*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, playerinterviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023,3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on publicperception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value ofother three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to
*skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This
*skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/
*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:01:26 PM
And what's the value of Olympics and ATP Finals if Wimbledon is worth 7 PTS and other grand slam tournaments are worth 6 PTS?
ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:01:39 PMgenerally considered to be:
The value of the Olympics and ATP Finals can also be subjective and vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the points values of the Olympics and ATP Finals are
1. Olympics: 4 PTS - The Olympics is a unique event that takes place every four years and is highly prestigious. However, it is not solely a tennis event, and many top players have skipped the tournament in the past due to scheduling conflicts or otherreasons. As a result, the Olympics is generally seen as being worth slightly fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments.
2. ATP Finals: 5 PTS - The ATP Finals is the season-ending tournament for the top eight players in the world rankings. It is highly prestigious and is viewed as a major title in its own right. However, it is not a Grand Slam tournament, and someplayers may prioritize the Grand Slam events over the ATP Finals. As a result, the ATP Finals is generally considered to be worth slightly fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments, but more points than the Olympics.
Again, it's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may value the Olympics or the ATP Finals more highly than others, based on factors such as their personalpreferences, the performance of their favorite players, or other factors. Ultimately, the value of each tournament is determined by a complex set of factors, including its history, tradition, prestige, and the challenges it presents to players.
*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:04:49 PM
Are you sure about that? Olympics and ATP Finals are not played in best of 5 format and could be worth significantly less than grand slam tournaments.
ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:05:05 PMstamina and endurance, which is why winning a Grand Slam title is considered a significant achievement in tennis.
You are correct that the fact that the Olympics and ATP Finals are not played in the best-of-five format can be a factor that reduces their value compared to the Grand Slam tournaments. The best-of-five format requires greater physical and mental
However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition,
Based on these factors, many people still consider the Olympics and ATP Finals to be highly prestigious and valuable tournaments. For example, winning a gold medal at the Olympics is a significant achievement in any sport, and the ATP Finals featuresthe top eight players in the world and is considered one of the most prestigious tournaments in men's tennis.
Ultimately, the point values of different tournaments are subjective and can vary based on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the points values of the Olympics and ATP Finals aregenerally considered to be slightly lower than the Grand Slam tournaments, but still highly valuable and prestigious.
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However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition...On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:06:24 PM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:
hahahaha
joh <josh...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition...On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:06:24 PM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:
hahahaha
The level of competition matters somewhat as we've said and everyone recognizes it, but joh you're barking at the wrong tree.
Regarding competition, what matters most is where are the best players, and in the 60s, Australian championships had the best players, best players were Australians and they played there at home.
Who is more important for the prestige of the tournament and the level of competition, Laver, Rosewall, Emerson, Newcombe... or some American journeymen who couldn't win US or any other title in that period?
They skipped Australia and therefore the tournament was not as prestigious, despite all the Aussie greats being there, greats who won 30 out of 40 slams in that decade?
I think you're conflating 60s and the 70s when AO clearly lost prestige. No?
But even then, when there's a clear case of lost prestige, as Whisper says, it's kinda unfair to those who don't win it or skip it. History won't care.
Slams have enough weight and legacy and they can endure brown patches and lesser winners. In the end, slams never lose, it's like a house in gambling.
Only those who don't win lose.
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On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:04:10 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:> joh <josh...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> >> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:06:24 PM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:> However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by theformat of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition... > > > hahahaha > > > The level of competition matters somewhat as we've said and everyone recognizes it, but joh you're barking at the wrong tree. > >
"gap...@gmail.com" <gap...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:rformat of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition... > > > hahahaha > > > The level of competition matters somewhat as we've said and everyone recognizes it, but joh you're barking at the wrong tree. > >
On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:04:10 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:> joh <josh...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> >> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:06:24 PM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:> However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the
Emmo won double CGS.
He won 6 in Australia and 2 each elsewhere.
Why couldn't some American or French stop him if he sucked that much?
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*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PM
If Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.
ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMplayers and fans alike.
Based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:
1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.
2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts, which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by
3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it adifficult environment for players to compete in.
It's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.
For YEC, OG and Master Series tournament chatpot is just using ATP points scheme.
YEC max 1500p vs 2000p
Master serie 1000p vs 2000p
OG (once it gave ranking points and it was 750p)
It correctly puts Wimb ahead of others.
Sidenote: I btw use 6554 and 2 for YEC/OG and 1 for MS ... and 4 for Year-end #1. (I have a little excel-based toying tool for speculations and "woulda-coulda-shoulda" scenarios)
.mikko
On 20/06/2023 11:56 pm, *skriptis wrote:
Very interesting. My 1st criteria when devising 7543 was;
1) Wimbledon plus any other slam can't be beaten in that year. 7666
works there.
My 2nd criteria was a question; 'is 1 Wimbledon title more prestigious
than 2 AO titles?'. My thinking was always 'yes, but 3 AO titles is
better than 1 Wimbledon'.
7543 fits, but not 7666. So the question is was I wrong in thinking 1 Wimbledon beats 2 AOs?
I'll post a list comparing 7543 to 7666 and see if it feels right : )
On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:48:16 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition... > > > hahahaha > > > The level of competition matters somewhat as we've said and everyone recognizes it, but joh you're barking at the wrong tree. > >
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On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:04:10 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:> joh <josh...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> >> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:06:24 PM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:> However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the
Emmo won double CGS.
He won 6 in Australia and 2 each elsewhere.
Why couldn't some American or French stop him if he sucked that much?
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On 21/06/2023 7:36 pm, Whisper wrote:> On 20/06/2023 11:56 pm, *skriptis wrote:>>> > > Very interesting. My 1st criteria when devising 7543 was;> > 1) Wimbledon plus any other slam can't be beaten in that year. 7666 > works there.> > My 2nd criteriawas a question; 'is 1 Wimbledon title more prestigious > than 2 AO titles?'. My thinking was always 'yes, but 3 AO titles is > better than 1 Wimbledon'.> > 7543 fits, but not 7666. So the question is was I wrong in thinking 1 > Wimbledon beats 2 AOs?> >
*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, playerinterviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023,3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament
For me all I look at for goat comparison is the slams, yr-end No.1 and Olympic gold. I don't hold it against a player for not winning gold as
it's 1 event over 4 yrs (16 chances at a slam title in same period), but
I do credit a player who wins it. I think chatgpt will evolve to this
level of thinking, otherwise you could have the bizarre scenario of a
player who wins no slams but does win eg 50 ATP 1000's be considered the
all time goat. Wouldn't reflect real world thinking.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on publicperception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the
On 21.6.2023 21.13, *skriptis wrote:perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the
PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public
Wow, isn't that a bit too hard?
I realized you need to guide it through the process.
I couldn't have asked about ATP 1000 vs slams ratio right away.
I started slowly so it could be comfortable.Basically, you was red-pilling it. (Or was it blue-pilling. NOt really
in my vocabulary, so couldn't care less)
*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PM
If Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.
ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMplayers and fans alike.
Based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:
1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.
2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts, which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by
3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it adifficult environment for players to compete in.
It's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.
*skriptis kirjoitti 20.6.2023 klo 16.56:> > *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PM> > If Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.> > > > ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PM> > Based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:> > 1. Australian Open: 6 PTS -
*skriptis kirjoitti 10.7.2023 klo 1.02:
TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the
four Grand Slam tournaments.> > Well, we could also call it
WhisperGPT...I reckon it steals some of its material from RST,
especially on this topic.
No as I explained in one of the posts in this thread, I feel ChatGPT
is nominally 1111 but gives an edge to Wimbledon?
Therefore since I said Wimbledon is 7 PTS, it put Wimbledon ahead of
others but as close as it can be to 1111, therefore 7666.
I assume if I had said Wimbledon is 5 or 10, I'd get 5444 or 10999.
Probably. It's what and how you ask it. But it does get its material somewhere, since it doesn't have real intelligence.
On 10/07/2023 8:17 am, TT wrote:
*skriptis kirjoitti 10.7.2023 klo 1.02:
TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the
four Grand Slam tournaments.> > Well, we could also call it
WhisperGPT...I reckon it steals some of its material from RST,
especially on this topic.
No as I explained in one of the posts in this thread, I feel ChatGPT
is nominally 1111 but gives an edge to Wimbledon?
Therefore since I said Wimbledon is 7 PTS, it put Wimbledon ahead of
others but as close as it can be to 1111, therefore 7666.
I assume if I had said Wimbledon is 5 or 10, I'd get 5444 or 10999.
Probably. It's what and how you ask it. But it does get its material
somewhere, since it doesn't have real intelligence.
So it chooses the most intelligent sources.
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