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  • Republicans: Gas Prices are too high!

    From xyzzy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 8 16:35:21 2022
    Also Republicans: We need to cut off imports of Russian oil.


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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 8 18:05:14 2022
    On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Also Republicans: We need to cut off imports of Russian oil.

    Actually, the polls show Dems are more likely to favor that. Republicans
    are about 62-30, Dems 82-12. Indies somewhere in between....

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Tue Mar 8 18:24:49 2022
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Also Republicans: We need to cut off imports of Russian oil.

    Actually, the polls show Dems are more likely to favor that. Republicans
    are about 62-30, Dems 82-12. Indies somewhere in between....

    I was talking about the politicians. They were hammering Biden for his sanctions being “too weak”.

    The problem is that we have a deficit of leadership on both sides here. The correct answer IMO is: we’re going to cut off Russian energy and that will cause pain for us, sorry about that but it’s nowhere near as bad as what
    the Ukrainians are going through and this is part of our sacrifice for the cause of democracy and western values.

    But no modern politician would ever say that to the voters. I about gagged
    when Biden said in the SOTU that we would sanction Russia but not in a way
    that raise our gas prices. Those 60M bbl from the strategic petroleum
    reserve were wasted IMO. Dumn token “don’t blame me for higher gas prices”
    gesture.

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 8 22:36:08 2022
    On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Also Republicans: We need to cut off imports of Russian oil.

    Actually, the polls show Dems are more likely to favor that. Republicans
    are about 62-30, Dems 82-12. Indies somewhere in between....

    I was talking about the politicians. They were hammering Biden for his sanctions being “too weak”.

    The problem is that we have a deficit of leadership on both sides here. The correct answer IMO is: we’re going to cut off Russian energy and that will cause pain for us, sorry about that but it’s nowhere near as bad as what the Ukrainians are going through and this is part of our sacrifice for the cause of democracy and western values.

    I'd have preferred everyone listened to me* when I said pursuing
    "green energy" would just result in sorrow. Of course it was dead
    stupid to think differently; we've watched how the energiewende has
    doubled electricity prices in several countries.

    Now we'll watch the backlash, and to be honest it might be a good
    thing. If the Brits fast-track the new Rolls-Royce modular reactor and
    the French and some other nuclear projects come to fruition, it will
    not have been all in vain.


    But no modern politician would ever say that to the voters. I about gagged when Biden said in the SOTU that we would sanction Russia but not in a way that raise our gas prices. Those 60M bbl from the strategic petroleum
    reserve were wasted IMO. Dumn token “don’t blame me for higher gas prices”
    gesture.


    Yup.


    * And George Monbiot, James Hanson, Michael Shellenberger, Steven Pinker,
    and any of a zillion people on the right.

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    Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed. -- Francis Bacon

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  • From TE@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 8 16:16:44 2022
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 11:35:25 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Also Republicans: We need to cut off imports of Russian oil.

    The Democrat's strategy has been, or resulted in:

    Enriching Putin
    Increasing the price of energy in the US
    Requesting (different) despots to pump more oil
    Making Europe more dependent on Russian energy
    Increasing the chances of "blood for oil" in the ME.
    Letting Putin know 'a small incursion' into Ukraine was cool

    The GOP, as far as I can see, favored policies that would have made these outcomes impossible, or, at the very, least less likely. That's the turd sandwich
    the Biden admin has served-up. I don't see how he's made the correct decision on any of these issues, do what you want to polish this turd, but it's been a disaster.

    -TE

    Yet most Americans are arguing not over the sheer chaos and disasters of
    the Biden Administration, but rather how could such sheer pre-civilizational calamity occur in modern America?

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