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    From leonard hofstatder@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 2 15:06:38 2022
    Tie game 20-20

    4 mins to go in 4th qtr

    Baltimore 4th and goal fails touchdown attempt instead of kicking FG.

    Final score:
    Buffalo 23
    Baltimore 20

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to leonard hofstatder on Sun Oct 2 13:57:15 2022
    On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 1:06:42 PM UTC-7, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    Tie game 20-20

    4 mins to go in 4th qtr

    Baltimore 4th and goal fails touchdown attempt instead of kicking FG.

    Final score:
    Buffalo 23
    Baltimore 20

    Rigged and thrown. Intentional Roughing the Passer penalty to get Buffalo in FG range and allow them to run out the clock.

    The NFL is hopelessly rigged, and the players are in on it.

    (Same as that taunting penalty for the Chiefs last week.)

    Mike

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to leonard hofstatder on Sun Oct 2 16:51:04 2022
    On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 4:06:42 PM UTC-4, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    Tie game 20-20

    4 mins to go in 4th qtr

    Baltimore 4th and goal fails touchdown attempt instead of kicking FG.

    Final score:
    Buffalo 23
    Baltimore 20

    And if they kicked the FG to go up 23-20, Buffalo gets it in much better field position after the kickoff and has a higher probability of scoring the TD.

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  • From leonard hofstatder@21:1/5 to JGibson on Sun Oct 2 19:21:05 2022
    On 10/2/2022 6:51 PM, JGibson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 4:06:42 PM UTC-4, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    Tie game 20-20

    4 mins to go in 4th qtr

    Baltimore 4th and goal fails touchdown attempt instead of kicking FG.

    Final score:
    Buffalo 23
    Baltimore 20

    And if they kicked the FG to go up 23-20, Buffalo gets it in much better field position after the kickoff and has a higher probability of scoring the TD.


    maybe, we'll never know

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to leonard hofstatder on Sun Oct 2 17:28:36 2022
    On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 8:21:09 PM UTC-4, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    On 10/2/2022 6:51 PM, JGibson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 4:06:42 PM UTC-4, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    Tie game 20-20

    4 mins to go in 4th qtr

    Baltimore 4th and goal fails touchdown attempt instead of kicking FG.

    Final score:
    Buffalo 23
    Baltimore 20

    And if they kicked the FG to go up 23-20, Buffalo gets it in much better field position after the kickoff and has a higher probability of scoring the TD.
    maybe, we'll never know

    Yes, we know that they have a higher probability of scoring a TD from decent field position than they do from near their own endzone. That's based on ... analytics, which is itself based on what has actually happened in these situations in games.

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  • From leonard hofstatder@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 13 07:08:26 2022
    I couldn't agree more.



    from the twitterverse -

    (HoF and SB winning QB)
    How many times will we see “analytics” get in the way of a team taking momentum & control of a game… SMH it’s a game of feel, not of numbers IMHO!

    (HoF and SB winning coach)
    Sometimes score, time remaining, opponent, and common sense need to take precedence over hypothetical numbers.

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to leonard hofstatder on Tue Dec 13 10:20:59 2022
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 8:08:30 AM UTC-5, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    I couldn't agree more.



    from the twitterverse -

    (HoF and SB winning QB)
    How many times will we see “analytics” get in the way of a team taking momentum & control of a game… SMH it’s a game of feel, not of numbers IMHO!

    (HoF and SB winning coach)
    Sometimes score, time remaining, opponent, and common sense need to take precedence over hypothetical numbers.

    And I couldn't agree less. When has analytics gotten in the way of "momentum" and taking control of a game? And a lot of times, it just reinforces common sense.

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to JGibson on Tue Dec 13 19:18:00 2022
    JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 8:08:30 AM UTC-5, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    I couldn't agree more.



    from the twitterverse -

    (HoF and SB winning QB)
    How many times will we see “analytics” get in the way of a team taking >> momentum & control of a game… SMH it’s a game of feel, not of numbers IMHO!

    (HoF and SB winning coach)
    Sometimes score, time remaining, opponent, and common sense need to take
    precedence over hypothetical numbers.

    And I couldn't agree less. When has analytics gotten in the way of "momentum" and taking control of a game? And a lot of times, it just reinforces common sense.



    Right. Doesn’t analytics usually call for more aggressive decisions than coaches usually make?

    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to leonard hofstatder on Wed Dec 14 00:26:44 2022
    On 2022-12-13, leonard hofstatder <n.nut@comcast.net> wrote:
    I couldn't agree more.



    from the twitterverse -

    (HoF and SB winning QB)
    How many times will we see “analytics” get in the way of a team taking momentum & control of a game… SMH it’s a game of feel, not of numbers IMHO!

    The coach's attitude is what creates the feel.

    (HoF and SB winning coach)
    Sometimes score, time remaining, opponent, and common sense need to take precedence over hypothetical numbers.

    And sometimes we need to acknowledge the power of chance.

    --
    The only certain barrier to truth is the presumption that you already
    have it. -- Chuck Missler

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