... but Sabalenka is really battering her. So farm Muchova's slices and defense have been just enough, but not sure if she can sustain it.Muchova hang in the match, in the 2nd last game she just defended from the middle of the court,
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 12:23:24 AM UTC+10, stephenj wrote:
... but Sabalenka is really battering her. So farm Muchova's slices andMuchova hang in the match, in the 2nd last game she just defended from the middle of the court,
defense have been just enough, but not sure if she can sustain it.
Sabalenka just cracked with load of errors.
On 6/8/2023 11:28 AM, jlia...@gmail.com wrote:I am happy to see the all court play of Muchova triumph over the crushing power of Sabalenka.
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 12:23:24 AM UTC+10, stephenj wrote:I was happy that Muchova won
... but Sabalenka is really battering her. So farm Muchova's slices and >> defense have been just enough, but not sure if she can sustain it.Muchova hang in the match, in the 2nd last game she just defended from the middle of the court,
Sabalenka just cracked with load of errors.
I was happy that Muchova wonI am happy to see the all court play of Muchova triumph over the crushing power of Sabalenka.
I was happy that Muchova won> I am happy to see the all court play of Muchova triumph over the crushing power of Sabalenka.Yes, Muchova's all-court game is nice to watch, but that was the choke of the year from Sabalenka.
semis-against-karolina-muchova-despite-holding-match-point/I didn't watch it, but 6(5)-7 7-6(5) 5-7 is hardly a choke as a loss? > Well, Muchova deserves credit for hanging tough down the stretch, but...https://firstsportz.com/tennis-news-aryna-sabalenka-gets-roasted-by-fans-for-bottling-french-open-
I haven't seen it so I'm not commenting.
But generally speaking I assume choking is fear of losing, e.g. being in a winning position, having a commanding lead and being in control gamewise, and then not winning.
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I haven't seen it so I'm not commenting. > > But generally speaking I assume choking is fear of losing, e.g. being in a winning position, having a commanding lead and being in control gamewise, and then not winning.> -- Exactly.
I didn't watch it, but 6(5)-7 7-6(5) 5-7 is hardly a choke as a loss?
I don't see this as some choke, really. It's just a close match. But in doesn't matter really, it's all subjective.
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I didn't watch it, but 6(5)-7 7-6(5) 5-7 is hardly a choke as a loss? > Well, Muchova deserves credit for hanging tough down the stretch, but...https://firstsportz.com/tennis-news-aryna-sabalenka-gets-roasted-by-fans-for-bottling-french-open-
I haven't seen it so I'm not commenting.
But generally speaking I assume choking is fear of losing, e.g. being in a winning position, having a commanding lead and being in control gamewise, and then not winning.
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Two-pack <orkon...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
Well I checked the scores, Muhova broke first in set 1 at 4:4 and served for the set, but Sabalenka broke back to 5:5.I haven't seen it so I'm not commenting. > > But generally speaking I assume choking is fear of losing, e.g. being in a winning position, having a commanding lead and being in control gamewise, and then not winning.> -- Exactly.
So no choke here from Sabalenka, in fact she prolonged the set but she then lost tiebreak.
In set 2, Muhova led with a break from 2:0 and Sabalenka again came back to force a tiebreak which this time she won.
So realistically, Muhova could have won 6:4 6:3 had she just held her serves. You could say she choked since she didn't win 6:4 6:3.
In set 3, Sabalenka made a break and led 5:2, her first lead in a match, but remember, 5:2 with Muhova on serve is just one break.
She won her serve to make it 5-3, broke back to make it 5:4 and won her serve again to make it 5:5.
She won 7:5.
I don't see this as some choke, really. It's just a close match. But in doesn't matter really, it's all subjective.
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On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:40:36 AM UTC+10, *skriptis wrote:> Two-pack <orkon...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> > > > > I didn't watch it, but 6(5)-7 7-6(5) 5-7 is hardly a choke as a loss? > Well, Muchova deserves credit for hanging tough down thestretch, but...https://firstsportz.com/tennis-news-aryna-sabalenka-gets-roasted-by-fans-for-bottling-french-open-semis-against-karolina-muchova-despite-holding-match-point/> I haven't seen it so I'm not commenting. > > But generally speaking I assume
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> > I was happy that Muchova won> I am happy to see the all court play of Muchova triumph over the crushing power of Sabalenka.Yes, Muchova's all-court game is nice to watch, but that was the choke of the year from Sabalenka.
I didn't watch it, but 6(5)-7 7-6(5) 5-7 is hardly a choke as a loss?
I don't see this as some choke, really. It's just a close match. But in doesn't matter really, it's all subjective.
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Yes, it's all subjective, and in my subjective opinion it was the choke of the year.
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I didn't watch it, but 6(5)-7 7-6(5) 5-7 is hardly a choke as a loss? > Well, Muchova deserves credit for hanging tough down the stretch, but...https://firstsportz.com/tennis-news-aryna-sabalenka-gets-roasted-by-fans-for-bottling-french-open-semis-
I haven't seen it so I'm not commenting.
But generally speaking I assume choking is fear of losing, e.g. being in a winning position, having a commanding lead and being in control gamewise, and then not winning.
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I didn't watch it, but 6(5)-7 7-6(5) 5-7 is hardly a choke as a loss? > Well, Muchova deserves credit for hanging tough down the stretch, but...https://firstsportz.com/tennis-news-aryna-sabalenka-gets-roasted-by-fans-for-bottling-french-open-semis-
change over.I haven't seen it so I'm not commenting.
But generally speaking I assume choking is fear of losing, e.g. being in a winning position, having a commanding lead and being in control gamewise, and then not winning.
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I was more case of grabbing defeat from the jaw of victory. From having the match point at 2:5 Sabalenka lost 20 of the next 24 points they played, this was against Muchova who was slowed, tired and crapping, was massaging her right >leg during the
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:05:39 AM UTC+10, *skriptis wrote:successive double fault at that point to bring the game back to deuce. I think losing 20 out of last 24 points in this match explain quite a bit about the choke.
Two-pack <orkon...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
Well I checked the scores, Muhova broke first in set 1 at 4:4 and served for the set, but Sabalenka broke back to 5:5.I haven't seen it so I'm not commenting. > > But generally speaking I assume choking is fear of losing, e.g. being in a winning position, having a commanding lead and being in control gamewise, and then not winning.> -- Exactly.
So no choke here from Sabalenka, in fact she prolonged the set but she then lost tiebreak.
In set 2, Muhova led with a break from 2:0 and Sabalenka again came back to force a tiebreak which this time she won.
So realistically, Muhova could have won 6:4 6:3 had she just held her serves. You could say she choked since she didn't win 6:4 6:3.
In set 3, Sabalenka made a break and led 5:2, her first lead in a match, but remember, 5:2 with Muhova on serve is just one break.
She won her serve to make it 5-3, broke back to make it 5:4 and won her serve again to make it 5:5.
She won 7:5.
I don't see this as some choke, really. It's just a close match. But in doesn't matter really, it's all subjective.
But you did not see the game at 5:5 when Sabalenka was serving, she had a lead of 40:15 and one commentator in Australia said if Sabalenka win this game it would be game, set and match as Muchova was clearly struggling physically. >Sabalenka served
I was happy that Muchova wonI am happy to see the all court play of Muchova triumph over the crushing power of Sabalenka.
Yes, Muchova's all-court game is nice to watch, but that was the choke of the year from Sabalenka.
On 9/06/2023 8:32 am, Two-pack wrote:
I don't see this as some choke, really. It's just a close match. But in doesn't matter really, it's all subjective.
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Yes, it's all subjective, and in my subjective opinion it was the choke of the year.I watched the whole match. Fearless hitting all match long, amazing
effort from both girls. You'd have to be pretty stupid to call it a
choke, no offense.
On 9/06/2023 12:54 pm, jlia...@gmail.com wrote:successive double fault at that point to bring the game back to deuce. I think losing 20 out of last 24 points in this match explain quite a bit about the choke.
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 8:05:39 AM UTC+10, *skriptis wrote:
Two-pack <orkon...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
Well I checked the scores, Muhova broke first in set 1 at 4:4 and served for the set, but Sabalenka broke back to 5:5.I haven't seen it so I'm not commenting. > > But generally speaking I assume choking is fear of losing, e.g. being in a winning position, having a commanding lead and being in control gamewise, and then not winning.> -- Exactly.
So no choke here from Sabalenka, in fact she prolonged the set but she then lost tiebreak.
In set 2, Muhova led with a break from 2:0 and Sabalenka again came back to force a tiebreak which this time she won.
So realistically, Muhova could have won 6:4 6:3 had she just held her serves. You could say she choked since she didn't win 6:4 6:3.
In set 3, Sabalenka made a break and led 5:2, her first lead in a match, but remember, 5:2 with Muhova on serve is just one break.
She won her serve to make it 5-3, broke back to make it 5:4 and won her serve again to make it 5:5.
She won 7:5.
I don't see this as some choke, really. It's just a close match. But in doesn't matter really, it's all subjective.
But you did not see the game at 5:5 when Sabalenka was serving, she had a lead of 40:15 and one commentator in Australia said if Sabalenka win this game it would be game, set and match as Muchova was clearly struggling physically. >Sabalenka served
So Sab didn't choke going from 5-2 and match point to 5-5, but only
choked at 5-5 40-15? That means she didn't choke when in a winning
position, only when it got even.
On 9/06/2023 7:21 am, *skriptis wrote:
Two-pack <orkon.welk@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> > I was happy that Muchova won> I am happy to see the all court
play of Muchova triumph over the crushing power of Sabalenka.Yes,
Muchova's all-court game is nice to watch, but that was the choke of
the year from Sabalenka.
I didn't watch it, but 6(5)-7 7-6(5) 5-7 is hardly a choke as a loss?
Not a choke imo. Muchova played great the whole match, never gave Sab
easy points and went for winners when she could. 1 break lead is
hardly insurmountable.
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 5:56:53 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
On 9/06/2023 8:32 am, Two-pack wrote:
I watched the whole match. Fearless hitting all match long, amazing
I don't see this as some choke, really. It's just a close match. But in doesn't matter really, it's all subjective.
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Yes, it's all subjective, and in my subjective opinion it was the choke of the year.
effort from both girls. You'd have to be pretty stupid to call it a
choke, no offense.
You got to be pretty stupid to not calling this a choke of sort. But we know you are not that switch on .
On 6/9/23 12:53 AM, Whisper wrote:
On 9/06/2023 7:21 am, *skriptis wrote:
Two-pack <orkon.welk@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> > I was happy that Muchova won> I am happy to see the all court
play of Muchova triumph over the crushing power of Sabalenka.Yes,
Muchova's all-court game is nice to watch, but that was the choke of
the year from Sabalenka.
I didn't watch it, but 6(5)-7 7-6(5) 5-7 is hardly a choke as a loss?
Not a choke imo. Muchova played great the whole match, never gave Sab
easy points and went for winners when she could. 1 break lead is
hardly insurmountable.
This is rapidly turning into an Emma Raducanu debate.
On 10/06/2023 1:27 am, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/9/23 12:53 AM, Whisper wrote:
On 9/06/2023 7:21 am, *skriptis wrote:
Two-pack <orkon...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> > I was happy that Muchova won> I am happy to see the all court >>>> play of Muchova triumph over the crushing power of Sabalenka.Yes,
Muchova's all-court game is nice to watch, but that was the choke of >>>> the year from Sabalenka.
I didn't watch it, but 6(5)-7 7-6(5) 5-7 is hardly a choke as a loss? >>>
Not a choke imo. Muchova played great the whole match, never gave Sab
easy points and went for winners when she could. 1 break lead is
hardly insurmountable.
This is rapidly turning into an Emma Raducanu debate.
I've seen plenty of chokes, this was not one of them.
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