• Re: keystone pipeline cancellation

    From floaterjr@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Mon Mar 7 01:10:46 2022
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.

    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production. As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.

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  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Mon Mar 7 01:25:57 2022
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.

    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a dangerous and volatile place.



    Robert Gates said it best when he told Congress Joe Biden has not been right on foreign policy for 30 years.

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Mon Mar 7 09:49:28 2022
    floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.


    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21



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  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Mon Mar 7 02:34:16 2022
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 5:18:49 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.


    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21



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    We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are. Joe Biden can be and often is an idiot.
    Oh yea, Here's where we are:

    https://twitter.com/brithume/status/1500609585450729473?cxt=HBwWgoCy9fSdntMpAAAA&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email

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  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Mar 7 02:18:46 2022
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.


    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production. As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21



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    We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are. Joe Biden can be and often is an idiot.

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Mon Mar 7 10:58:54 2022
    floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >>>> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production. >>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s!



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    I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
    liberal personality.  Altie
    We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are.

    No we weren’t. US net petroleum imports have never been zero or negative. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m

    “Energy independent” is a rhetorical flourish that means nothing in a global market anyway. Even if we never imported a single barrel we would
    still pay market prices for oil and gas.

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Mar 7 11:04:12 2022
    xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production. >>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign >>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s!



    --
    I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
    liberal personality.  Altie
    We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are.

    No we weren’t. US net petroleum imports have never been zero or negative. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m

    I misread the graph posting in the wee hours and yes in recent years it has bounced around the zero line. But my point below still stands.

    “Energy independent” is a rhetorical flourish that means nothing in a global market anyway. Even if we never imported a single barrel we would still pay market prices for oil and gas.




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  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Mar 7 03:05:22 2022
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 6:04:16 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign >>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s!



    --
    I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, >>> liberal personality. Altie
    We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are.

    No we weren’t. US net petroleum imports have never been zero or negative.
    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m
    I misread the graph posting in the wee hours and yes in recent years it has bounced around the zero line. But my point below still stands.
    “Energy independent” is a rhetorical flourish that means nothing in a global market anyway. Even if we never imported a single barrel we would still pay market prices for oil and gas.




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    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie
    Yes, we were

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_energy_independence#:~:text=In%20November%202019%2C%20the%20United,was%20the%20world's%20largest%20producer.

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  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Mon Mar 7 03:09:35 2022
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 6:05:24 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 6:04:16 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s!



    --
    I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, >>> liberal personality. Altie
    We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are.

    No we weren’t. US net petroleum imports have never been zero or negative.
    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m
    I misread the graph posting in the wee hours and yes in recent years it has
    bounced around the zero line. But my point below still stands.
    “Energy independent” is a rhetorical flourish that means nothing in a
    global market anyway. Even if we never imported a single barrel we would still pay market prices for oil and gas.




    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie
    Yes, we were

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_energy_independence#:~:text=In%20November%202019%2C%20the%20United,was%20the%20world's%20largest%20producer.
    to quote: "In November 2019, the United States became a net exporter of all oil products, including both refined petroleum products and crude oil.[5] By 2021 the US was the world's largest producer.[6]"

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Mar 7 12:04:04 2022
    On 2022-03-07, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.


    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21


    Well, if Obama (and Biden) had approved it back when it would be
    operating by now. Of course Warren Buffett and his railroad would have
    been very displeased...

    As far as number of leases, all leases are not created equal.

    You really need a new conduit, Jennifer Rubin is a laughingstock.

    --
    Find the grain of truth in criticism, chew it, and swallow
    it. -- anonymous

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Mar 7 12:05:17 2022
    On 2022-03-07, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production. >>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign >>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s!



    --
    I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
    liberal personality.  Altie
    We were energy independent before Biden got in office. Now look where we are.

    No we weren’t. US net petroleum imports have never been zero or negative. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m

    Your own chart shows they were net negative in 2020.


    “Energy independent” is a rhetorical flourish that means nothing in a global market anyway. Even if we never imported a single barrel we would still pay market prices for oil and gas.



    --
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    it. -- anonymous

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  • From Thomas Enright@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Mar 7 11:53:45 2022
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.


    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production. As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to Thomas Enright on Tue Mar 8 02:17:25 2022
    Thomas Enright <tomoenright@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >>>> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production. >>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE


    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
    holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things 10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
    call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re producing.”




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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 8 04:27:54 2022
    On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoenright@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production. >>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign >>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE


    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
    call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re producing.”

    That all is debatable, but not approving the Keystone pipeline and other exploration and drilling options makes the market tighter and enables that
    type of behavior.

    Canada just stated that they would be able to supply the shortfall if the Keystone Pipeline was built. Without it, their incentive to invest in
    the Athabasca is greatly reduced.

    You can pretend that squeezing oil and gas and coal in support of "green energy" didn't cause our current problems, but there is no doubt that it
    was one of the main factors.

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    Life isn't fair, but it's good. -- Regina Brett

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  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 8 01:37:56 2022
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >>>> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign >>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE

    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
    call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re producing.”
    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie
    It's simple supply and demand. Less supply and the price goes up per barrel. Joe Biden and family have made millions from these russian a holes. Maybe he not a fool just has too much skin in the game which is clouding his strategic thinking and
    decision making https://thedrilldown.com/newsroom/hunter-biden-invited-russian-oligarchs-to-dinner/

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Tue Mar 8 12:47:26 2022
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoenright@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >>>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >>>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >>>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production. >>>>> As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign >>>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE


    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
    holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an >> analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
    community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
    proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
    call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and >> more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
    producing.”

    That all is debatable, but not approving the Keystone pipeline and other exploration and drilling options makes the market tighter and enables that type of behavior.

    Canada just stated that they would be able to supply the shortfall if the Keystone Pipeline was built. Without it, their incentive to invest in
    the Athabasca is greatly reduced.

    You can pretend that squeezing oil and gas and coal in support of "green energy" didn't cause our current problems, but there is no doubt that it
    was one of the main factors.


    In Canada gas is over $1/gal more than here, yet they would divert their
    supply to us to keep our (lower) prices down? OK. If Keystone was the
    reason they should have lower prices because of all the supply
    theoretically trapped there.

    You conservatives are obsessed with the Keystone pipeline only because you
    see it as a political point. I don’t believe you really believe it’s some magic talisman that would solve all energy issues like you imply.

    Our energy companies can increase supply already without needing any
    government policy changes. They are not producing what they can now. Like other corporations oil companies are happy to produce less at higher
    profit. I didn’t make that up. Analysts and the Exxon CEO have said so.

    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Johnny RSFCootball@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Tue Mar 8 05:37:43 2022
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:37:59 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE

    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
    analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
    more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re producing.”
    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie
    It's simple supply and demand. Less supply and the price goes up per barrel. Joe Biden and family have made millions from these russian a holes. Maybe he not a fool just has too much skin in the game which is clouding his strategic thinking and
    decision making
    https://thedrilldown.com/newsroom/hunter-biden-invited-russian-oligarchs-to-dinner/

    You said supply *and* demand, but haven’t mentioned anything about demand. Do you ever drive your car when you don’t really have to? If so, do you ever pass a gas station, complain about the high gas prices and Joe Biden, and then continue on with
    your nonessential car journey?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to Johnny RSFCootball on Tue Mar 8 05:56:35 2022
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:37:46 AM UTC-5, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:37:59 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE

    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
    analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
    proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
    more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re producing.”
    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
    liberal personality.” — Altie
    It's simple supply and demand. Less supply and the price goes up per barrel. Joe Biden and family have made millions from these russian a holes. Maybe he not a fool just has too much skin in the game whi;ch is clouding his strategic thinking and
    decision making
    https://thedrilldown.com/newsroom/hunter-biden-invited-russian-oligarchs-to-dinner/
    You said supply *and* demand, but haven’t mentioned anything about demand. Do you ever drive your car when you don’t really have to? If so, do you ever pass a gas station, complain about the high gas prices and Joe Biden, and then continue on with
    your nonessential car journey?
    I guess I need to stop going to the bar every day ; - )

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From TE@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 8 06:17:02 2022
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >>>> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign >>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE

    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
    call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re producing.”

    RHETORICAL FLOURISH! ($1)

    When RSFC bestrode the world, this would have made you a rich man.

    If the Keystone pipeline was still online would the price of oil be lower? Everybody with a brane: Yes

    -TE

    "Shit is so fake that the minute an outsider took office we got cheap gas, cheap food,
    became energy independent, no wars and focused on our country’s own issues. Establishment hacks get back in and we have inflation, medical tyranny, world war 3, need to take a mortgage for gas."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 8 07:22:20 2022
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:17:05 AM UTC-5, TE wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE

    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
    analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
    more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re producing.”
    RHETORICAL FLOURISH! ($1)

    When RSFC bestrode the world, this would have made you a rich man.

    If the Keystone pipeline was still online would the price of oil be lower? Everybody with a brane: Yes


    How can something that was never even built still be online?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From TE@21:1/5 to JGibson on Tue Mar 8 07:25:07 2022
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:22:23 AM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:17:05 AM UTC-5, TE wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE

    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
    analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
    proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
    more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re producing.”
    RHETORICAL FLOURISH! ($1)

    When RSFC bestrode the world, this would have made you a rich man.

    If the Keystone pipeline was still online would the price of oil be lower? Everybody with a brane: Yes

    How can something that was never even built still be online?

    Yep, I deserve to be slapped for that one.

    I'm going to go with "Well, you know what I mean."

    -TE

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
    -1984

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 8 18:10:13 2022
    On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoenright@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >>>>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >>>>>>> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >>>>>>> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >>>>>>> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign >>>>>> policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE


    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
    holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
    analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
    community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the >>> proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings
    call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and >>> more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
    producing.”

    That all is debatable, but not approving the Keystone pipeline and other
    exploration and drilling options makes the market tighter and enables that >> type of behavior.

    Canada just stated that they would be able to supply the shortfall if the
    Keystone Pipeline was built. Without it, their incentive to invest in
    the Athabasca is greatly reduced.

    You can pretend that squeezing oil and gas and coal in support of "green
    energy" didn't cause our current problems, but there is no doubt that it
    was one of the main factors.


    In Canada gas is over $1/gal more than here, yet they would divert their supply to us to keep our (lower) prices down? OK. If Keystone was the
    reason they should have lower prices because of all the supply
    theoretically trapped there.

    That is not the dynamic. They have much more supply of crude than
    necessary, but not much refining capability. Also, their taxes are
    much higher.


    You conservatives are obsessed with the Keystone pipeline only because you see it as a political point. I don’t believe you really believe it’s some magic talisman that would solve all energy issues like you imply.

    It is one of many investments that change the environment. There is
    no magic bullet.

    You can't have your cake and eat it too -- either you support making
    it more difficult to produce oil/gas/coal and own the result, or you
    support enabling it.

    Our energy companies can increase supply already without needing any government policy changes. They are not producing what they can now.

    So say you. If they won't produce it at these prices, I would argue
    they can't.

    Like other corporations oil companies are happy to produce less at
    higher profit. I didn’t make that up. Analysts and the Exxon CEO
    have said so.

    I agree. But they can't do that when competition increases. Witness
    OPEC trying to get control of the crude market when Iran, Venezuela,
    Russia, and Nigeria cheated on their targets.

    --
    Being against torture ought to be sort of a bipartisan thing.
    -- Karl Lehenbauer

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Tue Mar 8 10:49:26 2022
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 1:10:17 PM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
    On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <cons...@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >>>>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE


    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is >>> holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
    analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial >>> community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
    proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings >>> call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
    more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
    producing.”

    That all is debatable, but not approving the Keystone pipeline and other >> exploration and drilling options makes the market tighter and enables that
    type of behavior.

    Canada just stated that they would be able to supply the shortfall if the >> Keystone Pipeline was built. Without it, their incentive to invest in
    the Athabasca is greatly reduced.

    You can pretend that squeezing oil and gas and coal in support of "green >> energy" didn't cause our current problems, but there is no doubt that it >> was one of the main factors.


    In Canada gas is over $1/gal more than here, yet they would divert their supply to us to keep our (lower) prices down? OK. If Keystone was the reason they should have lower prices because of all the supply theoretically trapped there.
    That is not the dynamic. They have much more supply of crude than
    necessary, but not much refining capability. Also, their taxes are
    much higher.

    You conservatives are obsessed with the Keystone pipeline only because you see it as a political point. I don’t believe you really believe it’s some
    magic talisman that would solve all energy issues like you imply.
    It is one of many investments that change the environment. There is
    no magic bullet.

    You can't have your cake and eat it too -- either you support making
    it more difficult to produce oil/gas/coal and own the result, or you
    support enabling it.
    Our energy companies can increase supply already without needing any government policy changes. They are not producing what they can now.
    So say you. If they won't produce it at these prices, I would argue
    they can't.
    Like other corporations oil companies are happy to produce less at
    higher profit. I didn’t make that up. Analysts and the Exxon CEO
    have said so.
    I agree. But they can't do that when competition increases. Witness
    OPEC trying to get control of the crude market when Iran, Venezuela,
    Russia, and Nigeria cheated on their targets.
    --
    Being against torture ought to be sort of a bipartisan thing.
    -- Karl Lehenbauer
    So from 2019 to 2021 the US had a net surplus of oil an refined product that we exported. The keystone was being built and then Biden get in office. His first act is to shut down the keystone pipeline as well as close all federal land to drilling and
    exploration. Had the pipeline been allowed to processed, it would have been ready at the end of this year to move Canadian crude to refineries in TX. More than enough to replace all Russian crude.
    I understand cutting off Russian crude but it will only work to increase profit for them. The US needs, and I mean needs to open federal land to oil drilling that will indeed take years to develop but will take away the only power Putin has and that is
    oil and natural gas. Otherwise we will forever be held hostage by countries like Iran and Russia. Greening America is a great idea but we can't ignore the realities of the world as it is.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to randorwell@gmail.com on Tue Mar 8 18:33:50 2022
    On 2022-03-08, TE <randorwell@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:22:23 AM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:17:05 AM UTC-5, TE wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >> > > >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE

    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is >> > > holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
    analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial >> > > community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
    proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings >> > > call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
    more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
    producing.”
    RHETORICAL FLOURISH! ($1)

    When RSFC bestrode the world, this would have made you a rich man.

    If the Keystone pipeline was still online would the price of oil be lower? >> > Everybody with a brane: Yes

    How can something that was never even built still be online?

    Yep, I deserve to be slapped for that one.

    I'm going to go with "Well, you know what I mean."

    It is true that if it was still being built gas prices would be lower.

    --
    For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled. -- Dick Feynman

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  • From Johnny RSFCootball@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Tue Mar 8 11:29:41 2022
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 7:56:38 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:37:46 AM UTC-5, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:37:59 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE

    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
    holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
    analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
    community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
    proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
    more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re producing.”
    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
    liberal personality.” — Altie
    It's simple supply and demand. Less supply and the price goes up per barrel. Joe Biden and family have made millions from these russian a holes. Maybe he not a fool just has too much skin in the game whi;ch is clouding his strategic thinking and
    decision making
    https://thedrilldown.com/newsroom/hunter-biden-invited-russian-oligarchs-to-dinner/
    You said supply *and* demand, but haven’t mentioned anything about demand. Do you ever drive your car when you don’t really have to? If so, do you ever pass a gas station, complain about the high gas prices and Joe Biden, and then continue on
    with your nonessential car journey?
    I guess I need to stop going to the bar every day ; - )

    I wonder how many Americans per day complain about high gas prices while idling in the drive thru line for thirty minutes, waiting for their fourth meal.

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  • From Emperor Wonko the Sane@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Mar 8 12:11:34 2022
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 3:49:32 AM UTC-6, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.


    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production. As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21


    Leases are useless without drilling permits, which Biden has frozen. The real problem is that COVID caused a lot of companies to shutter. Those still standing capped off wells when there was no more storage available. When you cap a well, you don't
    just open it up. You have to drill a new one. I'm guessing that current oil prices are spurring a lot of new drilling, but that won't be on-line for a while.

    BTW, you can pretty much count on Jen Rubin to screw up the facts. She's the Hannity of the left-center.

    Doug

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Johnny RSFCootball on Tue Mar 8 17:26:32 2022
    On 3/8/2022 2:29 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 7:56:38 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:37:46 AM UTC-5, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:37:59 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >>>>>>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21 >>>>>>
    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE

    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is >>>>> holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
    analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial >>>>> community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the >>>>> proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings >>>>> call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
    more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re >>>>> producing.”
    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, >>>>> liberal personality.” — Altie
    It's simple supply and demand. Less supply and the price goes up per barrel. Joe Biden and family have made millions from these russian a holes. Maybe he not a fool just has too much skin in the game whi;ch is clouding his strategic thinking and
    decision making
    https://thedrilldown.com/newsroom/hunter-biden-invited-russian-oligarchs-to-dinner/
    You said supply *and* demand, but haven’t mentioned anything about demand. Do you ever drive your car when you don’t really have to? If so, do you ever pass a gas station, complain about the high gas prices and Joe Biden, and then continue on
    with your nonessential car journey?
    I guess I need to stop going to the bar every day ; - )

    I wonder how many Americans per day complain about high gas prices while idling in the drive thru line for thirty minutes, waiting for their fourth meal.

    I have to wonder what a nonessential trip is. I doubt I make many.

    --
    ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to Emperor Wonko the Sane on Tue Mar 8 22:43:59 2022
    On 2022-03-08, Emperor Wonko the Sane <doug@sorensensdomain.net> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 3:49:32 AM UTC-6, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.


    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >> >> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >> >> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >> >> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production. >> > As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21


    Leases are useless without drilling permits, which Biden has frozen.

    And we are utilizing a higher percentage of leases than ever before.

    The real problem is that COVID caused a lot of companies to shutter.
    Those still standing capped off wells when there was no more storage available. When you cap a well, you don't just open it up. You have to
    drill a new one. I'm guessing that current oil prices are spurring a
    lot of new drilling, but that won't be on-line for a while.

    BTW, you can pretty much count on Jen Rubin to screw up the facts.
    She's the Hannity of the left-center.

    That's for damn sure.

    --
    My wife is great. She doesn't care where I go, just as long as I don't
    have any fun. -- Lee Trevino

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Tue Mar 8 22:42:47 2022
    On 2022-03-08, floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 1:10:17 PM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
    On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <cons...@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2022-03-08, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE


    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is >> >>> holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
    analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial >> >>> community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
    proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings >> >>> call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
    more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re
    producing.”

    That all is debatable, but not approving the Keystone pipeline and other >> >> exploration and drilling options makes the market tighter and enables that
    type of behavior.

    Canada just stated that they would be able to supply the shortfall if the >> >> Keystone Pipeline was built. Without it, their incentive to invest in
    the Athabasca is greatly reduced.

    You can pretend that squeezing oil and gas and coal in support of "green >> >> energy" didn't cause our current problems, but there is no doubt that it >> >> was one of the main factors.


    In Canada gas is over $1/gal more than here, yet they would divert their >> > supply to us to keep our (lower) prices down? OK. If Keystone was the
    reason they should have lower prices because of all the supply
    theoretically trapped there.
    That is not the dynamic. They have much more supply of crude than
    necessary, but not much refining capability. Also, their taxes are
    much higher.

    You conservatives are obsessed with the Keystone pipeline only because you >> > see it as a political point. I don’t believe you really believe it’s some
    magic talisman that would solve all energy issues like you imply.
    It is one of many investments that change the environment. There is
    no magic bullet.

    You can't have your cake and eat it too -- either you support making
    it more difficult to produce oil/gas/coal and own the result, or you
    support enabling it.
    Our energy companies can increase supply already without needing any
    government policy changes. They are not producing what they can now.
    So say you. If they won't produce it at these prices, I would argue
    they can't.
    Like other corporations oil companies are happy to produce less at
    higher profit. I didn’t make that up. Analysts and the Exxon CEO
    have said so.
    I agree. But they can't do that when competition increases. Witness
    OPEC trying to get control of the crude market when Iran, Venezuela,
    Russia, and Nigeria cheated on their targets.

    So from 2019 to 2021 the US had a net surplus of oil an refined
    product that we exported. The keystone was being built and then
    Biden get in office. His first act is to shut down the keystone
    pipeline as well as close all federal land to drilling and
    exploration. Had the pipeline been allowed to processed, it would
    have been ready at the end of this year to move Canadian crude to
    refineries in TX. More than enough to replace all Russian crude.

    Indeed.

    I understand cutting off Russian crude but it will only work to
    increase profit for them.

    I will differ here. I think Putin stepped on his dick and that they
    are going to suffer in the long run as their crude and natural gas
    struggle to find ready markets. The world will benefit by increased
    nuclear and increased fossil fuel availability, assuming we can avoid
    nuclear war.

    We were needing to correct this damn monetary bubble we've been
    pumping up, and we have our chance. Too bad a few hundred million
    people will have to sink back into extreme poverty -- and tens of
    millions starve -- as a result.

    The US needs, and I mean needs to open federal land to oil drilling
    that will indeed take years to develop but will take away the only
    power Putin has and that is oil and natural gas. Otherwise we will
    forever be held hostage by countries like Iran and Russia. Greening
    America is a great idea but we can't ignore the realities of the
    world as it is.

    I don't think it needs to be federal land. That wouldn't be a bad
    strategic reserve to have. If we can leverage this into a nuclear
    energy transition that would be best.

    --
    Life is a long lesson in humility. -- James Barrie

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  • From Johnny RSFCootball@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Tue Mar 8 16:30:53 2022
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 4:26:41 PM UTC-6, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 3/8/2022 2:29 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 7:56:38 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:37:46 AM UTC-5, Johnny RSFCootball wrote: >>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:37:59 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >>>>>>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21 >>>>>>
    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE

    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is
    holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
    analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial
    community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
    proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings >>>>> call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
    more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re >>>>> producing.”
    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
    liberal personality.” — Altie
    It's simple supply and demand. Less supply and the price goes up per barrel. Joe Biden and family have made millions from these russian a holes. Maybe he not a fool just has too much skin in the game whi;ch is clouding his strategic thinking and
    decision making
    https://thedrilldown.com/newsroom/hunter-biden-invited-russian-oligarchs-to-dinner/
    You said supply *and* demand, but haven’t mentioned anything about demand. Do you ever drive your car when you don’t really have to? If so, do you ever pass a gas station, complain about the high gas prices and Joe Biden, and then continue on
    with your nonessential car journey?
    I guess I need to stop going to the bar every day ; - )

    I wonder how many Americans per day complain about high gas prices while idling in the drive thru line for thirty minutes, waiting for their fourth meal.
    I have to wonder what a nonessential trip is. I doubt I make many.

    --
    ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen

    Nothing personal but I don’t think you’re a typical American in 2022.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Thomas Enright@21:1/5 to Emperor Wonko the Sane on Tue Mar 8 17:25:23 2022
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:11:36 PM UTC-5, Emperor Wonko the Sane wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 3:49:32 AM UTC-6, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.


    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    Leases are useless without drilling permits, which Biden has frozen. The real problem is that COVID
    caused a lot of companies to shutter. Those still standing capped off wells when there was no more
    storage available. When you cap a well, you don't just open it up. You have to drill a new one. I'm
    guessing that current oil prices are spurring a lot of new drilling, but that won't be on-line for a while.

    BTW, you can pretty much count on Jen Rubin to screw up the facts. She's the Hannity of the left-center.

    Part of the problem is that you can drill all you want but just not where the oil is.

    Jen Psaki and Joe Biden lying to the public about this was pretty amazing. Neither
    attempted to even try explain it away or parse words. Just lie.

    -TE

    “On my first day as president, I will sign an executive order that puts a total moratorium on all new fossil
    fuel leases for drilling offshore and on public lands. And I will ban fracking—everywhere,”
    -Elizabeth Warren

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Johnny RSFCootball on Tue Mar 8 21:13:35 2022
    On 3/8/2022 7:30 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 4:26:41 PM UTC-6, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 3/8/2022 2:29 PM, Johnny RSFCootball wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 7:56:38 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:37:46 AM UTC-5, Johnny RSFCootball wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:37:59 AM UTC-6, floaterjr wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:17:29 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    Thomas Enright <tomoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 4:49:32 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.



    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national
    strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing
    army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a
    dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign
    policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21 >>>>>>>>
    IOW: We fscked-up things so well, it's gonna take you years to fix it. Morans!

    -TE

    It’s oil company financial goals, not any government policies that is >>>>>>> holding back US oil production.

    https://kesq.com/news/2022/03/02/more-oil-supply-could-stop-massive-price-spikes-but-us-producers-wont-fill-that-gap/

    Oil and gas companies do not want to drill more,” said Pavel Molchanov, an
    analyst at Raymond James. “They are under pressure from the financial >>>>>>> community to pay more dividends, to do more share buybacks instead of the
    proverbial ‘drill baby drill,’ which is the way they would have done things
    10 years ago. Corporate strategy has fundamentally changed.”

    […]

    When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings >>>>>>> call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, “The primary objectives we’ve
    had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and
    more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we’re >>>>>>> producing.”
    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
    liberal personality.” — Altie
    It's simple supply and demand. Less supply and the price goes up per barrel. Joe Biden and family have made millions from these russian a holes. Maybe he not a fool just has too much skin in the game whi;ch is clouding his strategic thinking and
    decision making
    https://thedrilldown.com/newsroom/hunter-biden-invited-russian-oligarchs-to-dinner/
    You said supply *and* demand, but haven’t mentioned anything about demand. Do you ever drive your car when you don’t really have to? If so, do you ever pass a gas station, complain about the high gas prices and Joe Biden, and then continue on
    with your nonessential car journey?
    I guess I need to stop going to the bar every day ; - )

    I wonder how many Americans per day complain about high gas prices while idling in the drive thru line for thirty minutes, waiting for their fourth meal.
    I have to wonder what a nonessential trip is. I doubt I make many.

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    Nothing personal but I don’t think you’re a typical American in 2022.

    TTG

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to Thomas Enright on Wed Mar 9 04:05:47 2022
    On 2022-03-09, Thomas Enright <tomoenright@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 3:11:36 PM UTC-5, Emperor Wonko the Sane wrote:
    On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 3:49:32 AM UTC-6, xyzzy wrote:
    floaterjr <gpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:35:29 AM UTC-5, floaterjr wrote:
    https://www.globalenergyinstitute.org/benefits-keystone-xl#:~:text=The%20proposed%20Transcanada%20Keystone%20XL,and%20regions%20of%20the%20world.


    This is going to be Biden's mistake, Energy independence is of national >> > >> strategic importance. Energy independence is better than a new standing >> > >> army or a new navy battle group. The world is and will continue to be a >> > >> dangerous and volatile place.
    Instead Biden's going to Saudi Arabia and beg for increase in production.
    As Robert Gates once told congress. Joe Biden has been right on foreign >> > > policy for 30 years and I think that statement is as true today as when he said it.


    Details, details.

    https://twitter.com/jrubinblogger/status/1500650956769447937?s=21

    Leases are useless without drilling permits, which Biden has frozen. The real problem is that COVID
    caused a lot of companies to shutter. Those still standing capped off wells when there was no more
    storage available. When you cap a well, you don't just open it up. You have to drill a new one. I'm
    guessing that current oil prices are spurring a lot of new drilling, but that won't be on-line for a while.

    BTW, you can pretty much count on Jen Rubin to screw up the facts. She's the Hannity of the left-center.

    Part of the problem is that you can drill all you want but just not where the oil is.

    Jen Psaki and Joe Biden lying to the public about this was pretty amazing. Neither
    attempted to even try explain it away or parse words. Just lie.


    They are now actively blaming the high gas prices on Russia and Ukraine. If
    the 70¢ a gallon that have been added in the past week were all that
    there was, gas would be $2.99 a gallon now.

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    will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks
    to the Internet, we know this is not true. -- Robert Wilensky

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