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    From Fritz Owl@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 3 20:16:15 2017
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    "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message news:hlwdjsd2-E39067.18294303022017@news.giganews.com...
    In article <5894f3c3$0$61788$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>,
    "Fritz Owl" <FritzOwl@hotmail.com> wrote:

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    "Sang Froid" <cold@blood.ed> wrote in message
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    [hogwash snipped]


    Those articles you keep quoting are all a bunch of psychobbble hogwash. I
    consider pychology, as a college major, to be a waster of tuition money.


    And still you refuse to tell us what, precisely, in that article is "hogwash". Why is that?


    So-called "trolls" are NOT psychos or anything else. If that were the case,
    a sizeable chunk of Internet users, including some Congressm Senators would
    be certifably insane, which they are NOT.

    Fore exaample, while I do NOT like Kamala Harris, as you well now, those BULLSHIT articles woudl classify her as a pycho, which she IS *NOT*. She
    does troll Donals Trump on Twitter. While she may be a lot of undesirle
    THINGS, she is NOT a psycho of any kind, yet those BULLSHIT articles that
    Tatz Ziki and Sang Froid keep quoting would classify her that way.

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-kamala-harris-twitter-rants-at-trump-20170203-htmlstory.html

    That is why those articles from the ies ot Psychology today are a load of HORESHIT that would fertilise the Sinai.

    Harris is a lot of undesiable things, but she is NO psycho, which is an
    example of why thoise articles from Psychology today, Time, and Slate are
    all a BUNCH OF *BULLSHIT*, and will be blocked on all company computers
    here. In fact, the ENTIRE psuchology today site is BLOCKED. In addition to porn, and a few other office-inappopriate categories, we also block environmentalist sites. That's right, one of the filtering programs we use
    does allow environmental activism to be blocked. Sites belonging to groups
    like Greenpece or the Sierra Club. The websites of both groups are blocked, well as the Earth Liberation Front, World Widlife Fund, and similar sites.
    And that DOES include sites thiat trumpett the BULLSHIT abuot man made
    global warming.

    And Terry and his minions at PDXISS are not going to want to hear this, but
    the filtering vendors we use all have the PDXISS site blcoked under several categories. Filtering vendors never did like PDXISS very much. When the Bess filtering system, aimed mostly at educatiinal users, existed in the late 90s and early 00s, they were one of the first filtering companies to block
    PDXISS. They considered the Portland Ice Skating Society website to be inappropriate for schools. It appears that PDXISS annoyed someone at the company that was making. it.

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  • From Sang Froid@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 3 21:34:14 2017
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    On 2/3/2017 8:16 PM, Mentally Ill Lying Asshole Troll shits his pant:

    Chuckie is a "troll" and IS psycho.
    Chuckie is certifably insane.

    Truth.

    undesiable

    English much, dumbfuck?

    Take your stupid lies and eat shit and die, trolling asshole.

    Chuckie shits his pants and trolls some more.

    You are certifiably insane. You are a pants-shitting troll.

    NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT ANY OF YOUR STUPID LYING TROLLING
    CRAP, YOU DEMENTED TROLLING ASSHOLE! N-O-B-O-D-Y!

    Shut the fuck up, you lying drooling mentally ill trolling psychopathic shitstain.

    http://time.com/4457110/internet-trolls/

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html

    *Internet Trolls Really Are Horrible People*
    Narcissistic, Machiavellian, Psychopathic, and Sadistic.
    By Chris Mooney
    February 14, 2014

    In the past few years, the science of Internet trollology has made some strides. Last year, for instance, we learned that by hurling insults and inciting discord in online comment sections, so-called Internet trolls
    (who are frequently anonymous) have a polarizing effect on audiences,
    leading to politicization, rather than deeper understanding of
    scientific topics.

    That's bad, but it's nothing compared with what a new psychology paper
    has to say about the personalities of trolls themselves [http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886914000324].
    The research, conducted by Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba
    and two colleagues, sought to directly investigate whether people who
    engage in trolling are characterized by personality traits that fall in
    the so-called Dark Tetrad: Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate
    and deceive others), narcissism (egotism and self-obsession),
    psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and sadism (pleasure in
    the suffering of others).

    It is hard to overplay the results: The study found correlations,
    sometimes quite significant, between these traits and trolling behavior.
    What's more, it also found a relationship between all Dark Tetrad traits (except for narcissism) and the overall time that an individual spent,
    per day, commenting on the Internet.

    In the study, trolls were identified in a variety of ways. One was by
    simply asking survey participants what they "enjoyed doing most" when on
    online comment sites, offering five options: "debating issues that are important to you," "chatting with others," "making new friends,"
    "trolling others," and "other." Here's how different responses about
    these Internet commenting preferences matched up with responses to
    questions designed to identify Dark Tetrad traits: 2

    To be sure, only 5.6 percent of survey respondents actually specified
    that they enjoyed "trolling." By contrast, 41.3 percent of Internet
    users were "non-commenters," meaning they didn't like engaging online at
    all. So trolls are, as has often been suspected, a minority of online commenters, and an even smaller minority of overall Internet users.

    The researchers conducted multiple studies, using samples from Amazon's Mechanical Turk but also of college students, to try to understand why
    the act of trolling seems to attract this type of personality. They even constructed their own survey instrument, which they dubbed the Global Assessment of Internet Trolling, or GAIT, containing the following items:

    * I have sent people to shock websites for the lulz.

    * I like to troll people in forums or the comments section of
    websites.

    * I enjoy griefing [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=griefing] other players
    in multiplayer games.

    * The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it
    is to corrupt.

    Yes, some people actually say they agree with such statements. And
    again, doing so was correlated with sadism in its various forms, with psychopathy, and with Machiavellianism. Overall, the authors found that
    the relationship between sadism and trolling was the strongest, and that indeed, sadists appear to troll because they find it pleasurable. "Both
    trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others," they
    wrote. "Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!" 3

    The study comes as websites, particularly at major media outlets, are increasingly weighing steps to rein in trollish behavior. Last year
    Popular Science did away with its comments sections completely, citing
    research on the deleterious effects of trolling, and YouTube also took
    measures to rein in trolling.

    But study author Buckels actually isn't sure that fix is a realistic
    one. "Because the behaviors are intrinsically motivating for sadists,
    comment moderators will likely have a difficult time curbing trolling
    with punishments (e.g., banning users)," she said by email. "Ultimately,
    the allure of trolling may be too strong for sadists, who presumably
    have limited opportunities to express their sadistic interests in a socially-desirable manner"

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  • From Fritz Owl@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 3 23:41:41 2017
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    "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message news:hlwdjsd2-9FD73C.23321103022017@news.giganews.com...
    In article <58955593$0$43832$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>,
    "Fritz Owl" <FritzOwl@hotmail.com> wrote:

    "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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    In article <5894f3c3$0$61788$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>,
    "Fritz Owl" <FritzOwl@hotmail.com> wrote:

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    "Sang Froid" <cold@blood.ed> wrote in message
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    [hogwash snipped]


    Those articles you keep quoting are all a bunch of psychobbble
    hogwash. I
    consider pychology, as a college major, to be a waster of tuition
    money.


    And still you refuse to tell us what, precisely, in that article is
    "hogwash". Why is that?


    So-called "trolls" are NOT psychos or anything else. If that were the
    case,
    a sizeable chunk of Internet users, including some Congressm Senators
    would
    be certifably insane, which they are NOT.


    Why do you claim that "a sizeable chunk of Internet users" are trolls?
    And what do you consider a "sizeable" chunk? 90%? 80%? 50%? 25%? 10%?


    That also PROVES *WHY* thaose articles are nothing bunch of HORSESHIT. It is these articles that are saying so-callled trolls are psychos when they ARE *NOT*

    That is why I snip the copy of the articles he posts, reaplacing with
    "bullshit snipped", ot something tothat effect.

    So-called "trolls" are *NOT* PSYCHOS!!!!

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  • From Jeanne Douglas@21:1/5 to Fritz Owl on Fri Feb 3 23:32:11 2017
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    In article <58955593$0$43832$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>,
    "Fritz Owl" <FritzOwl@hotmail.com> wrote:

    "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message news:hlwdjsd2-E39067.18294303022017@news.giganews.com...
    In article <5894f3c3$0$61788$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>,
    "Fritz Owl" <FritzOwl@hotmail.com> wrote:

    [subject line restored]

    "Sang Froid" <cold@blood.ed> wrote in message
    news:W15lA.226473$dT1.212583@fx16.am4...

    [hogwash snipped]


    Those articles you keep quoting are all a bunch of psychobbble hogwash. I >> consider pychology, as a college major, to be a waster of tuition money.


    And still you refuse to tell us what, precisely, in that article is "hogwash". Why is that?


    So-called "trolls" are NOT psychos or anything else. If that were the case,
    a sizeable chunk of Internet users, including some Congressm Senators would be certifably insane, which they are NOT.


    Why do you claim that "a sizeable chunk of Internet users" are trolls?
    And what do you consider a "sizeable" chunk? 90%? 80%? 50%? 25%? 10%?

    --

    JD


    "May your winter feast be an orgy of delight"
    -- The Big Furry, Late Show with Stephen
    Colbert

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  • From Jeanne Douglas@21:1/5 to Fritz Owl on Sat Feb 4 02:56:43 2017
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    In article <589585b9$0$43842$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>,
    "Fritz Owl" <FritzOwl@hotmail.com> wrote:

    "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message news:hlwdjsd2-9FD73C.23321103022017@news.giganews.com...
    In article <58955593$0$43832$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>,
    "Fritz Owl" <FritzOwl@hotmail.com> wrote:

    "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
    news:hlwdjsd2-E39067.18294303022017@news.giganews.com...
    In article <5894f3c3$0$61788$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>,
    "Fritz Owl" <FritzOwl@hotmail.com> wrote:

    [subject line restored]

    "Sang Froid" <cold@blood.ed> wrote in message
    news:W15lA.226473$dT1.212583@fx16.am4...

    [hogwash snipped]


    Those articles you keep quoting are all a bunch of psychobbble
    hogwash. I
    consider pychology, as a college major, to be a waster of tuition
    money.


    And still you refuse to tell us what, precisely, in that article is
    "hogwash". Why is that?


    So-called "trolls" are NOT psychos or anything else. If that were the
    case,
    a sizeable chunk of Internet users, including some Congressm Senators
    would
    be certifably insane, which they are NOT.


    Why do you claim that "a sizeable chunk of Internet users" are trolls?
    And what do you consider a "sizeable" chunk? 90%? 80%? 50%? 25%? 10%?


    <snippage of a ridiculously so non-answer to my question>

    Try again. Your answer must contain an actual number, the % number.

    --

    JD


    "May your winter feast be an orgy of delight"
    -- The Big Furry, Late Show with Stephen
    Colbert

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  • From Sang Froid@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 4 08:25:57 2017
    On 2/3/2017 11:41 PM, Mentally Ill Lying Asshole Troll shits his pants:

    Chuckie is a "trolls" and *IS* PSYCHO!!!!

    Take your stupid lies and eat shit and die, trolling asshole.

    Chuckie shits his pants and trolls some more.

    You are certifiably insane. You are a pants-shitting troll.

    NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT ANY OF YOUR STUPID LYING TROLLING
    CRAP, YOU DEMENTED TROLLING ASSHOLE! N-O-B-O-D-Y!

    Shut the fuck up, you lying drooling mentally ill trolling psychopathic shitstain.

    http://time.com/4457110/internet-trolls/

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html

    *Internet Trolls Really Are Horrible People*
    Narcissistic, Machiavellian, Psychopathic, and Sadistic.
    By Chris Mooney
    February 14, 2014

    In the past few years, the science of Internet trollology has made some strides. Last year, for instance, we learned that by hurling insults and inciting discord in online comment sections, so-called Internet trolls
    (who are frequently anonymous) have a polarizing effect on audiences,
    leading to politicization, rather than deeper understanding of
    scientific topics.

    That's bad, but it's nothing compared with what a new psychology paper
    has to say about the personalities of trolls themselves [http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886914000324].
    The research, conducted by Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba
    and two colleagues, sought to directly investigate whether people who
    engage in trolling are characterized by personality traits that fall in
    the so-called Dark Tetrad: Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate
    and deceive others), narcissism (egotism and self-obsession),
    psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and sadism (pleasure in
    the suffering of others).

    It is hard to overplay the results: The study found correlations,
    sometimes quite significant, between these traits and trolling behavior.
    What's more, it also found a relationship between all Dark Tetrad traits (except for narcissism) and the overall time that an individual spent,
    per day, commenting on the Internet.

    In the study, trolls were identified in a variety of ways. One was by
    simply asking survey participants what they "enjoyed doing most" when on
    online comment sites, offering five options: "debating issues that are important to you," "chatting with others," "making new friends,"
    "trolling others," and "other." Here's how different responses about
    these Internet commenting preferences matched up with responses to
    questions designed to identify Dark Tetrad traits: 2

    To be sure, only 5.6 percent of survey respondents actually specified
    that they enjoyed "trolling." By contrast, 41.3 percent of Internet
    users were "non-commenters," meaning they didn't like engaging online at
    all. So trolls are, as has often been suspected, a minority of online commenters, and an even smaller minority of overall Internet users.

    The researchers conducted multiple studies, using samples from Amazon's Mechanical Turk but also of college students, to try to understand why
    the act of trolling seems to attract this type of personality. They even constructed their own survey instrument, which they dubbed the Global Assessment of Internet Trolling, or GAIT, containing the following items:

    * I have sent people to shock websites for the lulz.

    * I like to troll people in forums or the comments section of
    websites.

    * I enjoy griefing [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=griefing] other players
    in multiplayer games.

    * The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it
    is to corrupt.

    Yes, some people actually say they agree with such statements. And
    again, doing so was correlated with sadism in its various forms, with psychopathy, and with Machiavellianism. Overall, the authors found that
    the relationship between sadism and trolling was the strongest, and that indeed, sadists appear to troll because they find it pleasurable. "Both
    trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others," they
    wrote. "Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!" 3

    The study comes as websites, particularly at major media outlets, are increasingly weighing steps to rein in trollish behavior. Last year
    Popular Science did away with its comments sections completely, citing
    research on the deleterious effects of trolling, and YouTube also took
    measures to rein in trolling.

    But study author Buckels actually isn't sure that fix is a realistic
    one. "Because the behaviors are intrinsically motivating for sadists,
    comment moderators will likely have a difficult time curbing trolling
    with punishments (e.g., banning users)," she said by email. "Ultimately,
    the allure of trolling may be too strong for sadists, who presumably
    have limited opportunities to express their sadistic interests in a socially-desirable manner"

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