“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
"Be in the present moment, forget about what happened in the past. The future is something that is just going to happen—but if you want a better future, you create it. Take the means in your hands. Believe it."--Djokovic in RG trophy presentationspeech.
"First Novak Djokovic takes your legs. Then he takes your soul."--Andy Roddick
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
"Be in the present moment, forget about what happened in the past. The future is something that is just going to happen—but if you want a better future, you create it. Take the means in your hands. Believe it."--Djokovic in RG trophy presentationspeech.
"First Novak Djokovic takes your legs. Then he takes your soul."--Andy Roddick
On 12.6.2023 1.44, Court_1 wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
speech."Be in the present moment, forget about what happened in the past. The future is something that is just going to happen—but if you want a better future, you create it. Take the means in your hands. Believe it."--Djokovic in RG trophy presentation
"First Novak Djokovic takes your legs. Then he takes your soul."--Andy RoddickYou'll make a good Djok bard!
;)
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 3:58:22 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:speech.
On 12.6.2023 1.44, Court_1 wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
"Be in the present moment, forget about what happened in the past. The future is something that is just going to happen—but if you want a better future, you create it. Take the means in your hands. Believe it."--Djokovic in RG trophy presentation
Maybe I should apply to be one of Djokovic's serfs like his coach Goran is! 😂You'll make a good Djok bard!
"First Novak Djokovic takes your legs. Then he takes your soul."--Andy Roddick
;)
In his winner's speech, Djokovic said he puts his team through torture. Can you imagine what a psycho he probably is to work for? There's a reason Vajda left and it had nothing to do with the reason he and Djokovic gave in their press statements.
On 6/12/23 4:55 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 3:58:22 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
On 12.6.2023 1.44, Court_1 wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
"Be in the present moment, forget about what happened in the past. The future is something that is just going to happen—but if you want a better future, you create it. Take the means in your hands. Believe it."--Djokovic in RG trophy presentationspeech.
"First Novak Djokovic takes your legs. Then he takes your soul."--Andy RoddickNo, they don't get it. Just go on social media and read the comments of some fanatics. They literally live through their idols and sit and watch tennis matches every single day. For them to admit a player other than their favorite is better is akin to
You'll make a good Djok bard!
;)
Maybe I should apply to be one of Djokovic's serfs like his coach Goran is! 😂
In his winner's speech, Djokovic said he puts his team through torture. Can you imagine what a psycho he probably is to work for? There's a reason Vajda left and it had nothing to do with the reason he and Djokovic gave in their press statements.
Re Djokovich, from the Eagle's "Life in the Fast Lane":
"He had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude...
"They said he was ruthless, they said he was crude..."
Court, in my opinion people mostly *do* get what you're saying WRT players playing much older, chronologically...they have for years. I know I have...
I think maybe they just don't want to give you the satisfaction.
First the Eagles, now the Stones? :^)
--
--Sawfish ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The Ayatolla of Rock and Rolla!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 8:35:59 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:speech.
On 6/12/23 4:55 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 3:58:22 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
On 12.6.2023 1.44, Court_1 wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
"Be in the present moment, forget about what happened in the past. The future is something that is just going to happen—but if you want a better future, you create it. Take the means in your hands. Believe it."--Djokovic in RG trophy presentation
admitting that they themselves have failed in some way.No, they don't get it. Just go on social media and read the comments of some fanatics. They literally live through their idols and sit and watch tennis matches every single day. For them to admit a player other than their favorite is better is akin to
"First Novak Djokovic takes your legs. Then he takes your soul."--Andy Roddick
You'll make a good Djok bard!
;)
Maybe I should apply to be one of Djokovic's serfs like his coach Goran is! 😂
In his winner's speech, Djokovic said he puts his team through torture. Can you imagine what a psycho he probably is to work for? There's a reason Vajda left and it had nothing to do with the reason he and Djokovic gave in their press statements.
Re Djokovich, from the Eagle's "Life in the Fast Lane":
"He had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude...
"They said he was ruthless, they said he was crude..."
Court, in my opinion people mostly *do* get what you're saying WRT players playing much older, chronologically...they have for years. I know I have...
I think maybe they just don't want to give you the satisfaction.
First the Eagles, now the Stones? :^)
--
--Sawfish
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> "The Ayatolla of Rock and Rolla!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It's bizarre.
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”What evil eats the hearts of brave young men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
Finally, rest. Maybe not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSdGrwVdWNo
On 6/12/23 5:47 PM, Court_1 wrote:speech.
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 8:35:59 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/12/23 4:55 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 3:58:22 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
On 12.6.2023 1.44, Court_1 wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
"Be in the present moment, forget about what happened in the past. The future is something that is just going to happen—but if you want a better future, you create it. Take the means in your hands. Believe it."--Djokovic in RG trophy presentation
to admitting that they themselves have failed in some way.No, they don't get it. Just go on social media and read the comments of some fanatics. They literally live through their idols and sit and watch tennis matches every single day. For them to admit a player other than their favorite is better is akin
"First Novak Djokovic takes your legs. Then he takes your soul."--Andy Roddick
You'll make a good Djok bard!
;)
Maybe I should apply to be one of Djokovic's serfs like his coach Goran is! 😂
In his winner's speech, Djokovic said he puts his team through torture. Can you imagine what a psycho he probably is to work for? There's a reason Vajda left and it had nothing to do with the reason he and Djokovic gave in their press statements.
Re Djokovich, from the Eagle's "Life in the Fast Lane":
"He had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude...
"They said he was ruthless, they said he was crude..."
Court, in my opinion people mostly *do* get what you're saying WRT players playing much older, chronologically...they have for years. I know I have...
I think maybe they just don't want to give you the satisfaction.
First the Eagles, now the Stones? :^)
--
--Sawfish
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The Ayatolla of Rock and Rolla!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It's bizarre.This is funny (in the strange context)...
At a certain point, long time ago, I figured that it was personally
limiting to have "heroes". I dumped all that and made myself my hero.
A hero with feet of clay...and then some, but it put all of the agency
where it belonged...with me.
I would not go back[.
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 8:35:59 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/12/23 4:55 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 3:58:22 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
On 12.6.2023 1.44, Court_1 wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
speech."Be in the present moment, forget about what happened in the past. The future is something that is just going to happen—but if you want a better future, you create it. Take the means in your hands. Believe it."--Djokovic in RG trophy presentation
admitting that they themselves have failed in some way."First Novak Djokovic takes your legs. Then he takes your soul."--Andy Roddick
You'll make a good Djok bard!
;)
Maybe I should apply to be one of Djokovic's serfs like his coach Goran is! 😂
In his winner's speech, Djokovic said he puts his team through torture. Can you imagine what a psycho he probably is to work for? There's a reason Vajda left and it had nothing to do with the reason he and Djokovic gave in their press statements.No, they don't get it. Just go on social media and read the comments of some fanatics. They literally live through their idols and sit and watch tennis matches every single day. For them to admit a player other than their favorite is better is akin to
Re Djokovich, from the Eagle's "Life in the Fast Lane":
"He had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude...
"They said he was ruthless, they said he was crude..."
Court, in my opinion people mostly *do* get what you're saying WRT players playing much older, chronologically...they have for years. I know I have...
I think maybe they just don't want to give you the satisfaction.
First the Eagles, now the Stones? :^)
--
--Sawfish ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The Ayatolla of Rock and Rolla!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It's bizarre.
On Tuesday, 13 June 2023 at 02:09:27 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:presentation speech.
On 6/12/23 5:47 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 8:35:59 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/12/23 4:55 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 3:58:22 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote: >> On 12.6.2023 1.44, Court_1 wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
"Be in the present moment, forget about what happened in the past. The future is something that is just going to happen—but if you want a better future, you create it. Take the means in your hands. Believe it."--Djokovic in RG trophy
to admitting that they themselves have failed in some way.No, they don't get it. Just go on social media and read the comments of some fanatics. They literally live through their idols and sit and watch tennis matches every single day. For them to admit a player other than their favorite is better is akin
"First Novak Djokovic takes your legs. Then he takes your soul."--Andy Roddick
You'll make a good Djok bard!
;)
Maybe I should apply to be one of Djokovic's serfs like his coach Goran is! 😂
In his winner's speech, Djokovic said he puts his team through torture. Can you imagine what a psycho he probably is to work for? There's a reason Vajda left and it had nothing to do with the reason he and Djokovic gave in their press statements.
Re Djokovich, from the Eagle's "Life in the Fast Lane":
"He had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude...
"They said he was ruthless, they said he was crude..."
Court, in my opinion people mostly *do* get what you're saying WRT players playing much older, chronologically...they have for years. I know I have...
I think maybe they just don't want to give you the satisfaction.
First the Eagles, now the Stones? :^)
--
--Sawfish
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The Ayatolla of Rock and Rolla!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It's bizarre.This is funny (in the strange context)...
At a certain point, long time ago, I figured that it was personally limiting to have "heroes". I dumped all that and made myself my hero.
A hero with feet of clay...and then some, but it put all of the agency where it belonged...with me.
I would not go back[.how is it limiting to have heroes? heroes give you things to aim for, everyone great has heroes, Fed/Djoker loved Sampras and wanted to be like him.
On Tuesday, 13 June 2023 at 02:09:27 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:speech.
On 6/12/23 5:47 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 8:35:59 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/12/23 4:55 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 3:58:22 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote: >>>> On 12.6.2023 1.44, Court_1 wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
"Be in the present moment, forget about what happened in the past. The future is something that is just going to happen—but if you want a better future, you create it. Take the means in your hands. Believe it."--Djokovic in RG trophy presentation
to admitting that they themselves have failed in some way.No, they don't get it. Just go on social media and read the comments of some fanatics. They literally live through their idols and sit and watch tennis matches every single day. For them to admit a player other than their favorite is better is akin
"First Novak Djokovic takes your legs. Then he takes your soul."--Andy Roddick
You'll make a good Djok bard!
;)
Maybe I should apply to be one of Djokovic's serfs like his coach Goran is! 😂
In his winner's speech, Djokovic said he puts his team through torture. Can you imagine what a psycho he probably is to work for? There's a reason Vajda left and it had nothing to do with the reason he and Djokovic gave in their press statements.
Re Djokovich, from the Eagle's "Life in the Fast Lane":
"He had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude...
"They said he was ruthless, they said he was crude..."
Court, in my opinion people mostly *do* get what you're saying WRT players playing much older, chronologically...they have for years. I know I have...
I think maybe they just don't want to give you the satisfaction.
First the Eagles, now the Stones? :^)
--
--Sawfish
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The Ayatolla of Rock and Rolla!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For very many, having a hero is a way out. They content themselves tohow is it limiting to have heroes? heroes give you things to aim for,This is funny (in the strange context)...
It's bizarre.
At a certain point, long time ago, I figured that it was personally
limiting to have "heroes". I dumped all that and made myself my hero.
A hero with feet of clay...and then some, but it put all of the agency
where it belonged...with me.
I would not go back[.
everyone great has heroes, Fed/Djoker loved Sampras and wanted to be like him.
On 6/16/23 3:34 AM, The Iceberg wrote:presentation speech.
On Tuesday, 13 June 2023 at 02:09:27 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/12/23 5:47 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 8:35:59 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/12/23 4:55 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 3:58:22 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote: >>>> On 12.6.2023 1.44, Court_1 wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
"Be in the present moment, forget about what happened in the past. The future is something that is just going to happen—but if you want a better future, you create it. Take the means in your hands. Believe it."--Djokovic in RG trophy
to admitting that they themselves have failed in some way.No, they don't get it. Just go on social media and read the comments of some fanatics. They literally live through their idols and sit and watch tennis matches every single day. For them to admit a player other than their favorite is better is akin
"First Novak Djokovic takes your legs. Then he takes your soul."--Andy Roddick
You'll make a good Djok bard!
;)
Maybe I should apply to be one of Djokovic's serfs like his coach Goran is! 😂
In his winner's speech, Djokovic said he puts his team through torture. Can you imagine what a psycho he probably is to work for? There's a reason Vajda left and it had nothing to do with the reason he and Djokovic gave in their press statements.
Re Djokovich, from the Eagle's "Life in the Fast Lane":
"He had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude...
"They said he was ruthless, they said he was crude..."
Court, in my opinion people mostly *do* get what you're saying WRT players playing much older, chronologically...they have for years. I know I have...
I think maybe they just don't want to give you the satisfaction.
First the Eagles, now the Stones? :^)
--
--Sawfish
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The Ayatolla of Rock and Rolla!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For very many, having a hero is a way out. They content themselves tohow is it limiting to have heroes? heroes give you things to aim for,This is funny (in the strange context)...
It's bizarre.
At a certain point, long time ago, I figured that it was personally
limiting to have "heroes". I dumped all that and made myself my hero.
A hero with feet of clay...and then some, but it put all of the agency
where it belonged...with me.
I would not go back[.
live vicariously thru their heroes. Look at the fucked up soccer fans.
everyone great has heroes, Fed/Djoker loved Sampras and wanted to be like him.That, too, is the wrong approach. It's useful to have a physical model
to look to, to try to get the ideas of proper mechanics, but so far as
I'm concerned, it stops right there. Their ideas, preferences,
personality traits, philosophies need to be evaluated separately from
their tennis mechanics.
There's personal charm, too, and that's yet another thing. You can like someone on this level, but it should not affect your evaluation of their tennis mechanics or the content of their ideas. Yet the reverse often happens: people, suckers for the "hero" thingie, really like a player's game. They then leak this bias over onto the player's personality, their ideas, etc. They *like* the player, think he/she has worthy ideas.
This is like Osaka, a mental/emotional lightweight if ever there was
one, but a very good tennis play of the power variety. So she gained attention with her game, and then proceeded to demonstrate just how
naive, superficial, and immature she was in her thinking and ideas. And
yet more than a few bought it. For a while.
Consider Federer. He is a magnificently talented and graceful tennis athlete, who has a blah personality. To his credit, he expresses no
serious ideas that I've ever heard of. He is well-groomed and
scrupulously polite. He has a bland existence outside of tennis. Compare this to Taylor Fritz. Seems positive and happy, is playing over his
head, has a sort of gold-diggerish girlfriend who looks like she'd drop
him the instant his annual winnings drop below the mid 6-figure range.
It's kinda like an Eagles' song... :^)
Interesting personal backstory there, which is absent from Federer's
life, and I'll bet Fritz is *somebody's* personal hero.
So it would be fine to think that you'd like Sampras' forehand, or his overhead, but not necessarily that you should like all parts of his
game, and the man, himself.
People do this all the time--they surrender their judgement in many important areas to a personal hero. This is a very dumb way to dodge personal agency, and dodging personal agency in any sense is a VERY BAD idea.
not really cos you seem to be assuming everything can come from "yourself", which it can't.
On Friday, 16 June 2023 at 15:53:36 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:presentation speech.
On 6/16/23 3:34 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 June 2023 at 02:09:27 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/12/23 5:47 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 8:35:59 PM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/12/23 4:55 PM, Court_1 wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 3:58:22 AM UTC-4, Pelle Svanslös wrote: >>>>>> On 12.6.2023 1.44, Court_1 wrote:
On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
“And, when you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0
Well done, Novak
🐐
"Be in the present moment, forget about what happened in the past. The future is something that is just going to happen—but if you want a better future, you create it. Take the means in your hands. Believe it."--Djokovic in RG trophy
to admitting that they themselves have failed in some way.No, they don't get it. Just go on social media and read the comments of some fanatics. They literally live through their idols and sit and watch tennis matches every single day. For them to admit a player other than their favorite is better is akin
"First Novak Djokovic takes your legs. Then he takes your soul."--Andy Roddick
You'll make a good Djok bard!
;)
Maybe I should apply to be one of Djokovic's serfs like his coach Goran is! 😂
In his winner's speech, Djokovic said he puts his team through torture. Can you imagine what a psycho he probably is to work for? There's a reason Vajda left and it had nothing to do with the reason he and Djokovic gave in their press statements.
Re Djokovich, from the Eagle's "Life in the Fast Lane":
"He had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude...
"They said he was ruthless, they said he was crude..."
Court, in my opinion people mostly *do* get what you're saying WRT players playing much older, chronologically...they have for years. I know I have...
I think maybe they just don't want to give you the satisfaction.
First the Eagles, now the Stones? :^)
--
--Sawfish
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The Ayatolla of Rock and Rolla!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
and he was totally right about the vax, about Ukraine/Kosovo etc.think you're confusing having a hero as a mentor rather than idolising someone.For very many, having a hero is a way out. They content themselves tohow is it limiting to have heroes? heroes give you things to aim for,This is funny (in the strange context)...
It's bizarre.
At a certain point, long time ago, I figured that it was personally
limiting to have "heroes". I dumped all that and made myself my hero.
A hero with feet of clay...and then some, but it put all of the agency >>>> where it belonged...with me.
I would not go back[.
live vicariously thru their heroes. Look at the fucked up soccer fans.
no cos it's not just the physical modelling, it's everything else too that goes with them - the attitude, the ideas etc. you reckon you should only model Djoker's physical strokes?! his discipline in training is clearly way better than everyone elseseveryone great has heroes, Fed/Djoker loved Sampras and wanted to be like him.That, too, is the wrong approach. It's useful to have a physical model
to look to, to try to get the ideas of proper mechanics, but so far as
I'm concerned, it stops right there. Their ideas, preferences,
personality traits, philosophies need to be evaluated separately from
their tennis mechanics.
Also absolutely everyone successful has a hero or "mentor"(as is the PC term for them) from Michael Jordan to Warren Buffet. People who claim they don't have a "hero" usually do, they're just much lower key than famous people, like it'll be theirparents.
Are you serious here, Ice?There's personal charm, too, and that's yet another thing. You can likeoh see what you mean here, yes, that is very child-like, means they are over-riding anything sensible/obvious. It like wanting to sing like George Michael or Freddie Mercury, which is good thing to aim for, but reckoning they had perfect lifestyles too.
someone on this level, but it should not affect your evaluation of their
tennis mechanics or the content of their ideas. Yet the reverse often
happens: people, suckers for the "hero" thingie, really like a player's
game. They then leak this bias over onto the player's personality, their
ideas, etc. They *like* the player, think he/she has worthy ideas.
This is like Osaka, a mental/emotional lightweight if ever there was
one, but a very good tennis play of the power variety. So she gained
attention with her game, and then proceeded to demonstrate just how
naive, superficial, and immature she was in her thinking and ideas. And
yet more than a few bought it. For a while.
Consider Federer. He is a magnificently talented and graceful tennishe's the #1 USA player and was the #1 World Junior, he's bound to be. Know your true hero is Tiafoe and he doubtless a hero to many too.
athlete, who has a blah personality. To his credit, he expresses no
serious ideas that I've ever heard of. He is well-groomed and
scrupulously polite. He has a bland existence outside of tennis. Compare
this to Taylor Fritz. Seems positive and happy, is playing over his
head, has a sort of gold-diggerish girlfriend who looks like she'd drop
him the instant his annual winnings drop below the mid 6-figure range.
It's kinda like an Eagles' song... :^)
Interesting personal backstory there, which is absent from Federer's
life, and I'll bet Fritz is *somebody's* personal hero.
So it would be fine to think that you'd like Sampras' forehand, or hiswhat?! Sampras' serve, volleys, his whole game were brilliant too, he rich, hugely successful, humble, quiet, devoted family man, even his hero was Laver for the same reasons, not quite sure what would on earth would be bad about emulating him as a man.
overhead, but not necessarily that you should like all parts of his
game, and the man, himself.
I agree a lot of life is monkey see, monkey do, but I'm saying that youPeople do this all the time--they surrender their judgement in manynot really cos you seem to be assuming everything can come from "yourself", which it can't.
important areas to a personal hero. This is a very dumb way to dodge
personal agency, and dodging personal agency in any sense is a VERY BAD
idea.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
not really cos you seem to be assuming everything can come from "yourself", which it can't.
Yes, that's clearly wrong.
Man is shallow and incomplete. If we look deeply into ourselves, we would be terrified and disappointed at what we see. It's an abyss.
That's why we need Jesus.
Clearly, Sawfish will understand this. Most people don't even look deep into themselves so they're not at risk at facing this terrifying prospect.
this has always been the case, from 2003 to around 2012 the Fedfans would often physically threaten me whenever I proved that Sampras was better!
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