• Some Republican Actually Found Their Balls!

    From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 14 16:40:06 2022
    Too bad he'll be lumped in with that homeless-killer in NYC and Washington, DC. Either because he was expecting a movement (or trying to start one) and didn't get any, or he finally just COULD. NOT. WAIT. ANY. LONGER.

    But the guy in Buffalo appears to tick most, if not all, of the boxes...

    -- White Supremacist (probably meaning MAGA or at least Republican)
    -- body armor and military fatigues (acting under color of the 2nd Amendment, as a member of the militia)
    -- Black/Poor neighborhood (putting his money/bullets where his mouth is)
    -- Manifesto online
    -- Livestreamed it (meaning he either wanted to start something or to livestream his own execution)

    ... making me state:

    1) Which one of you is no longer with us...

    and

    2) Someone actually found their nuts, got their gun muzzle out of their anus, put their military fatigues and body armor on, turned off the gun porn, and actually DID SOMETHING.

    If MAGA and Republicans wanna take this country back, this needs to be multiplied by tens or hundreds of thousands -- or, frankly, shut the fuck up and let the adults try to save this country.

    But, as much as it is abhorrent and needs to be condemned, it's only because, end of the day, it's going to be dismissed as one nutcase.

    When, really, if you watch what a lot of these people are saying, this is exactly what a lot on the American Right are calling for -- but no one has the guts to start it.

    And here's why.

    Mike

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Sat May 14 21:48:35 2022
    On 5/14/2022 7:40 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Too bad he'll be lumped in with that homeless-killer in NYC and Washington, DC. Either because he was expecting a movement (or trying to start one) and didn't get any, or he finally just COULD. NOT. WAIT. ANY. LONGER.

    But the guy in Buffalo appears to tick most, if not all, of the boxes...

    -- White Supremacist (probably meaning MAGA or at least Republican)
    -- body armor and military fatigues (acting under color of the 2nd Amendment, as a member of the militia)
    -- Black/Poor neighborhood (putting his money/bullets where his mouth is)
    -- Manifesto online
    -- Livestreamed it (meaning he either wanted to start something or to livestream his own execution)

    ... making me state:

    1) Which one of you is no longer with us...

    and

    2) Someone actually found their nuts, got their gun muzzle out of their anus, put their military fatigues and body armor on, turned off the gun porn, and actually DID SOMETHING.

    If MAGA and Republicans wanna take this country back, this needs to be multiplied by tens or hundreds of thousands -- or, frankly, shut the fuck up and let the adults try to save this country.

    But, as much as it is abhorrent and needs to be condemned, it's only because, end of the day, it's going to be dismissed as one nutcase.

    When, really, if you watch what a lot of these people are saying, this is exactly what a lot on the American Right are calling for -- but no one has the guts to start it.

    And here's why.

    Mike

    There is a word for you. Delusional.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Sat May 14 19:24:34 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 6:48:41 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

    There is a word for you. Delusional.

    Only because society doesn't want me around.

    That motherfucker in Buffalo today was a card-carrying MAGAt and I'm surprised some of you who want the Democrats out of power aren't celebrating.

    Because you're going to need to go the same damn route to get shit done.

    Mike

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  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Sun May 15 02:59:32 2022
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:24:36 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 6:48:41 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

    There is a word for you. Delusional.
    Only because society doesn't want me around.

    That motherfucker in Buffalo today was a card-carrying MAGAt and I'm surprised some of you who want the Democrats out of power aren't celebrating.

    Because you're going to need to go the same damn route to get shit done.

    Mike
    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/2021-ends-as-chicagos-deadliest-year-in-a-quarter-century/2719307/

    America is jaded by all the crime and violence. It's not the first supermarket where this kind of thing has happened. Colorado comes to mind. Will some other psycho killer do this again? Probably. Maybe some other psycho will be original like the big
    Las Vegas shooting. In any case it's not the one thing. There are as many reasons as there are insane people who carry this kind crime out.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Sun May 15 14:38:07 2022
    On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 2:59:34 AM UTC-7, floaterjr wrote:
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:24:36 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 6:48:41 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

    There is a word for you. Delusional.
    Only because society doesn't want me around.

    That motherfucker in Buffalo today was a card-carrying MAGAt and I'm surprised some of you who want the Democrats out of power aren't celebrating.

    Because you're going to need to go the same damn route to get shit done.

    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/2021-ends-as-chicagos-deadliest-year-in-a-quarter-century/2719307/

    America is jaded by all the crime and violence. It's not the first supermarket where this kind of thing has happened. Colorado comes to mind. Will some other psycho killer do this again? Probably. Maybe some other psycho will be original like the big
    Las Vegas shooting. In any case it's not the one thing. There are as many reasons as there are insane people who carry this kind crime out.

    That's true, except, in this case, there appears to be significant background information which makes it appear this is a MAGA-motivated event. Whether "blaze of glory" or "openly trying to be the seed to start something national"...

    Mike

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  • From RoddyMcCorley@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Mon May 16 16:11:48 2022
    On 5/15/2022 5:59 AM, floaterjr wrote:
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:24:36 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 6:48:41 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

    There is a word for you. Delusional.
    Only because society doesn't want me around.

    That motherfucker in Buffalo today was a card-carrying MAGAt and I'm surprised some of you who want the Democrats out of power aren't celebrating.

    Because you're going to need to go the same damn route to get shit done.

    Mike
    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/2021-ends-as-chicagos-deadliest-year-in-a-quarter-century/2719307/

    America is jaded by all the crime and violence. It's not the first supermarket where this kind of thing has happened. Colorado comes to mind. Will some other psycho killer do this again? Probably. Maybe some other psycho will be original like the
    big Las Vegas shooting. In any case it's not the one thing. There are as many reasons as there are insane people who carry this kind crime out.

    Any yet there are many who are against "red flag" laws that might keep
    these psychos from obtaining guns and ammo.

    BTW, how does someone like this shooter develop so much hatred by the
    time he is 18 YO? Too much Tucker Carlson?

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to RoddyMcCorley on Mon May 16 14:25:50 2022
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 1:11:50 PM UTC-7, RoddyMcCorley wrote:

    Any yet there are many who are against "red flag" laws that might keep
    these psychos from obtaining guns and ammo.

    BTW, how does someone like this shooter develop so much hatred by the
    time he is 18 YO? Too much Tucker Carlson?

    Word is, quite literally yes.

    Mike

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  • From TE@21:1/5 to RoddyMcCorley on Wed May 18 17:59:11 2022
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 4:11:50 PM UTC-4, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
    On 5/15/2022 5:59 AM, floaterjr wrote:

    Any yet there are many who are against "red flag" laws that might keep
    these psychos from obtaining guns and ammo.

    Nikolas Cruz and 'Restorative Justice' fans and BLM say HI!

    BTW, how does someone like this shooter develop so much hatred by the
    time he is 18 YO? Too much Tucker Carlson?

    The guy has been a nut for most of his short life. I'm sure he got plenty of info on 'Replacement Theory' developed and pushed by the Democrats, WaPo,
    NYTs etc. before Carlson even pointed-it-out.

    -TE

    April 14th “was a flagship day in corporate media. It was the day they were forced to explicitly state what has long been clear: they not only favor censorship but desperately crave and depend on it. Even if Musk doesn’t buy Twitter, never forget
    what [Thursday] revealed.”

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 18 18:39:56 2022
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:59:13 PM UTC-7, TE wrote:
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 4:11:50 PM UTC-4, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
    On 5/15/2022 5:59 AM, floaterjr wrote:

    Any yet there are many who are against "red flag" laws that might keep these psychos from obtaining guns and ammo.
    Nikolas Cruz and 'Restorative Justice' fans and BLM say HI!

    Which is why I said your side finally found a set of balls. Now, multiply that to 100 million of us dead in the immediate future, and you might be able to save this country as you want it.

    The bad news is, since you only found ONE SET, he's going to be seen as psycho, because it's more important in this country to be acceptable than correct. That's why there is no right to life (God's will can take it), nor liberty nor to pursue happiness
    (you have to be "acceptable" first -- and those aren't granted by God, but by the state and society).

    This is one reason I say "Fuck Freedom" and "Fuck Liberty". It doesn't matter, from the other side, who's trying to kill you or stamp their foot on your throat.

    BTW, how does someone like this shooter develop so much hatred by the
    time he is 18 YO? Too much Tucker Carlson?

    The guy has been a nut for most of his short life. I'm sure he got plenty of info on 'Replacement Theory' developed and pushed by the Democrats, WaPo, NYTs etc. before Carlson even pointed-it-out.

    I'd say he's only a nut because he actually did what you need to have done and neither you nor yours has the guts to have followed suit.

    In short, you left someone you would consider a rightful patriot out to dry.

    Mike

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  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Thu May 19 08:02:51 2022
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:40:00 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:59:13 PM UTC-7, TE wrote:
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 4:11:50 PM UTC-4, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
    On 5/15/2022 5:59 AM, floaterjr wrote:

    Any yet there are many who are against "red flag" laws that might keep these psychos from obtaining guns and ammo.
    Nikolas Cruz and 'Restorative Justice' fans and BLM say HI!
    Which is why I said your side finally found a set of balls. Now, multiply that to 100 million of us dead in the immediate future, and you might be able to save this country as you want it.

    The bad news is, since you only found ONE SET, he's going to be seen as psycho, because it's more important in this country to be acceptable than correct. That's why there is no right to life (God's will can take it), nor liberty nor to pursue
    happiness (you have to be "acceptable" first -- and those aren't granted by God, but by the state and society).

    This is one reason I say "Fuck Freedom" and "Fuck Liberty". It doesn't matter, from the other side, who's trying to kill you or stamp their foot on your throat.
    BTW, how does someone like this shooter develop so much hatred by the time he is 18 YO? Too much Tucker Carlson?

    The guy has been a nut for most of his short life. I'm sure he got plenty of
    info on 'Replacement Theory' developed and pushed by the Democrats, WaPo, NYTs etc. before Carlson even pointed-it-out.
    I'd say he's only a nut because he actually did what you need to have done and neither you nor yours has the guts to have followed suit.

    In short, you left someone you would consider a rightful patriot out to dry.

    Mike
    Everyone is looking for a political angle to explain what is not a political act. A immature. attention seeking, sociopath, who cannot empathize with others suffering. The politics are the excuse for his actions not the reason.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Thu May 19 10:39:23 2022
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 8:02:53 AM UTC-7, floaterjr wrote:

    Everyone is looking for a political angle to explain what is not a political act. A immature. attention seeking, sociopath, who cannot empathize with others suffering. The politics are the excuse for his actions not the reason.

    I don't have to look for the political angle. It's staring you right down the throat.

    What this guy did was exactly what hundreds and thousands of Republicans have wanted to do for a long time -- and that number or far more NEED TO DO to take their country back in their ethos.

    Mike

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  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Thu May 19 12:37:52 2022
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 1:39:25 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 8:02:53 AM UTC-7, floaterjr wrote:

    Everyone is looking for a political angle to explain what is not a political act. A immature. attention seeking, sociopath, who cannot empathize with others suffering. The politics are the excuse for his actions not the reason.
    I don't have to look for the political angle. It's staring you right down the throat.

    What this guy did was exactly what hundreds and thousands of Republicans have wanted to do for a long time -- and that number or far more NEED TO DO to take their country back in their ethos.

    Mike
    Killers who kill like this, do it for two reasons, Revenge against some perceived wrong, workplace, school. For the thrill of it Ted Bundy, BTK etc. This oddball who did this didn't belong to a group that promoted terrorism nor is he the unabomber.
    Political manifesto? He just plagiarized some internet junk. This puck was not wronged by a supermarket nor black people. He may have been mad about something but the politics of it are his excuse. The reason is closer to the BTK side of it for the
    thrill of it. You'll notice he had no intention of dying. He was going to survive to enjoy his handy work.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Thu May 19 13:08:23 2022
    On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 12:37:54 PM UTC-7, floaterjr wrote:

    Killers who kill like this, do it for two reasons, Revenge against some perceived wrong, workplace, school. For the thrill of it Ted Bundy, BTK etc. This oddball who did this didn't belong to a group that promoted terrorism nor is he the unabomber.
    Political manifesto? He just plagiarized some internet junk. This puck was not wronged by a supermarket nor black people. He may have been mad about something but the politics of it are his excuse. The reason is closer to the BTK side of it for the
    thrill of it. You'll notice he had no intention of dying. He was going to survive to enjoy his handy work.

    I would disagree with you for one reason -- now he gets a day in court.

    Might we finally see someone invoke the Second Amendment to justify this level of misconduct?

    Mike

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  • From RoddyMcCorley@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Fri May 20 00:53:38 2022
    On 5/19/2022 11:02 AM, floaterjr wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:40:00 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:59:13 PM UTC-7, TE wrote:
    On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 4:11:50 PM UTC-4, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
    On 5/15/2022 5:59 AM, floaterjr wrote:

    Any yet there are many who are against "red flag" laws that might keep >>>> these psychos from obtaining guns and ammo.
    Nikolas Cruz and 'Restorative Justice' fans and BLM say HI!
    Which is why I said your side finally found a set of balls. Now, multiply that to 100 million of us dead in the immediate future, and you might be able to save this country as you want it.

    The bad news is, since you only found ONE SET, he's going to be seen as psycho, because it's more important in this country to be acceptable than correct. That's why there is no right to life (God's will can take it), nor liberty nor to pursue
    happiness (you have to be "acceptable" first -- and those aren't granted by God, but by the state and society).

    This is one reason I say "Fuck Freedom" and "Fuck Liberty". It doesn't matter, from the other side, who's trying to kill you or stamp their foot on your throat.
    BTW, how does someone like this shooter develop so much hatred by the
    time he is 18 YO? Too much Tucker Carlson?

    The guy has been a nut for most of his short life. I'm sure he got plenty of
    info on 'Replacement Theory' developed and pushed by the Democrats, WaPo, >>> NYTs etc. before Carlson even pointed-it-out.
    I'd say he's only a nut because he actually did what you need to have done and neither you nor yours has the guts to have followed suit.

    In short, you left someone you would consider a rightful patriot out to dry. >>
    Mike
    Everyone is looking for a political angle to explain what is not a political act. A immature. attention seeking, sociopath, who cannot empathize with others suffering. The politics are the excuse for his actions not the reason.

    He got an incomplete in his SEL class.

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    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In
    practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

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