"Sources" claim that the NCAA football rules committee, wanting to shorten games (or, more likely, Divisions II and III - shorten the games; Division I - make room for Yet Still Even More TV Timeouts), is considering four rule changes for 2023:
1. The clock does not stop after a first down except in the final two minutes of each half.
2. After an incomplete pass, the clock starts on the referee's whistle instead of the snap.
3. The first and third quarters do not get an extra play if the last play of the quarter was a penalty.
4. A team cannot call consecutive timeouts (presumably in an attempt to ice the opposing kicker).
2. After an incomplete pass, the clock starts on the referee's whistle instead of the snap.
So that also would apply to spiking to stop the clock?
4. A team cannot call consecutive timeouts (presumably in an attempt to ice the opposing kicker).
I thought that was already the case at all levels.
"Sources" claim that the NCAA football rules committee, wanting to shorten games (or, more likely, Divisions II and III - shorten the games; Division I - make room for Yet Still Even More TV Timeouts), is considering four rule changes for 2023:
1. The clock does not stop after a first down except in the final two minutes of each half.
2. After an incomplete pass, the clock starts on the referee's whistle instead of the snap.
3. The first and third quarters do not get an extra play if the last play of the quarter was a penalty.
4. A team cannot call consecutive timeouts (presumably in an attempt to ice the opposing kicker).
On 2023-02-20, The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.de...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Sources" claim that the NCAA football rules committee, wanting to shorten games (or, more likely, Divisions II and III - shorten the games; Division I - make room for Yet Still Even More TV Timeouts), is considering four rule changes for 2023:Strongly disagree with #2 -- changes the game completely.
1. The clock does not stop after a first down except in the final two minutes of each half.
2. After an incomplete pass, the clock starts on the referee's whistle instead of the snap.
3. The first and third quarters do not get an extra play if the last play of the quarter was a penalty.
4. A team cannot call consecutive timeouts (presumably in an attempt to ice the opposing kicker).
--
Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own,
instead of someone else's. -- Billy Wilder
Personally, I think baseball needs to do everything it can to shorten games. CFB, not so much.
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 7:01:02 AM UTC-8, Tim VanWagoner wrote:fly.
Personally, I think baseball needs to do everything it can to shorten games. CFB, not so much.
3 minutes of ads every half inning means at a minimum 48 minutes of nothing. The average length in 2022 was 3 hrs, 3 minutes. Make it 1 minute instead of 3, save at least 32 minutes making a game 2 1/2 hours. Then there'd be less money so that won't
There's no clock in beisbol. The rules to speed up the game will
probably come back to bite Manfred and the owners in the ass.
As you suggest, reduce the time between innings. Speed replay. Have more doubleheaders with each game being seven innings.
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 5:49:15 AM UTC-6, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
On 2023-02-20, The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.de...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Sources" claim that the NCAA football rules committee, wanting to shorten games (or, more likely, Divisions II and III - shorten the games; Division I - make room for Yet Still Even More TV Timeouts), is considering four rule changes for 2023:Strongly disagree with #2 -- changes the game completely.
1. The clock does not stop after a first down except in the final two minutes of each half.
2. After an incomplete pass, the clock starts on the referee's whistle instead of the snap.
3. The first and third quarters do not get an extra play if the last play of the quarter was a penalty.
4. A team cannot call consecutive timeouts (presumably in an attempt to ice the opposing kicker).
--
Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own,
instead of someone else's. -- Billy Wilder
It changes it some, but would still take time to get the ball set so
it’s not the same as a running clock.
Personally, I think baseball needs to do everything it can to
shorten games. CFB, not so much.
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 5:49:15 AM UTC-6, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
On 2023-02-20, The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.de...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Sources" claim that the NCAA football rules committee, wanting to shorten games (or, more likely, Divisions II and III - shorten the games; Division I - make room for Yet Still Even More TV Timeouts), is considering four rule changes for 2023:Strongly disagree with #2 -- changes the game completely.
1. The clock does not stop after a first down except in the final two minutes of each half.
2. After an incomplete pass, the clock starts on the referee's whistle instead of the snap.
3. The first and third quarters do not get an extra play if the last play of the quarter was a penalty.
4. A team cannot call consecutive timeouts (presumably in an attempt to ice the opposing kicker).
--It changes it some, but would still take time to get the ball set so it’s not the same as a running clock.
Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own,
instead of someone else's. -- Billy Wilder
Personally, I think baseball needs to do everything it can to shorten games. CFB, not so much.
Teams may not call consecutive timeouts (i.e. to ice a field goal kicker).And what happens if you try? It's just ignored or is there a penalty involved?
The committee has released its rules proposals, which still need to be approved by the Playing Rules Oversight Panel on April 20.
The committee decided not to change the rule concerning when the clock stops on incomplete passes.
Here are the rules changes:
Except in the final two minutes of each half, the clock will not stop to move the chains after a first down.
Teams may not call consecutive timeouts (i.e. to ice a field goal kicker).
Pretty sure the request is just ignored.Teams may not call consecutive timeouts (i.e. to ice a field goal kicker).And what happens if you try? It's just ignored or is there a penalty involved?
I thought it was a 15-yard UC.Pretty sure the request is just ignored.Teams may not call consecutive timeouts (i.e. to ice a field goal kicker).And what happens if you try? It's just ignored or is there a penalty involved?
In the NFL, it is - and that also applies if calling a "first" timeout to ice a kicker when you don't have any remaining. However, what is supposed to happen is, the timeout request is supposed to be ignored, and the penalty enforced after the play.I thought it was a 15-yard UC.Pretty sure the request is just ignored.Teams may not call consecutive timeouts (i.e. to ice a field goal kicker).And what happens if you try? It's just ignored or is there a penalty involved?
Here are the rules changes:during halftime.
Except in the final two minutes of each half, the clock will not stop to move the chains after a first down.
Teams may not call consecutive timeouts (i.e. to ice a field goal kicker).
If there is an accepted penalty at the end of the first or third quarters, there will not be an extra down added to that quarter.
At halftime, the teams cannot take the field until it is cleared. Sounds like a line from "American Pie" ("Cause the players tried to take the field / The marching band refused to yield"). Also, there will be "designated areas" for each team to warm up
No airborne drones are allowed over the field or team sideline areas while teams are on the field.
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 5:49:15 AM UTC-6, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
On 2023-02-20, The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.de...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Sources" claim that the NCAA football rules committee, wanting to shorten games (or, more likely, Divisions II and III - shorten the games; Division I - make room for Yet Still Even More TV Timeouts), is considering four rule changes for 2023:Strongly disagree with #2 -- changes the game completely.
1. The clock does not stop after a first down except in the final two minutes of each half.
2. After an incomplete pass, the clock starts on the referee's whistle instead of the snap.
3. The first and third quarters do not get an extra play if the last play of the quarter was a penalty.
4. A team cannot call consecutive timeouts (presumably in an attempt to ice the opposing kicker).
--It changes it some, but would still take time to get the ball set so it’s not the same as a running clock.
Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own,
instead of someone else's. -- Billy Wilder
Personally, I think baseball needs to do everything it can to shorten games. CFB, not so much.
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 9:01:02 AM UTC-6, Tim VanWagoner wrote:
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 5:49:15 AM UTC-6, Con Reeder,
unhyphenated American wrote:
On 2023-02-20, The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.de...@gmail.com> wrote:It changes it some, but would still take time to get the ball set so
"Sources" claim that the NCAA football rules committee, wanting toStrongly disagree with #2 -- changes the game completely.
shorten games (or, more likely, Divisions II and III - shorten the
games; Division I - make room for Yet Still Even More TV Timeouts), is >>>> considering four rule changes for 2023:
1. The clock does not stop after a first down except in the final two
minutes of each half.
2. After an incomplete pass, the clock starts on the referee's whistle >>>> instead of the snap.
3. The first and third quarters do not get an extra play if the last
play of the quarter was a penalty.
4. A team cannot call consecutive timeouts (presumably in an attempt
to ice the opposing kicker).
--
Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own,
instead of someone else's. -- Billy Wilder
it’s not the same as a running clock.
Personally, I think baseball needs to do everything it can to shorten
games. CFB, not so much.
Most of the newly extended time is the TV time. Fall is one of my busy
times so I rarely get to watch live football (even when I can I record
and start a half hour late). I can come in at night, fast forward
through the commercials and halftime and watch an entire game in less
than 1.5 hours. I can cut it down to basically 1 hour if I FF between
plays. Still get to see all the action.
Going to games is often grueling with TV timeouts lasting what seems like 4-5 minutes.
jimbr...@yahoo.com <jimbr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 9:01:02 AM UTC-6, Tim VanWagoner wrote:
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 5:49:15 AM UTC-6, Con Reeder,
unhyphenated American wrote:
On 2023-02-20, The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.de...@gmail.com> wrote:It changes it some, but would still take time to get the ball set so
"Sources" claim that the NCAA football rules committee, wanting toStrongly disagree with #2 -- changes the game completely.
shorten games (or, more likely, Divisions II and III - shorten the
games; Division I - make room for Yet Still Even More TV Timeouts), is >>>> considering four rule changes for 2023:
1. The clock does not stop after a first down except in the final two >>>> minutes of each half.
2. After an incomplete pass, the clock starts on the referee's whistle >>>> instead of the snap.
3. The first and third quarters do not get an extra play if the last >>>> play of the quarter was a penalty.
4. A team cannot call consecutive timeouts (presumably in an attempt >>>> to ice the opposing kicker).
--
Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own,
instead of someone else's. -- Billy Wilder
it’s not the same as a running clock.
Personally, I think baseball needs to do everything it can to shorten
games. CFB, not so much.
Most of the newly extended time is the TV time. Fall is one of my busy times so I rarely get to watch live football (even when I can I record
and start a half hour late). I can come in at night, fast forward
through the commercials and halftime and watch an entire game in less
than 1.5 hours. I can cut it down to basically 1 hour if I FF between plays. Still get to see all the action.
Going to games is often grueling with TV timeouts lasting what seems like 4-5 minutes.
That’s how I used to watch too. If I let a game buffer for an hour and then
start that I would usually catch up close to the end.
The problem with that approach was friends who were watching live texting
me in-game reactions.
I would not be surprised if that happens in college too. Because, worse, you just gave the kicker TWO shots at it, PLUS FIFTEEN YARDS on the second...In the NFL, it is - and that also applies if calling a "first" timeout to ice a kicker when you don't have any remaining. However, what is supposed to happen is, the timeout request is supposed to be ignored, and the penalty enforced after the play.I thought it was a 15-yard UC.Pretty sure the request is just ignored.Teams may not call consecutive timeouts (i.e. to ice a field goal kicker).And what happens if you try? It's just ignored or is there a penalty involved?
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