No one saw this coming?

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/miami-s-isaiah-wong-wants-more-nil-money-but-miami-billionaire-john-ruiz-does-not-renegotiate-01g1tr95d8ta

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RoddyMcCorley <Roddy.McCorley@verizon.net> wrote:

No one saw this coming?

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/miami-s-isaiah-wong-wants-more-nil-money-but-miami-billionaire-john-ruiz-does-not-renegotiate-01g1tr95d8ta

Awesome. College sports as we’ve known it is officially dead.

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On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 4:49:19 AM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:

RoddyMcCorley <Roddy.M...@verizon.net> wrote:

No one saw this coming?

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/miami-s-isaiah-wong-wants-more-nil-money-but-miami-billionaire-john-ruiz-does-not-renegotiate-01g1tr95d8ta

Awesome. College sports as we’ve known it is officially dead.

There are more than a few people who would say this is a good thing.

Mike

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Michael Falkner <darkstar7646@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 4:49:19 AM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:

RoddyMcCorley <Roddy.M...@verizon.net> wrote:

No one saw this coming?

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/miami-s-isaiah-wong-wants-more-nil-money-but-miami-billionaire-john-ruiz-does-not-renegotiate-01g1tr95d8ta

Awesome. College sports as we’ve known it is officially dead.

There are more than a few people who would say this is a good thing.

Mike

I’m a massive hypocrite here. I think college athletes should get paid and have same freedom to jump around as coaches. But now that it’s coming true
I hate it and it’s one of the things that’s caused me to lose interest in college sports.

Maybe I should refocus my interest in Div III or more obscure sports that don’t have this kind of money sloshing around. Maybe this is why so many
old skool rfsckers have become women’s volleyball fans.

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On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:32:11 AM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:

I’m a massive hypocrite here. I think college athletes should get paid and have same freedom to jump around as coaches. But now that it’s coming true I hate it and it’s one of the things that’s caused me to lose interest in
college sports.

Two people who've said this are Brian Tuohy (who believes the below-the-table corruption means the colleges need to get out of sports entirely) and me (who, after Pedo State and Rapelor and all would like to see the NCAA die in a motherfucking fire).

The problem is, there are too many people invested in keeping the gravy train going.

And as far as NIL and the transfer portal, the fact is we just need to convert this into the pro minor league that it is (at least for football) and be done with it.

Maybe I should refocus my interest in Div III or more obscure sports that don’t have this kind of money sloshing around. Maybe this is why so many old skool rfsckers have become women’s volleyball fans.

The problem with that: How many of those sports survive when you start losing entire athletic programs (as in entire schools) to the fact they can't pay their players enough?

Mike

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On 5/10/2022 11:32 AM, xyzzy wrote:

Michael Falkner <darkstar7646@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 4:49:19 AM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:

RoddyMcCorley <Roddy.M...@verizon.net> wrote:

No one saw this coming?

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/miami-s-isaiah-wong-wants-more-nil-money-but-miami-billionaire-john-ruiz-does-not-renegotiate-01g1tr95d8ta

I’m a massive hypocrite here. I think college athletes should get paid and have same freedom to jump around as coaches. But now that it’s coming true I hate it and it’s one of the things that’s caused me to lose interest in college sports.

Maybe I should refocus my interest in Div III or more obscure sports that don’t have this kind of money sloshing around. Maybe this is why so many old skool rfsckers have become women’s volleyball fans.

Not really hypocritical. If it is done in moderation with some "rules,"
then it makes sense. But the current "rules" (of which there are really
none) focus on the star players and engender distorted competition
within and among teams and sports. Full scholarships are worth in the
range of $50,000 - $70,000 (or more). And the "scholar athletes" live
quite well on and off campus with wondrous training tables and academic support.

Why not just give them a scholarship and $500 - $1,000 a month for
spending money? Why not level the playing field for all D1 schools?

NIL becomes even more toxic with the transfer portal. Maybe you limit
the transfer window for each athlete to within the first two years after enrollment. An limit the number of portal transfers a taem can take on
to say five or ten for football. If the team loses more than 10 to the
portal, then it can add transfers up to some amount.

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On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:32:11 AM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:

Michael Falkner <darkst...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 4:49:19 AM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:

RoddyMcCorley <Roddy.M...@verizon.net> wrote:

No one saw this coming?

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/miami-s-isaiah-wong-wants-more-nil-money-but-miami-billionaire-john-ruiz-does-not-renegotiate-01g1tr95d8ta

Awesome. College sports as we’ve known it is officially dead.

There are more than a few people who would say this is a good thing.

Mike

I’m a massive hypocrite here. I think college athletes should get paid and have same freedom to jump around as coaches. But now that it’s coming true I hate it and it’s one of the things that’s caused me to lose interest in
college sports.

Maybe I should refocus my interest in Div III or more obscure sports that don’t have this kind of money sloshing around. Maybe this is why so many old skool rfsckers have become women’s volleyball fans.
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Go Columbia Lions!

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On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 12:38:28 PM UTC-7, RoddyMcCorley wrote:

Why not just give them a scholarship and $500 - $1,000 a month for
spending money? Why not level the playing field for all D1 schools?

Because the last thing anyone other than the "lesser schools" want is a level playing field.

Why do you think it took over 30 years of the BCS, CFP, Alliance, and Coalition to get a legit shot at the championship?

Because then it's easier to control the narrative if you know, going in, who's going to be there when you get out.

NIL becomes even more toxic with the transfer portal. Maybe you limit
the transfer window for each athlete to within the first two years after enrollment. An limit the number of portal transfers a taem can take on
to say five or ten for football. If the team loses more than 10 to the portal, then it can add transfers up to some amount.

The problem is that schools are just going to drop their athletic programs. Too many schools are basically only subsisting on the top-level football and men's basketball programs of other schools.

Mike

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On 5/10/2022 6:31 PM, Eric Ramon wrote:

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 8:32:11 AM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:

Michael Falkner <darkst...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 4:49:19 AM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:

RoddyMcCorley <Roddy.M...@verizon.net> wrote:

No one saw this coming?

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/miami-s-isaiah-wong-wants-more-nil-money-but-miami-billionaire-john-ruiz-does-not-renegotiate-01g1tr95d8ta

Awesome. College sports as we’ve known it is officially dead.

There are more than a few people who would say this is a good thing.

Mike

I’m a massive hypocrite here. I think college athletes should get paid and >> have same freedom to jump around as coaches. But now that it’s coming true >> I hate it and it’s one of the things that’s caused me to lose interest in
college sports.

Maybe I should refocus my interest in Div III or more obscure sports that
don’t have this kind of money sloshing around. Maybe this is why so many >> old skool rfsckers have become women’s volleyball fans.
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Go Columbia Lions!

Marty Domres was always under appreciated.

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I’m a massive hypocrite here. I think college athletes should get paid and have same freedom to jump around as coaches. But now that it’s coming true I hate it and it’s one of the things that’s caused me to lose interest in
college sports.

Maybe I should refocus my interest in Div III or more obscure sports that don’t have this kind of money sloshing around. Maybe this is why so many old skool rfsckers have become women’s volleyball fans.

You should see the activity in the transfer portal for women's volleyball, even though it has always had the "one free transfer" rule that football and basketball have now. It also has its share of NIL athletes. Did you see what Grambling's head women's
VB coach did?

As for paying players directly, there are two problems with this: (1) Title IX (which is VERY Constitutional and VERY enforceable, even with the ADA), and (2) either you set a national cap of some sort on salaries, which nobody is going to be happy with,
or you're going to have the best players going to the highest-paying schools. This is why there needs to be a clean break from the colleges if money is involved; since a private "superconference" wouldn't receive federal funding, it would not be subject
to Title IX.

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On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 9:48:51 AM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:

You should see the activity in the transfer portal for women's volleyball, even though it has always had the "one free transfer" rule that football and basketball have now. It also has its share of NIL athletes. Did you see what Grambling's head women'

s VB coach did?

This story has got some teeth to it. The new Grambling State coach used to coach at Arkansas-Pine Bluff and remembers being on the opposite end of... shall we say, some unsportsmanlike chants and cheers on the basis of something Grambling State does
with all their sports.

"You didn't think you'd see me again, did you? Maybe y'all will think again about who you call a bitch..."

After three running sessions meant to force the team to quit, she fired the entire team, cutting all 12 scholarships. There is now serious question as to whether there will BE a Grambling State women's volleyball team next year. Legal counsel has been
obtained for an investigation.

As for paying players directly, there are two problems with this: (1) Title IX (which is VERY Constitutional and VERY enforceable, even with the ADA),

Not if the Republicans have anything to say about it (and that's four or five different directions, two of which are transgender rights and their view of women in general!).

(And as for the earlier comment of mine he's referring to: If you try to (falsely) save women's sports by disallowing transgenderism in them, you toss out any ADA protections those people have. If you allow transgenderism, especially with the
increasing number of places who WILL outlaw it, you may be unable to field a team and self-fulfill their prophecy (there goes Title IX -- which, as I said above, I believe their eventual goal).)

and (2) either you set a national cap of some sort on salaries, which nobody is going to be happy with, or you're going to have the best players going to the highest-paying schools.

Which is already happening in the first place, and is why you believe...

This is why there needs to be a clean break from the colleges if money is involved; since a private "superconference" wouldn't receive federal funding, it would not be subject to Title IX.

There is a question as to whether Title IX would survive the eventual Red Wave, because the only reason for women near sports in the Republican ethos is either as a harem for said athletes (as the only people of value) or for pussies to grab.

Mike (making me wonder if some of these incels tried their luck somewhere and got a nasty (and well-deserved) surprise!)

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