hard drugs there is. Most countries
    sell that shit with a straight face. They tried to ban it
    in USA and Finland way back in the 1920-1930s. Didn't work out.

    The stupid policitians did not learn anything at all.

    By the way, I absolutely despise all kinds of
    opioids/opiates but it is a sad fact that
    some losers want to use them.

    well your dope dealer doubtless sells heroin and by buying from him you're actively helping him sell that other stuff.

    I don't care about what other people use. If I could buy
    legal weed in Finland, I would.

    While in a hospital back in 2000, I was given a
    morphine injection after a surgery. What a horrible
    drug! Yes, it took the pain away, so it worked that
    way. But the fucking psychological effects.... Oh no!
    Who wants to be like a fucking zombie? That's fucking
    disgusting and addiction develops very quickly!

    All drugs should be legalized, and their production
    and sale should be taken away from the criminals.
    The countries should sell them just like booze and
    tobacco.

    good luck on that one, why don't you go visit San Francisco or like sawfish said, Portland? go on, take a look there where they've done that LOL

    San Francisco is just fine. I don't know
    about Portland.

    Besides, I guess there is some decriminalization
    going on in those places. That is just step one,
    the countries also have to sell the damn drugs
    so that they get money to take care of possible
    problems.

    Drug business is the second largest business in
    the world, right after selling weapons. Now all
    the money goes to the pockets of criminals. War
    on Drugs has lasted something like 60 years and
    has been a total failure.

    yes cos it's been so badly done and is so corrupt. The politicians only care about votes so it very sad, like the maroon Islamic mayor of London who's done nothing about knifecrime, despite some black "community" leaders actually trying their best to
    tell him what would help against the gangs, we're talking genuinely good advice from guys who work with black gang youths and still he takes no notice. He only cares about saying buzzwords to get more votes, blaming the police and/or promoting Pride-type
    events, still bizarrely the black "community" doesn't seem to care, they just keep voting for him anyway.

    I agree that most politicians are quite awful.

    br,
    KK

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Sun Jul 2 14:37:10 2023
    On Friday, 30 June 2023 at 17:29:36 UTC+1, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Do you have any personal experience in
    living in, or visiting, a place like that?
    No, but I have heard that Portugal in Europe
    decriminalized all drugs long ago. So you can use
    whatever you want there without penalties. The
    problems related to certain drugs have not
    increased. The amount of drug users has not
    sky-rocketed either, I guess it has stayed
    pretty much the same.

    oh yes the problems HAVE hugely increased! drug driving crimes for starters, drug driving crashes have sky-rocketted, it's a disaster.

    In Finland we have strict laws and the problems
    with the so-called hard drugs are getting worse
    and worse. The prohibition does not work at all
    but our politicians are too stupid to make
    rational decisions.

    yes cos dealers push hard drugs once you go soft on dope, it's what they do, it's their job so to speak. You have this really odd idea drug deals are nice people instead of evil, criminal gangsters, they just move onto whatever they can sell next eg.
    meth, crack, guns etc. Amsterdam this year just banned tourists from smoking dope after years of trouble cos of this!

    By the way, I absolutely despise all kinds of
    opioids/opiates but it is a sad fact that
    some losers want to use them.

    well your dope dealer doubtless sells heroin and by buying from him you're actively helping him sell that other stuff.

    While in a hospital back in 2000, I was given a
    morphine injection after a surgery. What a horrible
    drug! Yes, it took the pain away, so it worked that
    way. But the fucking psychological effects.... Oh no!
    Who wants to be like a fucking zombie? That's fucking
    disgusting and addiction develops very quickly!

    All drugs should be legalized, and their production
    and sale should be taken away from the criminals.
    The countries should sell them just like booze and
    tobacco.

    good luck on that one, why don't you go visit San Francisco or like sawfish said, Portland? go on, take a look there where they've done that LOL

    Drug business is the second largest business in
    the world, right after selling weapons. Now all
    the money goes to the pockets of criminals. War
    on Drugs has lasted something like 60 years and
    has been a total failure.

    yes cos it's been so badly done and is so corrupt. The politicians only care about votes so it very sad, like the maroon Islamic mayor of London who's done nothing about knifecrime, despite some black "community" leaders actually trying their best to
    tell him what would help against the gangs, we're talking genuinely good advice from guys who work with black gang youths and still he takes no notice. He only cares about saying buzzwords to get more votes, blaming the police and/or promoting Pride-type
    events, still bizarrely the black "community" doesn't seem to care, they just keep voting for him anyway.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to well the stuff you on Sun Jul 2 14:29:13 2023
    On Friday, 30 June 2023 at 16:39:30 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 30.6.2023 18.17, Sawfish wrote:
    On 6/30/23 5:22 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:
    your Democrat scumbags are in power, you maroon! also they far worse, >>> lie far more than the Repubs eg. they even say a man in a dress = a
    woman, they so crooked the DOJ even gave HUNTER BIDEN special
    treatment! so you're just a government shill, comrade! LOL
    The Democrats are stupid assholes, that is true.
    But the fucking Republicans are even worse. They
    seriously suck ass.

    Similarly USA is a seriously fucked up nation, but
    fucking Russia and fucking China are even worse.
    Russia and China are not even worth criticism, as
    they are full of shit and cannot be repaired.
    Those fucking hellholes should be destroyed
    altogether.

    On the other hand, I think USA has *tiny chances*
    of improving, so it is worth criticizing. They
    have already legalized weed in many states
    and psilocybin is now gaining acceptance, too.
    That is good a sign and positive development, bro.

    Where I live, "personal consumption" amounts of the following drugs are *decriminalized": heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine (all forms),
    fentanyl, LSD, organic hallucinogens such as peyote and mushrooms. I
    would guess that pretty much every drug that you've heard of as "recreational" falls within this category, although there is currently some pushback re fentanayl.

    What decriminalization means is that at worst, if in possession of say,
    a gram of heroin or fentanyl, a cop can issue to you a ticket with a maximum fee of $100, and if you call a hotline for reference to a treatment center, the fine is waived. If you don't call and don't pay
    the fee, nothing is done, so the cops seldom write tickets at this point.

    All forms of cannabis are legal and can be purchased from dedicated storefronts.

    Do you have any personal experience in living in, or visiting, a place like that?
    Reminds me of another question you once asked me. "Have you ever talked
    to one (a black man)?" Meaning, if you ever had, you would understand ...

    well the stuff you write, surely that's a very bonefide question? you can't talk endlessly about black ppl and what they think/want when you've never met or spoke to any of them. Course now we know you're just like Raja who lives in 100% RepubliKKan full-
    of-guns-and-old-white men safe & nice Texas.

    Whatta hellhole.

    thanks for using a true Trumpism!

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Sun Jul 2 21:52:28 2023
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:
    oh this isn't fair Kavie has clearly got zero experience and is very young, so everything is "ideal" cos the MSM leftist scumbags tell him that's how it is, like they did with that CHAZ murder zone, he even says "the USA is tewible" like all teens do
    whilst copying/buying everything USA throws at him, like massively supporting all the current trans, "I identify as a squirrel" BLM nonsense.

    Holy shit, your delusions are so bad it is even difficult to
    figure out what that shit is supposed to mean.

    I wouldn't be too surprised if the USA collapsed pretty soon.

    br,
    KK

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