• Re: Solar/Wind Are The Champions My Friend

    From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Tue Jun 13 17:26:36 2023
    On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 7:00:35 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for more electricity generation than fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover point.

    solar power provided a record 14% of the EU’s electricity, from a record 27
    TWh. That May total even beats the solar record set in the middle of summer, July, last year.

    This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity — 14%
    versus 10%.

    Wind power provided 17% (32 TWh) of the EU’s electricity in May. Clearly, that
    beats both of those other sources, but it’s not wind power’s record. Wind
    power’s best month ever was 23% (54 TWh).

    “The strong performance of wind and solar meant that EU coal generation fell
    to an all-time monthly low in May, with just 10% (20 TWh) of EU electricity coming from the most polluting source,” Ember writes. “The record-low coal
    generation in May was just below the previous record set during the pandemic lockdowns, when coal power generated slightly above 10% of EU electricity in April 2020. Fossil gas recorded the lowest share of generation since 2018 at just 15% of EU electricity during May.

    Crossover — Solar & Wind Power Producing More Electricity Than Fossil Fuels In EU. The European Union (EU)
    Clean Technica - June 11, 2023
    -- https://cleantechnica.com/2023/06/11/crossover-solar-wind-power-producing-more-electricity-than-fossil-fuels-in-eu/#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,provides%20us%20with%20the%20news.

    Solar 14% wind 17% totals 31%

    Why are we forgetting the other 69%?

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Jun 14 02:14:09 2023
    On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 01:26:38 UTC+1, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 7:00:35 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for
    more electricity generation than fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two
    core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover
    point.

    solar power provided a record 14% of the EU’s electricity, from a record 27
    TWh. That May total even beats the solar record set in the middle of summer,
    July, last year.

    This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity — 14%
    versus 10%.

    Wind power provided 17% (32 TWh) of the EU’s electricity in May. Clearly, that
    beats both of those other sources, but it’s not wind power’s record. Wind
    power’s best month ever was 23% (54 TWh).

    “The strong performance of wind and solar meant that EU coal generation fell
    to an all-time monthly low in May, with just 10% (20 TWh) of EU electricity
    coming from the most polluting source,” Ember writes. “The record-low coal
    generation in May was just below the previous record set during the pandemic
    lockdowns, when coal power generated slightly above 10% of EU electricity in
    April 2020. Fossil gas recorded the lowest share of generation since 2018 at
    just 15% of EU electricity during May.

    Crossover — Solar & Wind Power Producing More Electricity Than Fossil Fuels In EU. The European Union (EU)
    Clean Technica - June 11, 2023
    -- https://cleantechnica.com/2023/06/11/crossover-solar-wind-power-producing-more-electricity-than-fossil-fuels-in-eu/#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,provides%20us%20with%20the%20news.
    Solar 14% wind 17% totals 31%

    Why are we forgetting the other 69%?

    brucey works for the Democrat Party, he has to promote this kind of fake news and forgetting that China's still got 7 years before reaching peak CO2 levels as agreed in Paris in 2016.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=c3=b6s?=@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Jun 14 12:44:43 2023
    On 14.6.2023 3.26, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 7:00:35 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for >> more electricity generation than fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two >> core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover >> point.

    solar power provided a record 14% of the EU’s electricity, from a record 27
    TWh. That May total even beats the solar record set in the middle of summer, >> July, last year.

    This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity — 14%
    versus 10%.

    Wind power provided 17% (32 TWh) of the EU’s electricity in May. Clearly, that
    beats both of those other sources, but it’s not wind power’s record. Wind
    power’s best month ever was 23% (54 TWh).

    “The strong performance of wind and solar meant that EU coal generation fell
    to an all-time monthly low in May, with just 10% (20 TWh) of EU electricity >> coming from the most polluting source,” Ember writes. “The record-low coal
    generation in May was just below the previous record set during the pandemic >> lockdowns, when coal power generated slightly above 10% of EU electricity in >> April 2020. Fossil gas recorded the lowest share of generation since 2018 at >> just 15% of EU electricity during May.

    Crossover — Solar & Wind Power Producing More Electricity Than Fossil Fuels In EU. The European Union (EU)
    Clean Technica - June 11, 2023
    -- https://cleantechnica.com/2023/06/11/crossover-solar-wind-power-producing-more-electricity-than-fossil-fuels-in-eu/#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,provides%20us%20with%20the%20news.

    Solar 14% wind 17% totals 31%

    Why are we forgetting the other 69%?

    Duh!

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 14 03:35:42 2023
    On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 10:44:46 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    On 14.6.2023 3.26, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 7:00:35 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for
    more electricity generation than fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two
    core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover
    point.

    solar power provided a record 14% of the EU’s electricity, from a record 27
    TWh. That May total even beats the solar record set in the middle of summer,
    July, last year.

    This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity — 14%
    versus 10%.

    Wind power provided 17% (32 TWh) of the EU’s electricity in May. Clearly, that
    beats both of those other sources, but it’s not wind power’s record. Wind
    power’s best month ever was 23% (54 TWh).

    “The strong performance of wind and solar meant that EU coal generation fell
    to an all-time monthly low in May, with just 10% (20 TWh) of EU electricity
    coming from the most polluting source,” Ember writes. “The record-low coal
    generation in May was just below the previous record set during the pandemic
    lockdowns, when coal power generated slightly above 10% of EU electricity in
    April 2020. Fossil gas recorded the lowest share of generation since 2018 at
    just 15% of EU electricity during May.

    Crossover — Solar & Wind Power Producing More Electricity Than Fossil Fuels In EU. The European Union (EU)
    Clean Technica - June 11, 2023
    -- https://cleantechnica.com/2023/06/11/crossover-solar-wind-power-producing-more-electricity-than-fossil-fuels-in-eu/#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,provides%20us%20with%20the%20news.

    Solar 14% wind 17% totals 31%

    Why are we forgetting the other 69%?
    Duh!

    how are electric/gas prices in Finland now? are they still way higher than when it was produced locally??

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Jun 14 13:51:10 2023
    On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 8:26:38 PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 7:00:35 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for
    more electricity generation than fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two
    core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover
    point.

    solar power provided a record 14% of the EU’s electricity, from a record 27
    TWh. That May total even beats the solar record set in the middle of summer,
    July, last year.

    This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity — 14%
    versus 10%.

    Wind power provided 17% (32 TWh) of the EU’s electricity in May. Clearly, that
    beats both of those other sources, but it’s not wind power’s record. Wind
    power’s best month ever was 23% (54 TWh).

    “The strong performance of wind and solar meant that EU coal generation fell
    to an all-time monthly low in May, with just 10% (20 TWh) of EU electricity
    coming from the most polluting source,” Ember writes. “The record-low coal
    generation in May was just below the previous record set during the pandemic
    lockdowns, when coal power generated slightly above 10% of EU electricity in
    April 2020. Fossil gas recorded the lowest share of generation since 2018 at
    just 15% of EU electricity during May.

    Crossover — Solar & Wind Power Producing More Electricity Than Fossil Fuels In EU. The European Union (EU)
    Clean Technica - June 11, 2023
    -- https://cleantechnica.com/2023/06/11/crossover-solar-wind-power-producing-more-electricity-than-fossil-fuels-in-eu/#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,provides%20us%20with%20the%20news.
    Solar 14% wind 17% totals 31%

    Why are we forgetting the other 69%?

    Please read the original post.

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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Wed Jun 14 17:56:07 2023
    bruce bowser <bruce1.9bowser@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 8:26:38PM UTC-4, PeteWasLucky wrote:> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 7:00:35PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote: > > For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for > > more electricity generation than
    fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two > > core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover > > point. > > > > solar power provided a record 14% of the EUs electricity, from a record 27 > > TWh. That May total even beats
    the solar record set in the middle of summer, > > July, last year. > > > > This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity 14% > > versus 10%. > > > > Wind power provided 17% (32 TWh) of the EUs electricity in May. Clearly,
    that > > beats both of those other sources, but its not wind powers record. Wind > > powers best month ever was 23% (54 TWh). > > > > The strong performance of wind and solar meant that EU coal generation fell > > to an all-time monthly low in May,
    with just 10% (20 TWh) of EU electricity > > coming from the most polluting source, Ember writes. The record-low coal > > generation in May was just below the previous record set during the pandemic > > lockdowns, when coal power generated slightly
    above 10% of EU electricity in > > April 2020. Fossil gas recorded the lowest share of generation since 2018 at > > just 15% of EU electricity during May. > > > > Crossover Solar & Wind Power Producing More Electricity Than Fossil Fuels In EU. The
    European Union (EU) > > Clean Technica - June 11, 2023 > > -- https://cleantechnica.com/2023/06/11/crossover-solar-wind-power-producing-more-electricity-than-fossil-fuels-in-eu/#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,provides%20us%20with%20the%20news.>
    Solar 14% wind 17% totals 31% > > Why are we forgetting the other 69%?Please read the original post.

    I read, and summarized the numbers and it appears that there is a
    69% portion that wasn't talked about.
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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Jun 14 16:28:29 2023
    On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 5:26:38 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 7:00:35 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for
    more electricity generation than fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two
    core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover
    point.

    solar power provided a record 14% of the EU’s electricity, from a record 27
    TWh. That May total even beats the solar record set in the middle of summer,
    July, last year.

    This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity — 14%
    versus 10%.

    Wind power provided 17% (32 TWh) of the EU’s electricity in May. Clearly, that
    beats both of those other sources, but it’s not wind power’s record. Wind
    power’s best month ever was 23% (54 TWh).

    “The strong performance of wind and solar meant that EU coal generation fell
    to an all-time monthly low in May, with just 10% (20 TWh) of EU electricity
    coming from the most polluting source,” Ember writes. “The record-low coal
    generation in May was just below the previous record set during the pandemic
    lockdowns, when coal power generated slightly above 10% of EU electricity in
    April 2020. Fossil gas recorded the lowest share of generation since 2018 at
    just 15% of EU electricity during May.

    Crossover — Solar & Wind Power Producing More Electricity Than Fossil Fuels In EU. The European Union (EU)
    Clean Technica - June 11, 2023
    -- https://cleantechnica.com/2023/06/11/crossover-solar-wind-power-producing-more-electricity-than-fossil-fuels-in-eu/#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,provides%20us%20with%20the%20news.
    Solar 14% wind 17% totals 31%

    Why are we forgetting the other 69%?

    https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/how-is-eu-electricity-produced-and-sold/#:~:text=In%202022%2C%20the%20EU%20produced,followed%20by%20coal%20(15.8%25).

    From this article, which has a nice pie chart:
    In 2022, the EU produced 2 641 TWh (terawatt-hours) of electricity. Almost 40% of this came from renewable sources. Fossil fuels made up 38.6% and nuclear electricity over 20%. Gas was the main fossil fuel used to generate electricity (19.6%), followed
    by coal (15.8%).

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  • From jdeluise@21:1/5 to PeteWasLucky on Wed Jun 14 19:13:53 2023
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:



    I read, and summarized the numbers and it appears that there is a
    69% portion that wasn't talked about.

    Wow...

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to bmoore on Thu Jun 15 01:10:56 2023
    On Thursday, 15 June 2023 at 00:28:31 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 5:26:38 PM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 7:00:35 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
    For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for
    more electricity generation than fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two
    core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover
    point.

    solar power provided a record 14% of the EU’s electricity, from a record 27
    TWh. That May total even beats the solar record set in the middle of summer,
    July, last year.

    This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity — 14%
    versus 10%.

    Wind power provided 17% (32 TWh) of the EU’s electricity in May. Clearly, that
    beats both of those other sources, but it’s not wind power’s record. Wind
    power’s best month ever was 23% (54 TWh).

    “The strong performance of wind and solar meant that EU coal generation fell
    to an all-time monthly low in May, with just 10% (20 TWh) of EU electricity
    coming from the most polluting source,” Ember writes. “The record-low coal
    generation in May was just below the previous record set during the pandemic
    lockdowns, when coal power generated slightly above 10% of EU electricity in
    April 2020. Fossil gas recorded the lowest share of generation since 2018 at
    just 15% of EU electricity during May.

    Crossover — Solar & Wind Power Producing More Electricity Than Fossil Fuels In EU. The European Union (EU)
    Clean Technica - June 11, 2023
    -- https://cleantechnica.com/2023/06/11/crossover-solar-wind-power-producing-more-electricity-than-fossil-fuels-in-eu/#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,provides%20us%20with%20the%20news.
    Solar 14% wind 17% totals 31%

    Why are we forgetting the other 69%?
    https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/how-is-eu-electricity-produced-and-sold/#:~:text=In%202022%2C%20the%20EU%20produced,followed%20by%20coal%20(15.8%25).

    From this article, which has a nice pie chart:
    In 2022, the EU produced 2 641 TWh (terawatt-hours) of electricity. Almost 40% of this came from renewable sources. Fossil fuels made up 38.6% and nuclear electricity over 20%. Gas was the main fossil fuel used to generate electricity (19.6%), followed
    by coal (15.8%).

    you've left out how wind energy figures are fudged, they need equivalent non-wind back ups at the ready when it's not windy and they often break. Guess what, all that extra is paid by extra taxes that would make wind non-viable otherwise.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Thu Jun 15 01:12:33 2023
    On Thursday, 15 June 2023 at 04:13:58 UTC+1, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:



    I read, and summarized the numbers and it appears that there is a
    69% portion that wasn't talked about.
    Wow...

    even better news from the UK - bring back coal, Trump proved totally right yet again!

    Coal Plant Fired Up as Solar Panels Fail Because It’s Too Sunny https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/13/coal-plant-fired-up-as-solar-panels-fail-because-its-too-sunny/

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  • From Custos Custodum@21:1/5 to iceberg.rules@gmail.com on Fri Jun 16 14:10:58 2023
    On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 01:12:33 -0700 (PDT), The Iceberg
    <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, 15 June 2023 at 04:13:58 UTC+1, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:



    I read, and summarized the numbers and it appears that there is a
    69% portion that wasn't talked about.
    Wow...

    even better news from the UK - bring back coal, Trump proved totally right yet again!

    Trump is a moron who has yet to be proved right about anything.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGbZ84PqHgI


    Coal Plant Fired Up as Solar Panels Fail Because Its Too Sunny >https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/13/coal-plant-fired-up-as-solar-panels-fail-because-its-too-sunny/

    Fake news from yet another of your kook websites. Running with reduced efficiency is not the same as failing. As I type this (~2pm), solar is currently producing an estimated ~27% of the UK's electricity.

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
    (you will likely see different figures depending on when you check
    this)

    The reason they are putting coal on standby is that it's probably the
    cheapest way of covering the increased demand caused by air
    conditioning and fans, etc. There is still spare capacity on the
    French interconnector.

    You have not been charged for this enhancement to your education.

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Custos Custodum on Fri Jun 16 07:44:26 2023
    On Friday, 16 June 2023 at 14:11:03 UTC+1, Custos Custodum wrote:
    On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 01:12:33 -0700 (PDT), The Iceberg
    <iceber...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, 15 June 2023 at 04:13:58 UTC+1, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed...@gmail.com> writes:



    I read, and summarized the numbers and it appears that there is a
    69% portion that wasn't talked about.
    Wow...

    even better news from the UK - bring back coal, Trump proved totally right yet again!
    Trump is a moron who has yet to be proved right about anything.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGbZ84PqHgI

    It's THE CURRENT YEAR and that justifies anything! Your Biden has been a total disaster compared to Trump, unless you're a man that wears a dress perhaps.
    https://i0.wp.com/i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/089/942/55a.png

    Coal Plant Fired Up as Solar Panels Fail Because It’s Too Sunny >https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/13/coal-plant-fired-up-as-solar-panels-fail-because-its-too-sunny/
    Fake news from yet another of your kook websites. Running with reduced efficiency is not the same as failing. As I type this (~2pm), solar is currently producing an estimated ~27% of the UK's electricity.

    HAAAH 27% HAHAHAH why are you trying to con us with that 27% figure? come on admit what's wrong with it. It's very obvious, but let's get you to admit the flaw, winter anyone?

    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
    (you will likely see different figures depending on when you check
    this)

    The reason they are putting coal on standby is that it's probably the cheapest way of covering the increased demand caused by air
    conditioning and fans, etc. There is still spare capacity on the
    French interconnector.

    You have not been charged for this enhancement to your education.

    that's a great website and very interesting to look at, but you're being very very disingenuous, still you're a leftist so what do we expect, you also support men wearing women's dresses LOL

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