• Can Trump Godwin himself?

    From xyzzy@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 8 14:57:39 2022
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals/amp

    The President’s loud complaint to John Kelly one day was typical: “You fucking generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?”

    “Which generals?” Kelly asked.

    “The German generals in World War II,” Trump responded.

    “You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled
    it off?” Kelly said.

    But, of course, Trump did not know that. “No, no, no, they were totally
    loyal to him,” the President replied. In his version of history, the
    generals of the Third Reich had been completely subservient to Hitler; this
    was the model he wanted for his military.

    —-

    Yes. Trump actually wanted our generals to be more like Hitler’s. Or at
    least what he thought Hitler’s generals were. Yes he actually said it. So, yes he’s a fascist.

    There’s much more in the article that backs this up.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Aug 8 10:38:38 2022
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 7:57:43 AM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:

    Yes. Trump actually wanted our generals to be more like Hitler’s. Or at least what he thought Hitler’s generals were. Yes he actually said it. So, yes he’s a fascist.

    And people think I'm crazy when I tell his supporters here what they're going to have to do with myself and people like me.

    Complete mental disconnect.

    Mike

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  • From TE@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Aug 8 18:09:25 2022
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:57:43 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals/amp

    The President’s loud complaint to John Kelly one day was typical: “You fucking generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?”

    “Which generals?” Kelly asked.

    “The German generals in World War II,” Trump responded.

    “You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?” Kelly said.

    But, of course, Trump did not know that. “No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” the President replied. In his version of history, the generals of the Third Reich had been completely subservient to Hitler; this was the model he wanted for his military.

    —-

    Yes. Trump actually wanted our generals to be more like Hitler’s. Or at least what he thought Hitler’s generals were. Yes he actually said it. So, yes he’s a fascist.

    There’s much more in the article that backs this up.

    Hmmm....The FBI and other security organs, a presidential candidate, the US Congress,
    the media...and as you know, the list goes on, attempted to remove a sitting US president
    by producing and knowingly disseminated false information that he was a traitor. We were
    repeatedly told by members of the Foreign Intelligence cesspool that they have SEEN THE
    PROOF! ITS 100% TRUE!!! Sorry, the fascists self-identified a couple of years ago.

    Sorry, an unsubstantiated rant by Trump which has zero impact on the nation hardly
    reaches the level of our Democratic, bureaucratic and media fascists who actually
    attempted a coup.

    -TE

    “I see some fear rising these days from libs over losing a cultural war they thought they
    could suppress: manhood. Dems will never be the party that makes a man feel good
    about his manliness. It’s anathema to their big agenda but also simply an ideology
    that won’t allow it. The feminization of society can only work after men have built and
    secured it. And it can only last until their beta males collapse into a puddle of goo.
    The cycle is always, ever: Strong men build strong societies, strong societies create
    weak men, weak men create weak societies, weak societies create strong men. We’re at that last phase. Expect a bright future.”


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  • From TE@21:1/5 to RoddyMcCorley on Mon Aug 8 18:35:19 2022
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 9:18:33 PM UTC-4, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
    On 8/8/2022 9:09 PM, TE wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:57:43 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals/amp

    The President’s loud complaint to John Kelly one day was typical: “You
    fucking generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?”

    “Which generals?” Kelly asked.

    “The German generals in World War II,” Trump responded.

    “You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled
    it off?” Kelly said.

    But, of course, Trump did not know that. “No, no, no, they were totally >> loyal to him,” the President replied. In his version of history, the
    generals of the Third Reich had been completely subservient to Hitler; this
    was the model he wanted for his military.

    —-

    Yes. Trump actually wanted our generals to be more like Hitler’s. Or at >> least what he thought Hitler’s generals were. Yes he actually said it. So,
    yes he’s a fascist.

    There’s much more in the article that backs this up.

    Hmmm....The FBI and other security organs, a presidential candidate, the US Congress,
    the media...and as you know, the list goes on, attempted to remove a sitting US president
    by producing and knowingly disseminated false information that he was a traitor. We were
    repeatedly told by members of the Foreign Intelligence cesspool that they have SEEN THE
    PROOF! ITS 100% TRUE!!! Sorry, the fascists self-identified a couple of years ago.

    Sorry, an unsubstantiated rant by Trump which has zero impact on the nation hardly
    reaches the level of our Democratic, bureaucratic and media fascists who actually
    attempted a coup.

    -TE

    “I see some fear rising these days from libs over losing a cultural war they thought they
    could suppress: manhood. Dems will never be the party that makes a man feel good
    about his manliness. It’s anathema to their big agenda but also simply an ideology
    that won’t allow it. The feminization of society can only work after men have built and
    secured it. And it can only last until their beta males collapse into a puddle of goo.
    The cycle is always, ever: Strong men build strong societies, strong societies create
    weak men, weak men create weak societies, weak societies create strong men.
    We’re at that last phase. Expect a bright future.”

    I see you stopped at Mike Flynn's Koolaid stand again.

    I always stop at lemonade stands. If kid goes to the trouble, I'm buying.
    No exceptions.

    I've never seen a Kool-Aid stand nor a stand run by an adult.

    This is part where I ask where I'm incorrect.

    -TE

    “In short, the Clinton campaign created the Trump-Alfa allegation, fed it to a credulous press that failed to confirm the allegations but ran with them anyway, then promoted the story as if it was legFitimate news. The campaign also delivered the
    claims to the FBI, giving journalists another excuse to portray the accusations as serious and perhaps true.”

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  • From RoddyMcCorley@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 8 21:18:28 2022
    On 8/8/2022 9:09 PM, TE wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:57:43 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals/amp

    The President’s loud complaint to John Kelly one day was typical: “You >> fucking generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?”

    “Which generals?” Kelly asked.

    “The German generals in World War II,” Trump responded.

    “You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled >> it off?” Kelly said.

    But, of course, Trump did not know that. “No, no, no, they were totally
    loyal to him,” the President replied. In his version of history, the
    generals of the Third Reich had been completely subservient to Hitler; this >> was the model he wanted for his military.

    —-

    Yes. Trump actually wanted our generals to be more like Hitler’s. Or at
    least what he thought Hitler’s generals were. Yes he actually said it. So, >> yes he’s a fascist.

    There’s much more in the article that backs this up.

    Hmmm....The FBI and other security organs, a presidential candidate, the US Congress,
    the media...and as you know, the list goes on, attempted to remove a sitting US president
    by producing and knowingly disseminated false information that he was a traitor. We were
    repeatedly told by members of the Foreign Intelligence cesspool that they have SEEN THE
    PROOF! ITS 100% TRUE!!! Sorry, the fascists self-identified a couple of years ago.

    Sorry, an unsubstantiated rant by Trump which has zero impact on the nation hardly
    reaches the level of our Democratic, bureaucratic and media fascists who actually
    attempted a coup.

    -TE

    “I see some fear rising these days from libs over losing a cultural war they thought they
    could suppress: manhood. Dems will never be the party that makes a man feel good
    about his manliness. It’s anathema to their big agenda but also simply an ideology
    that won’t allow it. The feminization of society can only work after men have built and
    secured it. And it can only last until their beta males collapse into a puddle of goo.
    The cycle is always, ever: Strong men build strong societies, strong societies create
    weak men, weak men create weak societies, weak societies create strong men. We’re at that last phase. Expect a bright future.”


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    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
    liberal personality.” — Altie

    I see you stopped at Mike Flynn's Koolaid stand again.

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    practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

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  • From Tim VanWagoner@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Aug 9 16:52:45 2022
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 9:57:43 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals/amp

    The President’s loud complaint to John Kelly one day was typical: “You fucking generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?”

    “Which generals?” Kelly asked.

    “The German generals in World War II,” Trump responded.

    “You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?” Kelly said.

    But, of course, Trump did not know that. “No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” the President replied. In his version of history, the generals of the Third Reich had been completely subservient to Hitler; this was the model he wanted for his military.

    —-

    Yes. Trump actually wanted our generals to be more like Hitler’s. Or at least what he thought Hitler’s generals were. Yes he actually said it. So, yes he’s a fascist.

    There’s much more in the article that backs this up.

    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie


    This whole article is just frightening.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to tim.vanwa...@gmail.com on Wed Aug 10 10:09:46 2022
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 4:52:47 PM UTC-7, tim.vanwa...@gmail.com wrote:

    This whole article is just frightening.

    Now think of how many people believe America would be better off a Nazi regime.

    Mike (It's more than you might think!)

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  • From Eric Ramon@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Wed Aug 10 11:33:47 2022
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 10:09:48 AM UTC-7, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 4:52:47 PM UTC-7, tim.vanwa...@gmail.com wrote:

    This whole article is just frightening.
    Now think of how many people believe America would be better off a Nazi regime.

    Mike (It's more than you might think!)

    true. I don't get why Repubs stick with the grifter Trump when they've got a perfectly respectable would-be dictator in DeSantis.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Eric Ramon on Thu Aug 11 10:35:50 2022
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 11:33:49 AM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 10:09:48 AM UTC-7, Michael Falkner wrote:

    Now think of how many people believe America would be better off a Nazi regime.

    true. I don't get why Repubs stick with the grifter Trump when they've got a perfectly respectable would-be dictator in DeSantis.

    They don't want a President. They want someone to host the new American reality show to give them the order to open fire on "them".

    Mike

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