• Democrat Ministry of Truth

    From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 30 05:39:40 2022
    "That the Biden Admin casually announced today that the
    Dept of Homeland Security — a domestic security agency —
    has created a ‘disinformation’ board is indescribably dystopian
    and chilling," Independent journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted
    Thursday. "That Democrats think this is good and normal tells
    you all you need to know about them."

    And when the Democrats talk about "disinformation" you know
    this is a hypocritical joke! These are the same people who pushed
    the fake "Russian Collusion Hoax" for years and totally buried
    the whole Hunter Biden laptop story!

    And to make matters even worse just look at the totally biased
    far left wing loon they put in charge of the new Democrat
    Ministry of Truth!

    Jesus wept! For America's sake I pray the Republicans take back
    the House and Senate in the mid-term elections!

    Irish Mike

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  • From Johnny RSFCootball@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sat Apr 30 06:34:43 2022
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:39:42 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    "That the Biden Admin casually announced today that the
    Dept of Homeland Security — a domestic security agency —
    has created a ‘disinformation’ board is indescribably dystopian
    and chilling," Independent journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted
    Thursday. "That Democrats think this is good and normal tells
    you all you need to know about them."

    And when the Democrats talk about "disinformation" you know
    this is a hypocritical joke! These are the same people who pushed
    the fake "Russian Collusion Hoax" for years and totally buried
    the whole Hunter Biden laptop story!

    And to make matters even worse just look at the totally biased
    far left wing loon they put in charge of the new Democrat
    Ministry of Truth!

    Jesus wept! For America's sake I pray the Republicans take back
    the House and Senate in the mid-term elections!

    Irish Mike

    Jesus was more of Bernie Bro… in fact I think he was still alive during Sanders’ first term in office.

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sat Apr 30 13:36:43 2022
    Irish Mike <irishranger317@gmail.com> wrote:
    "That the Biden Admin casually announced today that the
    Dept of Homeland Security — a domestic security agency —
    has created a ‘disinformation’ board is indescribably dystopian
    and chilling," Independent journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted
    Thursday. "That Democrats think this is good and normal tells
    you all you need to know about them."

    And when the Democrats talk about "disinformation" you know
    this is a hypocritical joke! These are the same people who pushed
    the fake "Russian Collusion Hoax" for years and totally buried
    the whole Hunter Biden laptop story!

    And to make matters even worse just look at the totally biased
    far left wing loon they put in charge of the new Democrat
    Ministry of Truth!

    Jesus wept! For America's sake I pray the Republicans take back
    the House and Senate in the mid-term elections!

    The purpose of the disinformation board is to counter Russian and immigrant smuggler disinformation that causes masses of people to head for our
    southern border. You’d know that if you read anything other than wingnut propaganda and yes, Russian propaganda.

    Why do you hate defending the border?

    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Sat Apr 30 10:19:25 2022
    On 4/30/2022 9:36 AM, xyzzy wrote:
    Irish Mike <irishranger317@gmail.com> wrote:
    "That the Biden Admin casually announced today that the
    Dept of Homeland Security — a domestic security agency —
    has created a ‘disinformation’ board is indescribably dystopian
    and chilling," Independent journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted
    Thursday. "That Democrats think this is good and normal tells
    you all you need to know about them."

    And when the Democrats talk about "disinformation" you know
    this is a hypocritical joke! These are the same people who pushed
    the fake "Russian Collusion Hoax" for years and totally buried
    the whole Hunter Biden laptop story!

    And to make matters even worse just look at the totally biased
    far left wing loon they put in charge of the new Democrat
    Ministry of Truth!

    Jesus wept! For America's sake I pray the Republicans take back
    the House and Senate in the mid-term elections!

    The purpose of the disinformation board is to counter Russian and immigrant smuggler disinformation that causes masses of people to head for our
    southern border. You’d know that if you read anything other than wingnut propaganda and yes, Russian propaganda.

    Why do you hate defending the border?


    Come election time, I can see those agit-prop actions turning inward.

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  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Sat Apr 30 10:51:15 2022
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 9:36:46 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    Irish Mike <irishra...@gmail.com> wrote:
    "That the Biden Admin casually announced today that the
    Dept of Homeland Security — a domestic security agency —
    has created a ‘disinformation’ board is indescribably dystopian
    and chilling," Independent journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted
    Thursday. "That Democrats think this is good and normal tells
    you all you need to know about them."

    And when the Democrats talk about "disinformation" you know
    this is a hypocritical joke! These are the same people who pushed
    the fake "Russian Collusion Hoax" for years and totally buried
    the whole Hunter Biden laptop story!

    And to make matters even worse just look at the totally biased
    far left wing loon they put in charge of the new Democrat
    Ministry of Truth!

    Jesus wept! For America's sake I pray the Republicans take back
    the House and Senate in the mid-term elections!
    The purpose of the disinformation board is to counter Russian and immigrant smuggler disinformation that causes masses of people to head for our southern border. You’d know that if you read anything other than wingnut propaganda and yes, Russian propaganda.

    Why do you hate defending the border?

    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie
    We have seen too many conservative voices silenced by the tech titans. and biased news coverage by the the old guard media to believe that Biden is only interested in foreign propaganda

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  • From unclejr@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sat Apr 30 13:33:21 2022
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:39:42 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    "That the Biden Admin casually announced today that the
    Dept of Homeland Security — a domestic security agency —
    has created a ‘disinformation’ board is indescribably dystopian
    and chilling," Independent journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted
    Thursday. "That Democrats think this is good and normal tells
    you all you need to know about them."

    And when the Democrats talk about "disinformation" you know
    this is a hypocritical joke! These are the same people who pushed
    the fake "Russian Collusion Hoax" for years and totally buried
    the whole Hunter Biden laptop story!

    And to make matters even worse just look at the totally biased
    far left wing loon they put in charge of the new Democrat
    Ministry of Truth!

    Jesus wept! For America's sake I pray the Republicans take back
    the House and Senate in the mid-term elections!

    Irish Mike

    You're still a moron.

    Hope this helps!

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  • From Corky@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Sat Apr 30 15:18:52 2022
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 8:36:46 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:

    The purpose of the disinformation board is to counter Russian and immigrant smuggler disinformation that causes masses of people to head for our southern border. You’d know that if you read anything other than wingnut propaganda and yes, Russian propaganda.

    Why do you hate defending the border?

    --
    Where did you get this spin and how are the Russians involved in smuggler disinformation?

    'Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said during a congressional hearing Wednesday the department is forming a Disinformation Governance Board to enhance efforts to protect homeland and election security.
    One of the key reasons the Board was established is to maintain the Dept’s commitment to protecting free speech, privacy, civil rights, & civil liberties,” Jankowicz wrote in a tweet announcing her position'

    https://katv.com/news/nation-world/us-creates-board-to-counter-misinformation-as-it-swirls-online-why-is-the-government-battling-misinformation-on-social-media-internet-free-speech-disinformation


    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sat Apr 30 17:02:18 2022
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 5:39:42 AM UTC-7, Irish Mike wrote:

    Jesus wept! For America's sake I pray the Republicans take back
    the House and Senate in the mid-term elections!

    Fuck you, personally.

    If that's the case, we will destroy this country as a personal affront to you and all the other terrorists in the Republican Party.

    You may take that as a personal threat.

    Mike

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to Corky on Sun May 1 02:06:42 2022
    Corky <corkstrew@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 8:36:46 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:

    The purpose of the disinformation board is to counter Russian and immigrant >> smuggler disinformation that causes masses of people to head for our
    southern border. You’d know that if you read anything other than wingnut >> propaganda and yes, Russian propaganda.

    Why do you hate defending the border?

    --
    Where did you get this spin and how are the Russians involved in smuggler disinformation?

    I got that “spin” from the link that TE posted here but apparently did not read. Quoting:

    A newly formed Disinformation Governance Board announced Wednesday will immediately begin focusing on misinformation aimed at migrants, a problem
    that has helped to fuel sudden surges at the U.S. southern border in recent years. Human smugglers often spread misinformation around border policies
    to drum up business.

    Last September, for example, confusion around President Biden’s immigration policies combined with messages shared widely across the Haitian community
    on Meta’s Facebook and WhatsApp platforms led some of the 14,000 migrants
    to the border town of Del Rio, Texas, where they set up camp. Some were ultimately expelled and were flown out of the U.S.

    “We are very concerned that Haitians who are taking the irregular migration path are receiving misinformation that the border is open,” Homeland
    Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said at the time.

    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie

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  • From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Sun May 1 11:35:46 2022
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 9:36:46 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    Irish Mike <irishra...@gmail.com> wrote:
    "That the Biden Admin casually announced today that the
    Dept of Homeland Security — a domestic security agency —
    has created a ‘disinformation’ board is indescribably dystopian
    and chilling," Independent journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted
    Thursday. "That Democrats think this is good and normal tells
    you all you need to know about them."

    And when the Democrats talk about "disinformation" you know
    this is a hypocritical joke! These are the same people who pushed
    the fake "Russian Collusion Hoax" for years and totally buried
    the whole Hunter Biden laptop story!

    And to make matters even worse just look at the totally biased
    far left wing loon they put in charge of the new Democrat
    Ministry of Truth!

    Jesus wept! For America's sake I pray the Republicans take back
    the House and Senate in the mid-term elections!
    The purpose of the disinformation board is to counter Russian and immigrant smuggler disinformation that causes masses of people to head for our southern border.

    ROFLMAO! Are you serious? Illegals, drug smugglers, gang bangers and human traffickers
    are flooding into America by the hundreds of thousands because Biden opened our
    southern border and eliminated the "Remain In Mexico" restrictions Trump put
    in place! More than 100,000 Americans died from drug overdoses last year - most
    of it fentanyl from Mexico.

    This new Democrat Ministry of Truth was created for only one reason - to silence
    Conservatives and Republicans before the mid-term elections. Democrats are in a
    panic because Biden's numbers are in the tank. Only 33% of Americans approve of the job he is doing and 54% think he has a level of mental decline. Not to mention
    the worst inflation in 40 years, sky high gas and food prices, an unprecedented rise
    in crime and Biden's debacle in Afghanistan.

    To add to the left wing's fears, Hunter Biden is finally going face a Grand Jury which is
    investigating his crooked, corrupt $ multi-millipn dollar international business deals.
    And when they find him guilty they will also expose the cash kick-backs Joe Biden took
    for his influence peddling during his years as Obama's VP.

    So the terrified Democrats know that, if the Republicans win the House and Senate in the
    mid-term elections, one of their first priorities will be Joe Biden's impeachment!

    And that is the real reason the Democrats created this phony Ministry of Truth.

    Irish Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sun May 1 13:35:04 2022
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 11:35:48 AM UTC-7, Irish Mike wrote:

    ROFLMAO! Are you serious? Illegals, drug smugglers, gang bangers and human traffickers
    are flooding into America by the hundreds of thousands because Biden opened our
    southern border and eliminated the "Remain In Mexico" restrictions Trump put in place! More than 100,000 Americans died from drug overdoses last year - most
    of it fentanyl from Mexico.

    Then why are you not sending militias to the borders, shoot to kill under 2A? You're cowards. You're pussies.

    Why are you not doing the same to the American cities? Ditto.

    When are you going to realize that the way we are taught about the Constitution, the Constitution is a terrorist's document and largely, hence, void as taught?

    (One example: Freedom of speech. Franklin says it implies liberty, but that implies freedom of ACTION. You CAN be sanctioned strictly for your speech under any number of present laws -- laws which are needed on the books. There is no freedom of
    speech -- let's just stop with the canard and realize you can be sanctioned for speech in this country, but, like most other laws, it is used very capriciously and often only to the benefit of the government or those few they choose to protect through
    economic importance or social convenience.)

    This new Democrat Ministry of Truth was created for only one reason - to silence
    Conservatives and Republicans before the mid-term elections. Democrats are in a

    Before you silence us afterward.

    panic because Biden's numbers are in the tank. Only 33% of Americans approve of the job he is doing and 54% think he has a level of mental decline. Not to mention
    the worst inflation in 40 years, sky high gas and food prices, an unprecedented rise
    in crime and Biden's debacle in Afghanistan.

    I hope he destroys the country if you are correct in how this goes down.

    And part of it is the concept of your stupidity, writ large HERE:

    So the terrified Democrats know that, if the Republicans win the House and Senate in the
    mid-term elections, one of their first priorities will be Joe Biden's impeachment!

    Impeachment. La dee dah. We impeached the last motherfucker TWICE.

    You can't get the 67 votes in the Senate -- even if you got Sinema and Manchin's seats (either them directly or a R successor), your ceiling on a vote after a trial in the Senate is probably about 57-59 votes.

    Your priority, especially given your stands here, cannot be simply Biden's impeachment. That has been reduced, bluntly, to a function of censure in this country -- simply because there is no way that the Senate will ever to a sufficient majority to
    remove even a President deserving of the sanction, which see the fat orange motherfucker you've been masturbating to for the last seven years.

    Your FIRST priority -- not "one of" and nothing short of this -- MUST be Biden AND Harris' REMOVAL. And there's only three ways you can get it done, post January 3rd:

    1) You do get the 67 votes in the Senate to remove. Which is not going to happen.

    (Though, as a parenthetical concept, if there ever should be a time that one party holds the Presidency and the other has the majority in the House and 2/3 in the Senate, then removal becomes automatic and the House selects the new President through the
    election of the Speaker.)

    2) Once you elect a Republican Speaker of the House, two bullets.

    or 3) ......

    -------------

    A BINDING RESOLUTION OF THE ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS, JANUARY 3RD, 2023:

    RESOLVED, we cannot wait 2 1/2 years, especially with a lame duck Biden or Harris, to save this country.

    RESOLVED, we will not get the 67 votes to remove them through Constitutional impeachment in the Senate.

    (My note: With Manchin and Sinema's seats -- I'd put the Republican ceiling, at best for them, about ten short.)

    RESOLVED, the state of Pennsylvania (in which the Leavitt opinion in the state courts requires the physical presence of the voter, invalidating a 2019 no-excuse mail-in ballot situation in the state) illegally conducted their 2020 election in
    controvertion to the Constitution of the state.

    RESOLVED, the state of Georgia has attempted to invalidate over 200,000 invalid voters from the rolls, including over 20% of the voters of Sparta, GA.

    (My note: The ACLU and others are challenging this, and Stacey Abrams calls it nothing short of Jim Crow 2.0. That said, in this context, it would actually still stand to reason to have the Republicans include it, especially in a situation of a
    November, 2022 rout victory in Congress.)

    RESOLVED: The reputed margin of victory for Joe Biden in the state of Georgia was less than 12,000 votes.

    RESOLVED: The Republican Party, with this information in mind, revokes and repudiates their consent of the Electoral College votes in those states, with binding and immediate effect.

    (My note: This, alone, would reduce Joe Biden's count to the absolute minimum necessary, 270 votes, in the EC. Finding one more Electoral College vote "invalid" would allow the Republicans to proceed with the full strategy.)

    RESOLVED: [I got stuck here, but I figure, given the belief system of the Republicans, there probably is at least a plausible _case_ to find one more such vote. PA and GA are far easier, but that only gets you to 270.]

    (My note: Once you do:)

    RESOLVED: The 118th Congress revokes the consent of the previous body as to Joe Biden as sitting President of the United States of America and Kamala Harris as Vice-President of the United States of America, and activates Constitutional Succession to
    succeed the 118th Congress' Speaker of the House to the Presidency with immediate and binding effect.

    RESOLVED: This does not require impeachment. Joe Biden was never the legal President to begin with, because of the illegal 2019 PA statutes overturned in the Leavitt opinion, the over 200,000 illegal voters in Georgia, and [whatever gets you the last
    EC vote].

    RESOLVED: The Speaker of the House is immediately, upon ratification by both Houses of this Resolution, to be sworn in as the legal and Constitutional President of the United States, after which both bodies will then adjourn _sine die_ to allow said
    President to enforce this transfer of power by whatever means the Commander in Chief will require.

    (My note: In short, they leave until the changeover is allowed -- shutting off the monetary spigot to the country -- and martial law is declared under their President to enforce the change.)

    -------------------

    Basically, the new Congress declares Biden never was legally President, under the unconstitutionality of the Pennsylvania 2020 election (removing their EC votes), the Georgia voter problems far exceeding the margin of victory (voiding theirs and getting
    Biden down to exactly 270), and then one or more further states also similarly voided -- but I would need to research specifically which ones.

    This doesn't even require the Q-Anon discussions that Kamala Harris was never eligible to begin with (which would, factually, be an absolute disqualifier to Biden's presidency on a prima facie basis -- no person can be VP who isn't eligible for the
    Presidency).

    It also would not require a vote of impeachment -- he's not President!

    At that point, you dare him to sue into a 6-3 Court (which is one of the reasons I find it completely insane that Turtle actually allowed the seating of ANY liberal justice, not only on the grounds that it makes this process more difficult, but that,
    factually, the appointment is also illegal, because Biden is not legally President because of the elections at the state level being unconstitutional in sufficient number).

    At that point, they shut off all appropriations bills and other business until the new President is allowed and respected, and that the new Republican President use whatever means necessary to enforce the changeover.

    In short, if the US Supreme Court forces Biden to finish out the two years, then the 118th Congress does not further meet and the money shuts off at the Federal level.

    If the decision is somehow punted, then you have a military crisis and the "winner" is then determined by whose orders the military will follow -- remembering that, if Biden was never President, then HIS orders are the ones that are illegal. You would
    literally have a military rule at that point.

    Mike

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Sun May 1 18:32:28 2022
    On 5/1/2022 4:35 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 11:35:48 AM UTC-7, Irish Mike wrote:

    ROFLMAO! Are you serious? Illegals, drug smugglers, gang bangers and human traffickers
    are flooding into America by the hundreds of thousands because Biden opened our
    southern border and eliminated the "Remain In Mexico" restrictions Trump put >> in place! More than 100,000 Americans died from drug overdoses last year - most
    of it fentanyl from Mexico.

    Then why are you not sending militias to the borders, shoot to kill under 2A? You're cowards. You're pussies.

    Why are you not doing the same to the American cities? Ditto.

    When are you going to realize that the way we are taught about the Constitution, the Constitution is a terrorist's document and largely, hence, void as taught?

    (One example: Freedom of speech. Franklin says it implies liberty, but that implies freedom of ACTION. You CAN be sanctioned strictly for your speech under any number of present laws -- laws which are needed on the books. There is no freedom of
    speech -- let's just stop with the canard and realize you can be sanctioned for speech in this country, but, like most other laws, it is used very capriciously and often only to the benefit of the government or those few they choose to protect through
    economic importance or social convenience.)

    This new Democrat Ministry of Truth was created for only one reason - to silence
    Conservatives and Republicans before the mid-term elections. Democrats are in a

    Before you silence us afterward.

    panic because Biden's numbers are in the tank. Only 33% of Americans approve >> of the job he is doing and 54% think he has a level of mental decline. Not to mention
    the worst inflation in 40 years, sky high gas and food prices, an unprecedented rise
    in crime and Biden's debacle in Afghanistan.

    I hope he destroys the country if you are correct in how this goes down.

    And part of it is the concept of your stupidity, writ large HERE:

    So the terrified Democrats know that, if the Republicans win the House and Senate in the
    mid-term elections, one of their first priorities will be Joe Biden's impeachment!

    Impeachment. La dee dah. We impeached the last motherfucker TWICE.

    You can't get the 67 votes in the Senate -- even if you got Sinema and Manchin's seats (either them directly or a R successor), your ceiling on a vote after a trial in the Senate is probably about 57-59 votes.

    Your priority, especially given your stands here, cannot be simply Biden's impeachment. That has been reduced, bluntly, to a function of censure in this country -- simply because there is no way that the Senate will ever to a sufficient majority to
    remove even a President deserving of the sanction, which see the fat orange motherfucker you've been masturbating to for the last seven years.

    Your FIRST priority -- not "one of" and nothing short of this -- MUST be Biden AND Harris' REMOVAL. And there's only three ways you can get it done, post January 3rd:

    1) You do get the 67 votes in the Senate to remove. Which is not going to happen.

    (Though, as a parenthetical concept, if there ever should be a time that one party holds the Presidency and the other has the majority in the House and 2/3 in the Senate, then removal becomes automatic and the House selects the new President through
    the election of the Speaker.)

    2) Once you elect a Republican Speaker of the House, two bullets.

    or 3) ......

    -------------

    A BINDING RESOLUTION OF THE ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS, JANUARY 3RD, 2023:

    RESOLVED, we cannot wait 2 1/2 years, especially with a lame duck Biden or Harris, to save this country.

    RESOLVED, we will not get the 67 votes to remove them through Constitutional impeachment in the Senate.

    (My note: With Manchin and Sinema's seats -- I'd put the Republican ceiling, at best for them, about ten short.)

    RESOLVED, the state of Pennsylvania (in which the Leavitt opinion in the state courts requires the physical presence of the voter, invalidating a 2019 no-excuse mail-in ballot situation in the state) illegally conducted their 2020 election in
    controvertion to the Constitution of the state.

    RESOLVED, the state of Georgia has attempted to invalidate over 200,000 invalid voters from the rolls, including over 20% of the voters of Sparta, GA.

    (My note: The ACLU and others are challenging this, and Stacey Abrams calls it nothing short of Jim Crow 2.0. That said, in this context, it would actually still stand to reason to have the Republicans include it, especially in a situation of a
    November, 2022 rout victory in Congress.)

    RESOLVED: The reputed margin of victory for Joe Biden in the state of Georgia was less than 12,000 votes.

    RESOLVED: The Republican Party, with this information in mind, revokes and repudiates their consent of the Electoral College votes in those states, with binding and immediate effect.

    (My note: This, alone, would reduce Joe Biden's count to the absolute minimum necessary, 270 votes, in the EC. Finding one more Electoral College vote "invalid" would allow the Republicans to proceed with the full strategy.)

    RESOLVED: [I got stuck here, but I figure, given the belief system of the Republicans, there probably is at least a plausible _case_ to find one more such vote. PA and GA are far easier, but that only gets you to 270.]

    (My note: Once you do:)

    RESOLVED: The 118th Congress revokes the consent of the previous body as to Joe Biden as sitting President of the United States of America and Kamala Harris as Vice-President of the United States of America, and activates Constitutional Succession to
    succeed the 118th Congress' Speaker of the House to the Presidency with immediate and binding effect.

    RESOLVED: This does not require impeachment. Joe Biden was never the legal President to begin with, because of the illegal 2019 PA statutes overturned in the Leavitt opinion, the over 200,000 illegal voters in Georgia, and [whatever gets you the last
    EC vote].

    RESOLVED: The Speaker of the House is immediately, upon ratification by both Houses of this Resolution, to be sworn in as the legal and Constitutional President of the United States, after which both bodies will then adjourn _sine die_ to allow said
    President to enforce this transfer of power by whatever means the Commander in Chief will require.

    (My note: In short, they leave until the changeover is allowed -- shutting off the monetary spigot to the country -- and martial law is declared under their President to enforce the change.)

    -------------------

    Basically, the new Congress declares Biden never was legally President, under the unconstitutionality of the Pennsylvania 2020 election (removing their EC votes), the Georgia voter problems far exceeding the margin of victory (voiding theirs and
    getting Biden down to exactly 270), and then one or more further states also similarly voided -- but I would need to research specifically which ones.

    This doesn't even require the Q-Anon discussions that Kamala Harris was never eligible to begin with (which would, factually, be an absolute disqualifier to Biden's presidency on a prima facie basis -- no person can be VP who isn't eligible for the
    Presidency).

    It also would not require a vote of impeachment -- he's not President!

    At that point, you dare him to sue into a 6-3 Court (which is one of the reasons I find it completely insane that Turtle actually allowed the seating of ANY liberal justice, not only on the grounds that it makes this process more difficult, but that,
    factually, the appointment is also illegal, because Biden is not legally President because of the elections at the state level being unconstitutional in sufficient number).

    At that point, they shut off all appropriations bills and other business until the new President is allowed and respected, and that the new Republican President use whatever means necessary to enforce the changeover.

    In short, if the US Supreme Court forces Biden to finish out the two years, then the 118th Congress does not further meet and the money shuts off at the Federal level.

    If the decision is somehow punted, then you have a military crisis and the "winner" is then determined by whose orders the military will follow -- remembering that, if Biden was never President, then HIS orders are the ones that are illegal. You would
    literally have a military rule at that point.

    Mike

    Trying to prove your psychopathology?

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  • From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Sun May 1 16:35:57 2022
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:35:06 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 11:35:48 AM UTC-7, Irish Mike wrote:

    ROFLMAO! Are you serious? Illegals, drug smugglers, gang bangers and human traffickers
    are flooding into America by the hundreds of thousands because Biden opened our
    southern border and eliminated the "Remain In Mexico" restrictions Trump put
    in place! More than 100,000 Americans died from drug overdoses last year - most
    of it fentanyl from Mexico.

    Then why are you not sending militias to the borders, shoot to kill under 2A?

    Why don't you ask Joe Biden? He is our Commander in Chief!

    Irish Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Mon May 2 10:05:42 2022
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 3:32:32 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

    Trying to prove your psychopathology?

    That and serial rape would probably make me qualified for high-level employment in this country.

    Hell, given what we've done in my adulthood, it might well make me President!!

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Mon May 2 10:06:38 2022
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:35:59 PM UTC-7, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:35:06 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 11:35:48 AM UTC-7, Irish Mike wrote:

    ROFLMAO! Are you serious? Illegals, drug smugglers, gang bangers and human traffickers
    are flooding into America by the hundreds of thousands because Biden opened our
    southern border and eliminated the "Remain In Mexico" restrictions Trump put
    in place! More than 100,000 Americans died from drug overdoses last year - most
    of it fentanyl from Mexico.

    Then why are you not sending militias to the borders, shoot to kill under 2A?
    Why don't you ask Joe Biden? He is our Commander in Chief!

    Nice try. When you understand how much of a terrorist's document how we've been taught the Constitution is, you'll understand a large part of it's invalidity.

    I know this is from the Declaration, but "When in the course of human events..."

    Mike

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  • From TE@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Sat May 7 16:50:33 2022
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 10:06:45 PM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    ad. Quoting:

    A newly formed Disinformation Governance Board announced Wednesday will immediately begin focusing on misinformation aimed at migrants, a problem that has helped to fuel sudden surges at the U.S. southern border in recent years. Human smugglers often spread misinformation around border policies
    to drum up business.

    Last September, for example, confusion around President Biden’s immigration
    policies combined with messages shared widely across the Haitian community on Meta’s Facebook and WhatsApp platforms led some of the 14,000 migrants to the border town of Del Rio, Texas, where they set up camp. Some were ultimately expelled and were flown out of the U.S.

    “We are very concerned that Haitians who are taking the irregular migration
    path are receiving misinformation that the border is open,” Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said at the time.

    If I told you, 5 years ago, that you'd be defending a government agency that
    is dedicated to internet censorship headed by a woman who was a disseminator of misinformation you'd call me a loon. Or loonier.

    You sound like Robert Reich and NYTs and WaPo explaining how censorship
    is actually necessary to stop tyranny.

    The idea that the Biden administration gives a fuck about stopping illegal immigration and has created a Ministry Of Truth to combat this is laughable.
    He could end it in a week and at a much lower cost if he cared to.

    -TE

    “Secrecy is the keystone to all tyranny. Not force, but secrecy and censorship. When any government or church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, “This you may not read, this you must not know,” the end result is tyranny and
    oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man who has been hoodwinked in this fashion; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, whose mind is free. No, not the rack nor the atomic bomb, not
    anything. You can’t conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.” ― Robert A Heinlein

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  • From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 8 05:55:03 2022
    On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 7:50:35 PM UTC-4, TE wrote:
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 10:06:45 PM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    ad. Quoting:

    A newly formed Disinformation Governance Board announced Wednesday will immediately begin focusing on misinformation aimed at migrants, a problem that has helped to fuel sudden surges at the U.S. southern border in recent
    years. Human smugglers often spread misinformation around border policies to drum up business.

    Last September, for example, confusion around President Biden’s immigration
    policies combined with messages shared widely across the Haitian community on Meta’s Facebook and WhatsApp platforms led some of the 14,000 migrants
    to the border town of Del Rio, Texas, where they set up camp. Some were ultimately expelled and were flown out of the U.S.

    “We are very concerned that Haitians who are taking the irregular migration
    path are receiving misinformation that the border is open,” Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said at the time.
    If I told you, 5 years ago, that you'd be defending a government agency that is dedicated to internet censorship headed by a woman who was a disseminator of misinformation you'd call me a loon. Or loonier.

    You sound like Robert Reich and NYTs and WaPo explaining how censorship
    is actually necessary to stop tyranny.

    The idea that the Biden administration gives a fuck about stopping illegal immigration and has created a Ministry Of Truth to combat this is laughable. He could end it in a week and at a much lower cost if he cared to.

    -TE

    If you want a laugh, think about this. What would Biden and the left wing Democrats
    be doing if they thought all those hundreds of thousands of illegals they are letting flood across our open Southern border were going to vote Republican? Hell, they'd be
    lined up shoulder-to-shoulder at the border with pitch forks and flame throwers trying
    to kill any illegal that even put his toe across the line!

    Irish Mike

    Any win for Democrats is a loss for America

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 8 12:17:14 2022
    On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 4:50:35 PM UTC-7, TE wrote:

    If I told you, 5 years ago, that you'd be defending a government agency that is dedicated to internet censorship headed by a woman who was a disseminator of misinformation you'd call me a loon. Or loonier.

    You sound like Robert Reich and NYTs and WaPo explaining how censorship
    is actually necessary to stop tyranny.

    The idea that the Biden administration gives a fuck about stopping illegal immigration and has created a Ministry Of Truth to combat this is laughable. He could end it in a week and at a much lower cost if he cared to.

    If you actually believed in the 2nd Amendment and acted on it in numbers, you'd probably have this country by now.

    Mike (Now, your necessary goal would be the outright extermination of the leftward 30-60% of the population, but there you go...)

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  • From dragon fox@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Mon May 9 11:19:04 2022
    On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 3:17:16 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 4:50:35 PM UTC-7, TE wrote:

    If I told you, 5 years ago, that you'd be defending a government agency that
    is dedicated to internet censorship headed by a woman who was a disseminator
    of misinformation you'd call me a loon. Or loonier.

    You sound like Robert Reich and NYTs and WaPo explaining how censorship
    is actually necessary to stop tyranny.

    The idea that the Biden administration gives a fuck about stopping illegal immigration and has created a Ministry Of Truth to combat this is laughable.
    He could end it in a week and at a much lower cost if he cared to.
    If you actually believed in the 2nd Amendment and acted on it in numbers, you'd probably have this country by now.

    Mike (Now, your necessary goal would be the outright extermination of the leftward 30-60% of the population, but there you go...)

    I believe in the 2nd wholeheartedly. I also believe that laws should be obeyed that govern the ownership and legal use of firearms.

    Without doubt I also believe you are one of the dumbest sob's walking upright.

    The reason you're still upright most of all is because 99.9% of people who own guns obey the laws. Even with the "numbers" and an unbreakable "belief in the 2nd" you are safe from retribution for being a complete moron regardless of what you believe.

    You want violence to begin then start it yourself. Or you can go on being the Johnny Tyler type.


    F0X

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to dragon fox on Mon May 9 12:27:30 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:19:06 AM UTC-7, dragon fox wrote:

    You want violence to begin then start it yourself. Or you can go on being the Johnny Tyler type.

    I want it. YOU NEED IT.

    You need the leftward 30% of this country gone NOW and 60% of current US population over the next generation as you refill it with the lack of abortion.

    Keep up -- but you're a Republican, so I can bet you're that stupid.

    Mike (PS: Go ahead and rout us in the midterms and you may well get your wish! That is, unless there's someone smart enough in your party to get my message. I'll be shot this summer if there is.)

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