• $4450 is what I've lost....

    From michael anderson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 20 17:57:14 2023
    on this tourney so far lmao.....

    I'm going to pack it in and stop playing I guess for this one. Was *red rsfcking hot* in the few months on sports most recently prior to this(mostly nfl playoffs) and up way more than that.

    And the weird thing is that my brackets are actually looking good compared to others. I had Purdue out by now(not to FDU of course but to FAU) as they were the sorriest looking 1 seed Ive ever seen. I had Kansas out to Arky as well(just didn't bet that
    game). Didn't have arizona in elite 8 either. So I've done well in terms of the higher seeds being out early(even if not exactly the way it happened in a couple cases), but let's be real nobody had Purdue doing shit anyways lol....

    it's just I didnt bet those games and did bet games like Duke-Tennessee, A&M-Penn State, Pitt-Iowa State. Gonzaga-TCU was also a bullshite ending where the zags choked the cover away that hurt me.

    But come to think of it I'll probably play a few more games in it from here lol.....

    these damn coaches wanting to dump the ball into a big lumbering post player just kills me though. Thats one reason why a team like Alabama has a great chance to win it all is because they know how dumb that is and don't ever do that.....

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to michael anderson on Mon Mar 20 18:53:17 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:57:17 PM UTC-4, michael anderson wrote:
    on this tourney so far lmao.....

    I'm going to pack it in and stop playing I guess for this one. Was *red rsfcking hot* in the few months on sports most recently prior to this(mostly nfl playoffs) and up way more than that.

    And the weird thing is that my brackets are actually looking good compared to others. I had Purdue out by now(not to FDU of course but to FAU) as they were the sorriest looking 1 seed Ive ever seen. I had Kansas out to Arky as well(just didn't bet that
    game). Didn't have arizona in elite 8 either. So I've done well in terms of the higher seeds being out early(even if not exactly the way it happened in a couple cases), but let's be real nobody had Purdue doing shit anyways lol....

    it's just I didnt bet those games and did bet games like Duke-Tennessee, A&M-Penn State, Pitt-Iowa State. Gonzaga-TCU was also a bullshite ending where the zags choked the cover away that hurt me.

    Were the Zags supposed to play defense when they are guaranteed a win on that ridiculous near half court shot?


    But come to think of it I'll probably play a few more games in it from here lol.....

    these damn coaches wanting to dump the ball into a big lumbering post player just kills me though. Thats one reason why a team like Alabama has a great chance to win it all is because they know how dumb that is and don't ever do that.....

    Which of the 16 teams left dumps the ball into their big lumbering post player? Timme doesn't have an outside shot but his hardly lumbering.

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  • From michael anderson@21:1/5 to JGibson on Tue Mar 21 08:44:58 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:53:20 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:57:17 PM UTC-4, michael anderson wrote:
    on this tourney so far lmao.....

    I'm going to pack it in and stop playing I guess for this one. Was *red rsfcking hot* in the few months on sports most recently prior to this(mostly nfl playoffs) and up way more than that.

    And the weird thing is that my brackets are actually looking good compared to others. I had Purdue out by now(not to FDU of course but to FAU) as they were the sorriest looking 1 seed Ive ever seen. I had Kansas out to Arky as well(just didn't bet
    that game). Didn't have arizona in elite 8 either. So I've done well in terms of the higher seeds being out early(even if not exactly the way it happened in a couple cases), but let's be real nobody had Purdue doing shit anyways lol....

    it's just I didnt bet those games and did bet games like Duke-Tennessee, A&M-Penn State, Pitt-Iowa State. Gonzaga-TCU was also a bullshite ending where the zags choked the cover away that hurt me.
    Were the Zags supposed to play defense when they are guaranteed a win on that ridiculous near half court shot?

    I think the players should be more aware of situations with the line and stuff like that......think about it- a lot of the gonzaga supporters were on zags -4/-4.5.........these are the same people who help fund NIL and such. If it's not going to affect
    the game result in any way, sure, why not go ahead and make sure you cover too.

    It's naive to think that gambling isn't driving so much of the interest in pro and college sports. Take away the gambling aspect
    of it, and sports are a lot less popular in general.....so given that, I do think the players themselves should be aware of that.



    But come to think of it I'll probably play a few more games in it from here lol.....

    these damn coaches wanting to dump the ball into a big lumbering post player just kills me though. Thats one reason why a team like Alabama has a great chance to win it all is because they know how dumb that is and don't ever do that.....
    Which of the 16 teams left dumps the ball into their big lumbering post player? Timme doesn't have an outside shot but his hardly lumbering.

    I obviously don't have a detailed scouting report on any of these teams. After all I like most everyone else hasn't watched
    much college basketball before the tourney(it's sad how much the sport has fallen off since I was a
    teen). That said, it's clear to me Oats and Alabama play really analytically driven ball......

    And yes few does make sure to avoid timme being mostly a back to the basket player(he's on the move, rim running for a lot of his 21+ ppg, etc), but it's all a matter of being relative. One issue with these post players is that their personal turnovers
    drastically
    underreport the amount of total turnovers that are made when teams try to dump the ball in to a stationary back to the basket post player. So if like timme ends up turning the ball over 2 to 3 times in a big game when gonzaga tries to 'feed him' down
    low(and again I think they often get him the ball in other ways even though he doesn't take 3s), you can bet that thats really 4 to 6 total turnovers during the game from that......

    it's just a bad bad bad strategy.

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to while the ones during sports progra on Tue Mar 21 10:24:08 2023
    Were the Zags supposed to play defense when they are guaranteed a win on that ridiculous near half court shot?
    I think the players should be more aware of situations with the line and stuff like that.....think about it- a lot of the gonzaga supporters were on zags -4/-4.5.........these are the same people who help fund NIL and such. If it's not going to affect
    the game result in any way, sure, why not go ahead and make sure you cover too.

    "The game isn't on the line...so what if I shave a few points?" There was a time when point shaving was an automatic loss of all eligibility. Today, the only reference to it is, a basketball summer league cannot have anyone ever convicted of point
    shaving (or game fixing) on any of its teams' staffs. I realize we're talking about pretty much the opposite of point shaving, but the principle is similar.

    You don't think that, "We're sorry, but thanks to your sloppy defense, you didn't cover, so we're cutting your NIL," wouldn't be the lead story on SportsCenter that night, if not the front page of half of the newspapers in the country?

    It's naive to think that gambling isn't driving so much of the interest in pro and college sports.

    I believe the correct response to that is, "GEE, ya THINK?"
    Or is there another reason the TV ads for that ballot measure in California to authorize online sports betting that didn't air during sports broadcasts focused mainly on the benefits to others, while the ones during sports programs came right out and
    said it: "Hey - Legalized Online Sports Betting In California!"?

    Take away the gambling aspect of it, and sports are a lot less popular in general.....so given that, I do think the players themselves should be aware of that.

    Players should NEVER be playing with the spread in mind. Any coach who teaches this should not only be fired, but if the NCAA finds out, be given a 10-year show-cause.

    If a portion of a player's NIL money depends on covering the spread, then, for all intents and purposes, the player has a bet on the game. One guess as to how the NCAA, which actually declared a group of Division III baseball players ineligible because
    they were involved in a pay-to-play fantasy football league, feels about that.

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to michael anderson on Tue Mar 21 10:44:58 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 11:45:01 AM UTC-4, michael anderson wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:53:20 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:57:17 PM UTC-4, michael anderson wrote:
    on this tourney so far lmao.....

    I'm going to pack it in and stop playing I guess for this one. Was *red rsfcking hot* in the few months on sports most recently prior to this(mostly nfl playoffs) and up way more than that.

    And the weird thing is that my brackets are actually looking good compared to others. I had Purdue out by now(not to FDU of course but to FAU) as they were the sorriest looking 1 seed Ive ever seen. I had Kansas out to Arky as well(just didn't bet
    that game). Didn't have arizona in elite 8 either. So I've done well in terms of the higher seeds being out early(even if not exactly the way it happened in a couple cases), but let's be real nobody had Purdue doing shit anyways lol....

    it's just I didnt bet those games and did bet games like Duke-Tennessee, A&M-Penn State, Pitt-Iowa State. Gonzaga-TCU was also a bullshite ending where the zags choked the cover away that hurt me.
    Were the Zags supposed to play defense when they are guaranteed a win on that ridiculous near half court shot?
    I think the players should be more aware of situations with the line and stuff like that......think about it- a lot of the gonzaga supporters were on zags -4/-4.5.........these are the same people who help fund NIL and such. If it's not going to affect
    the game result in any way, sure, why not go ahead and make sure you cover too.

    It's naive to think that gambling isn't driving so much of the interest in pro and college sports. Take away the gambling aspect
    of it, and sports are a lot less popular in general.....so given that, I do think the players themselves should be aware of that.

    But come to think of it I'll probably play a few more games in it from here lol.....

    these damn coaches wanting to dump the ball into a big lumbering post player just kills me though. Thats one reason why a team like Alabama has a great chance to win it all is because they know how dumb that is and don't ever do that.....
    Which of the 16 teams left dumps the ball into their big lumbering post player? Timme doesn't have an outside shot but his hardly lumbering.
    I obviously don't have a detailed scouting report on any of these teams. After all I like most everyone else hasn't watched
    much college basketball before the tourney(it's sad how much the sport has fallen off since I was a
    teen). That said, it's clear to me Oats and Alabama play really analytically driven ball......

    It's a lot easier to play that way when you have a player like Brandon Miller. If you look at the top ten kPOY (ken Pomeroy players of the year) candidates and then look at a mock 1st round NBA draft board, Miller is the only one on both lists.

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  • From michael anderson@21:1/5 to JGibson on Tue Mar 21 15:21:29 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:45:00 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 11:45:01 AM UTC-4, michael anderson wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:53:20 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:57:17 PM UTC-4, michael anderson wrote:
    on this tourney so far lmao.....

    I'm going to pack it in and stop playing I guess for this one. Was *red rsfcking hot* in the few months on sports most recently prior to this(mostly nfl playoffs) and up way more than that.

    And the weird thing is that my brackets are actually looking good compared to others. I had Purdue out by now(not to FDU of course but to FAU) as they were the sorriest looking 1 seed Ive ever seen. I had Kansas out to Arky as well(just didn't
    bet that game). Didn't have arizona in elite 8 either. So I've done well in terms of the higher seeds being out early(even if not exactly the way it happened in a couple cases), but let's be real nobody had Purdue doing shit anyways lol....

    it's just I didnt bet those games and did bet games like Duke-Tennessee, A&M-Penn State, Pitt-Iowa State. Gonzaga-TCU was also a bullshite ending where the zags choked the cover away that hurt me.
    Were the Zags supposed to play defense when they are guaranteed a win on that ridiculous near half court shot?
    I think the players should be more aware of situations with the line and stuff like that......think about it- a lot of the gonzaga supporters were on zags -4/-4.5.........these are the same people who help fund NIL and such. If it's not going to
    affect the game result in any way, sure, why not go ahead and make sure you cover too.

    It's naive to think that gambling isn't driving so much of the interest in pro and college sports. Take away the gambling aspect
    of it, and sports are a lot less popular in general.....so given that, I do think the players themselves should be aware of that.

    But come to think of it I'll probably play a few more games in it from here lol.....

    these damn coaches wanting to dump the ball into a big lumbering post player just kills me though. Thats one reason why a team like Alabama has a great chance to win it all is because they know how dumb that is and don't ever do that.....
    Which of the 16 teams left dumps the ball into their big lumbering post player? Timme doesn't have an outside shot but his hardly lumbering.
    I obviously don't have a detailed scouting report on any of these teams. After all I like most everyone else hasn't watched
    much college basketball before the tourney(it's sad how much the sport has fallen off since I was a
    teen). That said, it's clear to me Oats and Alabama play really analytically driven ball......
    It's a lot easier to play that way when you have a player like Brandon Miller. If you look at the top ten kPOY (ken Pomeroy players of the year) candidates and then look at a mock 1st round NBA draft board, Miller is the only one on both lists.

    Oats has been doing it since he came to alabama though and before miller.....there has been a clear emphasis on:

    1) guards having good driving lanes so they can get the rim for a close shot or kick out for open three(ie meaning no post man clogging lane with the defender)
    2) rim running bigs. Oats clearly tells his bigs: "I want you rim running, I don't want you clogging the lane, and I want you protecting the rim on the other end". And even with the latter he picks bigs who won't get smoked if a stretch guy takes them
    out or a team insists on forcing a switch
    3) open three point looks

    You don't neccessarily need a brandon miller top 3-5 nba draft pick to emphasize the above. mississippi state doesn't have any of that for example(and their guards can't shoot worth a shit), but they would have easily won that game abgainst a dreadful
    pitt had they just focused on maximizing principle 1. Miss State had two guards who kept blowing by pitt and converting inside 4 feet, but they couldn't do that as much as they wanted because over half the time their big man was planted on the block and
    that big thin white defender was right next to him lmao. Now you might say "but tolu can't shoot so if he floats out then the big white guy will still stay near the rim". maybe.....but at least one guy to get around and finish through is better than
    two guys lol.....

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