I believe that all this talk about the "looming civil war" was always bullshit, and it's still mostly bullshit, but this is the kind of stuff that could set-it-off. The public knows that the crime doesn't dictate the punishment but who commits thecrime. Worse still, a large segment of the population support this.
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/08/19/more-jan-6-people-convicted-of-parading-n490848and plead guilty were a pair of sisters, Trudy Castle and Kimberly DiFrancesco. The two women freely admitted to having been at the riot and entering the Capitol Building after someone dropped a dime on them to the authorities, pointing to social media
"The government is continuing its highly “successful” campaign to identify and convict any person that can conceivably be tied in any way to the Capitol Hill riot on January 6th of last year. The latest two people to be dragged before a magistrate
...for the rioters would be shocking under any other circumstances. But the reality is that we now live in an era of selective enforcement of the law and unequal sentencing for similar or identical crimes. It’s the politicization of the justice system and
"Just as a periodic reminder, there has yet to be a single prosecution I could find of any of the people who were setting fire to federal court buildings and police cruisers during the BLM riots that unfolded during the summer of love. These sentences
-TE
I believe that all this talk about the "looming civil war" was always bullshit,
and it's still mostly bullshit, but this is the kind of stuff that could set-it-off. The public knows that the crime doesn't dictate the punishment but who commits the crime. Worse still, a large segment of the population support this.and plead guilty were a pair of sisters, Trudy Castle and Kimberly DiFrancesco. The two women freely admitted to having been at the riot and entering the Capitol Building after someone dropped a dime on them to the authorities, pointing to social media
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/08/19/more-jan-6-people-convicted-of-parading-n490848
"The government is continuing its highly “successful” campaign to identify and convict any person that can conceivably be tied in any way to the Capitol Hill riot on January 6th of last year. The latest two people to be dragged before a magistrate
...for the rioters would be shocking under any other circumstances. But the reality is that we now live in an era of selective enforcement of the law and unequal sentencing for similar or identical crimes. It’s the politicization of the justice system and
"Just as a periodic reminder, there has yet to be a single prosecution I could find of any of the people who were setting fire to federal court buildings and police cruisers during the BLM riots that unfolded during the summer of love. These sentences
-TE
"Just as a periodic reminder, there has yet to be a single prosecution I
could find of any of the people who were setting fire to federal court
buildings and police cruisers during the BLM riots that unfolded during
the summer of love.
Since your friends at hotair.com don’t seem very skilled at googling, let me help them out. I found this after one Google search, I must be qualified to be an investigative journalist if those yahoos are setting the standard.
https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal
cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floyd’s death last year shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes
and sent to prison.
The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.
[…]
President Joe Biden’s Justice Department has continued the vast majority of the racial injustice protest cases brought across the U.S. under Trump and has often pushed for lengthy prison time for people convicted of serious crimes. Since Biden took office in January, federal prosecutors have
brought some new cases stemming from last year’s protests.
[…]
Just this month [article is from August 2021] a man was sentenced to four years behind bars and ordered to pay what his attorney said is likely to exceed $1.5 million in restitution after pleading guilty to inciting a riot last spring in Champaign, Illinois.
[…]
In another case this month, an Illinois man was sentenced to nearly nine years behind bars for lighting a Minneapolis cellphone store on fire in
June 2020. A Charleston, South Carolina, man who livestreamed himself
looting a store downtown was sentenced to two years in prison.
In the Capitol riot, dozens of defendants have been charged only with misdemeanors, and a standard plea deal has allowed many to plead guilty to
a single count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
An Indiana woman who admitted illegally entering the Capitol but didn’t participate in any violence or destruction avoided jail time, and two other misdemeanor defendants got one and two months of home confinement. Two
other people who were locked up pretrial were released after pleading
guilty to misdemeanors and serving the maximum six-month jail sentence.
[…]
in Utah this month, a federal judge sentenced 25-year-old Lateesha Richards to nearly two years in prison for tossing a pair of basketball shorts onto
an overturned, burning patrol car and hurling a baseball bat toward police officers during a May 2020 protest in Salt Lake City. There’s no evidence that the bat struck anybody.
"Just as a periodic reminder, there has yet to be a single prosecution I could find of any of the people who were setting fire to federal court buildings and police cruisers during the BLM riots that unfolded during the summer of love.
xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Just as a periodic reminder, there has yet to be a single prosecution I >> could find of any of the people who were setting fire to federal court
buildings and police cruisers during the BLM riots that unfolded during >> the summer of love.
Since your friends at hotair.com don’t seem very skilled at googling, let
me help them out. I found this after one Google search, I must be qualified
to be an investigative journalist if those yahoos are setting the standard.
https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floyd’s death last year
shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison.
The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.
[…]
President Joe Biden’s Justice Department has continued the vast majority of
the racial injustice protest cases brought across the U.S. under Trump and has often pushed for lengthy prison time for people convicted of serious crimes. Since Biden took office in January, federal prosecutors have brought some new cases stemming from last year’s protests.
[…]
Just this month [article is from August 2021] a man was sentenced to four years behind bars and ordered to pay what his attorney said is likely to exceed $1.5 million in restitution after pleading guilty to inciting a riot
last spring in Champaign, Illinois.
[…]
In another case this month, an Illinois man was sentenced to nearly nine years behind bars for lighting a Minneapolis cellphone store on fire in June 2020. A Charleston, South Carolina, man who livestreamed himself looting a store downtown was sentenced to two years in prison.
In the Capitol riot, dozens of defendants have been charged only with misdemeanors, and a standard plea deal has allowed many to plead guilty to a single count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
An Indiana woman who admitted illegally entering the Capitol but didn’t participate in any violence or destruction avoided jail time, and two other
misdemeanor defendants got one and two months of home confinement. Two other people who were locked up pretrial were released after pleading guilty to misdemeanors and serving the maximum six-month jail sentence.
[…]
in Utah this month, a federal judge sentenced 25-year-old Lateesha RichardsThe last example I cited is a direct counter to hotair.com’s claim that no one has been prosecutor damaging a patrol car. Here’s another from the same
to nearly two years in prison for tossing a pair of basketball shorts onto an overturned, burning patrol car and hurling a baseball bat toward police officers during a May 2020 protest in Salt Lake City. There’s no evidence
that the bat struck anybody.
article:
On the same day in May, Kelsey Donnel Jackson traveled to downtown Charleston, South Carolina, with a cousin to join a protest over Floyd’s killing. Hours later, as other protesters began flipping tables and
taunting police officers, Jackson lighted a shirt on fire and tossed it
onto the trunk of a vandalized police car.
Jackson also vandalized businesses and public property, assaulted two
people and streamed a video of himself on Facebook Live in which he held a handgun and made threatening statements about police, according to prosecutors.
He was sentenced this summer to two years in prison after pleading guilty
to maliciously damaging a police vehicle with fire.
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie
"Just as a periodic reminder, there has yet to be a single prosecution I
could find of any of the people who were setting fire to federal court
buildings and police cruisers during the BLM riots that unfolded during the summer of love.
Since your friends at hotair.com don’t seem very skilled at googling, let me help them out. I found this after one Google search, I must be qualified to be an investigative journalist if those yahoos are setting the standard.
https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal
cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floyd’s death last year shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes
and sent to prison.
The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.
[…]
President Joe Biden’s Justice Department has continued the vast majority of the racial injustice protest cases brought across the U.S. under Trump and has often pushed for lengthy prison time for people convicted of serious crimes. Since Biden took office in January, federal prosecutors have
brought some new cases stemming from last year’s protests.
[…]
Just this month [article is from August 2021] a man was sentenced to four years behind bars and ordered to pay what his attorney said is likely to exceed $1.5 million in restitution after pleading guilty to inciting a riot last spring in Champaign, Illinois.
[…]
In another case this month, an Illinois man was sentenced to nearly nine years behind bars for lighting a Minneapolis cellphone store on fire in
June 2020. A Charleston, South Carolina, man who livestreamed himself
looting a store downtown was sentenced to two years in prison.
In the Capitol riot, dozens of defendants have been charged only with misdemeanors, and a standard plea deal has allowed many to plead guilty to
a single count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
An Indiana woman who admitted illegally entering the Capitol but didn’t participate in any violence or destruction avoided jail time, and two other misdemeanor defendants got one and two months of home confinement. Two
other people who were locked up pretrial were released after pleading
guilty to misdemeanors and serving the maximum six-month jail sentence.
[…]
in Utah this month, a federal judge sentenced 25-year-old Lateesha Richards to nearly two years in prison for tossing a pair of basketball shorts onto
an overturned, burning patrol car and hurling a baseball bat toward police officers during a May 2020 protest in Salt Lake City. There’s no evidence that the bat struck anybody.
On 2022-08-20, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
"Just as a periodic reminder, there has yet to be a single prosecution I >>> could find of any of the people who were setting fire to federal court
buildings and police cruisers during the BLM riots that unfolded during
the summer of love.
Since your friends at hotair.com don’t seem very skilled at googling, let >> me help them out. I found this after one Google search, I must be qualified >> to be an investigative journalist if those yahoos are setting the standard. >>
https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal
cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floyd’s death last year >> shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes
and sent to prison.
The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have
pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including
rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been
sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At >> least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.
[…]
President Joe Biden’s Justice Department has continued the vast majority of
the racial injustice protest cases brought across the U.S. under Trump and >> has often pushed for lengthy prison time for people convicted of serious
crimes. Since Biden took office in January, federal prosecutors have
brought some new cases stemming from last year’s protests.
Let's see -- one incident at the Capitol causing a couple million
dollars in damage has resulted in 600 cases. Six hundred
incidents causing billions of dollars of damage has resulted in --
300 cases? Actually, there were lots of people arrested but very
few received more than misdemeanor charges and almost none were
held without bail.
I know that causing members of Congress to wet the bed is a heinous
crime, but should it result in a charge rate that much greater?
On top of all that, those BLM protests have caused the deaths of
many, many people more than the 19 that actually died in the riots,
as civil order has broken down as a result. The economic damage also
is much greater than the listed amount, as hundreds or thousands
of businesses permanently closed.
[…]
Just this month [article is from August 2021] a man was sentenced to four
years behind bars and ordered to pay what his attorney said is likely to
exceed $1.5 million in restitution after pleading guilty to inciting a riot >> last spring in Champaign, Illinois.
His pet riot caused as much damage as the Capitol riot.
[…]
In another case this month, an Illinois man was sentenced to nearly nine
years behind bars for lighting a Minneapolis cellphone store on fire in
June 2020. A Charleston, South Carolina, man who livestreamed himself
looting a store downtown was sentenced to two years in prison.
In the Capitol riot, dozens of defendants have been charged only with
misdemeanors, and a standard plea deal has allowed many to plead guilty to >> a single count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
How many BLM members were charged with trespassing? With looting? We watched videos of many, many, looting incidents and rarely have we heard of people being
charged. Not surprising, since not that many were charged.
An Indiana woman who admitted illegally entering the Capitol but didn’t
participate in any violence or destruction avoided jail time, and two other >> misdemeanor defendants got one and two months of home confinement. Two
other people who were locked up pretrial were released after pleading
guilty to misdemeanors and serving the maximum six-month jail sentence.
[…]
in Utah this month, a federal judge sentenced 25-year-old Lateesha Richards >> to nearly two years in prison for tossing a pair of basketball shorts onto >> an overturned, burning patrol car and hurling a baseball bat toward police >> officers during a May 2020 protest in Salt Lake City. There’s no evidence >> that the bat struck anybody.
That's what assault is. I doesn't have to result in battery. And when you throw a combustible on a fire and shortly thereafter the fire gets larger
and the entire vehicle becomes engulfed in flames, you participated in the burning of the vehicle.
Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
On 2022-08-20, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
"Just as a periodic reminder, there has yet to be a single prosecution I >>>> could find of any of the people who were setting fire to federal court >>>> buildings and police cruisers during the BLM riots that unfolded during >>>> the summer of love.
Since your friends at hotair.com don’t seem very skilled at googling, let >>> me help them out. I found this after one Google search, I must be qualified >>> to be an investigative journalist if those yahoos are setting the standard. >>>
https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal
cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floyd’s death last year
shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes >>> and sent to prison.
The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have >>> pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including
rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been
sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At >>> least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.
[…]
President Joe Biden’s Justice Department has continued the vast majority of
the racial injustice protest cases brought across the U.S. under Trump and >>> has often pushed for lengthy prison time for people convicted of serious >>> crimes. Since Biden took office in January, federal prosecutors have
brought some new cases stemming from last year’s protests.
Let's see -- one incident at the Capitol causing a couple million
dollars in damage has resulted in 600 cases. Six hundred
incidents causing billions of dollars of damage has resulted in --
300 cases? Actually, there were lots of people arrested but very
few received more than misdemeanor charges and almost none were
held without bail.
I know that causing members of Congress to wet the bed is a heinous
crime, but should it result in a charge rate that much greater?
On top of all that, those BLM protests have caused the deaths of
many, many people more than the 19 that actually died in the riots,
as civil order has broken down as a result. The economic damage also
is much greater than the listed amount, as hundreds or thousands
of businesses permanently closed.
[…]
Just this month [article is from August 2021] a man was sentenced to four >>> years behind bars and ordered to pay what his attorney said is likely to >>> exceed $1.5 million in restitution after pleading guilty to inciting a riot >>> last spring in Champaign, Illinois.
His pet riot caused as much damage as the Capitol riot.
[…]
In another case this month, an Illinois man was sentenced to nearly nine >>> years behind bars for lighting a Minneapolis cellphone store on fire in
June 2020. A Charleston, South Carolina, man who livestreamed himself
looting a store downtown was sentenced to two years in prison.
In the Capitol riot, dozens of defendants have been charged only with
misdemeanors, and a standard plea deal has allowed many to plead guilty to >>> a single count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
How many BLM members were charged with trespassing? With looting? We watched >> videos of many, many, looting incidents and rarely have we heard of people being
charged. Not surprising, since not that many were charged.
An Indiana woman who admitted illegally entering the Capitol but didn’t >>> participate in any violence or destruction avoided jail time, and two other >>> misdemeanor defendants got one and two months of home confinement. Two
other people who were locked up pretrial were released after pleading
guilty to misdemeanors and serving the maximum six-month jail sentence.
[…]
in Utah this month, a federal judge sentenced 25-year-old Lateesha Richards >>> to nearly two years in prison for tossing a pair of basketball shorts onto >>> an overturned, burning patrol car and hurling a baseball bat toward police >>> officers during a May 2020 protest in Salt Lake City. There’s no evidence >>> that the bat struck anybody.
That's what assault is. I doesn't have to result in battery. And when you
throw a combustible on a fire and shortly thereafter the fire gets larger
and the entire vehicle becomes engulfed in flames, you participated in the >> burning of the vehicle.
You guys are missing the point quibbling over numbers. There’s a wingnut victimization fantasy that BLM rioters were given a pass which is patently false. The AP showed prosecutions and stiff sentences handed out.
rioter so you won’t be satisfied with fewer than 10s of thousands
of prosecutions, well that’s just self-serving ignorance.
Unlike the BLM demonstrators EVERYONE
who participated in the sacking of the Capitol committed a federal crime.
There were a lot more than 600 participants in that riot so a lot of people have skated on that too.
Another factor is that the Capitol riot was one event on one day in one
place and the cases are all in the jurisdiction of one court, making them easy to track and count. By contrast BLM riots were all over the place in different times with different courts having jurisdiction so it’s more diffuse to track. As the AP showed when they went to the trouble to
research it there were plenty of serious cases brought that resulted in serious prison time all over the country, while many Capitol rioters got
off easy.
You just don’t want to know that because you prefer to wallow in a wingnut victimization fantasy that simply isn’t true.
People in BLM demonstrations who simply walked in the streets did not
commit a crime.
Most of those who did commit crimes in the BLM
demonstrations committed state, not federal crimes. But EVERYONE who
entered the Capitol grounds on 1/6 DID commit a federal crime. This is a distinction it doesn’t serve you to acknowledge. Just like you don’t want to understand the difference between looting a CVS and sacking our nation’s Capitol in an attempted coup. Both are crimes but one is a crime against property and the other is a crime against our republic. Conflating the two is dishonest in the extreme.
Most of those who did commit crimes in the BLM
demonstrations committed state, not federal crimes. But EVERYONE who entered the Capitol grounds on 1/6 DID commit a federal crime. This is a distinction it doesn’t serve you to acknowledge. Just like you don’t want
to understand the difference between looting a CVS and sacking our nation’s
Capitol in an attempted coup. Both are crimes but one is a crime against property and the other is a crime against our republic. Conflating the two is dishonest in the extreme.
Walking into the Capitol as the police hold the door open for you is a "crime against our republic"? Is that the same crime the trespassing Kavanaugh or abortion protesters committed? Or the Colbert staffers?
On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 2:35:07 AM UTC-4, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
<snip>
Most of those who did commit crimes in the BLM
demonstrations committed state, not federal crimes. But EVERYONE who
entered the Capitol grounds on 1/6 DID commit a federal crime. This is a >>> distinction it doesn’t serve you to acknowledge. Just like you don’t want
to understand the difference between looting a CVS and sacking our nation’s
Capitol in an attempted coup. Both are crimes but one is a crime against >>> property and the other is a crime against our republic. Conflating the two >>> is dishonest in the extreme.
Walking into the Capitol as the police hold the door open for you is a
"crime against our republic"? Is that the same crime the trespassing
Kavanaugh or abortion protesters committed? Or the Colbert staffers?
"Attempted coup" tmml
One of the advantages of not checking RSFC every day, or every hour, as many of
us do/did is you get a better take on people who justify tactics they would have
been outraged only months before. If Jan 6. was a 'coup,' fine, but you can't ignore
the dozens of coups committed by the left in the previous years.
The intelligence services along with Democrats attempted to frame, and remove,,
the sitting president as a foreign spy. Now THAT was a coup, unquestionably.
Is Adam Schiff in prison? No. Some cancer-ridden grandma who strolled through
the capital building, between the ropes for ten minutes? Fry the bitch.
On 2022-08-21, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
On 2022-08-20, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
"Just as a periodic reminder, there has yet to be a single prosecution I >>>>> could find of any of the people who were setting fire to federal court >>>>> buildings and police cruisers during the BLM riots that unfolded during >>>>> the summer of love.
Since your friends at hotair.com don’t seem very skilled at googling, let
me help them out. I found this after one Google search, I must be qualified
to be an investigative journalist if those yahoos are setting the standard.
https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal >>>> cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floyd’s death last year
shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes >>>> and sent to prison.
The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have >>>> pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including
rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been
sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At >>>> least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.
[…]
President Joe Biden’s Justice Department has continued the vast majority of
the racial injustice protest cases brought across the U.S. under Trump and >>>> has often pushed for lengthy prison time for people convicted of serious >>>> crimes. Since Biden took office in January, federal prosecutors have
brought some new cases stemming from last year’s protests.
Let's see -- one incident at the Capitol causing a couple million
dollars in damage has resulted in 600 cases. Six hundred
incidents causing billions of dollars of damage has resulted in --
300 cases? Actually, there were lots of people arrested but very
few received more than misdemeanor charges and almost none were
held without bail.
I know that causing members of Congress to wet the bed is a heinous
crime, but should it result in a charge rate that much greater?
On top of all that, those BLM protests have caused the deaths of
many, many people more than the 19 that actually died in the riots,
as civil order has broken down as a result. The economic damage also
is much greater than the listed amount, as hundreds or thousands
of businesses permanently closed.
[…]
Just this month [article is from August 2021] a man was sentenced to four >>>> years behind bars and ordered to pay what his attorney said is likely to >>>> exceed $1.5 million in restitution after pleading guilty to inciting a riot
last spring in Champaign, Illinois.
His pet riot caused as much damage as the Capitol riot.
[…]
In another case this month, an Illinois man was sentenced to nearly nine >>>> years behind bars for lighting a Minneapolis cellphone store on fire in >>>> June 2020. A Charleston, South Carolina, man who livestreamed himself
looting a store downtown was sentenced to two years in prison.
In the Capitol riot, dozens of defendants have been charged only with
misdemeanors, and a standard plea deal has allowed many to plead guilty to >>>> a single count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
How many BLM members were charged with trespassing? With looting? We watched
videos of many, many, looting incidents and rarely have we heard of people being
charged. Not surprising, since not that many were charged.
An Indiana woman who admitted illegally entering the Capitol but didn’t >>>> participate in any violence or destruction avoided jail time, and two other
misdemeanor defendants got one and two months of home confinement. Two >>>> other people who were locked up pretrial were released after pleading
guilty to misdemeanors and serving the maximum six-month jail sentence. >>>>
[…]
in Utah this month, a federal judge sentenced 25-year-old Lateesha Richards
to nearly two years in prison for tossing a pair of basketball shorts onto >>>> an overturned, burning patrol car and hurling a baseball bat toward police >>>> officers during a May 2020 protest in Salt Lake City. There’s no evidence
that the bat struck anybody.
That's what assault is. I doesn't have to result in battery. And when you >>> throw a combustible on a fire and shortly thereafter the fire gets larger >>> and the entire vehicle becomes engulfed in flames, you participated in the >>> burning of the vehicle.
You guys are missing the point quibbling over numbers. There’s a wingnut >> victimization fantasy that BLM rioters were given a pass which is patently >> false. The AP showed prosecutions and stiff sentences handed out.
And showed thousands of cases dropped without charges.
j I know you guys think everyone who participated in a march is a
rioter so you won’t be satisfied with fewer than 10s of thousands
of prosecutions, well that’s just self-serving ignorance.
Unlike the BLM demonstrators EVERYONE
who participated in the sacking of the Capitol committed a federal crime.
What, trespassing? How many trespassing and failure to disperse charges
were leveled for BLM rioters? Hint: you can't find cases. Thousands of
cases were dropped in dozens of cities.
There were a lot more than 600 participants in that riot so a lot of people >> have skated on that too.
It isn't just federal crimes that count. Unless state and local authorities don't
charge, in which case the federal government can prosecute.
The rioters in the BLM riots were generally treated with kid gloves and many, many, many people committing far worse crimes such as looting were let go.
Another factor is that the Capitol riot was one event on one day in one
place and the cases are all in the jurisdiction of one court, making them
easy to track and count. By contrast BLM riots were all over the place in
different times with different courts having jurisdiction so it’s more
diffuse to track. As the AP showed when they went to the trouble to
research it there were plenty of serious cases brought that resulted in
serious prison time all over the country, while many Capitol rioters got
off easy.
That's because there were no cases of looting, arson, attempted murder with vehicle, etc. at the Capitol. There were many, many serious crimes committed at the BLM riots and very few at the Capitol.
You just don’t want to know that because you prefer to wallow in a wingnut >> victimization fantasy that simply isn’t true.
If 70% of people were charged for a certain type of offense in one case and 0% in another, you're claiming that's "quibbling over numbers". The fact that they charged BLM rioters for the much more serious crimes they committed is supposed to make up for that. I don't think anyone would quibble over charging Capitol rioters for offenses like that.
Fact -- they came down with jackboots on people whose great crime was trespassing and failure to disperse,
"I just walked in the street. That window must have just broken itself."
If they broke curfew or disobeyed orders to disperse they certainly
did. Thousands of people were arrested or ticketed for that and
almost zero were prosecuted.
Walking into the Capitol as the police hold the door open for you is a
"crime against our republic"?
Is that the same crime the trespassing
Kavanaugh
or abortion protesters committed?
Or the Colbert staffers?
TE <rando...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 2:35:07 AM UTC-4, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
<snip>
Most of those who did commit crimes in the BLM
demonstrations committed state, not federal crimes. But EVERYONE who
entered the Capitol grounds on 1/6 DID commit a federal crime. This is a >>> distinction it doesn’t serve you to acknowledge. Just like you don’t want
to understand the difference between looting a CVS and sacking our nation’s
Capitol in an attempted coup. Both are crimes but one is a crime against >>> property and the other is a crime against our republic. Conflating the two
is dishonest in the extreme.
Walking into the Capitol as the police hold the door open for you is a
"crime against our republic"? Is that the same crime the trespassing
Kavanaugh or abortion protesters committed? Or the Colbert staffers?
"Attempted coup" tmml
One of the advantages of not checking RSFC every day, or every hour, as many of
us do/did is you get a better take on people who justify tactics they would have
been outraged only months before. If Jan 6. was a 'coup,' fine, but you can't ignore
the dozens of coups committed by the left in the previous years.
The intelligence services along with Democrats attempted to frame, and remove,,
the sitting president as a foreign spy. Now THAT was a coup, unquestionably.
Is Adam Schiff in prison? No. Some cancer-ridden grandma who strolled through
the capital building, between the ropes for ten minutes? Fry the bitch.
That’s your fantasy of what’s happening but it isn’t what’s happening.
Plenty of Capitol rioters got wrist slaps, so much so that even some judges are questioning whether the charges are too light. You just choose not to learn about them because it would break your wingnut victim complex. Or maybe there’s an honest explanation for your ignorance here, like they did the easy light ones in 2021 and the ones happening now are the ringleaders who got more serious charges.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/25/politics/capitol-riot-cases-charges-explainer/index.html
Or the Colbert staffers?
You mean these Colbert staffers?
The individuals, who entered the building on two separate occasions, were invited by Congressional staffers to enter the building in each instance
and were never asked to leave by the staffers who invited them, though, members of the group had been told at various points by the U.S. Capitol Police that they were supposed to have an escort," the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia said in a statement.
We do not believe it is probable that the Office would be able to obtain
and sustain convictions on these charges," the office said, noting that the production crew's "escort chose to leave them unattended."
Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <cons...@duxmail.com> wrote:
On 2022-08-21, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <cons...@duxmail.com> wrote:
On 2022-08-20, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Just as a periodic reminder, there has yet to be a single prosecution I
could find of any of the people who were setting fire to federal court >>>>> buildings and police cruisers during the BLM riots that unfolded during
the summer of love.
Since your friends at hotair.com don’t seem very skilled at googling, let
me help them out. I found this after one Google search, I must be qualified
to be an investigative journalist if those yahoos are setting the standard.
https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal >>>> cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floyd’s death last year
shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes
and sent to prison.
The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have
pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including >>>> rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been >>>> sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At
least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.
[…]
President Joe Biden’s Justice Department has continued the vast majority of
the racial injustice protest cases brought across the U.S. under Trump and
has often pushed for lengthy prison time for people convicted of serious
crimes. Since Biden took office in January, federal prosecutors have >>>> brought some new cases stemming from last year’s protests.
Let's see -- one incident at the Capitol causing a couple million
dollars in damage has resulted in 600 cases. Six hundred
incidents causing billions of dollars of damage has resulted in --
300 cases? Actually, there were lots of people arrested but very
few received more than misdemeanor charges and almost none were
held without bail.
I know that causing members of Congress to wet the bed is a heinous
crime, but should it result in a charge rate that much greater?
On top of all that, those BLM protests have caused the deaths of
many, many people more than the 19 that actually died in the riots,
as civil order has broken down as a result. The economic damage also
is much greater than the listed amount, as hundreds or thousands
of businesses permanently closed.
[…]
Just this month [article is from August 2021] a man was sentenced to four
years behind bars and ordered to pay what his attorney said is likely to
exceed $1.5 million in restitution after pleading guilty to inciting a riot
last spring in Champaign, Illinois.
His pet riot caused as much damage as the Capitol riot.
[…]
In another case this month, an Illinois man was sentenced to nearly nine
years behind bars for lighting a Minneapolis cellphone store on fire in >>>> June 2020. A Charleston, South Carolina, man who livestreamed himself >>>> looting a store downtown was sentenced to two years in prison.
In the Capitol riot, dozens of defendants have been charged only with >>>> misdemeanors, and a standard plea deal has allowed many to plead guilty to
a single count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
How many BLM members were charged with trespassing? With looting? We watched
videos of many, many, looting incidents and rarely have we heard of people being
charged. Not surprising, since not that many were charged.
An Indiana woman who admitted illegally entering the Capitol but didn’t
participate in any violence or destruction avoided jail time, and two other
misdemeanor defendants got one and two months of home confinement. Two >>>> other people who were locked up pretrial were released after pleading >>>> guilty to misdemeanors and serving the maximum six-month jail sentence. >>>>
[…]
in Utah this month, a federal judge sentenced 25-year-old Lateesha Richards
to nearly two years in prison for tossing a pair of basketball shorts onto
an overturned, burning patrol car and hurling a baseball bat toward police
officers during a May 2020 protest in Salt Lake City. There’s no evidence
that the bat struck anybody.
That's what assault is. I doesn't have to result in battery. And when you
throw a combustible on a fire and shortly thereafter the fire gets larger
and the entire vehicle becomes engulfed in flames, you participated in the
burning of the vehicle.
You guys are missing the point quibbling over numbers. There’s a wingnut
victimization fantasy that BLM rioters were given a pass which is patently
false. The AP showed prosecutions and stiff sentences handed out.
And showed thousands of cases dropped without charges.
j I know you guys think everyone who participated in a march is a
rioter so you won’t be satisfied with fewer than 10s of thousands
of prosecutions, well that’s just self-serving ignorance.
Unlike the BLM demonstrators EVERYONE
who participated in the sacking of the Capitol committed a federal crime.
What, trespassing? How many trespassing and failure to disperse charges were leveled for BLM rioters? Hint: you can't find cases. Thousands of cases were dropped in dozens of cities.
There were a lot more than 600 participants in that riot so a lot of people
have skated on that too.
It isn't just federal crimes that count. Unless state and local authorities don't
charge, in which case the federal government can prosecute.
The rioters in the BLM riots were generally treated with kid gloves and many,
many, many people committing far worse crimes such as looting were let go.
Another factor is that the Capitol riot was one event on one day in one >> place and the cases are all in the jurisdiction of one court, making them >> easy to track and count. By contrast BLM riots were all over the place in >> different times with different courts having jurisdiction so it’s more >> diffuse to track. As the AP showed when they went to the trouble to
research it there were plenty of serious cases brought that resulted in >> serious prison time all over the country, while many Capitol rioters got >> off easy.
That's because there were no cases of looting, arson, attempted murder with
vehicle, etc. at the Capitol. There were many, many serious crimes committed
at the BLM riots and very few at the Capitol.
You just don’t want to know that because you prefer to wallow in a wingnut
victimization fantasy that simply isn’t true.
If 70% of people were charged for a certain type of offense in one case and
0% in another, you're claiming that's "quibbling over numbers". The fact that
they charged BLM rioters for the much more serious crimes they committed is
supposed to make up for that. I don't think anyone would quibble over charging Capitol rioters for offenses like that.
Fact -- they came down with jackboots on people whose great crime was trespassing and failure to disperse,No, they didn’t. Many capital rioters got off easy, so much so than some of
the judges questioned the lightness of the charges. They apparently did the light, easy misdemeanor pleas last year giving you time to forget about them, and now the ringleaders who caught more serious charges are current
in the news.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/25/politics/capitol-riot-cases-charges-explainer/index.html
"I just walked in the street. That window must have just broken itself."Thousands of people walked in the streets. Thousands of people did not
break windows or loot.
And lot of those who broke windows and committed vandalism were right wing plants. It’s another example of how every Republican accusation is actually
a confession because you guys like to claim false flag but are the ones who actually are doing it. For example:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/29/umbrella-man-white-supremacist-minneapolis/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-homeland-supremacists/a-trump-security-chief-acknowledges-role-of-white-supremacist-extremists-in-u-s-urban-violence-idUSKBN26031F
If they broke curfew or disobeyed orders to disperse they certainlyIt’s ironic that Enright is claiming the state is jackbooting conservatives
did. Thousands of people were arrested or ticketed for that and
almost zero were prosecuted.
in the same thread where you whine that not enough people were locked up
for curfew violations.
Walking into the Capitol as the police hold the door open for you is a "crime against our republic"?Breaking down barricades, assaulting Capitol police, attempting to hunt
down congressman and Senators, sacking the house chamber and members offices, trying to stop the transfer of power…re: the latter if the rioters
weren’t trying to stop the transfer of power what do you plausibly think they WERE trying to do as they chanted “Hang Mike Pence”?
Is that the same crime the trespassingYou mean the ones that were cuffed and charged?
Kavanaugh
or abortion protesters committed?
You mean the ones that vandalized and torched clinics? Or the one that killed Dr Tiller?
Or the Colbert staffers?
You mean these Colbert staffers?
The individuals, who entered the building on two separate occasions, were invited by Congressional staffers to enter the building in each instance
and were never asked to leave by the staffers who invited them, though, members of the group had been told at various points by the U.S. Capitol Police that they were supposed to have an escort," the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia said in a statement.
We do not believe it is probable that the Office would be able to obtain
and sustain convictions on these charges," the office said, noting that the production crew's "escort chose to leave them unattended."
Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
On 2022-08-21, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
On 2022-08-20, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
"Just as a periodic reminder, there has yet to be a single prosecution I >>>>>> could find of any of the people who were setting fire to federal court >>>>>> buildings and police cruisers during the BLM riots that unfolded during >>>>>> the summer of love.
Since your friends at hotair.com don’t seem very skilled at googling, let
me help them out. I found this after one Google search, I must be qualified
to be an investigative journalist if those yahoos are setting the standard.
https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal >>>>> cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floyd’s death last year
shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes >>>>> and sent to prison.
The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have >>>>> pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including >>>>> rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been >>>>> sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At
least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.
[…]
President Joe Biden’s Justice Department has continued the vast majority of
the racial injustice protest cases brought across the U.S. under Trump and
has often pushed for lengthy prison time for people convicted of serious >>>>> crimes. Since Biden took office in January, federal prosecutors have >>>>> brought some new cases stemming from last year’s protests.
Let's see -- one incident at the Capitol causing a couple million
dollars in damage has resulted in 600 cases. Six hundred
incidents causing billions of dollars of damage has resulted in --
300 cases? Actually, there were lots of people arrested but very
few received more than misdemeanor charges and almost none were
held without bail.
I know that causing members of Congress to wet the bed is a heinous
crime, but should it result in a charge rate that much greater?
On top of all that, those BLM protests have caused the deaths of
many, many people more than the 19 that actually died in the riots,
as civil order has broken down as a result. The economic damage also
is much greater than the listed amount, as hundreds or thousands
of businesses permanently closed.
[…]
Just this month [article is from August 2021] a man was sentenced to four >>>>> years behind bars and ordered to pay what his attorney said is likely to >>>>> exceed $1.5 million in restitution after pleading guilty to inciting a riot
last spring in Champaign, Illinois.
His pet riot caused as much damage as the Capitol riot.
[…]
In another case this month, an Illinois man was sentenced to nearly nine >>>>> years behind bars for lighting a Minneapolis cellphone store on fire in >>>>> June 2020. A Charleston, South Carolina, man who livestreamed himself >>>>> looting a store downtown was sentenced to two years in prison.
In the Capitol riot, dozens of defendants have been charged only with >>>>> misdemeanors, and a standard plea deal has allowed many to plead guilty to
a single count of demonstrating in the Capitol.
How many BLM members were charged with trespassing? With looting? We watched
videos of many, many, looting incidents and rarely have we heard of people being
charged. Not surprising, since not that many were charged.
An Indiana woman who admitted illegally entering the Capitol but didn’t >>>>> participate in any violence or destruction avoided jail time, and two other
misdemeanor defendants got one and two months of home confinement. Two >>>>> other people who were locked up pretrial were released after pleading >>>>> guilty to misdemeanors and serving the maximum six-month jail sentence. >>>>>
[…]
in Utah this month, a federal judge sentenced 25-year-old Lateesha Richards
to nearly two years in prison for tossing a pair of basketball shorts onto
an overturned, burning patrol car and hurling a baseball bat toward police
officers during a May 2020 protest in Salt Lake City. There’s no evidence
that the bat struck anybody.
That's what assault is. I doesn't have to result in battery. And when you >>>> throw a combustible on a fire and shortly thereafter the fire gets larger >>>> and the entire vehicle becomes engulfed in flames, you participated in the >>>> burning of the vehicle.
You guys are missing the point quibbling over numbers. There’s a wingnut >>> victimization fantasy that BLM rioters were given a pass which is patently >>> false. The AP showed prosecutions and stiff sentences handed out.
And showed thousands of cases dropped without charges.
j I know you guys think everyone who participated in a march is a
rioter so you won’t be satisfied with fewer than 10s of thousandsWhat, trespassing? How many trespassing and failure to disperse charges
of prosecutions, well that’s just self-serving ignorance.
Unlike the BLM demonstrators EVERYONE
who participated in the sacking of the Capitol committed a federal crime. >>
were leveled for BLM rioters? Hint: you can't find cases. Thousands of
cases were dropped in dozens of cities.
There were a lot more than 600 participants in that riot so a lot of people >>> have skated on that too.
It isn't just federal crimes that count. Unless state and local authorities don't
charge, in which case the federal government can prosecute.
The rioters in the BLM riots were generally treated with kid gloves and many,
many, many people committing far worse crimes such as looting were let go. >>
Another factor is that the Capitol riot was one event on one day in one
place and the cases are all in the jurisdiction of one court, making them >>> easy to track and count. By contrast BLM riots were all over the place in >>> different times with different courts having jurisdiction so it’s more >>> diffuse to track. As the AP showed when they went to the trouble to
research it there were plenty of serious cases brought that resulted in
serious prison time all over the country, while many Capitol rioters got >>> off easy.
That's because there were no cases of looting, arson, attempted murder with >> vehicle, etc. at the Capitol. There were many, many serious crimes committed
at the BLM riots and very few at the Capitol.
You just don’t want to know that because you prefer to wallow in a wingnut
victimization fantasy that simply isn’t true.
If 70% of people were charged for a certain type of offense in one case and >> 0% in another, you're claiming that's "quibbling over numbers". The fact that
they charged BLM rioters for the much more serious crimes they committed is >> supposed to make up for that. I don't think anyone would quibble over
charging Capitol rioters for offenses like that.
Fact -- they came down with jackboots on people whose great crime was
trespassing and failure to disperse,
No, they didn’t. Many capital rioters got off easy, so much so than some of the judges questioned the lightness of the charges.
They apparently did the
light, easy misdemeanor pleas last year giving you time to forget about
them, and now the ringleaders who caught more serious charges are current
in the news.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/25/politics/capitol-riot-cases-charges-explainer/index.html
"I just walked in the street. That window must have just broken itself."
Thousands of people walked in the streets. Thousands of people did not
break windows or loot.
And lot of those who broke windows and committed vandalism were right wing plants.
It’s another example of how every Republican accusation is actually
a confession because you guys like to claim false flag but are the ones who actually are doing it. For example:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/29/umbrella-man-white-supremacist-minneapolis/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-homeland-supremacists/a-trump-security-chief-acknowledges-role-of-white-supremacist-extremists-in-u-s-urban-violence-idUSKBN26031F
If they broke curfew or disobeyed orders to disperse they certainly
did. Thousands of people were arrested or ticketed for that and
almost zero were prosecuted.
It’s ironic that Enright is claiming the state is jackbooting conservatives in the same thread where you whine that not enough people were locked up
for curfew violations.
Walking into the Capitol as the police hold the door open for you is a
"crime against our republic"?
Breaking down barricades, assaulting Capitol police, attempting to hunt
down congressman and Senators, sacking the house chamber and members
offices, trying to stop the transfer of power…re: the latter if the rioters weren’t trying to stop the transfer of power what do you plausibly think they WERE trying to do as they chanted “Hang Mike Pence”?
Is that the same crime the trespassing
Kavanaugh
You mean the ones that were cuffed and charged?
or abortion protesters committed?
You mean the ones that vandalized and torched clinics? Or the one that
killed Dr Tiller?
Or the Colbert staffers?
You mean these Colbert staffers?
The individuals, who entered the building on two separate occasions, were invited by Congressional staffers to enter the building in each instance
and were never asked to leave by the staffers who invited them, though, members of the group had been told at various points by the U.S. Capitol Police that they were supposed to have an escort," the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia said in a statement.
We do not believe it is probable that the Office would be able to obtain
and sustain convictions on these charges," the office said, noting that the production crew's "escort chose to leave them unattended."
(Yes, I blame a good part of the increased crime in the big cities on
those riots and that action. Lack of charging emboldened criminals. If
they'd been hit hard it would have saved many lives. If police had
been backed up not nearly as many would have quit.)
On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 1:34:59 AM UTC-7, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
(Yes, I blame a good part of the increased crime in the big cities on
those riots and that action. Lack of charging emboldened criminals. If
they'd been hit hard it would have saved many lives. If police had
been backed up not nearly as many would have quit.)
Then start shooting. Organize militias like you claim you have the right to and open fire.
Because that is THE ONLY WAY you are getting the cities back -- OR preventing them from showing up at your door.
Seriously.
Mike
I see no difference between that and someone who entered as a Capitol
police officer held the door for them.
Con Reeder, unhyphenated American"
I see no difference between that and someone who entered as a Capitol
police officer held the door for them.
“Police officer held the door for them”
https://www.businessinsider.com/capitol-rioter-who-beat-police-officer-with-trump-flag-sentenced-2022-8
At about 1:38 p.m., Richardson was standing several feet away from the
police line at the West Terrace with the flagpole," the DOJ statement read. "He raised it and forcefully swung it downward to strike an officer with
the Metropolitan Police Department who was standing behind a metal
barricade. Richardson then struck the officer two more times, using enough force to break the flagpole. Then, moments later, he joined other rioters
in pushing a large metal sign into a line of law enforcement officers."
On 2022-08-27, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
Con Reeder, unhyphenated American"
I see no difference between that and someone who entered as a Capitol
police officer held the door for them.
“Police officer held the door for them”
https://www.businessinsider.com/capitol-rioter-who-beat-police-officer-with-trump-flag-sentenced-2022-8
At about 1:38 p.m., Richardson was standing several feet away from the
police line at the West Terrace with the flagpole," the DOJ statement read. >> "He raised it and forcefully swung it downward to strike an officer with
the Metropolitan Police Department who was standing behind a metal
barricade. Richardson then struck the officer two more times, using enough >> force to break the flagpole. Then, moments later, he joined other rioters
in pushing a large metal sign into a line of law enforcement officers."
You're describing one entrance, not all entrances.
Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
On 2022-08-27, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
Con Reeder, unhyphenated American"
I see no difference between that and someone who entered as a Capitol
police officer held the door for them.
“Police officer held the door for them”
https://www.businessinsider.com/capitol-rioter-who-beat-police-officer-with-trump-flag-sentenced-2022-8
At about 1:38 p.m., Richardson was standing several feet away from the
police line at the West Terrace with the flagpole," the DOJ statement read. >>> "He raised it and forcefully swung it downward to strike an officer with >>> the Metropolitan Police Department who was standing behind a metal
barricade. Richardson then struck the officer two more times, using enough >>> force to break the flagpole. Then, moments later, he joined other rioters >>> in pushing a large metal sign into a line of law enforcement officers."
You're describing one entrance, not all entrances.
Is this the falsehood you’ve chosen to hold on to, to allow yourself to not admit to yourself what happened on Jan 6? Yes I’m describing one entrance because that’s one guy’s case. Remember this thread was started by complaining that the authorities were too harsh on the Capitol rioters.
Given the description above were they too harsh on this guy?
Also here’s a more widespread description of multiple entrances:
…about 140 police officers were assaulted while trying to stop the mob from breaching the Capitol. There were hours-long battles between police and rioters near some entrances. CNN obtained footage from police body-worn cameras showing how dozens of officers engaged in hand-to-hand combat with rioters in a desperate effort to keep them out of the building.
There are plenty of instances where rioters waltzed into the Capitol
without a fight, but only after they had stormed past barricades and, in
some cases, even stepped through broken windows. In some areas, police were so outnumbered by the mob that they retreated, stood aside or tried to politely engage with rioters to de-escalate the situation rather than fighting or making arrests, but that is clearly not the same as welcoming rioters into the building.
..,,end quote…
So after being overwhelmed and assaulted at multiple entrances, with many suffering injuries, and their perimeter breaking down, some police didn’t actively continue to contest people’s entry.
That doesn’t constitute inviting them in. You know better.
There are so many things in this world that come down to intent. It would never occur to me that I would need an invitation to enter the Rotunda. I have
been there several times, and guess what? During business hours, I just walked in. It's a public building.
On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 12:19:56 PM UTC-7, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
There are so many things in this world that come down to intent. It would
never occur to me that I would need an invitation to enter the Rotunda. I have
been there several times, and guess what? During business hours, I just
walked in. It's a public building.
did you know that on that day electoral votes were being counted? You
might be surprised to learn that many Republicans were trying to stop
that and that the President of the United States was conducting a
rally where he wanted his supporters to march to the Capitol. Some
have suggested that he meant more than just "stand outside".
On 2022-08-29, Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 12:19:56 PM UTC-7, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
There are so many things in this world that come down to intent. It would >>> never occur to me that I would need an invitation to enter the Rotunda. I have
been there several times, and guess what? During business hours, I just
walked in. It's a public building.
did you know that on that day electoral votes were being counted? You
might be surprised to learn that many Republicans were trying to stop
that and that the President of the United States was conducting a
rally where he wanted his supporters to march to the Capitol. Some
have suggested that he meant more than just "stand outside".
To be honest, I had no idea anything was happening. He lost the election,
it was over as far as I was concerned. I was (and am) glad to see the rear end of him as a consolation prize for the horribleness of electing the current obviously incompetant and corrupt occupant.
I'm just telling you -- it isn't a stretch to think that you have the right to go in the building. And not everyone is completely up on the latest "news",
particularly when the purveyors thereof are so obviously putting their thumbs on the scale.
You'll get no argument from me about the obtuseness of Trump and his crowd. If I never heard of the man again it woud be too soon. What's odd is that I am certain that if he had been re-elected the world would be in a much better place right now.
On 8/29/2022 10:29 AM, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
On 2022-08-29, Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 12:19:56 PM UTC-7, Con Reeder,
unhyphenated American wrote:
There are so many things in this world that come down to intent. It
would
never occur to me that I would need an invitation to enter the
Rotunda. I have
been there several times, and guess what? During business hours, I just >>>> walked in. It's a public building.
did you know that on that day electoral votes were being counted? You
might be surprised to learn that many Republicans were trying to stop
that and that the President of the United States was conducting a
rally where he wanted his supporters to march to the Capitol. Some
have suggested that he meant more than just "stand outside".
To be honest, I had no idea anything was happening. He lost the election,
it was over as far as I was concerned. I was (and am) glad to see the
rear
end of him as a consolation prize for the horribleness of electing the
current obviously incompetant and corrupt occupant.
I'm just telling you -- it isn't a stretch to think that you have the
right
to go in the building. And not everyone is completely up on the latest
"news",
particularly when the purveyors thereof are so obviously putting their
thumbs
on the scale.
You'll get no argument from me about the obtuseness of Trump and his
crowd.
If I never heard of the man again it woud be too soon. What's odd is
that I
am certain that if he had been re-elected the world would be in a much
better
place right now.
+1
On 8/29/2022 11:38 AM, Ken Olson wrote:
On 8/29/2022 10:29 AM, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:That's funny. I did not know that delusional disorder was contagious and
On 2022-08-29, Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 12:19:56 PM UTC-7, Con Reeder,
unhyphenated American wrote:
There are so many things in this world that come down to intent. It
would
never occur to me that I would need an invitation to enter the
Rotunda. I have
been there several times, and guess what? During business hours, I
just
walked in. It's a public building.
did you know that on that day electoral votes were being counted? You
might be surprised to learn that many Republicans were trying to stop
that and that the President of the United States was conducting a
rally where he wanted his supporters to march to the Capitol. Some
have suggested that he meant more than just "stand outside".
To be honest, I had no idea anything was happening. He lost the
election,
it was over as far as I was concerned. I was (and am) glad to see the
rear
end of him as a consolation prize for the horribleness of electing the
current obviously incompetant and corrupt occupant.
I'm just telling you -- it isn't a stretch to think that you have the
right
to go in the building. And not everyone is completely up on the
latest "news",
particularly when the purveyors thereof are so obviously putting
their thumbs
on the scale.
You'll get no argument from me about the obtuseness of Trump and his
crowd.
If I never heard of the man again it woud be too soon. What's odd is
that I
am certain that if he had been re-elected the world would be in a
much better
place right now.
+1
had gone viral. Maybe Hydroxychloroquine can be used off-label.
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