• not a fan of the transfer portal

    From Eric Ramon@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 5 13:48:21 2022
    Now that college football is somewhere between semi-pro and completely pro, I'm just not digging the lack of continuity. I prefer it when the guy who started last year is the guy who at least gets plenty of playing time this year. I don't like it when a
    school buys up new talent and the ex-starter then goes into the portal.

    I understand that this is how it is now. I just don't like it.

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to Eric Ramon on Mon Dec 5 23:24:16 2022
    Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
    Now that college football is somewhere between semi-pro and completely
    pro, I'm just not digging the lack of continuity. I prefer it when the
    guy who started last year is the guy who at least gets plenty of playing
    time this year. I don't like it when a school buys up new talent and the ex-starter then goes into the portal.

    I understand that this is how it is now. I just don't like it.


    IAWTP. I’ve pretty much lost interest in college football

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Eric Ramon on Mon Dec 5 16:27:16 2022
    On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8, Eric Ramon wrote:
    Now that college football is somewhere between semi-pro and completely pro, I'm just not digging the lack of continuity. I prefer it when the guy who started last year is the guy who at least gets plenty of playing time this year. I don't like it when
    a school buys up new talent and the ex-starter then goes into the portal.

    I understand that this is how it is now. I just don't like it.

    My non-beef with it in that respect is that it basically formally and above-table professionalizes a sport long since professional.

    Mike

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 5 18:02:29 2022
    Now that college football is somewhere between semi-pro and completely pro, I'm just not digging the lack of continuity. I prefer it when the guy who started last year is the guy who at least gets plenty of playing time this year. I don't like it
    when a school buys up new talent and the ex-starter then goes into the portal.

    I understand that this is how it is now. I just don't like it.
    My non-beef with it in that respect is that it basically formally and above-table professionalizes a sport long since professional.

    I'm surprised you support the transfer portal, rather than that "draft kids out of high school and whatever NFL team 'owns' the college that drafts you is who you're playing for when you're called up" stuff you usually mention.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Mon Dec 5 18:18:39 2022
    On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 6:02:32 PM UTC-8, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:

    I'm surprised you support the transfer portal, rather than that "draft kids out of high school and whatever NFL team 'owns' the college that drafts you is who you're playing for when you're called up" stuff you usually mention.

    Interim step.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Tue Dec 6 09:37:19 2022
    On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 6:18:42 PM UTC-8, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 6:02:32 PM UTC-8, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:

    I'm surprised you support the transfer portal, rather than that "draft kids out of high school and whatever NFL team 'owns' the college that drafts you is who you're playing for when you're called up" stuff you usually mention.
    Interim step.

    For example, I think you've got a Power Five school now who basically has hit the nuclear bomb on the program -- and if this doesn't work, I don't see much of a future at all for that school in football. Talking "going concern" here.

    Mike

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 14:32:45 2022
    One thing I don't understand.

    JT Daniels has already played for USC, Georgia, and West Virginia, and now he's in the transfer portal again.

    You're only allowed one transfer without a one-year sit-out (and I don't think whatever the definition of the "graduate transfer rule" is this week applies to him), although for some reason, the NCAA gave him a waiver to play immediately for Georgia -
    but how does he get away with it this time?

    Okay, there's a second thing - he wants a retroactive medical redshirt so he'll have two years of eligibility left, but he has already played five seasons, and even with the one-year COVID extension, doesn't his eligibility run out six years after he
    started college?

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  • From unclejr@21:1/5 to Eric Ramon on Tue Dec 6 14:20:03 2022
    On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 3:48:24 PM UTC-6, Eric Ramon wrote:
    Now that college football is somewhere between semi-pro and completely pro, I'm just not digging the lack of continuity. I prefer it when the guy who started last year is the guy who at least gets plenty of playing time this year. I don't like it when
    a school buys up new talent and the ex-starter then goes into the portal.

    I understand that this is how it is now. I just don't like it.

    I don't mind it. I may have given an 8th Heisman Trophy to USC.

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  • From Tim VanWagoner@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Dec 6 16:38:52 2022
    On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 5:24:20 PM UTC-6, xyzzy wrote:
    Eric Ramon <ramon...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Now that college football is somewhere between semi-pro and completely pro, I'm just not digging the lack of continuity. I prefer it when the
    guy who started last year is the guy who at least gets plenty of playing time this year. I don't like it when a school buys up new talent and the ex-starter then goes into the portal.

    I understand that this is how it is now. I just don't like it.

    IAWTP. I’ve pretty much lost interest in college football

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    This is the first year in my life that I barely watched any games. Likewise, I quit watching college basketball as one and dones increased. It’s too bad they couldn’t have come to a more reasonable compromise. But NIL plus immediate transfers is
    basically free agency and I’m just not interested.

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Wed Dec 7 00:15:34 2022
    The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.del.grande@gmail.com> wrote:
    One thing I don't understand.

    JT Daniels has already played for USC, Georgia, and West Virginia, and
    now he's in the transfer portal again.

    You're only allowed one transfer without a one-year sit-out (and I don't think whatever the definition of the "graduate transfer rule" is this
    week applies to him), although for some reason, the NCAA gave him a
    waiver to play immediately for Georgia - but how does he get away with it this time?

    Okay, there's a second thing - he wants a retroactive medical redshirt so he'll have two years of eligibility left, but he has already played five seasons, and even with the one-year COVID extension, doesn't his
    eligibility run out six years after he started college?


    Plus he costs some coin.

    He’s Exhibit A of why I no longer care about college football.

    https://twitter.com/pete_nakos96/status/1600164767745949698?s=46&t=cl8Zxsckln9PPtDyUA1ukA

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to tim.vanwa...@gmail.com on Tue Dec 6 18:11:03 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:38:54 PM UTC-8, tim.vanwa...@gmail.com wrote:

    This is the first year in my life that I barely watched any games. Likewise, I quit watching college basketball as one and dones increased. It’s too bad they couldn’t have come to a more reasonable compromise. But NIL plus immediate transfers is
    basically free agency and I’m just not interested.

    Olbermann had the proper term for the game years ago: College-pro football.

    This just formalizes it and is the next step to what I've told NOTBCS is going to happen.

    No point in watching most games anyway unless for background noise or alma mater.

    Mike

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  • From Some dued@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Thu Dec 8 13:15:25 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:15:38 PM UTC-6, xyzzy wrote:
    The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.de...@gmail.com> wrote:
    One thing I don't understand.

    JT Daniels has already played for USC, Georgia, and West Virginia, and
    now he's in the transfer portal again.

    You're only allowed one transfer without a one-year sit-out (and I don't think whatever the definition of the "graduate transfer rule" is this
    week applies to him), although for some reason, the NCAA gave him a
    waiver to play immediately for Georgia - but how does he get away with it this time?

    Okay, there's a second thing - he wants a retroactive medical redshirt so he'll have two years of eligibility left, but he has already played five seasons, and even with the one-year COVID extension, doesn't his eligibility run out six years after he started college?

    Plus he costs some coin.

    He’s Exhibit A of why I no longer care about college football.

    https://twitter.com/pete_nakos96/status/1600164767745949698?s=46&t=cl8Zxsckln9PPtDyUA1ukA

    Spenser Sanders is transferring out of OSU, he should transfer into OSU so he can keep the orange and black color scheme. Or to OSU to be reunited with the defensive coordinator that made his life easier last year.

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  • From Tim VanWagoner@21:1/5 to Some dued on Fri Dec 9 14:06:31 2022
    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 3:15:27 PM UTC-6, Some dued wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:15:38 PM UTC-6, xyzzy wrote:
    The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.de...@gmail.com> wrote:
    One thing I don't understand.

    JT Daniels has already played for USC, Georgia, and West Virginia, and now he's in the transfer portal again.

    You're only allowed one transfer without a one-year sit-out (and I don't think whatever the definition of the "graduate transfer rule" is this week applies to him), although for some reason, the NCAA gave him a waiver to play immediately for Georgia - but how does he get away with it this time?

    Okay, there's a second thing - he wants a retroactive medical redshirt so
    he'll have two years of eligibility left, but he has already played five seasons, and even with the one-year COVID extension, doesn't his eligibility run out six years after he started college?

    Plus he costs some coin.

    He’s Exhibit A of why I no longer care about college football.

    https://twitter.com/pete_nakos96/status/1600164767745949698?s=46&t=cl8Zxsckln9PPtDyUA1ukA
    Spenser Sanders is transferring out of OSU, he should transfer into OSU so he can keep the orange and black color scheme. Or to OSU to be reunited with the defensive coordinator that made his life easier last year.

    In what I assume is a first, Austin Stogner, who transferred from Oklahoma to South Carolina this year, is transferring back to OU next year.

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Tim VanWagoner on Fri Dec 9 18:31:04 2022
    On 12/9/2022 5:06 PM, Tim VanWagoner wrote:
    On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 3:15:27 PM UTC-6, Some dued wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:15:38 PM UTC-6, xyzzy wrote:
    The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.de...@gmail.com> wrote:
    One thing I don't understand.

    JT Daniels has already played for USC, Georgia, and West Virginia, and >>>> now he's in the transfer portal again.

    You're only allowed one transfer without a one-year sit-out (and I don't >>>> think whatever the definition of the "graduate transfer rule" is this
    week applies to him), although for some reason, the NCAA gave him a
    waiver to play immediately for Georgia - but how does he get away with it this time?

    Okay, there's a second thing - he wants a retroactive medical redshirt so >>>> he'll have two years of eligibility left, but he has already played five >>>> seasons, and even with the one-year COVID extension, doesn't his
    eligibility run out six years after he started college?

    Plus he costs some coin.

    He’s Exhibit A of why I no longer care about college football.

    https://twitter.com/pete_nakos96/status/1600164767745949698?s=46&t=cl8Zxsckln9PPtDyUA1ukA
    Spenser Sanders is transferring out of OSU, he should transfer into OSU so he can keep the orange and black color scheme. Or to OSU to be reunited with the defensive coordinator that made his life easier last year.

    In what I assume is a first, Austin Stogner, who transferred from Oklahoma to South Carolina this year, is transferring back to OU next year.

    Keith Nichol. MSU to Oklahoma, back to MSU.
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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 9 16:44:02 2022
    In what I assume is a first, Austin Stogner, who transferred from Oklahoma to South Carolina this year, is transferring back to OU next year.
    Keith Nichol. MSU to Oklahoma, back to MSU.

    Don't think Nichol actually played for MSU before Oklahoma - apparently, he committed there, but changed his mind before enrolling anywhere.

    Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if there are quite a few players who transferred, and then immediately transferred back - if you redshirted and didn't practice for more than 14 days, you could transfer back to your original school without the one-year
    sit-out (or, under today's rules, having it count as your one free transfer).

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Fri Dec 9 20:45:32 2022
    On 12/9/2022 7:44 PM, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:

    In what I assume is a first, Austin Stogner, who transferred from Oklahoma to South Carolina this year, is transferring back to OU next year.
    Keith Nichol. MSU to Oklahoma, back to MSU.

    Don't think Nichol actually played for MSU before Oklahoma - apparently, he committed there, but changed his mind before enrolling anywhere.

    Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if there are quite a few players who transferred, and then immediately transferred back - if you redshirted and didn't practice for more than 14 days, you could transfer back to your original school without the one-
    year sit-out (or, under today's rules, having it count as your one free transfer).

    Not sure. I'll ask one of the local college football historians. I
    went to the same HS as Nichol.
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  • From unclejr@21:1/5 to unclejr on Sat Dec 10 18:11:34 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:20:06 PM UTC-6, unclejr wrote:
    On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 3:48:24 PM UTC-6, Eric Ramon wrote:
    Now that college football is somewhere between semi-pro and completely pro, I'm just not digging the lack of continuity. I prefer it when the guy who started last year is the guy who at least gets plenty of playing time this year. I don't like it
    when a school buys up new talent and the ex-starter then goes into the portal.

    I understand that this is how it is now. I just don't like it.
    I don't mind it. I may have given an 8th Heisman Trophy to USC.

    Congratulations, Caleb Williams! USC's 8th Heisman Trophy Award. More than any other NCAA school.

    Fight On!

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 11 08:11:43 2022
    Congratulations, Caleb Williams! USC's 8th Heisman Trophy Award. More than any other NCAA school.

    Strange - the Heisman Trust seems to think USC only has seven. By some chance, you're not counting the 2005 Heisman that was won by Vacated University of Indianapolis (probably its second-biggest "prize," after the 2013 NCAA Division I men's basketball
    championship), are you?

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  • From unclejr@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Sun Dec 11 20:05:30 2022
    On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 10:11:45 AM UTC-6, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
    Congratulations, Caleb Williams! USC's 8th Heisman Trophy Award. More than any other NCAA school.
    Strange - the Heisman Trust seems to think USC only has seven. By some chance, you're not counting the 2005 Heisman that was won by Vacated University of Indianapolis (probably its second-biggest "prize," after the 2013 NCAA Division I men's basketball
    championship), are you?

    Reggie Bush will get his Heisman back and be fully accepted into the "club" before I bow out of this life.

    Book it.

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