• Mid-Term Election Prediction

    From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 27 08:48:13 2022
    Bill O'Reilly does radio shows and a daily podcast.
    Earlier this week he made his predictions for
    the November 8th mid-term elections. I don't
    know if he is right or not but, for America's sake,
    I hope he is.

    House - Republic's win and gain a 12 to 15 seat
    majority. Needless to say this would be wonderful news!
    Finally an end to Nancy Pelosi's evil dishonest old butt
    and a block on Biden's insane endless spending.

    Senate - Republicans win and gain a two seat majority.
    This would be great news for honest, working class
    Americans and a safe guard against the far left wing
    Democrat loons insane, destructive agenda.

    White House - O'Reilly also predicts the Democrats will pressure
    Biden to step down for "health reasons". They know
    with his disastrous record on inflation, crime and an open
    southern border combined with his clear mental decline
    he will not win re-election in 2024.

    I will wait to see the election results but I sincerely hope
    O'Reilly is right about the House and Senate. I hope
    he is wrong about Biden because I would love
    to see old senile Joe get buried in the 2024 election.

    Irish Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Thu Oct 27 10:29:49 2022
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 8:48:15 AM UTC-7, Irish Mike wrote:

    House - Republic's win and gain a 12 to 15 seat
    majority. Needless to say this would be wonderful news!
    Finally an end to Nancy Pelosi's evil dishonest old butt
    and a block on Biden's insane endless spending.

    ... and millions of Americans perish as a result, with millions more joining the looting. You would need to open the concentration camps for the homeless and mass prisons, and that's before another Presidential election.

    Senate - Republicans win and gain a two seat majority.
    This would be great news for honest, working class
    Americans and a safe guard against the far left wing
    Democrat loons insane, destructive agenda.

    Then start shooting us, because you're gonna have to at that point.

    Because that agenda has millions of people reliant on it.

    White House - O'Reilly also predicts the Democrats will pressure
    Biden to step down for "health reasons". They know
    with his disastrous record on inflation, crime and an open
    southern border combined with his clear mental decline
    he will not win re-election in 2024.

    If this prediction is correct, Biden will be out of office by February 14, 2023. You will get President Kamala Harris, barring the one solution I believe the Republicans have to attempt to seize complete power. (which I will reiterate)

    The only question is how. They won't get a 67 Senator conviction, of that I can be certain. (Although, to me, the "misdemeanor" of the complete loss of confidence of the American people, as evidenced by the election results, could well be sufficient
    grounds.)

    I would think there's at least two operational brain cells (I know this might involve getting five or six Republicans together, but there you go) to realize you don't have two years. You may not even have the month and a half or so between apparent
    result and the new Congress seating.

    Consider:

    * Biden is still Commander in Chief, unless removed. That means nothing left to lose by accepting the Russian escalation in Ukraine and moving his chips to the center of the table. (BTW, Putin's strategy not to use tactical nuclear warfare at this
    point is predicated on a Republican victory in the Congress and a Donald Trump re-ascension between Thanksgiving 2022 and Easter 2023.)

    And if you believe NATO/Biden/Zelensky/etc. will false-flag, Biden will have nothing to lose by seeing your asses nuked.

    * You are not slowing down crime without shooting us. Please stop with the fantasies and the false threats. If you are froggy, Republicans, about your guns being your freedom, JUMP. You need me and millions like me dead now.

    And here's the thing if you think I'm just bleating about it: You're now seeing some of the most MAGA counties actually encouraging people just to shoot robbers and the like to save the county and state money -- they know what I'm saying is true and the
    very beginnings of encouraging it are on the table.

    * As far as inflation goes, take my last statement in the previous bullet point and redouble it. The only way you are reducing the money supply in this country (if you are one of those who believe that is causing inflation) and/or reducing the
    entitlement burdens (a major curb on the runaway Federal (and State) spending you speak of in your response) is to kill everyone and everything reliant on it. And that's businesses AND people.

    The worst part of this is that you'd probably have to eliminate two generations' worth of Democrats (and I mean ELIMINATE, not concentrate and see what you can get out of them), gut and raze the inner cities and try to maintain the infrastructure so the "
    good, hard-working Americans" can get what they need, etc.

    * You would almost quite literally have to take down the Statue of Liberty (You don't want the "tired and poor" born here!!!) and start shooting anybody trying to cross the border. This would mean an absolute closure of the Southern border, with lethal
    force to back it up.

    I could go on, if you like.

    My prediction:

    R's win the House by at least 20.

    New Speaker of the House: Donald Trump (see below).

    R's win the Senate, and the majority is at least 53-47. Both Oz and Walker win.

    Biden is forced out of the Presidency, one way or another, within 45 days of the new Congress. I could even see the likes of Greene trying to force a session of Congress to remove him pre-new Congress.

    If it gets to Jan 3, 2023 and Biden is still in office: Congress then implements a binding resolution voiding the vote of the 12th Amendment reading of the certificates from two years' previous and adjourns sine die, ordering the Presidential Oath of
    Office to Trump. (This is why you name him Speaker -- at this point, it's not even JUST that he's the other candidate the MAGAs believe won, he ascends to the Presidency through vacancy of the office, enforced by Congress.)

    Trump then declares martial law and "You loot, we shoot".

    Biden sues into the Roberts Court and loses 5-4. Roberts is then removed from the Supreme Court, one way or the other.

    If the Republicans attempt to allow Biden to fester for two years, new Speaker is someone like Greene or Boebert. No sane person believes McCarthy is MAGA enough to be in the Speaker's chair.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Thu Oct 27 11:19:33 2022
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 10:29:51 AM UTC-7, Michael Falkner wrote:

    I would think there's at least two operational brain cells (I know this might involve getting five or six Republicans together, but there you go) to realize you don't have two years. You may not even have the month and a half or so between apparent
    result and the new Congress seating.

    [...]

    And if you believe NATO/Biden/Zelensky/etc. will false-flag, Biden will have nothing to lose by seeing your asses nuked.

    Bloomberg is reporting today, according to at least one right-wing rag, that the Pentagon is removing the limitation of using nuclear weapons against just nuclear powers.

    Mike

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Thu Oct 27 20:36:30 2022
    Irish Mike <irishranger317@gmail.com> wrote:
    Bill O'Reilly does radio shows and a daily podcast.
    Earlier this week he made his predictions for
    the November 8th mid-term elections. I don't
    know if he is right or not but, for America's sake,
    I hope he is.

    House - Republic's win and gain a 12 to 15 seat
    majority. Needless to say this would be wonderful news!
    Finally an end to Nancy Pelosi's evil dishonest old butt
    and a block on Biden's insane endless spending.

    Senate - Republicans win and gain a two seat majority.
    This would be great news for honest, working class
    Americans and a safe guard against the far left wing
    Democrat loons insane, destructive agenda.

    White House - O'Reilly also predicts the Democrats will pressure
    Biden to step down for "health reasons". They know
    with his disastrous record on inflation, crime and an open
    southern border combined with his clear mental decline
    he will not win re-election in 2024.

    I will wait to see the election results but I sincerely hope
    O'Reilly is right about the House and Senate. I hope
    he is wrong about Biden because I would love
    to see old senile Joe get buried in the 2024 election.

    Irish Mike


    I know you’re just shit posting and not really interested in conversation
    but I’m going to say anyway that Dem losses on the scale you’re predicting would be an amazingly good performance for a party in power in a first term midterm. No one would push Biden out over it. Heck Obama, Reagan, Clinton, Bush…they all won re-election pretty easily after significantly worse first term mid-term performances.

    The most likely scenario where Biden bows out is if the Dems do well in the midterms and he gets a bunch of stuff pushed through in 2023 then he can
    say “my work here is done and go out a winner.” He wouldn’t resign early but in this scenario he might not run for re-election.

    In your scenario he’d have a chip on his shoulder and something to prove so he’d run again.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Thu Oct 27 14:19:18 2022
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:36:35 PM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:

    I know you’re just shit posting and not really interested in conversation but I’m going to say anyway that Dem losses on the scale you’re predicting
    would be an amazingly good performance for a party in power in a first term midterm. No one would push Biden out over it. Heck Obama, Reagan, Clinton, Bush…they all won re-election pretty easily after significantly worse first
    term mid-term performances.

    I disagree for at least two reasons:

    1) It is clear from the rip that Biden was not "The Choice". He was the last man standing to face Trump.

    2) How many state Republican platforms now do not recognize him as President? Simple majorities in both houses of Congress would be enough to realistically unseat him.

    The most likely scenario where Biden bows out is if the Dems do well in the midterms and he gets a bunch of stuff pushed through in 2023 then he can
    say “my work here is done and go out a winner.” He wouldn’t resign early
    but in this scenario he might not run for re-election.

    In your scenario he’d have a chip on his shoulder and something to prove so
    he’d run again.

    Which, as he said, is what he hopes.

    Mike

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Thu Oct 27 18:02:42 2022
    On 10/27/2022 4:36 PM, xyzzy wrote:
    Irish Mike <irishranger317@gmail.com> wrote:
    Bill O'Reilly does radio shows and a daily podcast.
    Earlier this week he made his predictions for
    the November 8th mid-term elections. I don't
    know if he is right or not but, for America's sake,
    I hope he is.

    House - Republic's win and gain a 12 to 15 seat
    majority. Needless to say this would be wonderful news!
    Finally an end to Nancy Pelosi's evil dishonest old butt
    and a block on Biden's insane endless spending.

    Senate - Republicans win and gain a two seat majority.
    This would be great news for honest, working class
    Americans and a safe guard against the far left wing
    Democrat loons insane, destructive agenda.

    White House - O'Reilly also predicts the Democrats will pressure
    Biden to step down for "health reasons". They know
    with his disastrous record on inflation, crime and an open
    southern border combined with his clear mental decline
    he will not win re-election in 2024.

    I will wait to see the election results but I sincerely hope
    O'Reilly is right about the House and Senate. I hope
    he is wrong about Biden because I would love
    to see old senile Joe get buried in the 2024 election.

    Irish Mike


    I know you’re just shit posting and not really interested in conversation but I’m going to say anyway that Dem losses on the scale you’re predicting
    would be an amazingly good performance for a party in power in a first term midterm. No one would push Biden out over it. Heck Obama, Reagan, Clinton, Bush…they all won re-election pretty easily after significantly worse first term mid-term performances.

    The most likely scenario where Biden bows out is if the Dems do well in the midterms and he gets a bunch of stuff pushed through in 2023 then he can
    say “my work here is done and go out a winner.” He wouldn’t resign early
    but in this scenario he might not run for re-election.

    In your scenario he’d have a chip on his shoulder and something to prove so he’d run again.


    https://electionbettingodds.com/

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  • From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Thu Oct 27 15:49:12 2022
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 4:36:35 PM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    Irish Mike <irishra...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Bill O'Reilly does radio shows and a daily podcast.
    Earlier this week he made his predictions for
    the November 8th mid-term elections. I don't
    know if he is right or not but, for America's sake,
    I hope he is.

    House - Republic's win and gain a 12 to 15 seat
    majority. Needless to say this would be wonderful news!
    Finally an end to Nancy Pelosi's evil dishonest old butt
    and a block on Biden's insane endless spending.

    Senate - Republicans win and gain a two seat majority.
    This would be great news for honest, working class
    Americans and a safe guard against the far left wing
    Democrat loons insane, destructive agenda.

    White House - O'Reilly also predicts the Democrats will pressure
    Biden to step down for "health reasons". They know
    with his disastrous record on inflation, crime and an open
    southern border combined with his clear mental decline
    he will not win re-election in 2024.

    I will wait to see the election results but I sincerely hope
    O'Reilly is right about the House and Senate. I hope
    he is wrong about Biden because I would love
    to see old senile Joe get buried in the 2024 election.

    Irish Mike

    I know you’re just shit posting and not really interested in conversation but I’m going to say anyway that Dem losses on the scale you’re predicting
    would be an amazingly good performance for a party in power in a first term midterm.

    If the Republicans take the House and Senate and you want to
    call that an "amazingly good" victory for Democrats, fine.
    I certainly don't care.

    No one would push Biden out over it. Heck Obama, Reagan, Clinton,
    Bush…they all won re-election pretty easily after significantly worse first
    term mid-term performances.

    Heck, Obama, Regan, Clinton and Bush weren't coming off the self-inflicted disaster Biden has caused and they weren't in the state of mental
    decline that Biden is in. In addition, nearly 80% of Americans believe
    the country is headed in the wrong direction.

    The most likely scenario where Biden bows out is if the Dems do well in the midterms and he gets a bunch of stuff pushed through in 2023 then he can
    say “my work here is done and go out a winner.” He wouldn’t resign early
    but in this scenario he might not run for re-election.

    Well that is a scenario that is very unlikely to happen -
    especially if Democrats lose the House and Senate.

    In your scenario he’d have a chip on his shoulder and something to prove so
    he’d run again.

    You assume Biden is mentally aware enough to make his own decisions.
    The sad fact is that Joe Biden just reads, or tries to read, the words
    his handlers put on his teleprompter. Every time he goes "off-script" it is an embarrassment for Democrats. That's why they try so hard to limit
    his exposure and speeches.

    If Biden's handlers tell him to step down for "health reasons"
    odds are, old Joe will step down.

    Irish Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 27 15:40:20 2022
    I guess I can expect the suicide of at least one friend of mine by Thanksgiving.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Thu Oct 27 16:36:03 2022
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 3:02:46 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

    https://electionbettingodds.com/

    53-47 Senate

    80+% chance of winning the House.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Thu Oct 27 16:35:06 2022
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 3:49:14 PM UTC-7, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 4:36:35 PM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:

    I know you’re just shit posting and not really interested in conversation
    but I’m going to say anyway that Dem losses on the scale you’re predicting
    would be an amazingly good performance for a party in power in a first term
    midterm.

    If the Republicans take the House and Senate and you want to
    call that an "amazingly good" victory for Democrats, fine.
    I certainly don't care.

    The thing is that he doesn't realize the difference between most other situations and this one...

    No one would push Biden out over it. Heck Obama, Reagan, Clinton, Bush…they all won re-election pretty easily after significantly worse first
    term mid-term performances.

    Heck, Obama, Regan, Clinton and Bush weren't coming off the self-inflicted disaster Biden has caused and they weren't in the state of mental
    decline that Biden is in. In addition, nearly 80% of Americans believe
    the country is headed in the wrong direction.

    ... chief among it, the fact you might not HAVE two years.

    And if half the shit you shitpost about Dems is correct, why wouldn't we just leave you a smoking fucking crater?

    The most likely scenario where Biden bows out is if the Dems do well in the
    midterms and he gets a bunch of stuff pushed through in 2023 then he can say “my work here is done and go out a winner.” He wouldn’t resign early
    but in this scenario he might not run for re-election.
    Well that is a scenario that is very unlikely to happen -
    especially if Democrats lose the House and Senate.

    One of three things will happen if the Dems lose the Congress:

    1) Biden is shot and killed, Kamala becomes President -- unless it's an inside job and both of them go, especially if Trump is named Speaker.

    2) Biden actually resigns when the depth of the loss is known (which will be all but demanded), Kamala becomes President, the VP lays vacant for two years. (This only means the President pro tem of the Senate would have full presidency over the Senate
    for the two years.).

    3) The Congress actually grows a set, nullifies the 2020 Presidential election, ascends Trump, and has martial law declared.

    2) would be the most likely, 3) would probably be the most beneficial to idiots like you.

    In your scenario he’d have a chip on his shoulder and something to prove so
    he’d run again.

    You assume Biden is mentally aware enough to make his own decisions.
    The sad fact is that Joe Biden just reads, or tries to read, the words
    his handlers put on his teleprompter. Every time he goes "off-script" it is an
    embarrassment for Democrats. That's why they try so hard to limit
    his exposure and speeches.

    The problem is: If the Trump Cabinet could not remove him, why would the Biden Cabinet remove Biden?

    The 25th is a farce at this point.

    If Biden's handlers tell him to step down for "health reasons"
    odds are, old Joe will step down.

    I think Joe is eliminated from the equation.

    Mike

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  • From TE@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Thu Oct 27 18:15:08 2022
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 4:36:35 PM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:

    I know you’re just shit posting and not really interested in conversation but I’m going to say anyway that Dem losses on the scale you’re predicting
    would be an amazingly good performance for a party in power in a first term midterm. No one would push Biden out over it. Heck Obama, Reagan, Clinton, Bush…they all won re-election pretty easily after significantly worse first
    term mid-term performances.

    The most likely scenario where Biden bows out is if the Dems do well in the midterms and he gets a bunch of stuff pushed through in 2023 then he can
    say “my work here is done and go out a winner.” He wouldn’t resign early
    but in this scenario he might not run for re-election.

    In your scenario he’d have a chip on his shoulder and something to prove so
    he’d run again.

    I can't imagine any scenario under which Biden will run again. I hear from many people on
    the left and right who are convinced he'll run again. Even if you ignore his dementia, which
    you shouldn't, he's an utter failure.

    His only up-side is that his vice-president is so incredibly inept many would vote for him
    to avoid her. But the Democrats have worked themselves in a corner. If they don't support
    Harris, and nobody in the Democratic party does, for president they are both RACIST and
    SEXIST. Bam.

    I don't see how Biden or Harris could be near any Democratic ticket. Unless something
    unheard of and historical occurs, no way are either of them in the WH. Then again, I
    thought castrating little boys and allowing grown men to hang-out in girl's locker rooms
    is something we'd all be against, but apparently it's a very important plank in the DNC.

    -TE

    “The one ring to rule us all and the one ring to find us. The one ring to bring us all and in the darkness bind us. Without it, the movement collapses. If it is lost, Mordor falls and its sway over the world evaporates in the sunlight. Without it, the
    Left loses power that it cannot afford to gamble away. Rather it is to be hoarded, strengthened, and wielded to terrible effect. It is the one ring that controls all others, and it seems almost impossible to defeat, which is why the Left continues to
    clutch it so tightly and use it for purposes great and small.”

    -Lincoln Brown, Racism is the ‘Precious’ of the left

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 27 18:21:13 2022
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 6:15:10 PM UTC-7, TE wrote:

    I can't imagine any scenario under which Biden will run again. I hear from many people on
    the left and right who are convinced he'll run again. Even if you ignore his dementia, which
    you shouldn't, he's an utter failure.

    It's getting so bad that some people are actually thinking Hillary at this point. Seriously.

    His only up-side is that his vice-president is so incredibly inept many would vote for him
    to avoid her. But the Democrats have worked themselves in a corner. If they don't support
    Harris, and nobody in the Democratic party does, for president they are both RACIST and
    SEXIST. Bam.

    I don't understand, at this point, short of the mathematical impossibility with the 50-50 Senate to replace her, why Harris hasn't been President for the last 18 months.

    Just to piss you motherfuckers off, if for nothing else.

    I don't see how Biden or Harris could be near any Democratic ticket. Unless something
    unheard of and historical occurs, no way are either of them in the WH. Then again, I
    thought castrating little boys and allowing grown men to hang-out in girl's locker rooms
    is something we'd all be against, but apparently it's a very important plank in the DNC.

    Biden already is, and I believe Harris will be shortly.

    And as far as that last shot, maybe you need to worry about people like me more than you worry about any transgender I've known.

    Mike (who was finally banned off the campus after being falsely reported for doing JUST THAT!!!)

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  • From TE@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Thu Oct 27 18:28:39 2022
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 9:21:15 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 6:15:10 PM UTC-7, TE wrote:

    I can't imagine any scenario under which Biden will run again. I hear from many people on
    the left and right who are convinced he'll run again. Even if you ignore his dementia, which
    you shouldn't, he's an utter failure.

    It's getting so bad that some people are actually thinking Hillary at this point. Seriously.

    Unpossible. She's a election-denier and a LaRouchian spinner of conspiracy theories. It's my
    understanding that the DNC does like such types.

    <snip>

    -TE

    That is especially true when it comes to the climate crisis which is why we will work together and continue to work together to address these issues, to tackle these challenges, and to work together as we continue to work, operating from the new norms,
    rules, and agreements that we will convene to work together on to galvanize global action. With that, I thank you all. This is a matter of urgent priority for all of us and I know we will work on this together.
    -Kamala Harris

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 27 21:33:35 2022
    On 10/27/2022 9:28 PM, TE wrote:
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 9:21:15 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 6:15:10 PM UTC-7, TE wrote:

    I can't imagine any scenario under which Biden will run again. I hear from many people on
    the left and right who are convinced he'll run again. Even if you ignore his dementia, which
    you shouldn't, he's an utter failure.

    It's getting so bad that some people are actually thinking Hillary at this point. Seriously.

    Unpossible. She's a election-denier and a LaRouchian spinner of conspiracy theories. It's my
    understanding that the DNC does like such types.

    <snip>

    -TE

    That is especially true when it comes to the climate crisis which is why we will work together and continue to work together to address these issues, to tackle these challenges, and to work together as we continue to work, operating from the new norms,
    rules, and agreements that we will convene to work together on to galvanize global action. With that, I thank you all. This is a matter of urgent priority for all of us and I know we will work on this together.
    -Kamala Harris

    Not to mention her association with Ruzzians.
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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Fri Oct 28 03:36:17 2022
    On 2022-10-27, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Irish Mike <irishranger317@gmail.com> wrote:
    Bill O'Reilly does radio shows and a daily podcast.
    Earlier this week he made his predictions for
    the November 8th mid-term elections. I don't
    know if he is right or not but, for America's sake,
    I hope he is.

    House - Republic's win and gain a 12 to 15 seat
    majority. Needless to say this would be wonderful news!
    Finally an end to Nancy Pelosi's evil dishonest old butt
    and a block on Biden's insane endless spending.

    Senate - Republicans win and gain a two seat majority.
    This would be great news for honest, working class
    Americans and a safe guard against the far left wing
    Democrat loons insane, destructive agenda.

    White House - O'Reilly also predicts the Democrats will pressure
    Biden to step down for "health reasons". They know
    with his disastrous record on inflation, crime and an open
    southern border combined with his clear mental decline
    he will not win re-election in 2024.

    I will wait to see the election results but I sincerely hope
    O'Reilly is right about the House and Senate. I hope
    he is wrong about Biden because I would love
    to see old senile Joe get buried in the 2024 election.

    Irish Mike


    I know you’re just shit posting and not really interested in conversation but I’m going to say anyway that Dem losses on the scale you’re predicting
    would be an amazingly good performance for a party in power in a first term midterm. No one would push Biden out over it. Heck Obama, Reagan, Clinton, Bush…they all won re-election pretty easily after significantly worse first term mid-term performances.

    The most likely scenario where Biden bows out is if the Dems do well in the midterms and he gets a bunch of stuff pushed through in 2023 then he can
    say “my work here is done and go out a winner.” He wouldn’t resign early
    but in this scenario he might not run for re-election.

    In your scenario he’d have a chip on his shoulder and something to prove so he’d run again.


    I see no way Biden runs again. He is speaking a lot now as the election
    nears, and he is showing he has no clue what he has done. He claimed that
    gas was $5.00 a gallon when he took office. He repeated the old lie about
    his football "career" at Delaware. He made other complete and utter lies.

    He'll be ushered out. I predict Buttegeig, who would be a good candidate
    for the Dems.

    --
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    crossing the street. It's more important to not show fear.
    -- P. J. O'Rourke

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  • From TE@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Fri Oct 28 05:02:50 2022
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 11:36:21 PM UTC-4, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
    On 2022-10-27, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Irish Mike <irishra...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Bill O'Reilly does radio shows and a daily podcast.
    Earlier this week he made his predictions for
    the November 8th mid-term elections. I don't
    know if he is right or not but, for America's sake,
    I hope he is.

    House - Republic's win and gain a 12 to 15 seat
    majority. Needless to say this would be wonderful news!
    Finally an end to Nancy Pelosi's evil dishonest old butt
    and a block on Biden's insane endless spending.

    Senate - Republicans win and gain a two seat majority.
    This would be great news for honest, working class
    Americans and a safe guard against the far left wing
    Democrat loons insane, destructive agenda.

    White House - O'Reilly also predicts the Democrats will pressure
    Biden to step down for "health reasons". They know
    with his disastrous record on inflation, crime and an open
    southern border combined with his clear mental decline
    he will not win re-election in 2024.

    I will wait to see the election results but I sincerely hope
    O'Reilly is right about the House and Senate. I hope
    he is wrong about Biden because I would love
    to see old senile Joe get buried in the 2024 election.

    Irish Mike


    I know you’re just shit posting and not really interested in conversation
    but I’m going to say anyway that Dem losses on the scale you’re predicting
    would be an amazingly good performance for a party in power in a first term
    midterm. No one would push Biden out over it. Heck Obama, Reagan, Clinton, Bush…they all won re-election pretty easily after significantly worse first
    term mid-term performances.

    The most likely scenario where Biden bows out is if the Dems do well in the
    midterms and he gets a bunch of stuff pushed through in 2023 then he can say “my work here is done and go out a winner.” He wouldn’t resign early
    but in this scenario he might not run for re-election.

    In your scenario he’d have a chip on his shoulder and something to prove so
    he’d run again.

    I see no way Biden runs again. He is speaking a lot now as the election nears, and he is showing he has no clue what he has done. He claimed that gas was $5.00 a gallon when he took office. He repeated the old lie about his football "career" at Delaware. He made other complete and utter lies.

    He'll be ushered out. I predict Buttegeig, who would be a good candidate
    for the Dems.

    I can see Biden moving, or being moved, aside but what about Harris? If
    she wants in that would get messy. We don't elect the 'most qualified' anymore, we elect the whomever has 'got next.' Like the parliament system without the benefit of a no-confidence vote.

    -TE

    Those currently in power insist on masking, but don’t wear masks. They claim the seas are rising
    and build mansions on the shore. They abhor the expenditure of fossil fuels and fly exclusively in
    private jets. And all the while half of the country will not name the disease. Why?

    Because the cost of challenging this oppressive orthodoxy has, for them, become too high. Upon a
    possible awakening, they—or more likely their children—might say that the country was occupied.
    And they would be right.
    -David Mamet

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 28 09:50:33 2022
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 5:02:52 AM UTC-7, TE wrote:

    I can see Biden moving, or being moved, aside but what about Harris? If
    she wants in that would get messy. We don't elect the 'most qualified' anymore, we elect the whomever has 'got next.' Like the parliament system without the benefit of a no-confidence vote.

    What would be messy about it? Biden resigns or is 25th (although "resigns" probably would be forced here), and Harris is the next person in line, unless Congress decides to remove them both by stating they no longer recognize the result of the 2020
    Presidential election -- which, if it gets through the Supreme Court at that point, would mean we have a meaningful parliamentary system, because any President can realistically be removed if the midterms go sideways.

    Because the cost of challenging this oppressive orthodoxy has, for them, become too high. Upon a
    possible awakening, they—or more likely their children—might say that the country was occupied.
    And they would be right.
    -David Mamet

    Because, David, you cannot afford (if you are a person most people see as "productive") to even have a run-in with the police.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Fri Oct 28 09:48:08 2022
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 8:36:21 PM UTC-7, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:

    I see no way Biden runs again.

    I see no way Biden finishes his term. Of course, I didn't think he'd make it six months in the first place.

    The next President of the United States of America will either be Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, and it will take place either in the lame duck after the Dems get rolled, or early in the new Congress. The former would ensure Harris, the latter would
    lean Trump.

    He is speaking a lot now as the election
    nears, and he is showing he has no clue what he has done. He claimed that gas was $5.00 a gallon when he took office. He repeated the old lie about his football "career" at Delaware. He made other complete and utter lies.

    He'll be ushered out. I predict Buttegeig, who would be a good candidate
    for the Dems.

    The only reason he's not gone is that Harris could not appoint and get a replacement through a 50-50 Senate with no tiebreaker and two possible turncoats.

    Mike

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  • From Eric Ramon@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:21:43 2022
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 8:48:15 AM UTC-7, Irish Mike wrote:
    Bill O'Reilly does radio shows and a daily podcast.
    Earlier this week he made his predictions for
    the November 8th mid-term elections.

    He's a grifter, taking the rubes, just like the other grifters do.

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to randorwell@gmail.com on Sat Oct 29 21:19:00 2022
    On 2022-10-28, TE <randorwell@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 11:36:21 PM UTC-4, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
    On 2022-10-27, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Irish Mike <irishra...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Bill O'Reilly does radio shows and a daily podcast.
    Earlier this week he made his predictions for
    the November 8th mid-term elections. I don't
    know if he is right or not but, for America's sake,
    I hope he is.

    House - Republic's win and gain a 12 to 15 seat
    majority. Needless to say this would be wonderful news!
    Finally an end to Nancy Pelosi's evil dishonest old butt
    and a block on Biden's insane endless spending.

    Senate - Republicans win and gain a two seat majority.
    This would be great news for honest, working class
    Americans and a safe guard against the far left wing
    Democrat loons insane, destructive agenda.

    White House - O'Reilly also predicts the Democrats will pressure
    Biden to step down for "health reasons". They know
    with his disastrous record on inflation, crime and an open
    southern border combined with his clear mental decline
    he will not win re-election in 2024.

    I will wait to see the election results but I sincerely hope
    O'Reilly is right about the House and Senate. I hope
    he is wrong about Biden because I would love
    to see old senile Joe get buried in the 2024 election.

    Irish Mike


    I know you’re just shit posting and not really interested in conversation
    but I’m going to say anyway that Dem losses on the scale you’re predicting
    would be an amazingly good performance for a party in power in a first term
    midterm. No one would push Biden out over it. Heck Obama, Reagan, Clinton, >> > Bush…they all won re-election pretty easily after significantly worse first
    term mid-term performances.

    The most likely scenario where Biden bows out is if the Dems do well in the
    midterms and he gets a bunch of stuff pushed through in 2023 then he can >> > say “my work here is done and go out a winner.” He wouldn’t resign early
    but in this scenario he might not run for re-election.

    In your scenario he’d have a chip on his shoulder and something to prove so
    he’d run again.

    I see no way Biden runs again. He is speaking a lot now as the election
    nears, and he is showing he has no clue what he has done. He claimed that
    gas was $5.00 a gallon when he took office. He repeated the old lie about
    his football "career" at Delaware. He made other complete and utter lies.

    He'll be ushered out. I predict Buttegeig, who would be a good candidate
    for the Dems.

    I can see Biden moving, or being moved, aside but what about Harris? If
    she wants in that would get messy.

    I don't think Republicans care about the mess. Harris would be a disaster of a candidate, and I think she simply won't be able to run enough of a campaign to get over the finish line.

    We don't elect the 'most qualified'
    anymore, we elect the whomever has 'got next.' Like the parliament system without the benefit of a no-confidence vote.

    Well, if they nominate her it is a near-certain loss. Even Trump would beat her.

    --
    The problem with Internet quotations is that many of them
    are not genuine. -- Abraham Lincoln

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 29 15:32:16 2022
    2) How many state Republican platforms now do not recognize him as President?

    If California's does, then the party gets removed from the 2024 primary and November ballots.

    California Elections Code, Section 5102:
    "No party shall be recognized or qualified to participate in any primary election that either directly or indirectly carries on, advocates, teaches, justifies, aids, or abets the overthrow by any unlawful means of, or that directly or indirectly carries
    on, advocates, teaches, justifies, aids, or abets a program of sabotage, force and violence, sedition or treason against, the government of the United States or of this state."
    I'm pretty sure "putting 'the duly elected President isn't the President" is considered "indirectly advocating sedition," at least in California.
    Section 5154 is the same, except that it applies to the general election.
    Of course, with California's "open primary" system, all of the candidates for anything except President would just declare themselves "independent," the way Bernie Sanders suddenly decides he's a Democrat for a few months every four years, and show up on
    the ballot; the only vote that is restricted by party is a Presidential primary, and even then, only for President.
    (Actually, the 2000 Presidential primaries were open; anybody from any party could vote in any one Presidential primary. The problem was, the Republican Party rules say that a primary doesn't count if any non-Republicans vote in it, so the state
    compromised and released two sets of Republican vote counts - one including everybody who voted, and one that counted just Republicans, which the party used to award delegates. Ever since then, Presidential primaries have been limited to voters
    registered to each party.)

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  • From TE@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Sat Oct 29 18:32:26 2022
    On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 6:32:18 PM UTC-4, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
    2) How many state Republican platforms now do not recognize him as President?
    If California's does, then the party gets removed from the 2024 primary and November ballots.

    California Elections Code, Section 5102:
    "No party shall be recognized or qualified to participate in any primary election that either directly or indirectly carries on, advocates, teaches, justifies, aids, or abets the overthrow by any unlawful means of, or that directly or indirectly
    carries on, advocates, teaches, justifies, aids, or abets a program of sabotage, force and violence, sedition or treason against, the government of the United States or of this state."
    I'm pretty sure "putting 'the duly elected President isn't the President" is considered "indirectly advocating sedition," at least in California.
    Section 5154 is the same, except that it applies to the general election.
    Of course, with California's "open primary" system, all of the candidates for anything except President would just declare themselves "independent," the way Bernie Sanders suddenly decides he's a Democrat for a few months every four years, and show up
    on the ballot; the only vote that is restricted by party is a Presidential primary, and even then, only for President.
    (Actually, the 2000 Presidential primaries were open; anybody from any party could vote in any one Presidential primary. The problem was, the Republican Party rules say that a primary doesn't count if any non-Republicans vote in it, so the state
    compromised and released two sets of Republican vote counts - one including everybody who voted, and one that counted just Republicans, which the party used to award delegates. Ever since then, Presidential primaries have been limited to voters
    registered to each party.)

    -------------------------------------------------

    Ridiculous. This section would impact over 90% of candidates on the ballot. Any politician who supported BLM or anti-Fa
    would be in trouble.

    Apart from supporting the for-profit mutilation of children, the strangest turn in the Democratic Party has been the
    attempt to criminalize criticism of the voting system. This was one of left-wing America's greatest victories, now you've
    turned-it-on it's head. Luckily for our democracy, the southern states didn't think to arrest anyone fighting for voting
    rights on the grounds of sedition. Was Bull Connor just that stupid or just not devious enough?

    -TE


    From the perspective of Trump’s supporters, the entrenched bureaucracy and security state subverted their populist president from day one. The natural guardrails of the Fourth Estate were removed because the press was part of the operation. Election
    rules were changed in an unconstitutional manner that could only be challenged after the deed was done, when judges and officials would be playing chicken with a direct threat of burning cities. Political violence was legitimized and encouraged. Major
    newspapers and sitting presidents were banned from social media, while the opposition enjoyed free rein to promote stories that were discredited once it was too late to matter. Conservatives put these things together and concluded that, whatever happened
    on November 3, 2020, it was not a free and fair democratic election in any sense that would have had meaning before Donald J. Trump was a candidate.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Sat Oct 29 21:09:28 2022
    On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 2:19:03 PM UTC-7, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:

    I can see Biden moving, or being moved, aside but what about Harris? If
    she wants in that would get messy.

    I don't think Republicans care about the mess. Harris would be a disaster of a
    candidate, and I think she simply won't be able to run enough of a campaign to
    get over the finish line.

    I don't even think she's going to be a _candidate_. Unless the R's can actually re-ascend Trump in late 2022/early 2023, I think she's the next President -- long BEFORE we get to "candidate".

    We don't elect the 'most qualified'
    anymore, we elect the whomever has 'got next.' Like the parliament system without the benefit of a no-confidence vote.
    Well, if they nominate her it is a near-certain loss. Even Trump would beat her.

    There will be no more elections in short order.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Sat Oct 29 21:10:42 2022
    On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 3:32:18 PM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
    2) How many state Republican platforms now do not recognize him as President?
    If California's does, then the party gets removed from the 2024 primary and November ballots.

    California Elections Code, Section 5102:
    "No party shall be recognized or qualified to participate in any primary election that either directly or indirectly carries on, advocates, teaches, justifies, aids, or abets the overthrow by any unlawful means of, or that directly or indirectly
    carries on, advocates, teaches, justifies, aids, or abets a program of sabotage, force and violence, sedition or treason against, the government of the United States or of this state."
    I'm pretty sure "putting 'the duly elected President isn't the President" is considered "indirectly advocating sedition," at least in California.

    This could also invite a very real question vis-a-vis whether an attempt to declare it nationally might create a state Constitutional crisis in states like California.

    Section 5154 is the same, except that it applies to the general election.
    Of course, with California's "open primary" system, all of the candidates for anything except President would just declare themselves "independent," the way Bernie Sanders suddenly decides he's a Democrat for a few months every four years, and show up
    on the ballot; the only vote that is restricted by party is a Presidential primary, and even then, only for President.
    (Actually, the 2000 Presidential primaries were open; anybody from any party could vote in any one Presidential primary. The problem was, the Republican Party rules say that a primary doesn't count if any non-Republicans vote in it, so the state
    compromised and released two sets of Republican vote counts - one including everybody who voted, and one that counted just Republicans, which the party used to award delegates. Ever since then, Presidential primaries have been limited to voters
    registered to each party.)

    With limited designation of those of us who refuse to state.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 29 21:12:22 2022
    On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 6:32:28 PM UTC-7, TE wrote:

    Ridiculous. This section would impact over 90% of candidates on the ballot. Any politician who supported BLM or anti-Fa
    would be in trouble.

    That's the flip side of the argument. You could, after November 8th, demand the entire California state government illegal under their own state Constitution and you MIGHT actually win.

    Apart from supporting the for-profit mutilation of children, the strangest turn in the Democratic Party has been the
    attempt to criminalize criticism of the voting system. This was one of left-wing America's greatest victories, now you've
    turned-it-on it's head. Luckily for our democracy, the southern states didn't think to arrest anyone fighting for voting
    rights on the grounds of sedition. Was Bull Connor just that stupid or just not devious enough?

    Mutilation of children, because we won't let you execute all the transgenders, gays, lesbians, and bisexuals?

    Try again, Space Cadet. And if half what you believed was correct, then, on a militia/2A level, what the fuck are you waiting for?

    Mike

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