Amazing youngsters, but it was expected.
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On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:52:25AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:> Amazing youngsters, but it was expected. > > > -- > > > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI didn't expect it, honestly.I thought Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energy too quickly.
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:52:25 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
Amazing youngsters, but it was expected.I didn't expect it, honestly. I thought Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energy too quickly.
On 10/06/2023 5:37 am, Shakes wrote:> On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:52:25AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:>> Amazing youngsters, but it was expected.>>>>> I didn't expect it, honestly. I thought Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energytoo quickly.Everyone was surprised no one moreso than Carlos, prob thought it couldn't happen given his youth. Fully deserved win for Novak of course but a huge break imo.
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:52:25 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:
Amazing youngsters, but it was expected.
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On 10/06/2023 5:37 am, Shakes wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:52:25 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:Everyone was surprised no one moreso than Carlos, prob thought it
Amazing youngsters, but it was expected.I didn't expect it, honestly. I thought Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energy too quickly.
couldn't happen given his youth. Fully deserved win for Novak of course
but a huge break imo.
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 3:37:13 PM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:
I didn't expect it, honestly. I thought Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energy too quickly.
I'm surprised you of all people are saying that! Djokovic's tactics made Alcaraz expend too much energy. Listen to Gill Gross's match analysis on YouTube.
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:11:49 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:1st 2 sets, where I felt it was unnecessary. He needs to ration his energy better. OTOH, it's also possible that he is the type of player who cramps easily (Rafter is another player who was similar in that regard).
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 3:37:13 PM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:
I didn't expect it, honestly. I thought Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energy too quickly.
I'm surprised you of all people are saying that! Djokovic's tactics made Alcaraz expend too much energy. Listen to Gill Gross's match analysis on YouTube.I guess I shouldn't have been that surprised. Alcaraz is still young and overly enthusiastic. But I thought he had enough experience behind him by now to know how to conserve energy in a best-of-5 slam SF. He ran around like crazy on some points in the
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:40:51PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:> On 10/06/2023 5:37 am, Shakes wrote: > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:52:25AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote: > >> Amazing youngsters, but it was expected. > >> > >>> > I didn't expect it,honestly. I thought Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energy too quickly.> Everyone was surprised no one moreso than Carlos, prob thought it > couldn't happen given his youth. Fully deserved win for Novak of course > but a huge break
On 10/06/2023 5:37 am, Shakes wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:52:25 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:Everyone was surprised no one moreso than Carlos, prob thought it
Amazing youngsters, but it was expected.I didn't expect it, honestly. I thought Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energy too quickly.
couldn't happen given his youth. Fully deserved win for Novak of course
but a huge break imo.
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:11:49 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:1st 2 sets, where I felt it was unnecessary. He needs to ration his energy better. OTOH, it's also possible that he is the type of player who cramps easily (Rafter is another player who was similar in that regard).
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 3:37:13 PM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:
I didn't expect it, honestly. I thought Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energy too quickly.
I'm surprised you of all people are saying that! Djokovic's tactics made Alcaraz expend too much energy. Listen to Gill Gross's match analysis on YouTube.I guess I shouldn't have been that surprised. Alcaraz is still young and overly enthusiastic. But I thought he had enough experience behind him by now to know how to conserve energy in a best-of-5 slam SF. He ran around like crazy on some points in the
Maybe we can call upon Whisper to tell us if this was a choke.
:^)
Mr wisdom shows up after the match to give us again the wise news :)
Alcaraz was the favorite to win with good margins. He was better technically and physically but people didn't expect that he is going to be nervous to the extent that his entire body cramped.
He was off from the beginning of the first set making weird errors, now knowing he was nervous explains it.
Carlos Alcaraz said the cramps that afflicted him in his French Open semi-final loss to Novak Djokovic were a result of tension and nerves during the match, which he described as something he had never experienced before in his life. 'It's been reallytough for me, honestly. I disappointed myself,' said the Spaniard.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2023/jun/10/carlos-alcaraz-french-open-semi-final-cramps-were-caused-by-nerves-video#
On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 1:44:41 AM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:the 1st 2 sets, where I felt it was unnecessary. He needs to ration his energy better. OTOH, it's also possible that he is the type of player who cramps easily (Rafter is another player who was similar in that regard).
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:11:49 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 3:37:13 PM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:I guess I shouldn't have been that surprised. Alcaraz is still young and overly enthusiastic. But I thought he had enough experience behind him by now to know how to conserve energy in a best-of-5 slam SF. He ran around like crazy on some points in
I didn't expect it, honestly. I thought Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energy too quickly.
I'm surprised you of all people are saying that! Djokovic's tactics made Alcaraz expend too much energy. Listen to Gill Gross's match analysis on YouTube.
That's how I play (because I am old). I won't chase down balls that will give me a very small chance of possibly winning the point. I will only chase balls down that will at least allow me to get back in the point on level footing (50/50 >chance). I amnot saying Alcaraz should do exactly that but he should adjust the get every ball attitude.
Alcaraz was the favorite to win with good margins. He was better technically and physically but people didn't expect that he is going to be nervous to the extent that his entire body cramped.
He was off from the beginning of the first set making weird errors, now knowing he was nervous explains it.
Carlos Alcaraz said the cramps that afflicted him in his French Open semi-final loss to Novak Djokovic were a result of tension and nerves during the match, which he described as something he had never experienced before in his life. >'It's been reallytough for me, honestly. I disappointed myself,' said the Spaniard.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2023/jun/10/carlos-alcaraz-french-open-semi-final-cramps-were-caused-by-nerves-video#
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:40:51 PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
On 10/06/2023 5:37 am, Shakes wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:52:25 AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote:Everyone was surprised no one moreso than Carlos, prob thought it
Amazing youngsters, but it was expected.I didn't expect it, honestly. I thought Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energy too quickly.
couldn't happen given his youth. Fully deserved win for Novak of course
but a huge break imo.
Djoker should have won the second set?
On 6/10/23 8:25 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:rMaybe we can call upon Whisper to tell us if this was a choke.
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:40:51PM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:> OnMr wisdom shows up after the match to give us again the wise news :)
10/06/2023 5:37 am, Shakes wrote: > > On Friday, June 9, 2023 at
8:52:25AM UTC-7, PeteWasLucky wrote: > >> Amazing youngsters, but it
was expected. > >> > >>> > I didn't expect it, honestly. I thought
Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energy too
quickly.> Everyone was surprised no one moreso than Carlos, prob
thought it > couldn't happen given his youth. Fully deserved win for
Novak of course > but a huge break imo.I haven't watched much tennis
for a while but I did watch most of the Djokovic-Alcaraz match today.
I have no idea why people thought Alcaraz was the favorite for this
match? Previously, they played one time, not at a slam. Everybody
should know by now that Djokovic doesn't give two craps about best of
three any longer and all of his energy goes into best of five
matches. The stand-alone slam record is at stake which is the only
pertinent record left for Djokovic. Why would he monkey
around?Alcaraz is only 20. Remember Djokovic and Federer at age 20?
They were not even close to what they eventually became. Alcaraz has
plenty of time to get it all together. Players are hitting peak/prime
much later and 35 of today is nothing like 35 of a decade or more
ago. Things progress. I can't fathom why so many fanatics don't
understand this concept.Djokovic is a ridiculous player. Better than
Nadal and Federer. I've accepted it. Everybody else should too
instead of making up all of these silly excuses such as Federer
couldn't beat Djokovic because of the six year age difference. Give
me a break with that nonsense. All you have to do is look at a chart
of the stats of Djokovic, Federer and Nadal. The conclusion is
glaringly obvious and I'm saying this as somebody who will always
prefer the aesthetically pleasing game that Federer had and as
somebody who disliked Djokovic's on-court BS. But, after a while, it
reaches a point where it's absurd to keep coming up with inane
excuses as to why Federer was greater. Again, look at their stats
side by side!Djokovic is number 1 and Federer and Nadal lunatic fans
can duke it out and argue about who is number 2 and 3. For me,
Federer is greater than Nadal.
Alcaraz was the favorite to win with good margins. He was better
technically and physically but people didn't expect that he is going
to be nervous to the extent that his entire body cramped.
He was off from the beginning of the first set making weird errors,
now knowing he was nervous explains it.
Carlos Alcaraz said the cramps that afflicted him in his French Open
semi-final loss to Novak Djokovic were a result of tension and nerves
during the match, which he described as something he had never
experienced before in his life. 'It's been really tough for me,
honestly. I disappointed myself,' said the Spaniard.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2023/jun/10/carlos-alcaraz-french-open-semi-final-cramps-were-caused-by-nerves-video#
:^)
On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 1:44:41 AM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:the 1st 2 sets, where I felt it was unnecessary. He needs to ration his energy better. OTOH, it's also possible that he is the type of player who cramps easily (Rafter is another player who was similar in that regard).
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:11:49 PM UTC-7, Court_1 wrote:
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 3:37:13 PM UTC-4, Shakes wrote:I guess I shouldn't have been that surprised. Alcaraz is still young and overly enthusiastic. But I thought he had enough experience behind him by now to know how to conserve energy in a best-of-5 slam SF. He ran around like crazy on some points in
I didn't expect it, honestly. I thought Alcaraz was smarter than this. He expended too much energy too quickly.
I'm surprised you of all people are saying that! Djokovic's tactics made Alcaraz expend too much energy. Listen to Gill Gross's match analysis on YouTube.
It's one thing to play Tsitsipas(don't get me started on him and his lack of progress) and Musetti in a grand slam and beat them but it's quite another thing to play Gumby, the freak Pipe Cleaner in a final! That was a few steps too far >for Alcarazand this juncture. He'll get there.
On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 11:47:11 AM UTC-4, Sawfish wrote:
Maybe we can call upon Whisper to tell us if this was a choke.
:^)
Why? Does Whisper say a lot of players choke? I haven't been around for a long time. I don't know what's been going on around here.
It sure wasn't the best performance by Alcaraz. But it was a tough mountain to climb to try and beat a motivated Djokovic with no Nadal around at RG at this stage.
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