It's absolutely disgusting what government has done, does and keeps
doing to OUR country. Will it ever stop ? Doubtful, sigh.
https://twitter.com/AaronSiriSG/status/1617722564721381376
#GETOFFMYLAWN
It's absolutely disgusting what government has done, does and keeps
doing to OUR country. Will it ever stop ? Doubtful, sigh.
https://twitter.com/AaronSiriSG/status/1617722564721381376
On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 9:35:58 AM UTC-5, leonard hofstatder wrote:
It's absolutely disgusting what government has done, does and keeps
doing to OUR country. Will it ever stop ? Doubtful, sigh.
https://twitter.com/AaronSiriSG/status/1617722564721381376
Made more people survive into adulthood because of vaccines? Yes, how terrible.
'Experts say that people who have already had COVID are likely to get reinfected by XBB.1.5, and those who have managed not to get COVID yet will likely catch this variant regardless of vaccination status.'ill. Doctors could probably have figured out a course of treatment that would've prevented millions of deaths if big pharma and big government would've allowed it.
I took the first three and got Covid anyway. And before you chime in with the 'but it kept you from going to the hospital' crap, I know lots of unvaccinated people who didn't go to the hospital either. There's no proof it keeps you from getting deathly
On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 4:08:22 PM UTC-6, cork...@gmail.com wrote:deathly ill. Doctors could probably have figured out a course of treatment that would've prevented millions of deaths if big pharma and big government would've allowed it.
'Experts say that people who have already had COVID are likely to get reinfected by XBB.1.5, and those who have managed not to get COVID yet will likely catch this variant regardless of vaccination status.'
I took the first three and got Covid anyway. And before you chime in with the 'but it kept you from going to the hospital' crap, I know lots of unvaccinated people who didn't go to the hospital either. There's no proof it keeps you from getting
We have plenty of evidence for the vaccine working. And we were throwing the kitchen sink at this trying to save lives. >Stop talking nonsense.
On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 4:15:20 PM UTC-6, tim.vanwa...@gmail.com wrote:deathly ill. Doctors could probably have figured out a course of treatment that would've prevented millions of deaths if big pharma and big government would've allowed it.
On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 4:08:22 PM UTC-6, cork...@gmail.com wrote:
'Experts say that people who have already had COVID are likely to get reinfected by XBB.1.5, and those who have managed not to get COVID yet will likely catch this variant regardless of vaccination status.'
I took the first three and got Covid anyway. And before you chime in with the 'but it kept you from going to the hospital' crap, I know lots of unvaccinated people who didn't go to the hospital either. There's no proof it keeps you from getting
We have plenty of evidence for the vaccine working. And we were throwing the kitchen sink at this trying to save lives. >Stop talking nonsense.Prove the covid vaccine prevents death or hospitalization. I rank that lie right up there with masks prevent the spread and the vaccine prevents the spread..
'40+ years of mass influenza vaccination, in the U.S., Italy, & the U.K, 1970-2011: NO reduction in elderly influenza mortality, or elderly influenza hospitalizations'
Nobody can even tell you with any certainty how long the *vaccine* (chortle) protects you.
demonstrating this are unlikely to change your mind. You’ve done your “research”.Nobody can even tell you with any certainty how long the *vaccine* (chortle) protects you.After 30 years in the field, I have long ago learned that no degree of evidence will suffice in convincing someone of the effectiveness of vaccines once they have been convinced they are not. I suspect any of the dozens of manuscripts with the data
'Experts say that people who have already had COVID are likely to get reinfected by XBB.1.5, and those who have managed not to get COVID yet will likely catch this variant regardless of vaccination status.'ill. Doctors could probably have figured out a course of treatment that would've prevented millions of deaths if big pharma and big government would've allowed it.
I took the first three and got Covid anyway. And before you chime in with the 'but it kept you from going to the hospital' crap, I know lots of unvaccinated people who didn't go to the hospital either. There's no proof it keeps you from getting deathly
After 30 years in the field, I have long ago learned that no degree of evidence will
suffice in convincing someone of the effectiveness of vaccines once they have been
convinced they are not. I suspect any of the dozens of manuscripts with the data
demonstrating this are unlikely to change your mind. You’ve done your “research”.
Believing that THIS vaccine doesn't work, in part or at all, hardly equates to
stating that ALL vaccines do not work. Observing the news it *appears* to me that THIS vaccine didn't do much good. At the very least, the vaccine didn't get
close to doing what we were told it would do.
Prove the covid vaccine prevents death or hospitalization. I rank that lie right up there with masks prevent the spread and the vaccine prevents the spread..
Nobody can even tell you with any certainty how long the *vaccine* (chortle) protects you.
On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 6:46:47 PM UTC-5, tim.vanwa...@gmail.com wrote:
After 30 years in the field, I have long ago learned that no degree of evidence willI'm very much a layman on the science. The science bores me to death, though I
suffice in convincing someone of the effectiveness of vaccines once they have been
convinced they are not. I suspect any of the dozens of manuscripts with the data
demonstrating this are unlikely to change your mind. You’ve done your “research”.
know I should care.
Believing that THIS vaccine doesn't work, in part or at all, hardly equates to
stating that ALL vaccines do not work. Observing the news it *appears* to me that THIS vaccine didn't do much good. At the very least, the vaccine didn't get
close to doing what we were told it would do.
-TE
On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 6:46:47 PM UTC-5, tim.vanwa...@gmail.com wrote:
After 30 years in the field, I have long ago learned that no degree of evidence will
suffice in convincing someone of the effectiveness of vaccines once they have been
convinced they are not. I suspect any of the dozens of manuscripts with the data
demonstrating this are unlikely to change your mind. You’ve done your “research”.
I'm very much a layman on the science. The science bores me to death, though I
know I should care.
Believing that THIS vaccine doesn't work, in part or at all, hardly equates to
stating that ALL vaccines do not work. Observing the news it *appears* to me that THIS vaccine didn't do much good. At the very least, the vaccine didn't get
close to doing what we were told it would do.
-TE
On 1/27/2023 6:12 PM, Corky wrote:
Nobody can even tell you with any certainty how long the *vaccine*After 30 years in the field, I have long ago learned that no degree of
(chortle) protects you.
evidence will suffice in convincing someone of the effectiveness of
vaccines once they have been convinced they are not. I suspect any of
the dozens of manuscripts with the data demonstrating this are unlikely
to change your mind. You’ve done your “research”.
I've had as many or more vaccines than anyone in this group having
served in the military overseas. I believed in vaccines and still do.
I believed in this vaccine but no more. Take it anyway you want but
mandating this stuff when it's unproven is the quickest way to create
resistance. Nobody is willing to allow an open discussion about what
they're concerned about because they're afraid people won't go lock
step. Why is that? It doesn't stop the virus or even prevent
spreading, nor do masks. If people like me believe it's unproven and
likely will cause harm then why all the effort to convince us otherwise.
Just more business for the coroner. I'm not hurting anyone but my
self. That's OK for drug abusers but not for people who don't want to be vaccinated?
The answer lies somewhere among all the billions and billions and
billions big pharma profited off of it.
demonstrating this are unlikely to change your mind. You’ve done your “research”.Nobody can even tell you with any certainty how long the *vaccine* (chortle) protects you.After 30 years in the field, I have long ago learned that no degree of evidence will suffice in convincing someone of the effectiveness of vaccines once they have been convinced they are not. I suspect any of the dozens of manuscripts with the data
I've had as many or more vaccines than anyone in this group having served in the military overseas. I believed in vaccines and still do. I believed in this vaccine but no more. Take it anyway you want but mandating this stuff when it's unproven isthe quickest way to create resistance. Nobody is willing to allow an open discussion about what they're concerned about because they're afraid people won't go lock step. Why is that? It doesn't stop the virus or even prevent spreading, nor do masks.
TE <rando...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 6:46:47 PM UTC-5, tim.vanwa...@gmail.com wrote:
After 30 years in the field, I have long ago learned that no degree of evidence will
suffice in convincing someone of the effectiveness of vaccines once they have been
convinced they are not. I suspect any of the dozens of manuscripts with the data
demonstrating this are unlikely to change your mind. You’ve done your “research”.
I'm very much a layman on the science. The science bores me to death, though I
know I should care.
Believing that THIS vaccine doesn't work, in part or at all, hardly equates to
stating that ALL vaccines do not work. Observing the news it *appears* to me
that THIS vaccine didn't do much good. At the very least, the vaccine didn't get
close to doing what we were told it would do.
-TE
As the graph JGibson’s post shows, the vaccine has been very effective, that’s obvious and clear from the data.
The problem is that the virus has evolved. When the vaccines came out they were extremely effective against infection. That claim was true. But then the Alpha and Delta variants came along which eluded the effectiveness against infection.
And when they realized the new strains were eluding the vaccine's effectiveness, they halted the mandates that were unnecessarily putting young, healthy people at risk, right?
leonard hofstatder <n.nut@comcast.net> wrote:
On 1/27/2023 6:12 PM, Corky wrote:
Nobody can even tell you with any certainty how long the *vaccine*After 30 years in the field, I have long ago learned that no degree of >>>> evidence will suffice in convincing someone of the effectiveness of
(chortle) protects you.
vaccines once they have been convinced they are not. I suspect any of
the dozens of manuscripts with the data demonstrating this are unlikely >>>> to change your mind. You’ve done your “research”.
I've had as many or more vaccines than anyone in this group having
served in the military overseas. I believed in vaccines and still do.
I believed in this vaccine but no more. Take it anyway you want but
mandating this stuff when it's unproven is the quickest way to create
resistance. Nobody is willing to allow an open discussion about what
they're concerned about because they're afraid people won't go lock
step. Why is that? It doesn't stop the virus or even prevent
spreading, nor do masks. If people like me believe it's unproven and
likely will cause harm then why all the effort to convince us otherwise. >>> Just more business for the coroner. I'm not hurting anyone but my
self. That's OK for drug abusers but not for people who don't want to be vaccinated?
The answer lies somewhere among all the billions and billions and
billions big pharma profited off of it.
I get off the liberal train when people start complaining about this.
They earned those profits developing and manufacturing a lifesaving vaccine in record time. We want companies to be motivated to do things like this.
On 1/28/2023 12:41 PM, xyzzy wrote:
I get off the liberal train when people start complaining about this.
They earned those profits developing and manufacturing a lifesaving vaccine in record time. We want companies to be motivated to do things like this.
Oh, is that why they continue to gouge people for insulin ? Guess free
market and all that blah blah blah.
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