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  • Re: Democracy is dead...

    From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to leonard hofstatder on Tue Jun 7 10:11:07 2022
    On 6/7/2022 10:02 AM, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    https://www.democracydocket.com/news/republicans-are-plotting-to-subvert-elections-right-before-our-eyes/


    Good. Long live the Republic.

    --
    ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen

    Слава Україні та НАТО

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  • From leonard hofstatder@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 7 09:02:17 2022
  • From RoddyMcCorley@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Tue Jun 7 16:59:41 2022
    On 6/7/2022 4:16 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 7:11:12 AM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 6/7/2022 10:02 AM, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    https://www.democracydocket.com/news/republicans-are-plotting-to-subvert-elections-right-before-our-eyes/


    Good. Long live the Republic.

    Over my dead body.

    Freedom is an abject falsehood. It matters not to the person with a boot on their neck whose boot is on their neck.

    If the Right wants what we all know they do, they. are. going. to. have. to. kill. us.

    Mike

    "Freedom is just another word for nothin' left to lose
    Nothin', don't mean nothin' hon' if it ain't free, no-no
    And feelin' good was easy, Lord, when he sang the blues
    You know feelin' good was good enough for me
    Good enough for me and my Bobby McGee."

    --
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In
    practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Tue Jun 7 13:16:22 2022
    On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 7:11:12 AM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 6/7/2022 10:02 AM, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    https://www.democracydocket.com/news/republicans-are-plotting-to-subvert-elections-right-before-our-eyes/


    Good. Long live the Republic.

    Over my dead body.

    Freedom is an abject falsehood. It matters not to the person with a boot on their neck whose boot is on their neck.

    If the Right wants what we all know they do, they. are. going. to. have. to. kill. us.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to RoddyMcCorley on Tue Jun 7 14:45:18 2022
    On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 1:59:45 PM UTC-7, RoddyMcCorley wrote:

    "Freedom is just another word for nothin' left to lose
    Nothin', don't mean nothin' hon' if it ain't free, no-no
    And feelin' good was easy, Lord, when he sang the blues
    You know feelin' good was good enough for me
    Good enough for me and my Bobby McGee."

    And that's why freedom is a terrorist act.

    Mike

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to RoddyMcCorley on Wed Jun 8 06:25:51 2022
    On 6/7/2022 4:59 PM, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
    On 6/7/2022 4:16 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 7:11:12 AM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 6/7/2022 10:02 AM, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    https://www.democracydocket.com/news/republicans-are-plotting-to-subvert-elections-right-before-our-eyes/



    Good. Long live the Republic.

    Over my dead body.

    Freedom is an abject falsehood.  It matters not to the person with a
    boot on their neck whose boot is on their neck.

    If the Right wants what we all know they do, they.  are.  going.  to.
    have.  to.  kill.  us.

    Mike

    "Freedom is just another word for nothin' left to lose
    Nothin', don't mean nothin' hon' if it ain't free, no-no
    And feelin' good was easy, Lord, when he sang the blues
    You know feelin' good was good enough for me
    Good enough for me and my Bobby McGee."


    Freedom is not found in a system where 51% of the people can dominate
    the 49% in every way.

    --
    ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen

    Слава Україні та НАТО

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Wed Jun 8 10:46:05 2022
    Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org> wrote:
    On 6/7/2022 4:59 PM, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
    On 6/7/2022 4:16 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 7:11:12 AM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 6/7/2022 10:02 AM, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    https://www.democracydocket.com/news/republicans-are-plotting-to-subvert-elections-right-before-our-eyes/




    Good. Long live the Republic.

    Over my dead body.

    Freedom is an abject falsehood.  It matters not to the person with a
    boot on their neck whose boot is on their neck.

    If the Right wants what we all know they do, they.  are.  going.  to. >>> have.  to.  kill.  us.

    Mike

    "Freedom is just another word for nothin' left to lose
    Nothin', don't mean nothin' hon' if it ain't free, no-no
    And feelin' good was easy, Lord, when he sang the blues
    You know feelin' good was good enough for me
    Good enough for me and my Bobby McGee."


    Freedom is not found in a system where 51% of the people can dominate
    the 49% in every way.

    Well it’s definitely not found in a system where 46% of the people can dominate the 54% in every way.

    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Wed Jun 8 04:00:44 2022
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 3:25:56 AM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

    Freedom is not found in a system where 51% of the people can dominate
    the 49% in every way.

    You are ALMOST correct.

    "Rights", as we know them, are enforced impositions to the 49% so the 51% doesn't kill them -- or, in xyzzy's math, the 46% with all the guns doesn't kill them.

    If you take a look at American history, you know not only where this is going to end if your side gets their way, but the way it must end if that side of the equation is to win.

    The Founders never intended anyone but the White Man with Land to survive, using the baby machines (read: submissive women) to propagate.

    Mike

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  • From joe@mich.com@21:1/5 to leonard hofstatder on Wed Jun 8 09:41:28 2022
    On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:02:17 -0500, leonard hofstatder <n.nut@comcast.net> wrote:

    https://www.democracydocket.com/news/republicans-are-plotting-to-subvert-elections-right-before-our-eyes/

    Good Lord!! We can't have Republican poll watchers watching the vote count at close range. Even worse, we can't have boxes of votes of unverified
    andi/or unsigned ballots delivered to the precinct be discarded. This kind of action could change the election "result" and indeed subvert Democratic
    efforts.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to j...@mich.com on Wed Jun 8 08:24:21 2022
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 6:41:33 AM UTC-7, j...@mich.com wrote:
    On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:02:17 -0500, leonard hofstatder <n....@comcast.net> wrote:

    https://www.democracydocket.com/news/republicans-are-plotting-to-subvert-elections-right-before-our-eyes/

    Good Lord!! We can't have Republican poll watchers watching the vote count at close range. Even worse, we can't have boxes of votes of unverified
    andi/or unsigned ballots delivered to the precinct be discarded. This kind of action could change the election "result" and indeed subvert Democratic
    efforts.

    If you really feel that's going on, how can any election be held in five months?

    Serious question?

    Mike (And when you're done answering that one: At what point would a full-scale armed rebellion against the government be acceptable to your side, if it isn't already?!?!?)

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  • From Eric Ramon@21:1/5 to j...@mich.com on Wed Jun 8 08:26:22 2022
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 6:41:33 AM UTC-7, j...@mich.com wrote:
    On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:02:17 -0500, leonard hofstatder <n....@comcast.net> wrote:

    https://www.democracydocket.com/news/republicans-are-plotting-to-subvert-elections-right-before-our-eyes/

    Good Lord!! We can't have Republican poll watchers watching the vote count at close range. Even worse, we can't have boxes of votes of unverified
    andi/or unsigned ballots delivered to the precinct be discarded. This kind of action could change the election "result" and indeed subvert Democratic
    efforts.

    you sound like a stupid partisan. I can't stand unhinged partisans. Common sense goes out the window. Do you have a job? Would you be comfortable with someone standing or sitting 24 inches from you while you do your job?

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  • From joe@mich.com@21:1/5 to Eric Ramon on Wed Jun 8 13:46:32 2022
    On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 08:26:22 -0700 (PDT), Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 6:41:33 AM UTC-7, j...@mich.com wrote:
    On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:02:17 -0500, leonard hofstatder <n....@comcast.net> wrote:

    https://www.democracydocket.com/news/republicans-are-plotting-to-subvert-elections-right-before-our-eyes/

    Good Lord!! We can't have Republican poll watchers watching the vote count at close range. Even worse, we can't have boxes of votes of unverified
    andi/or unsigned ballots delivered to the precinct be discarded. This kind of action could change the election "result" and indeed subvert Democratic
    efforts.

    you sound like a stupid partisan. I can't stand unhinged partisans. Common sense goes out the window. Do you have a job? Would you be comfortable with someone standing or sitting 24 inches from you while you do your job?

    I can certainly understand why some vote counters would feel uncomfortable with someone watching their count closely. I can also undertand why some
    people would go off the rails at the thought of a verified accurate count.

    I can't tell if your response in tongue-in-cheek or if the thought of monitoring the vote count closely really made you go bananas.

    BTW, when you go to a bank teller to cash a check or make a withdrawal, do you verify the accuracy of the cash given to you by watching from 24 inches
    away?

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