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  • Big Ten grabbing the LA market?

    From JGibson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 30 11:00:32 2022
  • From RSFC Moderator@21:1/5 to JGibson on Thu Jun 30 11:31:50 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 2:00:36 PM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    B1g, if true.

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  • From Eric Ramon@21:1/5 to RSFC Moderator on Thu Jun 30 11:36:00 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-7, RSFC Moderator wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 2:00:36 PM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    B1g, if true.

    granted, neither of them has dominated the Pac-12 like they used to, but this would make the remaining teams WCC-like.

    Since the word is 2024 at the earliest I wonder what two mediocre football seasons would do to the shiny-ness. On the other hand, if Riley and Kelly get the SoCal teams to the top of the Pac-12 this would be quite the coup for the B1G.

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  • From RSFC Moderator@21:1/5 to Eric Ramon on Thu Jun 30 12:23:33 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 2:36:04 PM UTC-4, Eric Ramon wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-7, RSFC Moderator wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 2:00:36 PM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    B1g, if true.
    granted, neither of them has dominated the Pac-12 like they used to, but this would make the remaining teams WCC-like.

    Since the word is 2024 at the earliest I wonder what two mediocre football seasons would do to the shiny-ness. On the other hand, if Riley and Kelly get the SoCal teams to the top of the Pac-12 this would be quite the coup for the B1G.

    I hope it's not true, but of course it's true. Sad day.

    U$C and UCLA may not be at their peak shiny-ness, but you have to remember the B1G took Rutsgers. From than, I think we can infer market size trumps fan interest.

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  • From RoddyMcCorley@21:1/5 to JGibson on Thu Jun 30 16:30:17 2022
    On 6/30/2022 2:00 PM, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    Sounds like something that The Onion might publish.

    Overall, disappointing.

    Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers in the B10.

    Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Missouri in the SEC.

    WVA in the B12.

    Turn the clock back 50 years.

    --
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In
    practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to RSFC Moderator on Thu Jun 30 13:57:42 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 3:23:37 PM UTC-4, RSFC Moderator wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 2:36:04 PM UTC-4, Eric Ramon wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-7, RSFC Moderator wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 2:00:36 PM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    B1g, if true.
    granted, neither of them has dominated the Pac-12 like they used to, but this would make the remaining teams WCC-like.

    Since the word is 2024 at the earliest I wonder what two mediocre football seasons would do to the shiny-ness. On the other hand, if Riley and Kelly get the SoCal teams to the top of the Pac-12 this would be quite the coup for the B1G.
    I hope it's not true, but of course it's true. Sad day.

    U$C and UCLA may not be at their peak shiny-ness, but you have to remember the B1G took Rutsgers. From than, I think we can infer market size trumps fan interest.

    Big Ten going to move their championship game from Indianapolis to the Rose Bowl?

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  • From Eric Ramon@21:1/5 to JGibson on Thu Jun 30 14:29:32 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 1:57:46 PM UTC-7, JGibson wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 3:23:37 PM UTC-4, RSFC Moderator wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 2:36:04 PM UTC-4, Eric Ramon wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-7, RSFC Moderator wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 2:00:36 PM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    B1g, if true.
    granted, neither of them has dominated the Pac-12 like they used to, but this would make the remaining teams WCC-like.

    Since the word is 2024 at the earliest I wonder what two mediocre football seasons would do to the shiny-ness. On the other hand, if Riley and Kelly get the SoCal teams to the top of the Pac-12 this would be quite the coup for the B1G.
    I hope it's not true, but of course it's true. Sad day.

    U$C and UCLA may not be at their peak shiny-ness, but you have to remember the B1G took Rutsgers. From than, I think we can infer market size trumps fan interest.
    Big Ten going to move their championship game from Indianapolis to the Rose Bowl?

    I guess USC vs Northwestern is as meaningful to Angelenos as USC vs Oregon State.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to JGibson on Thu Jun 30 17:39:47 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 1:57:46 PM UTC-7, JGibson wrote:

    Big Ten going to move their championship game from Indianapolis to the Rose Bowl?

    I could see it BECOMING The Rose Bowl in a non-CFP reality.

    Mike

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  • From TE@21:1/5 to JGibson on Thu Jun 30 17:32:25 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 2:00:36 PM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    There are going to be so few conferences everyone will be effectively an independent.

    -TE

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 30 17:41:34 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 5:32:28 PM UTC-7, TE wrote:

    There are going to be so few conferences everyone will be effectively an independent.

    You're looking at it the wrong direction. Championship College-Pro Football will have, at most, 48 teams in two superconferences.

    16 in ONE is not out of the question, 32 in two might be more likely.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Thu Jun 30 17:48:45 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 5:39:50 PM UTC-7, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 1:57:46 PM UTC-7, JGibson wrote:
    Big Ten going to move their championship game from Indianapolis to the Rose Bowl?
    I could see it BECOMING The Rose Bowl in a non-CFP reality.

    In fact, I'll take it further:

    Rose Bowl is the Western/Northern Superconference Championship Game.

    There will be quite the bidding war between the Sugar, Cotton, and Orange for the Southern Superconference Championship Game.

    Mike

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 1 07:38:06 2022
    Rose Bowl is the Western/Northern Superconference Championship Game.

    There will be quite the bidding war between the Sugar, Cotton, and Orange for the Southern Superconference Championship Game.

    So much for "the playoff," then - each conference has a four-team (maybe 8, if the conferences are big enough) championship tournament, and the two winners meet in the Whatever They Want To Call The Superdivision Championship Game ("and the NFL doing it
    this way hurts that league in what way, exactly?")

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Fri Jul 1 08:25:11 2022
    On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 7:38:10 AM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
    Rose Bowl is the Western/Northern Superconference Championship Game.

    There will be quite the bidding war between the Sugar, Cotton, and Orange for the Southern Superconference Championship Game.
    So much for "the playoff," then - each conference has a four-team (maybe 8, if the conferences are big enough) championship tournament, and the two winners meet in the Whatever They Want To Call The Superdivision Championship Game ("and the NFL doing
    it this way hurts that league in what way, exactly?")

    And that's your national playoff.

    Mike

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  • From Eric Ramon@21:1/5 to JGibson on Fri Jul 1 15:01:05 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 11:00:36 AM UTC-7, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    I am curious what this will do to recruiting, obviously from an Oregon perspective. I can see some decommits and some prospects moving away from Oregon or any remaining Pac-12 team.

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  • From unclejr@21:1/5 to Eric Ramon on Fri Jul 1 19:41:39 2022
    On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 5:01:08 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 11:00:36 AM UTC-7, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    I am curious what this will do to recruiting, obviously from an Oregon perspective. I can see some decommits and some prospects moving away from Oregon or any remaining Pac-12 team.

    That depends if they get absorbed into either of the two superconferences.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to unclejr on Fri Jul 1 20:56:22 2022
    On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 7:41:41 PM UTC-7, unclejr wrote:
    On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 5:01:08 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 11:00:36 AM UTC-7, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    I am curious what this will do to recruiting, obviously from an Oregon perspective. I can see some decommits and some prospects moving away from Oregon or any remaining Pac-12 team.
    That depends if they get absorbed into either of the two superconferences.

    Oregon gets absorbed or Nike leaves. It's that simple.

    Mike

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 2 08:03:57 2022
    I am curious what this will do to recruiting, obviously from an Oregon perspective. I can see some decommits and some prospects moving away from Oregon or any remaining Pac-12 team.
    That depends if they get absorbed into either of the two superconferences.
    Oregon gets absorbed or Nike leaves. It's that simple.

    Nike has FAR too much invested in Hayward Stadium (there's a reason it's hosting Track & Field Worlds in two weeks) to abandon Oregon. The question is, can Nike compete with the Joe Sixpack boosters with money to burn in SEC and Big 10 states?

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  • From Eric Ramon@21:1/5 to JGibson on Mon Jul 4 14:15:11 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 11:00:36 AM UTC-7, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    looking at the standings from 2021 I agree, the Big Ten has grabbed the LA *market*. No offense to fans of USC but 4-8 isn't all that good. Maybe Riley can turn it around. And, of course, it won't be until the next TWO seasons have been played and lots
    can change in that time.

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  • From Eric Ramon@21:1/5 to RoddyMcCorley on Mon Jul 4 23:46:06 2022
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:22:45 PM UTC-7, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
    On 7/4/2022 5:15 PM, Eric Ramon wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 11:00:36 AM UTC-7, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    looking at the standings from 2021 I agree, the Big Ten has grabbed the LA *market*. No offense to fans of USC but 4-8 isn't all that good. Maybe Riley can turn it around. And, of course, it won't be until the next TWO seasons have been played and
    lots can change in that time.
    Make the moves probationary. See how TX, OK, SC and UCLA do over the
    next two years. Aside from SC, they all have untested or lackluster coaches. --
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In
    practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

    what has Riley done that Chip Kelly hasn't?

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  • From RoddyMcCorley@21:1/5 to Eric Ramon on Tue Jul 5 02:22:39 2022
    On 7/4/2022 5:15 PM, Eric Ramon wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 11:00:36 AM UTC-7, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    looking at the standings from 2021 I agree, the Big Ten has grabbed the LA *market*. No offense to fans of USC but 4-8 isn't all that good. Maybe Riley can turn it around. And, of course, it won't be until the next TWO seasons have been played and lots
    can change in that time.

    Make the moves probationary. See how TX, OK, SC and UCLA do over the
    next two years. Aside from SC, they all have untested or lackluster coaches.

    --
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In
    practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

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  • From RoddyMcCorley@21:1/5 to Eric Ramon on Tue Jul 5 16:25:02 2022
    On 7/5/2022 2:46 AM, Eric Ramon wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:22:45 PM UTC-7, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
    On 7/4/2022 5:15 PM, Eric Ramon wrote:
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 11:00:36 AM UTC-7, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    looking at the standings from 2021 I agree, the Big Ten has grabbed the LA *market*. No offense to fans of USC but 4-8 isn't all that good. Maybe Riley can turn it around. And, of course, it won't be until the next TWO seasons have been played and
    lots can change in that time.
    Make the moves probationary. See how TX, OK, SC and UCLA do over the
    next two years. Aside from SC, they all have untested or lackluster coaches. >> --
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In
    practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

    what has Riley done that Chip Kelly hasn't?
    Going from memory alone, it seems that Riley has been a more consistent
    winner. Kelly was good at Oregon, but that is a while ago.

    --
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In
    practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

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  • From unclejr@21:1/5 to JGibson on Wed Aug 17 18:46:57 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 1:00:36 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-looking-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-though-deal-not-yet-finalized/

    LOL

    https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1560000190882254848

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