On Monday, 5 June 2023 at 15:56:27 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:55:56 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
I don't necessarily mean do you see this in your neighborhood, but more like would you expect to see this on the way to shopping, dining out, going to the gym, etc.?
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/06/open-air-drug-use-is-at-an-all-time-high-in-downtown-portland-police-turn-to-citations-as-fentanyl-crisis-explodes.html
It is useful to know that state law here dictates that the maximum penalty for personal consumption amounts is a written citation will a maximum fine of $100, which can be waived if the person contacts a treatment referral service. There's no requirement to start treatment, just to make contact with the referral service.
There is no increment in penalty--no increase in fine or jail time--if the fee is not paid.
..and of course, if the recipient is homeless, LE may not be able to easily find them again, so there are fewer and fewer citations actually written.
well you personally told them to stop arresting crims, you also fully backed defunding them, remember? what exactly did you expect to happen??Does this look like something you'd find positive?Portland sounds messed up. In Minneapolis the police have stopped responding to many crimes, even auto theft, also messed up.
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 6:16:00 AM UTC-7, The Iceberg wrote:
On Monday, 5 June 2023 at 15:56:27 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:55:56 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
I don't necessarily mean do you see this in your neighborhood, but more
like would you expect to see this on the way to shopping, dining out, going to the gym, etc.?
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/06/open-air-drug-use-is-at-an-all-time-high-in-downtown-portland-police-turn-to-citations-as-fentanyl-crisis-explodes.html
It is useful to know that state law here dictates that the maximum penalty for personal consumption amounts is a written citation will a maximum fine of $100, which can be waived if the person contacts a treatment referral service. There's no requirement to start treatment, just to make contact with the referral service.
There is no increment in penalty--no increase in fine or jail time--if the fee is not paid.
..and of course, if the recipient is homeless, LE may not be able to easily find them again, so there are fewer and fewer citations actually
written.
Wow. I did not. What's your problem? I know, stupidity and low self-esteem. A winning combination!well you personally told them to stop arresting crims, you also fully backed defunding them, remember? what exactly did you expect to happen??Does this look like something you'd find positive?Portland sounds messed up. In Minneapolis the police have stopped responding to many crimes, even auto theft, also messed up.
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 21:49:36 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 6:16:00 AM UTC-7, The Iceberg wrote:
On Monday, 5 June 2023 at 15:56:27 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:55:56 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
I don't necessarily mean do you see this in your neighborhood, but more
like would you expect to see this on the way to shopping, dining out,
going to the gym, etc.?
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/06/open-air-drug-use-is-at-an-all-time-high-in-downtown-portland-police-turn-to-citations-as-fentanyl-crisis-explodes.html
It is useful to know that state law here dictates that the maximum penalty for personal consumption amounts is a written citation will a
maximum fine of $100, which can be waived if the person contacts a treatment referral service. There's no requirement to start treatment,
just to make contact with the referral service.
There is no increment in penalty--no increase in fine or jail time--if
the fee is not paid.
..and of course, if the recipient is homeless, LE may not be able to easily find them again, so there are fewer and fewer citations actually
written.
yes you did, you fully supported BLM + you voted for Biden + you hate Trump = what exactly did you expect to happen? are you amazed the Texas border floodgates have been opened too to get more dems votes too?!Wow. I did not. What's your problem? I know, stupidity and low self-esteem. A winning combination!well you personally told them to stop arresting crims, you also fully backed defunding them, remember? what exactly did you expect to happen??Does this look like something you'd find positive?Portland sounds messed up. In Minneapolis the police have stopped responding to many crimes, even auto theft, also messed up.
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:39:44 AM UTC-7, The Iceberg wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 21:49:36 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 6:16:00 AM UTC-7, The Iceberg wrote:
On Monday, 5 June 2023 at 15:56:27 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:55:56 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
I don't necessarily mean do you see this in your neighborhood, but more
like would you expect to see this on the way to shopping, dining out,
going to the gym, etc.?
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/06/open-air-drug-use-is-at-an-all-time-high-in-downtown-portland-police-turn-to-citations-as-fentanyl-crisis-explodes.html
It is useful to know that state law here dictates that the maximum penalty for personal consumption amounts is a written citation will a
maximum fine of $100, which can be waived if the person contacts a treatment referral service. There's no requirement to start treatment,
just to make contact with the referral service.
There is no increment in penalty--no increase in fine or jail time--if
the fee is not paid.
..and of course, if the recipient is homeless, LE may not be able to
easily find them again, so there are fewer and fewer citations actually
written.
Such a pleasant guy.yes you did, you fully supported BLM + you voted for Biden + you hate Trump = what exactly did you expect to happen? are you amazed the Texas border floodgates have been opened too to get more dems votes too?!Wow. I did not. What's your problem? I know, stupidity and low self-esteem. A winning combination!well you personally told them to stop arresting crims, you also fully backed defunding them, remember? what exactly did you expect to happen??Does this look like something you'd find positive?Portland sounds messed up. In Minneapolis the police have stopped responding to many crimes, even auto theft, also messed up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3luT8JfDKU
On Wednesday, 7 June 2023 at 11:32:23 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:39:44 AM UTC-7, The Iceberg wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 June 2023 at 21:49:36 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 6:16:00 AM UTC-7, The Iceberg wrote:
On Monday, 5 June 2023 at 15:56:27 UTC+1, bmoore wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:55:56 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
I don't necessarily mean do you see this in your neighborhood, but more
like would you expect to see this on the way to shopping, dining out,
going to the gym, etc.?
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/06/open-air-drug-use-is-at-an-all-time-high-in-downtown-portland-police-turn-to-citations-as-fentanyl-crisis-explodes.html
It is useful to know that state law here dictates that the maximum
penalty for personal consumption amounts is a written citation will a
maximum fine of $100, which can be waived if the person contacts a
treatment referral service. There's no requirement to start treatment,
just to make contact with the referral service.
There is no increment in penalty--no increase in fine or jail time--if
the fee is not paid.
..and of course, if the recipient is homeless, LE may not be able to
easily find them again, so there are fewer and fewer citations actually
written.
Such a pleasant guy.yes you did, you fully supported BLM + you voted for Biden + you hate Trump = what exactly did you expect to happen? are you amazed the Texas border floodgates have been opened too to get more dems votes too?!Wow. I did not. What's your problem? I know, stupidity and low self-esteem. A winning combination!well you personally told them to stop arresting crims, you also fully backed defunding them, remember? what exactly did you expect to happen??Does this look like something you'd find positive?Portland sounds messed up. In Minneapolis the police have stopped responding to many crimes, even auto theft, also messed up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3luT8JfDKUwhy cos called you out for voting for Biden, supporting BLM etc? wow just wow
On 6/5/23 7:56 AM, bmoore wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:55:56 AM UTC-7, Sawfish wrote:
I don't necessarily mean do you see this in your neighborhood, but more
like would you expect to see this on the way to shopping, dining out,
going to the gym, etc.?
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/06/open-air-drug-use-is-at-an-all-time-high-in-downtown-portland-police-turn-to-citations-as-fentanyl-crisis-explodes.html
It is useful to know that state law here dictates that the maximum
penalty for personal consumption amounts is a written citation will a
maximum fine of $100, which can be waived if the person contacts a
treatment referral service. There's no requirement to start treatment,
just to make contact with the referral service.
There is no increment in penalty--no increase in fine or jail time--if
the fee is not paid.
..and of course, if the recipient is homeless, LE may not be able to
easily find them again, so there are fewer and fewer citations actually
written.
Does this look like something you'd find positive?
Portland sounds messed up. In Minneapolis the police have stopped
responding to many crimes, even auto theft, also messed up.
Very similar here, especially no response. Seems the same in the major
west coast cities.
I wonder why/how, and if/when this will improve?
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