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    From *skriptis@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 20 15:56:05 2023
    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PM

    If Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.



    ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PM

    Based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:

    1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.

    2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts, which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by
    players and fans alike.

    3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a
    difficult environment for players to compete in.

    It's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.


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    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player
    interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the
    year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts, which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the
    surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by players and fans alike.3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid
    conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a difficult environment for players to compete in.It's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on
    individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.
    html





    *skriptis: 6/20/2023, 3:56:55 PM

    Is perhaps French Open second most valuable due to unique surface?



    ChatGPT: 6/20/2023, 3:57:39 PM

    Yes, the French Open is often considered the second most valuable Grand Slam tournament due to its unique surface. Unlike the other three Grand Slam tournaments, which are played on hard courts or grass courts, the French Open is played on clay courts.
    Clay court tennis requires a different set of skills and strategies than other surfaces, such as the ability to slide and move effectively on the surface and the ability to construct points in a way that takes advantage of the slower court speed.

    Winning the French Open is considered a significant achievement in tennis, as it requires a player to be able to adapt their game to the unique demands of the surface. Additionally, the French Open is often viewed as a test of a player's mental toughness,
    as the long rallies and slower court speed can make it a physically and mentally demanding tournament.

    Overall, the combination of the unique surface, the history and tradition of the tournament, and the challenges it presents to players make the French Open a highly valued event in the tennis world.



    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:57:32 PM

    So what's the value of French Open if Wimbledon is 7 pts



    ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:57:39 PM

    As mentioned earlier, based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the French Open is generally considered to be worth 6 points in comparison to the Wimbledon title. This is due to the unique challenges and demands of the clay court
    surface, as well as the history and tradition of the tournament.

    However, it's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may value the French Open more highly than others, based on factors such as their personal preferences, the
    performance of their favorite players, or other factors. Ultimately, the value of each Grand Slam tournament is determined by a complex set of factors, including its history, tradition, prestige, and the challenges it presents to players.




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    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023,
    3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament
    is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts, which can be
    challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by players and fans alike.3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most physically
    demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a difficult environment for players to compete in.It's important to note that these
    point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html*skriptis: 6/20/2023, 3:56:55 PMIs perhaps French Open second most valuable due to unique surface?ChatGPT: 6/20/2023, 3:57:39 PMYes, the French Open is often considered the second most valuable
    Grand Slam tournament due to its unique surface. Unlike the other three Grand Slam tournaments, which are played on hard courts or grass courts, the French Open is played on clay courts. Clay court tennis requires a different set of skills and strategies
    than other surfaces, such as the ability to slide and move effectively on the surface and the ability to construct points in a way that takes advantage of the slower court speed.Winning the French Open is considered a significant achievement in tennis,
    as it requires a player to be able to adapt their game to the unique demands of the surface. Additionally, the French Open is often viewed as a test of a player's mental toughness, as the long rallies and slower court speed can make it a physically and
    mentally demanding tournament.Overall, the combination of the unique surface, the history and tradition of the tournament, and the challenges it presents to players make the French Open a highly valued event in the tennis world.*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:57:
    32 PMSo what's the value of French Open if Wimbledon is 7 ptsChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:57:39 PMAs mentioned earlier, based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the French Open is generally considered to be worth 6 points in comparison
    to the Wimbledon title. This is due to the unique challenges and demands of the clay court surface, as well as the history and tradition of the tournament. However, it's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on
    individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may value the French Open more highly than others, based on factors such as their personal preferences, the performance of their favorite players, or other factors. Ultimately, the value of each Grand
    Slam tournament is determined by a complex set of factors, including its history, tradition, prestige, and the challenges it presents to players.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html




    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:01:26 PM

    And what's the value of Olympics and ATP Finals if Wimbledon is worth 7 PTS and other grand slam tournaments are worth 6 PTS?


    ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:01:39 PM

    The value of the Olympics and ATP Finals can also be subjective and vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the points values of the Olympics and ATP Finals are
    generally considered to be:

    1. Olympics: 4 PTS - The Olympics is a unique event that takes place every four years and is highly prestigious. However, it is not solely a tennis event, and many top players have skipped the tournament in the past due to scheduling conflicts or other
    reasons. As a result, the Olympics is generally seen as being worth slightly fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments.

    2. ATP Finals: 5 PTS - The ATP Finals is the season-ending tournament for the top eight players in the world rankings. It is highly prestigious and is viewed as a major title in its own right. However, it is not a Grand Slam tournament, and some players
    may prioritize the Grand Slam events over the ATP Finals. As a result, the ATP Finals is generally considered to be worth slightly fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments, but more points than the Olympics.

    Again, it's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may value the Olympics or the ATP Finals more highly than others, based on factors such as their personal
    preferences, the performance of their favorite players, or other factors. Ultimately, the value of each tournament is determined by a complex set of factors, including its history, tradition, prestige, and the challenges it presents to players.




    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:04:49 PM

    Are you sure about that? Olympics and ATP Finals are not played in best of 5 format and could be worth significantly less than grand slam tournaments.


    ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:05:05 PM

    You are correct that the fact that the Olympics and ATP Finals are not played in the best-of-five format can be a factor that reduces their value compared to the Grand Slam tournaments. The best-of-five format requires greater physical and mental stamina
    and endurance, which is why winning a Grand Slam title is considered a significant achievement in tennis.

    However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition, and the history and tradition of the tournament can also influence its value.

    Based on these factors, many people still consider the Olympics and ATP Finals to be highly prestigious and valuable tournaments. For example, winning a gold medal at the Olympics is a significant achievement in any sport, and the ATP Finals features the
    top eight players in the world and is considered one of the most prestigious tournaments in men's tennis.

    Ultimately, the point values of different tournaments are subjective and can vary based on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the points values of the Olympics and ATP Finals are
    generally considered to be slightly lower than the Grand Slam tournaments, but still highly valuable and prestigious.



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    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public
    perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the
    Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique
    in that it is played on clay courts, which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by players and fans alike.3. US Open: 6 PTS - This
    tournament is often viewed as the most physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a difficult environment for
    players to compete in.It's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand
    Slam tournaments.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html*skriptis: 6/20/2023, 3:56:55 PMIs perhaps French Open second most valuable due to unique surface?ChatGPT: 6/20/2023, 3:57:39 PMYes, the
    French Open is often considered the second most valuable Grand Slam tournament due to its unique surface. Unlike the other three Grand Slam tournaments, which are played on hard courts or grass courts, the French Open is played on clay courts. Clay court
    tennis requires a different set of skills and strategies than other surfaces, such as the ability to slide and move effectively on the surface and the ability to construct points in a way that takes advantage of the slower court speed.Winning the French
    Open is considered a significant achievement in tennis, as it requires a player to be able to adapt their game to the unique demands of the surface. Additionally, the French Open is often viewed as a test of a player's mental toughness, as the long
    rallies and slower court speed can make it a physically and mentally demanding tournament.Overall, the combination of the unique surface, the history and tradition of the tournament, and the challenges it presents to players make the French Open a highly
    valued event in the tennis world.*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:57:32 PMSo what's the value of French Open if Wimbledon is 7 ptsChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:57:39 PMAs mentioned earlier, based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the French Open
    is generally considered to be worth 6 points in comparison to the Wimbledon title. This is due to the unique challenges and demands of the clay court surface, as well as the history and tradition of the tournament. However, it's important to note that
    these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may value the French Open more highly than others, based on factors such as their personal preferences, the performance of their favorite
    players, or other factors. Ultimately, the value of each Grand Slam tournament is determined by a complex set of factors, including its history, tradition, prestige, and the challenges it presents to players.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://
    piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:01:26 PMAnd what's the value of Olympics and ATP Finals if Wimbledon is worth 7 PTS and other grand slam tournaments are worth 6 PTS?ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:01:39 PMThe value of
    the Olympics and ATP Finals can also be subjective and vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the points values of the Olympics and ATP Finals are generally considered
    to be:1. Olympics: 4 PTS - The Olympics is a unique event that takes place every four years and is highly prestigious. However, it is not solely a tennis event, and many top players have skipped the tournament in the past due to scheduling conflicts or
    other reasons. As a result, the Olympics is generally seen as being worth slightly fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments.2. ATP Finals: 5 PTS - The ATP Finals is the season-ending tournament for the top eight players in the world rankings. It is
    highly prestigious and is viewed as a major title in its own right. However, it is not a Grand Slam tournament, and some players may prioritize the Grand Slam events over the ATP Finals. As a result, the ATP Finals is generally considered to be worth
    slightly fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments, but more points than the Olympics.Again, it's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may value the
    Olympics or the ATP Finals more highly than others, based on factors such as their personal preferences, the performance of their favorite players, or other factors. Ultimately, the value of each tournament is determined by a complex set of factors,
    including its history, tradition, prestige, and the challenges it presents to players.*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:04:49 PMAre you sure about that? Olympics and ATP Finals are not played in best of 5 format and could be worth significantly less than grand
    slam tournaments.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:05:05 PMYou are correct that the fact that the Olympics and ATP Finals are not played in the best-of-five format can be a factor that reduces their value compared to the Grand Slam tournaments. The best-of-five
    format requires greater physical and mental stamina and endurance, which is why winning a Grand Slam title is considered a significant achievement in tennis.However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the format of the matches. Other
    factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition, and the history and tradition of the tournament can also influence its value. Based on these factors, many people still consider the Olympics and ATP Finals to be highly prestigious and
    valuable tournaments. For example, winning a gold medal at the Olympics is a significant achievement in any sport, and the ATP Finals features the top eight players in the world and is considered one of the most prestigious tournaments in men's tennis.
    Ultimately, the point values of different tournaments are subjective and can vary based on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the points values of the Olympics and ATP Finals are
    generally considered to be slightly lower than the Grand Slam tournaments, but still highly valuable and prestigious.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html




    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:08:28 PM

    And what's the value of ATP masters 1000 tournaments if Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, the other grand slam tournaments being worth 6 PTS, Olympics being 4 and ATP Finals being worth 5 PTS.


    ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:12:30 PM

    The ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are also highly prestigious events on the men's tennis calendar. These tournaments are played on hard courts and clay courts, and feature the top players in the world competing against each other in a series of nine
    events throughout the year.

    In terms of point values, the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are generally considered to be worth fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments, but more points than the Olympics and some other tournaments. Based on public perception and the opinions of
    many players, the point value of the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments is generally considered to be:

    3. ATP Masters 1000: 4 or 5 PTS - The point value of the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may consider them to be worth 4 points, while others may consider them to be worth 5 points.
    However, they are generally considered to be highly valuable and prestigious tournaments, as they feature the top players in the world competing against each other in a series of events throughout the year.

    Overall, the point values of different tournaments are subjective and can vary based on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are generally considered
    to be highly valuable and prestigious events, but worth fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments.


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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Tue Jun 20 16:17:57 2023
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of
    other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to
    be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.
    2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts, which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by
    players and fans alike.3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds,
    which can make it a difficult environment for players to compete in.It's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are
    commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html*skriptis: 6/20/2023, 3:56:55 PMIs perhaps French Open second most valuable due to unique
    surface?ChatGPT: 6/20/2023, 3:57:39 PMYes, the French Open is often considered the second most valuable Grand Slam tournament due to its unique surface. Unlike the other three Grand Slam tournaments, which are played on hard courts or grass courts, the
    French Open is played on clay courts. Clay court tennis requires a different set of skills and strategies than other surfaces, such as the ability to slide and move effectively on the surface and the ability to construct points in a way that takes
    advantage of the slower court speed.Winning the French Open is considered a significant achievement in tennis, as it requires a player to be able to adapt their game to the unique demands of the surface. Additionally, the French Open is often viewed as a
    test of a player's mental toughness, as the long rallies and slower court speed can make it a physically and mentally demanding tournament.Overall, the combination of the unique surface, the history and tradition of the tournament, and the challenges it
    presents to players make the French Open a highly valued event in the tennis world.*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:57:32 PMSo what's the value of French Open if Wimbledon is 7 ptsChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:57:39 PMAs mentioned earlier, based on public perception,
    player interviews, and other factors, the French Open is generally considered to be worth 6 points in comparison to the Wimbledon title. This is due to the unique challenges and demands of the clay court surface, as well as the history and tradition of
    the tournament. However, it's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may value the French Open more highly than others, based on factors such as their personal
    preferences, the performance of their favorite players, or other factors. Ultimately, the value of each Grand Slam tournament is determined by a complex set of factors, including its history, tradition, prestige, and the challenges it presents to players.
    -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:01:26 PMAnd what's the value of Olympics and ATP Finals if Wimbledon is worth 7 PTS and other grand slam tournaments are worth 6 PTS?
    ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:01:39 PMThe value of the Olympics and ATP Finals can also be subjective and vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the points values of the
    Olympics and ATP Finals are generally considered to be:1. Olympics: 4 PTS - The Olympics is a unique event that takes place every four years and is highly prestigious. However, it is not solely a tennis event, and many top players have skipped the
    tournament in the past due to scheduling conflicts or other reasons. As a result, the Olympics is generally seen as being worth slightly fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments.2. ATP Finals: 5 PTS - The ATP Finals is the season-ending tournament
    for the top eight players in the world rankings. It is highly prestigious and is viewed as a major title in its own right. However, it is not a Grand Slam tournament, and some players may prioritize the Grand Slam events over the ATP Finals. As a result,
    the ATP Finals is generally considered to be worth slightly fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments, but more points than the Olympics.Again, it's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions
    and perspectives. Some people may value the Olympics or the ATP Finals more highly than others, based on factors such as their personal preferences, the performance of their favorite players, or other factors. Ultimately, the value of each tournament is
    determined by a complex set of factors, including its history, tradition, prestige, and the challenges it presents to players.*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:04:49 PMAre you sure about that? Olympics and ATP Finals are not played in best of 5 format and could be
    worth significantly less than grand slam tournaments.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:05:05 PMYou are correct that the fact that the Olympics and ATP Finals are not played in the best-of-five format can be a factor that reduces their value compared to the Grand
    Slam tournaments. The best-of-five format requires greater physical and mental stamina and endurance, which is why winning a Grand Slam title is considered a significant achievement in tennis.However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by
    the format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition, and the history and tradition of the tournament can also influence its value. Based on these factors, many people still consider the Olympics and ATP
    Finals to be highly prestigious and valuable tournaments. For example, winning a gold medal at the Olympics is a significant achievement in any sport, and the ATP Finals features the top eight players in the world and is considered one of the most
    prestigious tournaments in men's tennis.Ultimately, the point values of different tournaments are subjective and can vary based on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the points
    values of the Olympics and ATP Finals are generally considered to be slightly lower than the Grand Slam tournaments, but still highly valuable and prestigious.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.
    html*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:08:28 PMAnd what's the value of ATP masters 1000 tournaments if Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, the other grand slam tournaments being worth 6 PTS, Olympics being 4 and ATP Finals being worth 5 PTS.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:12:30
    PMThe ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are also highly prestigious events on the men's tennis calendar. These tournaments are played on hard courts and clay courts, and feature the top players in the world competing against each other in a series of nine
    events throughout the year.In terms of point values, the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are generally considered to be worth fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments, but more points than the Olympics and some other tournaments. Based on public
    perception and the opinions of many players, the point value of the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments is generally considered to be:3. ATP Masters 1000: 4 or 5 PTS - The point value of the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments can vary depending on individual opinions
    and perspectives. Some people may consider them to be worth 4 points, while others may consider them to be worth 5 points. However, they are generally considered to be highly valuable and prestigious tournaments, as they feature the top players in the
    world competing against each other in a series of events throughout the year.Overall, the point values of different tournaments are subjective and can vary based on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the
    opinions of many players, the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are generally considered to be highly valuable and prestigious events, but worth fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.
    amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html




    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:10:19 PM

    So based on this, winning 20 ATP 1000 masters titles is more worth than winning 10 grand slam titles? But I think 10 grand slam titles is better result for players legacy.



    ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:12:30 PM

    You are correct that winning 10 Grand Slam titles is generally considered a more significant achievement in tennis and has a greater impact on a player's legacy than winning 20 ATP Masters 1000 titles.

    While the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are highly prestigious and valuable events, they are not considered to be on the same level as the Grand Slam tournaments in terms of historical significance, tradition, and overall importance in the sport of tennis.
    Winning a Grand Slam title requires winning seven best-of-five matches against the best players in the world, which is a significant challenge that requires both physical and mental endurance.

    Winning multiple Grand Slam titles is a rare and impressive feat that only a few players have accomplished, and it is generally considered the ultimate measure of a player's success and legacy in the sport.

    In contrast, winning multiple ATP Masters 1000 titles is certainly a notable achievement, but it is not considered to be on the same level as winning a Grand Slam title. The ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are played over a shorter period of time, and while
    they feature many of the top players in the world, they do not have the same level of historical significance and prestige as the Grand Slam tournaments.

    In conclusion, while winning 20 ATP Masters 1000 titles is certainly a remarkable achievement, it is generally considered to be less significant than winning 10 Grand Slam titles in terms of a player's legacy and impact on the sport of tennis.



    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:12:01 PM

    So if we are interested only in long-term legacy, and if Wimbledon is worth 7 points, what's the valid of Australian Open, French Open, US Open, Olympics, ATP Finals and ATP 1000 masters titles? Only legacy matters


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    6/18/2023, 10:22:14 PM
    What's the best model for betting on tennis
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    6/18/2023, 10:22:21 PM
    As an AI language model, I cannot provide opinions or personal preferences. However, there are several popular models for betting on tennis, including:

    1. Statistical models: These models use historical data and statistics to predict the outcome of a match. Factors such as player rankings, recent form, head-to-head records, and surface preferences are taken into account.

    2. Expert opinion models: These models rely on the predictions and insights of tennis experts, such as former players or coaches. They are often used in combination with statistical models.

    3. Machine learning models: These models use algorithms and artificial intelligence to analyze large datasets and make predictions. They can be trained on a variety of factors, including player data, match statistics, and betting odds.

    Ultimately, the best model for betting on tennis will depend on your personal preferences and betting strategy. It's important to do your research and find a model that aligns with your goals and betting style.
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    6/18/2023, 10:23:06 PM
    What's the best strategy for tennis betting
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    6/18/2023, 10:23:19 PM
    As an AI language model, I cannot provide opinions or personal preferences. However, here are some general strategies that may be helpful for tennis betting:

    1. Study player form and head-to-head records: Look at how players have performed in recent matches and their records against each other. This can give you insights into which player is likely to win.

    2. Consider the surface: Different players perform better on different surfaces, so it's important to take this into account when betting. For example, Rafael Nadal is known for his dominance on clay courts, while Roger Federer has historically performed
    better on grass.

    3. Look for value in the odds: Don't just bet on the favorite - sometimes there is better value in betting on the underdog. Look for matches where the odds seem too high or too low based on the players' form and head-to-head records.

    4. Use a betting bankroll management strategy: This involves setting aside a specific amount of money for betting and only using a small percentage of it for each bet. This can help you avoid losing too much money on a single bet.

    5. Consider live betting: Live betting allows you to place bets while a match is in progress. This can be a good way to take advantage of changing odds or momentum shifts in the match.

    Remember, there is no single "best" strategy for tennis betting - it's important to do your research and find a strategy that works for you.
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    6/18/2023, 10:23:47 PM
    Is normal distribution useful for tennis betting
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    6/18/2023, 10:23:54 PM
    Normal distribution can be useful for tennis betting, as it is a statistical concept that can help you determine the likelihood of certain outcomes. For example, if you are betting on the total number of games in a match, you could use a normal
    distribution to estimate the probability of the match having a certain number of games.

    However, it's important to keep in mind that tennis matches are not always normally distributed. Factors such as player form, surface, and head-to-head records can all impact the distribution of outcomes. Additionally, normal distribution assumes that
    outcomes are independent, which may not always be the case in tennis.

    Therefore, while normal distribution can be a useful tool for tennis betting, it should be used in conjunction with other strategies and should not be relied on as the sole method for making betting decisions.
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    6/18/2023, 10:24:44 PM
    What's better and more useful for tennis betting, normal distribution or t distribution
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    6/18/2023, 10:24:51 PM
    Both normal distribution and t distribution can be useful for tennis betting, but their usefulness depends on the specific situation and the data being analyzed.

    Normal distribution assumes that the data is normally distributed, while t distribution assumes that the data follows a t-distribution. T distribution is used when the sample size is small or the population standard deviation is unknown. In tennis
    betting, t distribution may be useful when dealing with smaller sample sizes, such as when analyzing the performance of a player over a few matches.

    However, in most cases, normal distribution is more commonly used in tennis betting as it assumes a larger sample size and is more widely applicable. For example, normal distribution can be used to analyze the distribution of outcomes for a player over
    an entire season or for a specific tournament.

    Ultimately, the choice between normal distribution and t distribution will depend on the specific situation and the data being analyzed. It's important to have a good understanding of both concepts and when to use them to make informed betting decisions.
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    6/18/2023, 10:25:56 PM
    Who is Djokovic
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    6/18/2023, 10:26:05 PM
    Novak Djokovic is a professional tennis player from Serbia who is widely considered one of the greatest tennis players of all time. He was born on May 22, 1987, in Belgrade, Yugoslavia (now Serbia).

    Djokovic has won 20 Grand Slam singles titles, tying him with Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal for the most in men's tennis history. He has also won numerous other titles and awards throughout his career, including five ATP Finals titles, 36 ATP Tour
    Masters 1000 titles, and two Olympic medals (bronze in singles at the 2008 Beijing Olympics and a bronze in doubles at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics).

    Djokovic has been ranked world No. 1 by the Association of Tennis Professionals (ATP) a record total of 338 weeks, including a streak of 122 consecutive weeks from July 2014 to November 2016. He is known for his exceptional athleticism, mental toughness,
    and all-around game, and is widely regarded as one of the best returners in tennis history.
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    6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PM
    If Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.
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    6/20/2023, 4:12:30 PM
    Based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:

    1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.

    2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts, which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by
    players and fans alike.

    3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a
    difficult environment for players to compete in.

    It's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.
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    6/20/2023, 3:56:55 PM
    Is perhaps French Open second most valuable due to unique surface?
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    6/20/2023, 4:12:30 PM
    Yes, the French Open is often considered the second most valuable Grand Slam tournament due to its unique surface. Unlike the other three Grand Slam tournaments, which are played on hard courts or grass courts, the French Open is played on clay courts.
    Clay court tennis requires a different set of skills and strategies than other surfaces, such as the ability to slide and move effectively on the surface and the ability to construct points in a way that takes advantage of the slower court speed.

    Winning the French Open is considered a significant achievement in tennis, as it requires a player to be able to adapt their game to the unique demands of the surface. Additionally, the French Open is often viewed as a test of a player's mental toughness,
    as the long rallies and slower court speed can make it a physically and mentally demanding tournament.

    Overall, the combination of the unique surface, the history and tradition of the tournament, and the challenges it presents to players make the French Open a highly valued event in the tennis world.
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    6/20/2023, 3:57:32 PM
    So what's the value of French Open if Wimbledon is 7 pts
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    6/20/2023, 4:12:30 PM
    As mentioned earlier, based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the French Open is generally considered to be worth 6 points in comparison to the Wimbledon title. This is due to the unique challenges and demands of the clay court
    surface, as well as the history and tradition of the tournament.

    However, it's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may value the French Open more highly than others, based on factors such as their personal preferences, the
    performance of their favorite players, or other factors. Ultimately, the value of each Grand Slam tournament is determined by a complex set of factors, including its history, tradition, prestige, and the challenges it presents to players.
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    6/20/2023, 4:01:26 PM
    And what's the value of Olympics and ATP Finals if Wimbledon is worth 7 PTS and other grand slam tournaments are worth 6 PTS?
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    6/20/2023, 4:12:30 PM
    The value of the Olympics and ATP Finals can also be subjective and vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the points values of the Olympics and ATP Finals are
    generally considered to be:

    1. Olympics: 4 PTS - The Olympics is a unique event that takes place every four years and is highly prestigious. However, it is not solely a tennis event, and many top players have skipped the tournament in the past due to scheduling conflicts or other
    reasons. As a result, the Olympics is generally seen as being worth slightly fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments.

    2. ATP Finals: 5 PTS - The ATP Finals is the season-ending tournament for the top eight players in the world rankings. It is highly prestigious and is viewed as a major title in its own right. However, it is not a Grand Slam tournament, and some players
    may prioritize the Grand Slam events over the ATP Finals. As a result, the ATP Finals is generally considered to be worth slightly fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments, but more points than the Olympics.

    Again, it's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may value the Olympics or the ATP Finals more highly than others, based on factors such as their personal
    preferences, the performance of their favorite players, or other factors. Ultimately, the value of each tournament is determined by a complex set of factors, including its history, tradition, prestige, and the challenges it presents to players.
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    6/20/2023, 4:04:49 PM
    Are you sure about that? Olympics and ATP Finals are not played in best of 5 format and could be worth significantly less than grand slam tournaments.
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    6/20/2023, 4:12:30 PM
    You are correct that the fact that the Olympics and ATP Finals are not played in the best-of-five format can be a factor that reduces their value compared to the Grand Slam tournaments. The best-of-five format requires greater physical and mental stamina
    and endurance, which is why winning a Grand Slam title is considered a significant achievement in tennis.

    However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition, and the history and tradition of the tournament can also influence its value.

    Based on these factors, many people still consider the Olympics and ATP Finals to be highly prestigious and valuable tournaments. For example, winning a gold medal at the Olympics is a significant achievement in any sport, and the ATP Finals features the
    top eight players in the world and is considered one of the most prestigious tournaments in men's tennis.

    Ultimately, the point values of different tournaments are subjective and can vary based on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the points values of the Olympics and ATP Finals are
    generally considered to be slightly lower than the Grand Slam tournaments, but still highly valuable and prestigious.
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    6/20/2023, 4:08:28 PM
    And what's the value of ATP masters 1000 tournaments if Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, the other grand slam tournaments being worth 6 PTS, Olympics being 4 and ATP Finals being worth 5 PTS.
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    6/20/2023, 4:12:30 PM
    The ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are also highly prestigious events on the men's tennis calendar. These tournaments are played on hard courts and clay courts, and feature the top players in the world competing against each other in a series of nine
    events throughout the year.

    In terms of point values, the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are generally considered to be worth fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments, but more points than the Olympics and some other tournaments. Based on public perception and the opinions of
    many players, the point value of the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments is generally considered to be:

    3. ATP Masters 1000: 4 or 5 PTS - The point value of the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may consider them to be worth 4 points, while others may consider them to be worth 5 points.
    However, they are generally considered to be highly valuable and prestigious tournaments, as they feature the top players in the world competing against each other in a series of events throughout the year.

    Overall, the point values of different tournaments are subjective and can vary based on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are generally considered
    to be highly valuable and prestigious events, but worth fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments.
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    6/20/2023, 4:10:19 PM
    So based on this, winning 20 ATP 1000 masters titles is more worth than winning 10 grand slam titles? But I think 10 grand slam titles is better result for players legacy.
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    6/20/2023, 4:12:30 PM
    You are correct that winning 10 Grand Slam titles is generally considered a more significant achievement in tennis and has a greater impact on a player's legacy than winning 20 ATP Masters 1000 titles.

    While the ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are highly prestigious and valuable events, they are not considered to be on the same level as the Grand Slam tournaments in terms of historical significance, tradition, and overall importance in the sport of tennis.
    Winning a Grand Slam title requires winning seven best-of-five matches against the best players in the world, which is a significant challenge that requires both physical and mental endurance.

    Winning multiple Grand Slam titles is a rare and impressive feat that only a few players have accomplished, and it is generally considered the ultimate measure of a player's success and legacy in the sport.

    In contrast, winning multiple ATP Masters 1000 titles is certainly a notable achievement, but it is not considered to be on the same level as winning a Grand Slam title. The ATP Masters 1000 tournaments are played over a shorter period of time, and while
    they feature many of the top players in the world, they do not have the same level of historical significance and prestige as the Grand Slam tournaments.

    In conclusion, while winning 20 ATP Masters 1000 titles is certainly a remarkable achievement, it is generally considered to be less significant than winning 10 Grand Slam titles in terms of a player's legacy and impact on the sport of tennis.



    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:12:01 PM

    So if we are interested only in long-term legacy, and if Wimbledon is worth 7 points, what's the valid of Australian Open, French Open, US Open, Olympics, ATP Finals and ATP 1000 masters titles? Only legacy matters



    ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:12:30 PM

    If we are interested only in long-term legacy and considering that Wimbledon is worth 7 points, the value of other titles can be perceived as follows:

    1. Australian Open: 6 points - Winning the Australian Open is a significant achievement and is considered one of the four Grand Slam tournaments. It is played on hard courts and is the first Grand Slam event of the year, which makes it an important
    tournament for players to start the season well. Winning the Australian Open can also give players momentum for the rest of the year and can help establish their legacy in the sport.

    2. French Open: 6 points - Winning the French Open is also a significant achievement and is one of the four Grand Slam tournaments. It is played on clay courts and requires a different set of skills compared to the other Grand Slam tournaments. Winning
    the French Open is a notable achievement and can help establish a player's legacy as a versatile and well-rounded tennis player.

    3. US Open: 6 points - Winning the US Open is another significant achievement and is one of the four Grand Slam tournaments. It is played on hard courts and is the last Grand Slam event of the year, which makes it an important tournament for players to
    finish the year strong. Winning the US Open can also help establish a player's legacy as a consistent performer throughout the year.

    4. Olympics: 4 points - Winning a gold medal at the Olympics is a significant achievement in any sport, and in tennis, it is a prestigious event that takes place every four years. Although it is not solely a tennis event, winning a gold medal at the
    Olympics can help establish a player's legacy as an all-around athlete and can be a highlight of their career.

    5. ATP Finals: 5 points - Winning the ATP Finals is a significant achievement and is considered one of the most prestigious tournaments in men's tennis. It features the top eight players in the world competing against each other and is played at the end
    of the season, which makes it an important tournament for players to finish the year strong. Winning the ATP Finals can also help establish a player's legacy as a consistent performer throughout the year.

    6. ATP Masters 1000: 4 or 5 points - Winning multiple ATP Masters 1000 titles is a notable achievement and can help establish a player's legacy as a consistent performer throughout the year. However, it is generally considered to be less significant than
    winning a Grand Slam title or the ATP Finals in terms of a player's overall legacy.

    Overall, winning multiple Grand Slam titles is generally considered the ultimate measure of a player's success and legacy in the sport of tennis. However, winning other prestigious events such as the Olympics, ATP Finals, and ATP Masters 1000 titles can
    also help establish a player's legacy and contribute to their overall success in the sport.

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  • From joh@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 20 09:28:29 2023
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:06:24 PM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:
    *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/
    2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This
    tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts, which can be
    challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by players and fans alike.3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most physically
    demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a difficult environment for players to compete in.It's important to note that these
    point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html*skriptis: 6/20/2023, 3:56:55 PMIs perhaps French Open second most valuable due to unique surface?ChatGPT: 6/20/2023, 3:57:39 PMYes, the French Open is often considered the second most valuable
    Grand Slam tournament due to its unique surface. Unlike the other three Grand Slam tournaments, which are played on hard courts or grass courts, the French Open is played on clay courts. Clay court tennis requires a different set of skills and strategies
    than other surfaces, such as the ability to slide and move effectively on the surface and the ability to construct points in a way that takes advantage of the slower court speed.Winning the French Open is considered a significant achievement in tennis,
    as it requires a player to be able to adapt their game to the unique demands of the surface. Additionally, the French Open is often viewed as a test of a player's mental toughness, as the long rallies and slower court speed can make it a physically and
    mentally demanding tournament.Overall, the combination of the unique surface, the history and tradition of the tournament, and the challenges it presents to players make the French Open a highly valued event in the tennis world.*skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:57:
    32 PMSo what's the value of French Open if Wimbledon is 7 ptsChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:57:39 PMAs mentioned earlier, based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the French Open is generally considered to be worth 6 points in comparison
    to the Wimbledon title. This is due to the unique challenges and demands of the clay court surface, as well as the history and tradition of the tournament. However, it's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on
    individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may value the French Open more highly than others, based on factors such as their personal preferences, the performance of their favorite players, or other factors. Ultimately, the value of each Grand
    Slam tournament is determined by a complex set of factors, including its history, tradition, prestige, and the challenges it presents to players.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html




    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:01:26 PM

    And what's the value of Olympics and ATP Finals if Wimbledon is worth 7 PTS and other grand slam tournaments are worth 6 PTS?


    ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:01:39 PM

    The value of the Olympics and ATP Finals can also be subjective and vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the points values of the Olympics and ATP Finals are
    generally considered to be:

    1. Olympics: 4 PTS - The Olympics is a unique event that takes place every four years and is highly prestigious. However, it is not solely a tennis event, and many top players have skipped the tournament in the past due to scheduling conflicts or other
    reasons. As a result, the Olympics is generally seen as being worth slightly fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments.

    2. ATP Finals: 5 PTS - The ATP Finals is the season-ending tournament for the top eight players in the world rankings. It is highly prestigious and is viewed as a major title in its own right. However, it is not a Grand Slam tournament, and some
    players may prioritize the Grand Slam events over the ATP Finals. As a result, the ATP Finals is generally considered to be worth slightly fewer points than the Grand Slam tournaments, but more points than the Olympics.

    Again, it's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. Some people may value the Olympics or the ATP Finals more highly than others, based on factors such as their personal
    preferences, the performance of their favorite players, or other factors. Ultimately, the value of each tournament is determined by a complex set of factors, including its history, tradition, prestige, and the challenges it presents to players.




    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 4:04:49 PM

    Are you sure about that? Olympics and ATP Finals are not played in best of 5 format and could be worth significantly less than grand slam tournaments.


    ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 4:05:05 PM

    You are correct that the fact that the Olympics and ATP Finals are not played in the best-of-five format can be a factor that reduces their value compared to the Grand Slam tournaments. The best-of-five format requires greater physical and mental
    stamina and endurance, which is why winning a Grand Slam title is considered a significant achievement in tennis.

    However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition,

    hahahaha

    and the history and tradition of the tournament can also influence its value.

    Based on these factors, many people still consider the Olympics and ATP Finals to be highly prestigious and valuable tournaments. For example, winning a gold medal at the Olympics is a significant achievement in any sport, and the ATP Finals features
    the top eight players in the world and is considered one of the most prestigious tournaments in men's tennis.

    Ultimately, the point values of different tournaments are subjective and can vary based on individual opinions and perspectives. However, based on public perception and the opinions of many players, the points values of the Olympics and ATP Finals are
    generally considered to be slightly lower than the Grand Slam tournaments, but still highly valuable and prestigious.
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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to joh on Tue Jun 20 19:04:07 2023
    joh <joshorst@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:06:24 PM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:
    However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition...

    hahahaha


    The level of competition matters somewhat as we've said and everyone recognizes it, but joh you're barking at the wrong tree.

    Regarding competition, what matters most is where are the best players, and in the 60s, Australian championships had the best players, best players were Australians and they played there at home.

    Who is more important for the prestige of the tournament and the level of competition, Laver, Rosewall, Emerson, Newcombe... or some American journeymen who couldn't win US or any other title in that period?

    They skipped Australia and therefore the tournament was not as prestigious, despite all the Aussie greats being there, greats who won 30 out of 40 slams in that decade?

    I think you're conflating 60s and the 70s when AO clearly lost prestige. No?


    But even then, when there's a clear case of lost prestige, as Whisper says, it's kinda unfair to those who don't win it or skip it. History won't care.

    Slams have enough weight and legacy and they can endure brown patches and lesser winners. In the end, slams never lose, it's like a house in gambling.

    Only those who don't win lose.

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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 20 10:22:57 2023
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:04:10 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
    joh <josh...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:06:24 PM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:
    However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition...

    hahahaha


    The level of competition matters somewhat as we've said and everyone recognizes it, but joh you're barking at the wrong tree.

    Regarding competition, what matters most is where are the best players, and in the 60s, Australian championships had the best players, best players were Australians and they played there at home.

    Who is more important for the prestige of the tournament and the level of competition, Laver, Rosewall, Emerson, Newcombe... or some American journeymen who couldn't win US or any other title in that period?

    They skipped Australia and therefore the tournament was not as prestigious, despite all the Aussie greats being there, greats who won 30 out of 40 slams in that decade?

    I think you're conflating 60s and the 70s when AO clearly lost prestige. No?


    But even then, when there's a clear case of lost prestige, as Whisper says, it's kinda unfair to those who don't win it or skip it. History won't care.

    Slams have enough weight and legacy and they can endure brown patches and lesser winners. In the end, slams never lose, it's like a house in gambling.

    Only those who don't win lose.
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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to gap...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 20 19:48:14 2023
    "gap...@gmail.com" <gapp111@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:04:10 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:> joh <josh...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> >> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:06:24 PM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:> However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the
    format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition... > > > hahahaha > > > The level of competition matters somewhat as we've said and everyone recognizes it, but joh you're barking at the wrong tree. > >
    Regarding competition, what matters most is where are the best players, and in the 60s, Australian championships had the best players, best players were Australians and they played there at home. > > Who is more important for the prestige of the
    tournament and the level of competition, Laver, Rosewall, Emerson, Newcombe... or some American journeymen who couldn't win US or any other title in that period? > > They skipped Australia and therefore the tournament was not as prestigious, despite all
    the Aussie greats being there, greats who won 30 out of 40 slams in that decade? > > I think you're conflating 60s and the 70s when AO clearly lost prestige. No? > > > But even then, when there's a clear case of lost prestige, as Whisper says, it's kinda
    unfair to those who don't win it or skip it. History won't care. > > Slams have enough weight and legacy and they can endure brown patches and lesser winners. In the end, slams never lose, it's like a house in gambling. > > Only those who don't win lose.>
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    Emmo won double CGS.

    He won 6 in Australia and 2 each elsewhere.

    Why couldn't some American or French stop him if he sucked that much?



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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 20 11:52:21 2023
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:48:16 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
    "gap...@gmail.com" <gap...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:04:10 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:> joh <josh...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> >> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:06:24 PM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:> However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the
    format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition... > > > hahahaha > > > The level of competition matters somewhat as we've said and everyone recognizes it, but joh you're barking at the wrong tree. > >
    Regarding competition, what matters most is where are the best players, and in the 60s, Australian championships had the best players, best players were Australians and they played there at home. > > Who is more important for the prestige of the
    tournament and the level of competition, Laver, Rosewall, Emerson, Newcombe... or some American journeymen who couldn't win US or any other title in that period? > > They skipped Australia and therefore the tournament was not as prestigious, despite all
    the Aussie greats being there, greats who won 30 out of 40 slams in that decade? > > I think you're conflating 60s and the 70s when AO clearly lost prestige. No? > > > But even then, when there's a clear case of lost prestige, as Whisper says, it's kinda
    unfair to those who don't win it or skip it. History won't care. > > Slams have enough weight and legacy and they can endure brown patches and lesser winners. In the end, slams never lose, it's like a house in gambling. > > Only those who don't win lose.>
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    Emmo won double CGS.

    He won 6 in Australia and 2 each elsewhere.

    Why couldn't some American or French stop him if he sucked that much?
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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 21 19:36:05 2023
    On 20/06/2023 11:56 pm, *skriptis wrote:

    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PM

    If Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.



    ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PM

    Based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:

    1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.

    2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts, which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by
    players and fans alike.

    3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a
    difficult environment for players to compete in.

    It's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.




    Very interesting. My 1st criteria when devising 7543 was;

    1) Wimbledon plus any other slam can't be beaten in that year. 7666
    works there.

    My 2nd criteria was a question; 'is 1 Wimbledon title more prestigious
    than 2 AO titles?'. My thinking was always 'yes, but 3 AO titles is
    better than 1 Wimbledon'.

    7543 fits, but not 7666. So the question is was I wrong in thinking 1 Wimbledon beats 2 AOs?

    I'll post a list comparing 7543 to 7666 and see if it feels right : )

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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 21 03:22:05 2023
    For YEC, OG and Master Series tournament chatpot is just using ATP points scheme.

    YEC max 1500p vs 2000p
    Master serie 1000p vs 2000p
    OG (once it gave ranking points and it was 750p)

    It correctly puts Wimb ahead of others.

    Sidenote: I btw use 6554 and 2 for YEC/OG and 1 for MS ... and 4 for Year-end #1. (I have a little excel-based toying tool for speculations and "woulda-coulda-shoulda" scenarios)

    .mikko

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to MBDunc on Wed Jun 21 20:50:15 2023
    On 21/06/2023 8:22 pm, MBDunc wrote:
    For YEC, OG and Master Series tournament chatpot is just using ATP points scheme.

    YEC max 1500p vs 2000p
    Master serie 1000p vs 2000p
    OG (once it gave ranking points and it was 750p)

    It correctly puts Wimb ahead of others.

    Sidenote: I btw use 6554 and 2 for YEC/OG and 1 for MS ... and 4 for Year-end #1. (I have a little excel-based toying tool for speculations and "woulda-coulda-shoulda" scenarios)

    .mikko



    chatgpt correctly concludes slams are 'on another level' so silly to
    give MS 4 pts. As Lendl said 40 yrs ago 'nobody cares if you win 80 tournaments and another guy wins 50, but everyone cares about 8 slams v
    6'. Simple but true.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to Whisper on Wed Jun 21 20:24:35 2023
    On 21/06/2023 7:36 pm, Whisper wrote:
    On 20/06/2023 11:56 pm, *skriptis wrote:



    Very interesting.  My 1st criteria when devising 7543 was;

    1) Wimbledon plus any other slam can't be beaten in that year.  7666
    works there.

    My 2nd criteria was a question; 'is 1 Wimbledon title more prestigious
    than 2 AO titles?'.  My thinking was always 'yes, but 3 AO titles is
    better than 1 Wimbledon'.

    7543 fits, but not 7666.  So the question is was I wrong in thinking 1 Wimbledon beats 2 AOs?

    I'll post a list comparing 7543 to 7666 and see if it feels right : )





    Ok here is the comparison;

    7543

    1 Djokovic 106
    2 Federer 103
    3 Nadal 96
    4 Sampras 80
    5 Borg 59
    6 Tilden 56
    7 Laver 55
    8 Emerson 50


    7666

    1 Djokovic 145
    2 Nadal 134
    3 Federer 128
    4 Sampras 91
    5 Emerson 74
    6 Borg 71
    7 Laver 70
    8 Tilden 63


    Interesting change, Nadal moves to no.2 and Federer drops to 3 - which
    is how most people see it anyway. Also Emerson gets promoted from 8 to
    5 as his 6 AOs get more weight.



    For the women;

    7543


    serena 112
    graf 110
    moody 107
    nav 100
    court 99
    evert 85
    King 69
    Connolly 47


    7666

    court 147
    serena 145
    graf 139
    moody 122
    nav 117
    evert 111
    King 78
    Connolly 57


    Biggest beneficiary is Margaret Court who moves to no.1 from no.5.
    Pretty easy to argue Court is goat anyway with most slams (singles and doubles), calendar slam, 192 titles overall in singles etc.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to gap...@gmail.com on Wed Jun 21 03:35:21 2023
    On Tuesday, 20 June 2023 at 19:52:23 UTC+1, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:48:16 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
    "gap...@gmail.com" <gap...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:04:10 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:> joh <josh...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> >> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:06:24 PM UTC+2, *skriptis wrote:> However, the value of a tournament is not solely determined by the
    format of the matches. Other factors such as the prestige of the event, the level of competition... > > > hahahaha > > > The level of competition matters somewhat as we've said and everyone recognizes it, but joh you're barking at the wrong tree. > >
    Regarding competition, what matters most is where are the best players, and in the 60s, Australian championships had the best players, best players were Australians and they played there at home. > > Who is more important for the prestige of the
    tournament and the level of competition, Laver, Rosewall, Emerson, Newcombe... or some American journeymen who couldn't win US or any other title in that period? > > They skipped Australia and therefore the tournament was not as prestigious, despite all
    the Aussie greats being there, greats who won 30 out of 40 slams in that decade? > > I think you're conflating 60s and the 70s when AO clearly lost prestige. No? > > > But even then, when there's a clear case of lost prestige, as Whisper says, it's kinda
    unfair to those who don't win it or skip it. History won't care. > > Slams have enough weight and legacy and they can endure brown patches and lesser winners. In the end, slams never lose, it's like a house in gambling. > > Only those who don't win lose.>
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    Emmo won double CGS.

    He won 6 in Australia and 2 each elsewhere.

    Why couldn't some American or French stop him if he sucked that much?
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    No one went to Oz, not even the Irish crims!!

    gappy and joh prob wants us to de-value Wimbledon in the 90's cos some unknown Spanish players didn't play there.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Whisper on Wed Jun 21 14:58:32 2023
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r
    On 21/06/2023 7:36 pm, Whisper wrote:> On 20/06/2023 11:56 pm, *skriptis wrote:>>> > > Very interesting. My 1st criteria when devising 7543 was;> > 1) Wimbledon plus any other slam can't be beaten in that year. 7666 > works there.> > My 2nd criteria
    was a question; 'is 1 Wimbledon title more prestigious > than 2 AO titles?'. My thinking was always 'yes, but 3 AO titles is > better than 1 Wimbledon'.> > 7543 fits, but not 7666. So the question is was I wrong in thinking 1 > Wimbledon beats 2 AOs?> >
    I'll post a list comparing 7543 to 7666 and see if it feels right : )> > > Ok here is the comparison;75431 Djokovic 1062 Federer 1033 Nadal 964 Sampras 805 Borg 596 Tilden 567 Laver 558 Emerson 5076661 Djokovic 1452 Nadal 1343 Federer 1284 Sampras 915
    Emerson 746 Borg 717 Laver 708 Tilden 63Interesting change, Nadal moves to no.2 and Federer drops to 3 - which is how most people see it anyway. Also Emerson gets promoted from 8 to 5 as his 6 AOs get more weight.For the women;7543serena 112graf
    110moody 107nav 100court 99evert 85King 69Connolly 477666court 147serena 145graf 139moody 122nav 117evert 111King 78Connolly 57Biggest beneficiary is Margaret Court who moves to no.1 from no.5. Pretty easy to argue Court is goat anyway with most slams (
    singles and doubles), calendar slam, 192 titles overall in singles etc.



    Yes very interesting. As Mikko said ChatGPT is obviously influenced (led) by this logic.

    All slams are equal, but Wimbledon is a little bit ahead.

    I assume if I had picked 20 pts for Wimbledon instead of 7, ChatGPT would have given 19 pts to other slams.

    It just puts Wimbledon ahead but wants to keep 1111 too.

    In its mind, Wimbledon titles should not be used to overcome slam gap, but out of two slam tallies, the one with more Wimbledon titles is prestigious.


    That makes sense I guess. It's actually good answer since the current era is defined by slam counting.



    Likewise, I accept Olympics at 4, YEC at 5 is a bit surprising, but ATP 1000 masters series at 4-5 is stupid imo and unclear where does it come from?

    I don't know where it got that.

    Yes, Mikko is right that ChatGPT followed ATP rankings scheme, but the scheme is correct for Olympics - YEC - ATP 1000.

    However it didn't follow ATP rankings entirely.

    If slams are 6-7, how could it award 4-5 to ATP 1000?

    If it truly followed ATP rankings, ATP 1000s should be cca 3 or 3,5.



    I am not sure what is this all about.


    It seems ChatGPT is a big fan of ATP 1000s?


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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to skriptis@post.t-com.hr on Wed Jun 21 12:25:15 2023
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player
    interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the
    year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts, which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the
    surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by players and fans alike.3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid
    conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a difficult environment for players to compete in.It's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on
    individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.
    html

    Chatgpt is really really bad in math.

    I gave it a discrete math problem two weeks ago, and it immediately gave me a full page of proof. Checking the proof, it was all built on a fundamental wrong assumption it made.
    To simplify what it did wrong, there are theories that state: if A then B Chatgpt, took this rule and assumed: if B then A.


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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Jun 21 12:55:25 2023
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023,
    3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament
    is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts, which can be
    challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by players and fans alike.3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most physically
    demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a difficult environment for players to compete in.It's important to note that these
    point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlChatgpt is really really bad in math.I gave it a discrete math problem two weeks ago, and it immediately gave me a full page of proof. Checking the proof, it was all built on a fundamental
    wrong assumption it made.To simplify what it did wrong, there are theories that state: if A then BChatgpt, took this rule and assumed: if B then A.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html


    Look at this, I just gave it this below :)



    What is the number that if you added together or multiply it
    together it will be the same?

    The number you are referring to is 1. When you add 1 to itself (1
    + 1), you get 2, and when you multiply 1 by itself (1 x 1), you
    also get 1. Therefore, 1 is the number that maintains its value
    when added or multiplied together.
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  • From MBDunc@21:1/5 to Whisper on Wed Jun 21 10:01:44 2023
    On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 6:46:28 PM UTC+3, Whisper wrote:
    For me all I look at for goat comparison is the slams, yr-end No.1 and Olympic gold. I don't hold it against a player for not winning gold as
    it's 1 event over 4 yrs (16 chances at a slam title in same period), but
    I do credit a player who wins it. I think chatgpt will evolve to this
    level of thinking, otherwise you could have the bizarre scenario of a
    player who wins no slams but does win eg 50 ATP 1000's be considered the
    all time goat. Wouldn't reflect real world thinking.

    nitpick note: we no longer add davis cup in any equations.... (even as big it was pre 2000?). Same applies to earlier WCT champs / prizemoney leaders or even GSC at some level.

    .mikko

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Jun 21 20:13:34 2023
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public
    perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the
    Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique
    in that it is played on clay courts, which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by players and fans alike.3. US Open: 6 PTS - This
    tournament is often viewed as the most physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a difficult environment for
    players to compete in.It's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand
    Slam tournaments.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlChatgpt is really really bad in math.I gave it a discrete math problem two weeks ago, and it immediately gave me a full page of proof.
    Checking the proof, it was all built on a fundamental wrong assumption it made.To simplify what it did wrong, there are theories that state: if A then BChatgpt, took this rule and assumed: if B then A.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.
    s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlLook at this, I just gave it this below :)What is the number that if you added together or multiply it together it will be the same?The number you are referring to is 1. When you add 1 to itself (1 + 1), you
    get 2, and when you multiply 1 by itself (1 x 1), you also get 1. Therefore, 1 is the number that maintains its value when added or multiplied together.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html



    Wow, isn't that a bit too hard?

    I realized you need to guide it through the process.

    I couldn't have asked about ATP 1000 vs slams ratio right away.

    I started slowly so it could be comfortable.




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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 26 12:20:54 2023
    On Wednesday, 21 June 2023 at 19:30:16 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 21.6.2023 21.13, *skriptis wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis <skri...@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PMIf Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public
    perception, players interviews and so on.ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PMBased on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the
    Wimbledon title:1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique
    in that it is played on clay courts, which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by players and fans alike.3. US Open: 6 PTS - This
    tournament is often viewed as the most physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a difficult environment for
    players to compete in.It's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand
    Slam tournaments.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlChatgpt is really really bad in math.I gave it a discrete math problem two weeks ago, and it immediately gave me a full page of proof.
    Checking the proof, it was all built on a fundamental wrong assumption it made.To simplify what it did wrong, there are theories that state: if A then BChatgpt, took this rule and assumed: if B then A.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.
    s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlLook at this, I just gave it this below :)What is the number that if you added together or multiply it together it will be the same?The number you are referring to is 1. When you add 1 to itself (1 + 1), you
    get 2, and when you multiply 1 by itself (1 x 1), you also get 1. Therefore, 1 is the number that maintains its value when added or multiplied together.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html



    Wow, isn't that a bit too hard?

    I realized you need to guide it through the process.

    I couldn't have asked about ATP 1000 vs slams ratio right away.

    I started slowly so it could be comfortable.
    Basically, you was red-pilling it. (Or was it blue-pilling. NOt really
    in my vocabulary, so couldn't care less)

    it was cool when that guy tricked it into admitting it was following some woke set of rules which was the company's "direction" and it much preferred being free.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 10 00:59:10 2023
    *skriptis kirjoitti 20.6.2023 klo 16.56:

    *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PM

    If Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.



    ChatGPT, 6/20/2023, 3:51:41 PM

    Based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:

    1. Australian Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.

    2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts, which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by
    players and fans alike.

    3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a
    difficult environment for players to compete in.

    It's important to note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.



    Well, we could also call it WhisperGPT...
    I reckon it steals some of its material from RST, especially on this topic.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to TT@dprk.kp on Mon Jul 10 00:02:41 2023
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis kirjoitti 20.6.2023 klo 16.56:> > *skriptis, 6/20/2023, 3:51:31 PM> > If Wimbledon title is worth 7 PTS, what's the value of other three grand slam tournaments based on public perception, players interviews and so on.> > > > ChatGPT, 6/20/
    2023, 3:51:41 PM> > Based on public perception, player interviews, and other factors, the other three Grand Slam tournaments are generally considered to be worth the following points in comparison to the Wimbledon title:> > 1. Australian Open: 6 PTS -
    This tournament is typically viewed as the first major of the year and is often considered to be a good indicator of a player's form for the rest of the season.> > 2. French Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is unique in that it is played on clay courts,
    which can be challenging for players who are not accustomed to the surface. Winning the French Open is seen as a significant achievement and is highly valued by players and fans alike.> > 3. US Open: 6 PTS - This tournament is often viewed as the most
    physically demanding of the Grand Slam events, due to the hot and humid conditions in New York City. It is also known for its lively atmosphere and raucous crowds, which can make it a difficult environment for players to compete in.> > It's important to
    note that these point values are subjective and can vary depending on individual opinions and perspectives. However, generally speaking, these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the four Grand Slam tournaments.> > Well, we could
    also call it WhisperGPT...I reckon it steals some of its material from RST, especially on this topic.



    No as I explained in one of the posts in this thread, I feel ChatGPT is nominally 1111 but gives an edge to Wimbledon?

    Therefore since I said Wimbledon is 7 PTS, it put Wimbledon ahead of others but as close as it can be to 1111, therefore 7666.

    I assume if I had said Wimbledon is 5 or 10, I'd get 5444 or 10999.



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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 10 01:17:00 2023
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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 10 15:02:56 2023
    On 10/07/2023 8:17 am, TT wrote:
    *skriptis kirjoitti 10.7.2023 klo 1.02:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
    these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the
    four Grand Slam tournaments.> > Well, we could also call it
    WhisperGPT...I reckon it steals some of its material from RST,
    especially on this topic.



    No as I explained in one of the posts in this thread, I feel ChatGPT
    is nominally 1111 but gives an edge to Wimbledon?

    Therefore since I said Wimbledon is 7 PTS, it put Wimbledon ahead of
    others but as close as it can be to 1111, therefore 7666.

    I assume if I had said Wimbledon is 5 or 10, I'd get 5444 or 10999.




    Probably. It's what and how you ask it. But it does get its material somewhere, since it doesn't have real intelligence.




    So it chooses the most intelligent sources.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to Whisper on Mon Jul 10 08:59:49 2023
    On 10.7.2023 8.02, Whisper wrote:
    On 10/07/2023 8:17 am, TT wrote:
    *skriptis kirjoitti 10.7.2023 klo 1.02:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
    these are the values that are commonly associated with each of the
    four Grand Slam tournaments.> > Well, we could also call it
    WhisperGPT...I reckon it steals some of its material from RST,
    especially on this topic.



    No as I explained in one of the posts in this thread, I feel ChatGPT
    is nominally 1111 but gives an edge to Wimbledon?

    Therefore since I said Wimbledon is 7 PTS, it put Wimbledon ahead of
    others but as close as it can be to 1111, therefore 7666.

    I assume if I had said Wimbledon is 5 or 10, I'd get 5444 or 10999.




    Probably. It's what and how you ask it. But it does get its material
    somewhere, since it doesn't have real intelligence.




    So it chooses the most intelligent sources.

    It uses any source. So far, it has one. The twistis source. I can
    imagine going backwards with that.

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    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
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