• Is the air starting to come out of the sports rights bubble?

    From xyzzy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 14 22:33:45 2023
    Tl;dr: Regionals sports networks starting to collapse with one preparing to file bankruptcy. They say they can’t pay teams the rights fees they agreed
    to because of cord-cutting. Streaming may be the savior but because it’s no longer subsidized by broad-based basic cable fees, streaming sports plans
    are very expensive. $29.99 per month is a common price point.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-americans-watch-local-sports-is-about-to-change-as-cable-bundles-unravel-5f896013

    On a personal note I signed up for a FUBO trial to watch the Super Bowl. If
    I had continued it would have been crazy expensive for any sports package.
    Like $60-100 per month.

    I’ve said it before but I just don’t think the financial model that is driving the huge rights fees is sustainable and won’t last.

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  • From michael anderson@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 14 16:57:59 2023
    On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 5:33:49 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Tl;dr: Regionals sports networks starting to collapse with one preparing to file bankruptcy. They say they can’t pay teams the rights fees they agreed to because of cord-cutting. Streaming may be the savior but because it’s no
    longer subsidized by broad-based basic cable fees, streaming sports plans are very expensive. $29.99 per month is a common price point.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-americans-watch-local-sports-is-about-to-change-as-cable-bundles-unravel-5f896013

    On a personal note I signed up for a FUBO trial to watch the Super Bowl. If I had continued it would have been crazy expensive for any sports package. Like $60-100 per month.

    I’ve said it before but I just don’t think the financial model that is driving the huge rights fees is sustainable and won’t last.

    agreed....I wonder about this shit too.



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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 14 16:58:40 2023
    Salaries are next...

    Mike

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 14 18:00:26 2023
    Tl;dr: Regionals sports networks starting to collapse with one preparing to file bankruptcy. They say they can’t pay teams the rights fees they agreed to because of cord-cutting. Streaming may be the savior but because it’s no
    longer subsidized by broad-based basic cable fees, streaming sports plans are very expensive. $29.99 per month is a common price point.

    Also, a number of cable companies have learned how to say no. Comcast has refused to include Altitude Sports, so people in Colorado can't watch the Nuggets or Avalanche (I think the Rockies are on another network), and also MSG, so no Knicks or Rangers
    games in New York - and when they try watching the games on NBA League Pass or NHL Center Ice, the league tells them, "Sorry, but you're in that team's blackout zone - and never mind that your cable company refuses to show the game." It's not just the
    ones with pro sports, either; it took years for ACC Network to make it onto Xfinity.

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  • From michael anderson@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 14 18:53:02 2023
    On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 5:33:49 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Tl;dr: Regionals sports networks starting to collapse with one preparing to file bankruptcy. They say they can’t pay teams the rights fees they agreed to because of cord-cutting. Streaming may be the savior but because it’s no
    longer subsidized by broad-based basic cable fees, streaming sports plans are very expensive. $29.99 per month is a common price point.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-americans-watch-local-sports-is-about-to-change-as-cable-bundles-unravel-5f896013

    On a personal note I signed up for a FUBO trial to watch the Super Bowl. If I had continued it would have been crazy expensive for any sports package. Like $60-100 per month.

    thats the same price as services like hulu, youtube, sling, etc for everything though



    I’ve said it before but I just don’t think the financial model that is driving the huge rights fees is sustainable and won’t last.

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Wed Mar 15 02:34:08 2023
    On 2023-03-14, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:

    Tl;dr: Regionals sports networks starting to collapse with one preparing to file bankruptcy. They say they can’t pay teams the rights fees they agreed to because of cord-cutting. Streaming may be the savior but because it’s no longer subsidized by broad-based basic cable fees, streaming sports plans
    are very expensive. $29.99 per month is a common price point.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-americans-watch-local-sports-is-about-to-change-as-cable-bundles-unravel-5f896013

    On a personal note I signed up for a FUBO trial to watch the Super Bowl. If
    I had continued it would have been crazy expensive for any sports package. Like $60-100 per month.

    I’ve said it before but I just don’t think the financial model that is driving the huge rights fees is sustainable and won’t last.

    The NFL will keep getting the crazy-big money simply because it is the
    only thing which draws a large audience. B1G will get pretty good money
    because of the sheer number of markets it covers and the cable systems
    that will carry those channels. ACC and SEC will be a somewhat lesser
    analog. The rest of them are going to have to suck it up and take less.

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to michael anderson on Wed Mar 15 02:38:13 2023
    michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 5:33:49 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Tl;dr: Regionals sports networks starting to collapse with one preparing to >> file bankruptcy. They say they can’t pay teams the rights fees they agreed >> to because of cord-cutting. Streaming may be the savior but because it’s no
    longer subsidized by broad-based basic cable fees, streaming sports plans
    are very expensive. $29.99 per month is a common price point.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-americans-watch-local-sports-is-about-to-change-as-cable-bundles-unravel-5f896013


    On a personal note I signed up for a FUBO trial to watch the Super Bowl. If >> I had continued it would have been crazy expensive for any sports package. >> Like $60-100 per month.

    thats the same price as services like hulu, youtube, sling, etc for everything though

    Sure but that was the price for the sports only packages



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  • From michael anderson@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 14 20:23:24 2023
    On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 9:38:17 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    michael anderson <miande...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 5:33:49 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Tl;dr: Regionals sports networks starting to collapse with one preparing to
    file bankruptcy. They say they can’t pay teams the rights fees they agreed
    to because of cord-cutting. Streaming may be the savior but because it’s no
    longer subsidized by broad-based basic cable fees, streaming sports plans >> are very expensive. $29.99 per month is a common price point.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-americans-watch-local-sports-is-about-to-change-as-cable-bundles-unravel-5f896013


    On a personal note I signed up for a FUBO trial to watch the Super Bowl. If
    I had continued it would have been crazy expensive for any sports package.
    Like $60-100 per month.

    thats the same price as services like hulu, youtube, sling, etc for everything though
    Sure but that was the price for the sports only packages

    I get that for that fubo offer but I have hulu now and I have everything(tons of sports channels and certainly all the ones I want) plus all the other channels for like 69.99, so Im not sure why anyone would pay that for just the sports part.

    or when you say 'sports package' do you mean all the espns, foxsports, foxsportsnet, secnetwork, accnetwork, bigten network,
    mlb live, nfl channel, etc or all of those PLUS like 50 regional sports channels too. Because I don't get the latter. but if it's the former just order the basic hulu and you'll get all that and anything else you would want to watch

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 15 06:14:09 2023
    On a personal note I signed up for a FUBO trial to watch the Super Bowl. If
    I had continued it would have been crazy expensive for any sports package.
    Like $60-100 per month.

    thats the same price as services like hulu, youtube, sling, etc for everything though
    Sure but that was the price for the sports only packages
    I get that for that fubo offer but I have hulu now and I have everything(tons of sports channels and certainly all the ones I want) plus all the other channels for like 69.99, so Im not sure why anyone would pay that for just the sports part.

    or when you say 'sports package' do you mean all the espns, foxsports, foxsportsnet, secnetwork, accnetwork, bigten network,
    mlb live, nfl channel, etc or all of those PLUS like 50 regional sports channels too. Because I don't get the latter. but if it's the former just order the basic hulu and you'll get all that and anything else you would want to watch

    The thread is mainly about the Regional Sports Networks - for example, where I live, there's NBC Sports Bay Area, which has the Giants (baseball) and Warriors, and NBC Sports California, which has the Athletics, Kings (basketball), and Sharks. Except for
    the Kings, which are blacked out on my version of Fox Sports California as I live in the Warriors "area," I am not able to watch any of those teams on the leagues' streaming services. This isn't a problem if you're only really interested in the NFL,
    especially now with NFL Sunday Ticket moving from DirecTV to YouTube TV.

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