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  • Upper mid-major NCAA tournament bids

    From JGibson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 11 06:40:56 2022
    Looks like San Francisco is going to join Gonzaga and St. Mary's in the NCAA field, giving the WCC 3 teams. And looks like the MWC has at least three - Boise State, Colorado State, and San Diego State, with Wyoming currently on the inside on
    bracketmatrix but on the watch for crazy bid-stealers. Meanwhile, the once multi-bid MVC got raided with Wichita State and Creighton now in more high profile conferences and it's going to be stuck with its singular bid for Loyola.

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to JGibson on Fri Mar 11 06:53:52 2022
    On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 9:40:59 AM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
    Looks like San Francisco is going to join Gonzaga and St. Mary's in the NCAA field, giving the WCC 3 teams. And looks like the MWC has at least three - Boise State, Colorado State, and San Diego State, with Wyoming currently on the inside on
    bracketmatrix but on the watch for crazy bid-stealers. Meanwhile, the once multi-bid MVC got raided with Wichita State and Creighton now in more high profile conferences and it's going to be stuck with its singular bid for Loyola.

    I see Jerry Palm has BYU in, which would give the WCC 4. But on bracketmatrix.com, BYU is clearly out.

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 11 08:10:00 2022
    I see Jerry Palm has BYU in, which would give the WCC 4. But on bracketmatrix.com, BYU is clearly out.

    ESPN currently has BYU as a 2 seed in the NIT, behind Dayton, Oklahoma, SMU, and Virginia Tech.

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  • From Johnny RSFCootball@21:1/5 to JGibson on Fri Mar 11 08:53:31 2022
    On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:40:59 AM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:
    Looks like San Francisco is going to join Gonzaga and St. Mary's in the NCAA field, giving the WCC 3 teams. And looks like the MWC has at least three - Boise State, Colorado State, and San Diego State, with Wyoming currently on the inside on
    bracketmatrix but on the watch for crazy bid-stealers. Meanwhile, the once multi-bid MVC got raided with Wichita State and Creighton now in more high profile conferences and it's going to be stuck with its singular bid for Loyola.

    I’m not sure how the AAC is classified, but I could see them getting three bids if SMU beats Memphis in the semis, but only one bid if they both lose today. Obviously two bids is a possibility too.

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to Johnny RSFCootball on Fri Mar 11 11:00:36 2022
    On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 11:53:33 AM UTC-5, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
    On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:40:59 AM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:
    Looks like San Francisco is going to join Gonzaga and St. Mary's in the NCAA field, giving the WCC 3 teams. And looks like the MWC has at least three - Boise State, Colorado State, and San Diego State, with Wyoming currently on the inside on
    bracketmatrix but on the watch for crazy bid-stealers. Meanwhile, the once multi-bid MVC got raided with Wichita State and Creighton now in more high profile conferences and it's going to be stuck with its singular bid for Loyola.
    I’m not sure how the AAC is classified, but I could see them getting three bids if SMU beats Memphis in the semis, but only one bid if they both lose today. Obviously two bids is a possibility too.

    Personally, I classify the AAC as one of the last high majors. MWC - I used to classify as a major but loss of BYU and Utah put a damper on that. A10 is debatable.

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 11 10:44:43 2022
    I’m not sure how the AAC is classified
    The only college basketball "classifications" that seem to have any commonly agreed definitions are the Power 5 and the HBCUs.

    I keep hearing the phrase "mid-major," but have never heard the phrase "low major." And just which conferences are the basketball "majors," besides the Power 5?

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Fri Mar 11 11:13:04 2022
    On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 1:44:45 PM UTC-5, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
    I’m not sure how the AAC is classified
    The only college basketball "classifications" that seem to have any commonly agreed definitions are the Power 5 and the HBCUs.

    I keep hearing the phrase "mid-major," but have never heard the phrase "low major." And just which conferences are the basketball "majors," besides the Power 5?

    Since they aren't official terms, there's no real definition. But I've come to this definition:

    High major - multiple bids almost every year to the NCAA tournament. Regular season champ will not sweat out selection Sunday if they lose in conference tournament (outside of the odd occasion like Washington in the Pac-12 that on year).
    Mid-major - more often that not gets a 2nd and sometimes 3rd bid to the tournament. Regular season champ might sweat out selection Sunday but usually makes the tournament.
    Low-major - Only one bid.

    Minor - not division 1.

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to JGibson on Fri Mar 11 11:23:31 2022
    On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 2:20:21 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
    On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 1:44:45 PM UTC-5, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
    I’m not sure how the AAC is classified
    The only college basketball "classifications" that seem to have any commonly agreed definitions are the Power 5 and the HBCUs.

    I keep hearing the phrase "mid-major," but have never heard the phrase "low major." And just which conferences are the basketball "majors," besides the Power 5?
    Here's a discussion from 2004 about classification of the A-10:

    https://www.si.com/more-sports/2008/01/24/a10-midmajor

    Sorry, not 2004. 2008. This is the article from 2004, which even includes the term "low major':
    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna6648799

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Fri Mar 11 11:20:18 2022
    On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 1:44:45 PM UTC-5, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
    I’m not sure how the AAC is classified
    The only college basketball "classifications" that seem to have any commonly agreed definitions are the Power 5 and the HBCUs.

    I keep hearing the phrase "mid-major," but have never heard the phrase "low major." And just which conferences are the basketball "majors," besides the Power 5?

    Here's a discussion from 2004 about classification of the A-10:

    https://www.si.com/more-sports/2008/01/24/a10-midmajor

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to JGibson on Fri Mar 11 20:23:14 2022
    JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 1:44:45 PM UTC-5, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
    I’m not sure how the AAC is classified
    The only college basketball "classifications" that seem to have any
    commonly agreed definitions are the Power 5 and the HBCUs.

    I keep hearing the phrase "mid-major," but have never heard the phrase
    "low major." And just which conferences are the basketball "majors," besides the Power 5?

    Since they aren't official terms, there's no real definition. But I've
    come to this definition:

    High major - multiple bids almost every year to the NCAA tournament.
    Regular season champ will not sweat out selection Sunday if they lose in conference tournament (outside of the odd occasion like Washington in the Pac-12 that on year).

    I’d even add that the regular season champ doesn’t have to sweat their seeding either if they lose in the conference tourney. In fact it’s to
    their advantage to early exit their conference tourney because they get
    more rest for the NCAAs. I’ve seen both Duke and UNC win it all after early exits in the ACC tourney. OTOH, I’ve seen gassed ACC champions early exit
    the NCAAs.


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  • From Johnny RSFCootball@21:1/5 to JGibson on Fri Mar 11 15:11:17 2022
    On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 1:13:07 PM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:
    On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 1:44:45 PM UTC-5, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
    I’m not sure how the AAC is classified
    The only college basketball "classifications" that seem to have any commonly agreed definitions are the Power 5 and the HBCUs.

    I keep hearing the phrase "mid-major," but have never heard the phrase "low major." And just which conferences are the basketball "majors," besides the Power 5?
    Since they aren't official terms, there's no real definition. But I've come to this definition:

    High major - multiple bids almost every year to the NCAA tournament. Regular season champ will not sweat out selection Sunday if they lose in conference tournament (outside of the odd occasion like Washington in the Pac-12 that on year).
    Mid-major - more often that not gets a 2nd and sometimes 3rd bid to the tournament. Regular season champ might sweat out selection Sunday but usually makes the tournament.
    Low-major - Only one bid.

    Minor - not division 1.

    On espn’s bubble watch there are separate sections for ACC, Big 12, Big East, Big Ten, PAC 12, SEC, American, and Others (in that order).

    So I guess they consider the AAC to be major enough to have they’re own section but not major enough to be put into its place in alphabetical order.

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