• Having a gun

    From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 4 16:41:00 2023
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike

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  • From unclejr@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sat Mar 4 22:03:04 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:41:02 PM UTC-6, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike

    A gun is like a penis that gun owners weren't born with.

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  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to unclejr on Sun Mar 5 01:46:19 2023
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 1:03:06 AM UTC-5, unclejr wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:41:02 PM UTC-6, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike
    A gun is like a penis that gun owners weren't born with.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZEV_KQgi10

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  • From michael anderson@21:1/5 to unclejr on Sun Mar 5 11:32:29 2023
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:03:06 AM UTC-6, unclejr wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:41:02 PM UTC-6, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike
    A gun is like a penis that gun owners weren't born with.

    lol.....'gun owners'? You say it like it is some small disparaged group.....it's pretty damn standard for at least one person in a household to
    either have at least 1 gun, or have quick access to one. And yes the percentages vary a little across the country, but regardless of whether you are talking about colorado or new mexico or georgia or alabama or florida or vermont and on and on, guns
    are pretty damn standard anywhere.

    Now if you want to poke fun at people who have like 80 guns I wouldn't agree with that premise, but at least it's more reasonable because
    most people don't own 80 guns. But just 'gun owners' in general....lmao......I think you'll be the one looking on from the outside there.

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to michael anderson on Sun Mar 5 23:33:12 2023
    michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:03:06 AM UTC-6, unclejr wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:41:02 PM UTC-6, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike
    A gun is like a penis that gun owners weren't born with.

    lol.....'gun owners'? You say it like it is some small disparaged group.....it's pretty damn standard for at least one person in a household to either have at least 1 gun, or have quick access to one. And yes the percentages vary a little across the country, but regardless of whether
    you are talking about colorado or new mexico or georgia or alabama or
    florida or vermont and on and on, guns are pretty damn standard anywhere.

    Gun owners are a decided minority whether you’re talking about personal or household ownership.

    It’s definitely a lot of people but it’s also not the norm.

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Thirty-two percent of U.S. adults say they personally
    own a gun, while a larger percentage, 44%, report living in a gun
    household. Adults living in gun households include those with a gun in
    their home or anywhere on their property.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx

    So it’s a lot of people but it’s not the norm.
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  • From ajax@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 6 01:27:36 2023
    On 05 Mar 2023, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> posted some news:tu38ro$1fdb0$1@dont-email.me:

    michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:03:06 AM UTC-6, unclejr wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:41:02 PM UTC-6, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike
    A gun is like a penis that gun owners weren't born with.

    lol.....'gun owners'? You say it like it is some small disparaged
    group.....it's pretty damn standard for at least one person in a
    household to either have at least 1 gun, or have quick access to one.
    And yes the percentages vary a little across the country, but
    regardless of whether you are talking about colorado or new mexico or
    georgia or alabama or florida or vermont and on and on, guns are
    pretty damn standard anywhere.

    Gun owners are a decided minority whether you’re talking about
    personal or household ownership.

    It’s definitely a lot of people but it’s also not the norm.

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Thirty-two percent of U.S. adults say they
    personally own a gun, while a larger percentage, 44%, report living in
    a gun household. Adults living in gun households include those with a
    gun in their home or anywhere on their property.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx

    So it’s a lot of people but it’s not the norm.

    Oh?

    "While white men have the highest rates of gun ownership in the US, one
    survey shows that in the first half of 2021 roughly 90% of retailers saw a surge in gun sales to African Americans. The same survey found that about
    80% of retailers reported an increase in firearm purchases by Hispanic and Asian Americans."

    <https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/us/gun-owners-liberal-women-minority- reaj/index.html>

    You can thank liberal Democrats and your woke George Soros DAs for the
    increase in ownership.

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Mar 6 01:51:09 2023
    On 2023-03-05, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:03:06 AM UTC-6, unclejr wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:41:02 PM UTC-6, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike
    A gun is like a penis that gun owners weren't born with.

    lol.....'gun owners'? You say it like it is some small disparaged
    group.....it's pretty damn standard for at least one person in a household to
    either have at least 1 gun, or have quick access to one. And yes the
    percentages vary a little across the country, but regardless of whether
    you are talking about colorado or new mexico or georgia or alabama or
    florida or vermont and on and on, guns are pretty damn standard anywhere.

    Gun owners are a decided minority whether you’re talking about personal or household ownership.

    It’s definitely a lot of people but it’s also not the norm.

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Thirty-two percent of U.S. adults say they personally
    own a gun, while a larger percentage, 44%, report living in a gun
    household. Adults living in gun households include those with a gun in
    their home or anywhere on their property.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx

    So it’s a lot of people but it’s not the norm.

    Very dependent on rural/urban/suburban mix. Even then, less than a majority
    of rural residents own guns, though more than half of households have one.
    On the other hand, less than 20% of urban residents own guns, and less than
    30% of people living in suburbs.

    Personally I have never owned a gun, but I am happy that my neighbors
    do.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sun Mar 5 19:00:29 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 4:41:02 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    You best make that a reality, bitch.

    Mike

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Mon Mar 6 06:01:58 2023
    On 3/5/2023 8:51 PM, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
    On 2023-03-05, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:03:06 AM UTC-6, unclejr wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:41:02 PM UTC-6, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike
    A gun is like a penis that gun owners weren't born with.

    lol.....'gun owners'? You say it like it is some small disparaged
    group.....it's pretty damn standard for at least one person in a household to
    either have at least 1 gun, or have quick access to one. And yes the
    percentages vary a little across the country, but regardless of whether >>> you are talking about colorado or new mexico or georgia or alabama or
    florida or vermont and on and on, guns are pretty damn standard anywhere. >>
    Gun owners are a decided minority whether you’re talking about personal or >> household ownership.

    It’s definitely a lot of people but it’s also not the norm.

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Thirty-two percent of U.S. adults say they personally
    own a gun, while a larger percentage, 44%, report living in a gun
    household. Adults living in gun households include those with a gun in
    their home or anywhere on their property.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx

    So it’s a lot of people but it’s not the norm.

    Very dependent on rural/urban/suburban mix. Even then, less than a majority of rural residents own guns, though more than half of households have one.
    On the other hand, less than 20% of urban residents own guns, and less than 30% of people living in suburbs.

    Personally I have never owned a gun, but I am happy that my neighbors
    do.


    I grew up rural. I grew up with guns. Same with most of my friends.
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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Mon Mar 6 12:31:01 2023
    Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org> wrote:
    On 3/5/2023 8:51 PM, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
    On 2023-03-05, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:03:06 AM UTC-6, unclejr wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:41:02 PM UTC-6, Irish Mike wrote: >>>>>> A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike
    A gun is like a penis that gun owners weren't born with.

    lol.....'gun owners'? You say it like it is some small disparaged
    group.....it's pretty damn standard for at least one person in a household to
    either have at least 1 gun, or have quick access to one. And yes the
    percentages vary a little across the country, but regardless of whether >>>> you are talking about colorado or new mexico or georgia or alabama or
    florida or vermont and on and on, guns are pretty damn standard anywhere. >>>
    Gun owners are a decided minority whether you’re talking about personal or
    household ownership.

    It’s definitely a lot of people but it’s also not the norm.

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Thirty-two percent of U.S. adults say they personally >>> own a gun, while a larger percentage, 44%, report living in a gun
    household. Adults living in gun households include those with a gun in
    their home or anywhere on their property.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx

    So it’s a lot of people but it’s not the norm.

    Very dependent on rural/urban/suburban mix. Even then, less than a majority >> of rural residents own guns, though more than half of households have one. >> On the other hand, less than 20% of urban residents own guns, and less than >> 30% of people living in suburbs.

    Personally I have never owned a gun, but I am happy that my neighbors
    do.


    I grew up rural. I grew up with guns. Same with most of my friends.

    “Everybody I know voted for Hillary”

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Mon Mar 6 09:58:48 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 3:02:11 AM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:

    I grew up rural. I grew up with guns. Same with most of my friends.

    I grew up in hunting country. My father took my brothers hunting.

    He damn well knew better than to even have me lay hands on anything like that -- and that was decades before what I believe I would do now.

    Mike

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  • From Eric Ramon@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Mon Mar 6 15:05:24 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 4:41:02 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike

    yes, in that way it's just like a parachute. However it's unlike a parachute in that if you jump out of a plane with just a gun you're in big trouble. Additionally a parachute does not fire bullets. I bet I could come up with a hundred ways they're
    different but yes, in this one way they're alike.

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  • From Corky@21:1/5 to Eric Ramon on Mon Mar 6 17:31:03 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 5:05:28 PM UTC-6, Eric Ramon wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 4:41:02 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike
    yes, in that way it's just like a parachute. However it's unlike a parachute in that if you jump out of a plane with just a gun you're in big trouble. Additionally a parachute does not fire bullets. I bet I could come up with a hundred ways they're
    different but yes, in this one way they're alike.
    I'm always near a handgun even though I probably live and travel in one of the safest places in the USA. I also sit facing the door in restaurants and get up every night around 2 am to check the perimeter. It's what Mike said... hopefully I'll never
    need it but if I do I'll be prepared.

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Corky on Mon Mar 6 21:58:46 2023
    On 3/6/2023 8:31 PM, Corky wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 5:05:28 PM UTC-6, Eric Ramon wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 4:41:02 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike
    yes, in that way it's just like a parachute. However it's unlike a parachute in that if you jump out of a plane with just a gun you're in big trouble. Additionally a parachute does not fire bullets. I bet I could come up with a hundred ways they're
    different but yes, in this one way they're alike.
    I'm always near a handgun even though I probably live and travel in one of the safest places in the USA. I also sit facing the door in restaurants and get up every night around 2 am to check the perimeter. It's what Mike said... hopefully I'll never
    need it but if I do I'll be prepared.

    +1
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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to Eric Ramon on Tue Mar 7 22:07:48 2023
    Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 4:41:02 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike

    yes, in that way it's just like a parachute. However it's unlike a
    parachute in that if you jump out of a plane with just a gun you're in
    big trouble. Additionally a parachute does not fire bullets. I bet I
    could come up with a hundred ways they're different but yes, in this one way they're alike.


    A parachute working as designed doesn’t kill people.

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 7 17:44:13 2023
    On 3/7/2023 5:07 PM, xyzzy wrote:
    Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 4:41:02 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike

    yes, in that way it's just like a parachute. However it's unlike a
    parachute in that if you jump out of a plane with just a gun you're in
    big trouble. Additionally a parachute does not fire bullets. I bet I
    could come up with a hundred ways they're different but yes, in this one way they're alike.


    A parachute working as designed doesn’t kill people.


    Unfortunately, sometimes people need to be killed,.
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  • From TE@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 7 17:36:48 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:07:53 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Eric Ramon <ramon...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 4:41:02 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike

    yes, in that way it's just like a parachute. However it's unlike a parachute in that if you jump out of a plane with just a gun you're in
    big trouble. Additionally a parachute does not fire bullets. I bet I
    could come up with a hundred ways they're different but yes, in this one way they're alike.

    A parachute working as designed doesn’t kill people.

    With the exception of the occasional jam, every gun I've fired has
    worked as designed. Haven't killed anyone yet.

    -TE

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Tue Mar 7 20:41:26 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:44:18 PM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:

    Unfortunately, sometimes people need to be killed,.

    So what are you waiting for? And that's not said (just) personally.

    Mike

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Wed Mar 8 05:37:56 2023
    On 3/7/2023 11:41 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:44:18 PM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:

    Unfortunately, sometimes people need to be killed,.

    So what are you waiting for? And that's not said (just) personally.

    Mike

    I haven't met one yet.
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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 8 05:38:33 2023
    On 3/7/2023 8:36 PM, TE wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:07:53 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Eric Ramon <ramon...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 4:41:02 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don’t have
    one, you’ll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike

    yes, in that way it's just like a parachute. However it's unlike a
    parachute in that if you jump out of a plane with just a gun you're in
    big trouble. Additionally a parachute does not fire bullets. I bet I
    could come up with a hundred ways they're different but yes, in this one way they're alike.

    A parachute working as designed doesn’t kill people.

    With the exception of the occasional jam, every gun I've fired has
    worked as designed. Haven't killed anyone yet.

    -TE

    +1
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  • From joe@mich.com@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Wed Mar 8 09:44:17 2023
    On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 22:07:48 -0000 (UTC), xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:

    Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 4:41:02?PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and dont have
    one, youll probably never need one again.

    Irish Mike

    yes, in that way it's just like a parachute. However it's unlike a
    parachute in that if you jump out of a plane with just a gun you're in
    big trouble. Additionally a parachute does not fire bullets. I bet I
    could come up with a hundred ways they're different but yes, in this one way they're alike.


    A parachute working as designed doesnt kill people.

    Both the parachute and the gun working as designed protect the bearer from major harm, which was the original point of similarity.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to j...@mich.com on Wed Mar 8 16:15:07 2023
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-8, j...@mich.com wrote:

    Both the parachute and the gun working as designed protect the bearer from major harm, which was the original point of similarity.

    The latter assumes the person the gun is being pointed at has anything left to lose.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Wed Mar 8 16:14:25 2023
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 2:38:02 AM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 3/7/2023 11:41 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:44:18 PM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:

    Unfortunately, sometimes people need to be killed,.

    So what are you waiting for? And that's not said (just) personally.

    I haven't met one yet.

    Not even speaking personally, yes you have.

    You're a former CO, right? If your premise is as you stated above, you've met COUNTLESS people who would qualify.

    Mike

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Wed Mar 8 21:00:21 2023
    On 3/8/2023 7:14 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 2:38:02 AM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 3/7/2023 11:41 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:44:18 PM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:

    Unfortunately, sometimes people need to be killed,.

    So what are you waiting for? And that's not said (just) personally.

    I haven't met one yet.

    Not even speaking personally, yes you have.

    You're a former CO, right? If your premise is as you stated above, you've met COUNTLESS people who would qualify.

    Mike

    No one that has triggered that kind of situation.
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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Wed Mar 8 18:19:15 2023
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 6:00:26 PM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:

    No one that has triggered that kind of situation.

    Part of your problem is that you don't realize it doesn't have to be a direct threat against you.

    Mike

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Thu Mar 9 03:22:39 2023
    On 3/8/2023 9:19 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 6:00:26 PM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:

    No one that has triggered that kind of situation.

    Part of your problem is that you don't realize it doesn't have to be a direct threat against you.

    Mike

    How else would I differentiate?
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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Thu Mar 9 10:50:29 2023
    On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:22:46 AM UTC-8, Ken Olson wrote:

    How else would I differentiate?

    1) There are many who believe the Second Amendment is the final check against the government's tyranny -- at least that's how many of us were taught in school.

    2) If the courts actually have determined that the people are a militia, then when is someone going to finally determine that the only way to get crime down in the cities is to actually take up the offers of various law enforcement and SSS? Especially
    as it may relate to the "blue hives" you guys despise so much?

    3) Inflation, the money supply, and entitlements...

    4) And then there's this:

    "God bless our New Founding Fathers, for letting us Purge and cleanse our souls."

    God bless America, a nation reborn."

    How many people feel they need to make that a reality to save their mortal souls?

    Mike

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