• All SEC schools with clean football programs, take one step forward

    From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 08:41:25 2023
    Not so fast, Tennessee...
    Four "individuals who previously worked for the Tennessee football program" have admitted, among other things, giving cash payments to recruits and their families.

    No details or penalties have been released yet as some other individuals are still being investigated, and the school is challenging some of the proposed penalties.
    Reminder: if the NCAA does get this done before Thanksgiving and a postseason ban is involved, Tennessee no longer has the luxury of delaying the penalty while it appeals...at least until somebody points out that, if Tennessee wins its appeal, then it
    was punished for no reason. Well, that, and Georgia and Alabama reminds the NCAA that the SEC could pull its football programs out and "go private" any time it wan...no, I can't finish that with a straight face.

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 10:03:01 2023
    Reminder: if the NCAA does get this done before Thanksgiving and a postseason ban is involved, Tennessee no longer has the luxury of delaying the penalty while it appeals...at least until somebody points out that, if Tennessee wins its appeal, then
    it was punished for no reason. Well, that, and Georgia and Alabama reminds the NCAA that the SEC could pull its football programs out and "go private" any time it wan...no, I can't finish that with a straight face.
    The SEC holds all the cards. Once they do attempt to pull out, that's it for the NCAA model of college football.

    I wouldn't say they "hold all the cards," but they are certainly the lead domino in the chain - once one topples, enough of the rest will soon follow that the "breakaway league" becomes something very close to 100% legitimate. The question is, where is
    the gap where the dominoes stop falling? Do you include UCLA? Is the answer different if USC's participation depends on it?

    However, you do have one thing backwards; the "NCAA model" is what would remain after the power schools leave. Otherwise, explain why Mark Emmert would be begging and pleading David Silver and now Adam Silver to start taking in players straight out of
    high school again, even though who knows how much money is generated for the colleges (and the NCAA as a result, as its primary cash source - the men's basketball TV money - is worth more) by one-and-dones. The "NCAA Model" is what keeps the schools from
    letting the NCAA anywhere near the football tournament, and especially anywhere near the money it generates.
    Getting the power schools out will not end Army-Navy, or Grambling-Southern, or some Division III rivalry between schools where the combined student bodies of every school in the conference couldn't fill Bryant-Denny. Army-Navy will still be on CBS.
    Grambling-Southern will still be on NBC.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Tue Feb 28 09:45:37 2023
    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-8, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
    Not so fast, Tennessee...
    Four "individuals who previously worked for the Tennessee football program" have admitted, among other things, giving cash payments to recruits and their families.

    No details or penalties have been released yet as some other individuals are still being investigated, and the school is challenging some of the proposed penalties.
    Reminder: if the NCAA does get this done before Thanksgiving and a postseason ban is involved, Tennessee no longer has the luxury of delaying the penalty while it appeals...at least until somebody points out that, if Tennessee wins its appeal, then it
    was punished for no reason. Well, that, and Georgia and Alabama reminds the NCAA that the SEC could pull its football programs out and "go private" any time it wan...no, I can't finish that with a straight face.

    The SEC holds all the cards. Once they do attempt to pull out, that's it for the NCAA model of college football.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Tue Feb 28 11:55:29 2023
    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:03:04 AM UTC-8, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:

    Getting the power schools out will not end Army-Navy, or Grambling-Southern, or some Division III rivalry between schools where the combined student bodies of every school in the conference couldn't fill Bryant-Denny. Army-Navy will still be on CBS.
    Grambling-Southern will still be on NBC.

    I actively disagree, except I wonder if new military laws might end the service academy teams first!

    Mike

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  • From michael anderson@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Tue Feb 28 13:45:09 2023
    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 12:03:04 PM UTC-6, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
    Reminder: if the NCAA does get this done before Thanksgiving and a postseason ban is involved, Tennessee no longer has the luxury of delaying the penalty while it appeals...at least until somebody points out that, if Tennessee wins its appeal, then
    it was punished for no reason. Well, that, and Georgia and Alabama reminds the NCAA that the SEC could pull its football programs out and "go private" any time it wan...no, I can't finish that with a straight face.
    The SEC holds all the cards. Once they do attempt to pull out, that's it for the NCAA model of college football.
    I wouldn't say they "hold all the cards," but they are certainly the lead domino in the chain - once one topples, enough of the rest will soon follow that the "breakaway league" becomes something very close to 100% legitimate. The question is, where is
    the gap where the dominoes stop falling? Do you include UCLA? Is the answer different if USC's participation depends on it?

    However, you do have one thing backwards; the "NCAA model" is what would remain after the power schools leave. Otherwise, explain why Mark Emmert would be begging and pleading David Silver and now Adam Silver to start taking in players straight out of
    high school again, even though who knows how much money is generated for the colleges (and the NCAA as a result, as its primary cash source - the men's basketball TV money - is worth more) by one-and-dones. The "NCAA Model" is what keeps the schools from
    letting the NCAA anywhere near the football tournament, and especially anywhere near the money it generates.
    Getting the power schools out will not end Army-Navy, or Grambling-Southern, or some Division III rivalry between schools where the combined student bodies of every school in the conference couldn't fill Bryant-Denny. Army-Navy will still be on CBS.
    Grambling-Southern will still be on NBC.


    sure....but those entities(and those sort of teams/games) don't represent what everyone talks about and watches for the most part.

    And tennessee isn't getting any post-season ban that prevents them from playoff contention lmao......at least not before any season starts. Tennessee is never going to go for that, and Tennessee is a hell of a lot more important at this point than the
    ncaa as it pertains to football. If there ever were to be some sort of punishment like that then it would be done when Tennessee is already like 3-4 or something and clearly not headed for the playoffs anyways. Then they may be like "ok sure, give us a
    ban" lol......but no way for example are they or their boosters going to accept being banned from the possibility of going to the playoffs before the 2023 season starts for example. If the ncaa tried to pull shit like that
    Randy Boyd would call Sankey and Morehead and stuart bell and other presidents and that shit would end quickly lmao....

    the ncaa may be dumb, but they aren't that dumb. They still have sorta comfy administration jobs with nice salaries and security and they aren't going to piss that away by upsetting the people with the real power.

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