• Re: Do I get a newsreader or do I just give up on rsfc?

    From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Thu Dec 14 22:43:01 2023
    On 2023-12-14, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
    Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
    content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
    historical data will still be supported as it is done today

    I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
    of users are from Google Groups.

    What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as Thunderbird.

    I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.

    I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
    a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
    more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....

    If someone would give me an airplane ride I'd get a subscription and
    pull RSFC and put up a Usenet server.... :)

    --
    Experience is what allows you to recognize a mistake the second time you
    make it. -- unknown

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to JGibson on Thu Dec 14 22:39:57 2023
    On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
    Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
    content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today

    I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
    of users are from Google Groups.

    What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as Thunderbird.

    I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
    one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
    I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.

    I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
    a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
    more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....

    --
    The sun, with all those planets revolving around it and dependent on it,
    can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the
    universe to do. -- Galileo

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to JGibson on Fri Dec 15 02:36:23 2023
    On 2023-12-15, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 5:40:02 PM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
    On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
    Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
    content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
    historical data will still be supported as it is done today
    I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
    of users are from Google Groups.

    What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
    Thunderbird.

    I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring >> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
    I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.

    I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
    a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
    more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....

    Outside of my work e-mail, I use gmail.


    Then you'd have to get a news reader. I don't know Usenet clients
    outside of Linux. Thunderbird would work, of course. It looks like PAN
    has a Windows client. Heaven only knows if Apple deigns to support
    such things.

    I'd give you a login to SSH in and use SLRN, if you wanted to do
    what I do and use text-based. I assume you can still get Eternal
    September accounts.

    But I doubt the froup will survive, alas. Too big a blow. Now
    we see the problem of having a sugar daddy. You become old and
    unattractive like Usenet, and it's "Honey, there's the door."

    --
    Life may not be quite the party we hoped for, but while we
    are here we might as well dance. -- Anonymous

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Fri Dec 15 02:27:51 2023
    On 2023-12-14, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
    Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
    content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
    historical data will still be supported as it is done today

    I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
    of users are from Google Groups.

    What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as Thunderbird.

    I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.

    I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
    a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
    more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....


    It is -- I would use the old "suck" program to pull in the group (and
    the few others I still watch) from an NNTP feed, then provide a server
    that people could use. I doubt that there will be a call for it,
    but if there were, I could do it.

    Hard to believe that after 34 years of Usenet use, it will be history
    for me. I got my first feed from UIUC, then from UUNET, if anyone
    remembers them. I ran news peers with C News, then INN, for a number
    of years. All through the Morris incident, Sep 1994, rise of the
    spammers (I wonder if Sanford Wallace is still alive) and the
    corresponding cancelers. What a fustercluck.

    --
    Socialism -- ideas so good they have to be enforced at gunpoint.
    -- unknown

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  • From RoddyMcCorley@21:1/5 to JGibson on Fri Dec 15 00:05:11 2023
    On 12/14/2023 9:16 PM, JGibson wrote:
    On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 5:40:02 PM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
    On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
    Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
    content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
    historical data will still be supported as it is done today
    I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
    of users are from Google Groups.

    What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
    Thunderbird.

    I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring >> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
    I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.

    I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
    a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
    more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....

    Outside of my work e-mail, I use gmail.


    I use Thunderbird for all my mail. Pretty flexible.
    --
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In
    practice, there is."

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to jimbr...@yahoo.com on Fri Dec 15 23:30:25 2023
    On 2023-12-15, jimbr...@yahoo.com <jimbrowndoc@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 4:03:32 PM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it
    is done today


    You could start a second FB group that allows all discussions. (the one now is supposed to disallow politics, though it is not usually enforced)

    RSFC Unleashed!

    --
    Being against torture ought to be sort of a bipartisan thing.
    -- Karl Lehenbauer

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to Happy Holidaze on Sat Dec 16 02:48:18 2023
    On 2023-12-16, Happy Holidaze <posted@usenet.org> wrote:
    "Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com> wrote in news:slrnunn11t.1ajdo.constance@karen.heins.net:

    On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
    Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
    content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
    historical data will still be supported as it is done today

    I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the
    majority of users are from Google Groups.

    What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
    Thunderbird.

    I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear,
    requiring one to pay for it. There are no good providers with
    sub-$5.00/month cost that I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for
    years, but that is gone.

    I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
    a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
    more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....

    This should do it for most.

    paganini.bofh.team port 119 or 563

    No registration required, good retention.

    Seems to work well. I'll try it for a while. This in combination with Thunderbird or Pan should work pretty well for most people, though I don't
    know what mobile or tablet users would find to use.

    --
    Laws are generally found to be nets of such texture, as the little
    creep through, the great break through, and the middle-sized alone
    are entangled in. -- William Shenstone

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  • From Happy Holidaze@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American" on Sat Dec 16 02:23:37 2023
    "Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com> wrote in news:slrnunn11t.1ajdo.constance@karen.heins.net:

    On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
    Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
    content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
    historical data will still be supported as it is done today

    I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the
    majority of users are from Google Groups.

    What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as Thunderbird.

    I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear,
    requiring one to pay for it. There are no good providers with
    sub-$5.00/month cost that I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for
    years, but that is gone.

    I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
    a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
    more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....

    This should do it for most.

    paganini.bofh.team port 119 or 563

    No registration required, good retention.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From joe@mich.com@21:1/5 to JGibson on Sat Dec 16 08:21:47 2023
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 14:03:28 -0800 (PST), JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it
    is done today

    $50 buys 1000G on Astraweb. That's a ton of usenet use.

    I still use Forte Agent 4, works with all versions of Windows, but have to search to find free version now. Agent 9 is excellent but is $29 now, I
    think

    Xananews looks great and is free, Pan looks good as well and is also free.

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to joe@mich.com on Sat Dec 16 15:14:49 2023
    On 2023-12-16, joe@mich.com <joe@mich.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 14:03:28 -0800 (PST), JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it
    is done today

    $50 buys 1000G on Astraweb. That's a ton of usenet use.

    I still use Forte Agent 4, works with all versions of Windows, but
    have to search to find free version now. Agent 9 is excellent but is
    $29 now, I think

    Xananews looks great and is free, Pan looks good as well and is also free.

    PAN originally stood for Pimp-Ass Newsreader. (Of course that meant I
    had to try it out.) I found it tow work well, and if I were a graphical
    kind of guy I would use that.

    --
    The problem with Internet quotations is that many of them
    are not genuine. -- Abraham Lincoln

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  • From Nomen Nescio@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 18 02:11:40 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.british, soc.culture.scottish

    Alternative to GOOGLE groups shutting down...

    https://rec.sport.football.college.narkive.com/

    https://soc.culture.british.com.narkive.com/

    https://soc.culture.scottish.narkive.com/

    https://narkive.com/

    Just add .narkive.com/ to the end of the group you're googling for.

    For general everyday sending email you should be using tuta.com encrypted email.
    "END TO END ENCRYPTION"

    This is not about making money, this is about telling people to use end to end encryption when sending email. Get off Hotmail and Gmail and other like them as they're scanning your emails, putting ads in your email account and collecting data on you. Why do you think they're free, do you think they want to make you happy?

    FREE and premium services: https://tuta.com/

    Independent tuta review: https://privacysavvy.com/email/guides/tutanota-guide/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Dec 18 17:30:25 2023
    On 2023-12-16, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
    Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
    content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
    historical data will still be supported as it is done today

    I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
    of users are from Google Groups.

    What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
    Thunderbird.

    I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring >> one to pay for it.

    Eternal September has been flaky lately. Been seeing a lot of out of
    sequence post delivery where I see the replies before the original poast,
    or never see the original poast. It was making rsfc unusable for me so I stopped for a while. But checking in now it *seems* to have been resolved. We’ll see

    Same here. But the paganini.bofh.team server that was posted here is working great for me, and I am using it.

    --
    That a few of us need to be more in touch with our feelings has obscured
    a deep truth: many more folks need to be much less in touch with theirs.
    -- Eric Weinstein

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Dec 18 17:29:22 2023
    On 2023-12-16, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-14, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
    Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
    content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of
    historical data will still be supported as it is done today

    I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority
    of users are from Google Groups.

    What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as
    Thunderbird.

    I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring >>> one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
    I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.

    I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
    a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for
    more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....

    If someone would give me an airplane ride I'd get a subscription and
    pull RSFC and put up a Usenet server.... :)


    If you’re referring to me I sold my plane this past summer and gave up flying, at least for now. No specific reasons just felt like I’d done all I wanted to do with it and wasn’t enjoying it enough any more to justify the cost and effort.

    Maybe after a few years away I’ll get the itch again and re-take it up.


    Darn! Missed my window. :)

    I'll keep looking for opportunities. I was thinking I might try learning
    now that I am only a few miles from the EAA location, but considering my medical situation I decided discretion was the better part of valor.

    --
    That a few of us need to be more in touch with our feelings has obscured
    a deep truth: many more folks need to be much less in touch with theirs.
    -- Eric Weinstein

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to Nomen Nescio on Mon Dec 18 17:32:03 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.british, soc.culture.scottish

    On 2023-12-18, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
    Alternative to GOOGLE groups shutting down...

    https://rec.sport.football.college.narkive.com/

    https://soc.culture.british.com.narkive.com/

    https://soc.culture.scottish.narkive.com/

    https://narkive.com/

    Just add .narkive.com/ to the end of the group you're googling for.

    For general everyday sending email you should be using tuta.com encrypted email.
    "END TO END ENCRYPTION"

    This is not about making money, this is about telling people to use end to end
    encryption when sending email. Get off Hotmail and Gmail and other like them as
    they're scanning your emails, putting ads in your email account and collecting
    data on you. Why do you think they're free, do you think they want to make you
    happy?

    FREE and premium services: https://tuta.com/

    Independent tuta review: https://privacysavvy.com/email/guides/tutanota-guide/



    Nice to know about if the group keeps on going.

    But can you post from it?

    --
    Life isn't fair, but it's good. -- Regina Brett

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Dec 18 19:37:13 2023
    On 2023-12-18, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-16, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-14, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new >>>>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new >>>>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of >>>>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today

    I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority >>>>> of users are from Google Groups.

    What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as >>>>> Thunderbird.

    I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
    one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
    I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone.

    I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and
    a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for >>>>> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible....

    If someone would give me an airplane ride I'd get a subscription and
    pull RSFC and put up a Usenet server.... :)


    If you’re referring to me I sold my plane this past summer and gave up >>> flying, at least for now. No specific reasons just felt like I’d done all I
    wanted to do with it and wasn’t enjoying it enough any more to justify the
    cost and effort.

    Maybe after a few years away I’ll get the itch again and re-take it up. >>>

    Darn! Missed my window. :)

    I'll keep looking for opportunities. I was thinking I might try learning
    now that I am only a few miles from the EAA location, but considering my
    medical situation I decided discretion was the better part of valor.


    Flying gliders doesn’t require an FAA medical, if that interests you.

    I remember that from when I was a kid...how hard is it to get a tow?

    --
    Being against torture ought to be sort of a bipartisan thing.
    -- Karl Lehenbauer

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Dec 18 20:55:02 2023
    On 2023-12-18, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-18, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-16, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-14, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-14, JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new >>>>>>>> Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new >>>>>>>> content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of >>>>>>>> historical data will still be supported as it is done today

    I suspect that post volume will dictate that -- seems like the majority >>>>>>> of users are from Google Groups.

    What do you use for email? A lot of the clients have Usenet, such as >>>>>>> Thunderbird.

    I wonder if Eternal September will get overwhelmed and disappear, requiring
    one to pay for it. There are no good providers with sub-$5.00/month cost that
    I can find. I had a $3.00 Supernews for years, but that is gone. >>>>>>>
    I suppose I could bring up a Usenet server and try to pull RSFC and >>>>>>> a couple of other groups, but I haven't tried to find Usenet peers for >>>>>>> more than a decade and don't even know if it is really possible.... >>>>>>
    If someone would give me an airplane ride I'd get a subscription and >>>>>> pull RSFC and put up a Usenet server.... :)


    If you’re referring to me I sold my plane this past summer and gave up >>>>> flying, at least for now. No specific reasons just felt like I’d done all I
    wanted to do with it and wasn’t enjoying it enough any more to justify the
    cost and effort.

    Maybe after a few years away I’ll get the itch again and re-take it up. >>>>>

    Darn! Missed my window. :)

    I'll keep looking for opportunities. I was thinking I might try learning >>>> now that I am only a few miles from the EAA location, but considering my >>>> medical situation I decided discretion was the better part of valor.


    Flying gliders doesn’t require an FAA medical, if that interests you.

    I remember that from when I was a kid...how hard is it to get a tow?


    It’s generally a service offered by all glider clubs. Looks like there’s one near you at Seminole Lake https://www.soarfl.com/

    I was thinking of doing it in the summer up by our house in Fond du Lac.
    Looks like there is a place less than an hour from my place...

    I think we are planning to ride a boat over to watch the EAA show this
    summer. I don't know what the protocol is for that other than just
    shooting on over...but I am sure our neighbors will give us all the
    info.

    --
    An amateur practices until he gets it right. A pro
    practices until he can't get it wrong. -- unknown

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  • From Nomen Nescio@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 18 23:02:03 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.british, soc.culture.scottish

    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote...

    Nice to know about if the group keeps on going.

    But can you post from it?

    Some groups let you post (list below) but you have to register.

    No need to subscribe or register if posting to usenet via a remailer!

    I2PN2 |> https://i2pn2.org (full text feed)
    NovaBBS |> https://novabbs.org (darknet text feed)
    Eternal September |> https://www.eternal-september.org (full text feed) Blue World Hosting |> https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com (full text feed) Solani |> https://solani.org
    DOTSRC |> https://dotsrc.org/usenet/
    Agency News |> http://www.news.bbs.nz
    NNTP4 / FreeDyn |> https://news.nntp4.net
    Chmurka |> http://news.chmurka.net (Polish language)
    Ausics |> https://newsgroups.ausics.net/ (Australia Only)
    CSIPH |> http://csiph.com (full text feed)
    Paganini |> nntp://paganini.bofh.team (full text feed)

    Learn how to post anonymously to usenet here if you don't want to register...

    Remailer Reliability Stats: https://www.mixmin.net/echolot/rlist2.html https://tincture.ws/pinger/classic/rlist2.html
    Encrypt Everything: https://gnupg.org/download/

    The first thing you need to do is get the key/s for the remailer/s you want to use...

    Remailer key for beaufusil: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.privacy.anon-server/c/6H_UtxkYWE0
    Remailer key for hsub: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.privacy.anon-server/c/HGKfUsks2Hg
    Remailer key for shalo: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.privacy.anon-server/c/QtTm2-Spi7c
    Remailer key for paranoia: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.privacy.anon-server/c/Sbw708Rgkmo
    Remailer key for dizum: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.privacy.anon-server/c/C7tk1vFkSS8
    Remailer key for frell: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.privacy.anon-server/c/_q6eQoBXHjI

    How To Send Anonymous Email / Posts Manually

    Sending manually eliminates the need for software on your computer which could have a backdoor!

    These are the fundamental instructions to understand how remailer messages are created and this
    will help you to understand how remailers work.

    If you want to send an anonymous message, first of all create a file containing:
    - two colon signs ( :: ) in the first line,
    - the phrase "Anon-To: e-mail address" in the second line
    whereby the e-mail address should be the address the remailer will send the message to.
    The third line should be empty and the message text will follow.

    For Usenet posts you must use: Anon-Post-To: rec.sport.football.college or the target group.
    For rec.arts.tv you would use: Anon-Post-To: rec.arts.tv and so on.

    e.g.:

    =============================================================
    ::
    Anon-Post-To: rec.sport.football.college

    Write here your message

    =============================================================
    ::
    Anon-To: address@example.org

    Write here your message =============================================================

    Remailers only accept messages encrypted through PGP or GPG, so your message must be encrypted
    with the remailer public key, which you can get by sending a message to the remailer
    (mixmaster@remailer.paranoici.org) and by entering "remailer-key" in the subject.

    So the above message must be encrypted with the remailer PGP key and eventually sent to
    mixmaster@remailer.paranoici.org by entering two colon signs at the beginning of the message
    and, in the second line, the phrase "Encrypted: PGP" followed by the previously encrypted
    message.

    =============================================================
    From: joe@test.com
    To: mixmaster@remailer.paranoici.org

    ::
    Encrypted: PGP

    -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
    Version: 2.6.3i

    owE1jMsNwjAUBH3gZMk9PClnUoBPUANpwElW2OBPZD8H0gd1UCP2gduuNDNfj IcSHT4zCbQmtlbzGFM9T0jSD7QVvEzaPcUlBSSWHQclbnR9YWJNp5BFSLdR9s CijF3NGxybry/1Rsqn4la3a0JiIhLvnYGCu9HFtiC8oIxnlkeuIYe+EH=HgDa
    -----END PGP MESSAGE----- =============================================================

    The remailer will decode your message and send it anonymously. If you want to include a subject
    or other headers which shouldn't be filtered by the remailer, you can enter them as explained
    below before encrypting the message for the remailer:

    =============================================================
    ::
    Anon-To: address@example.org

    ##
    Subject: Re: Twofish
    In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:47:04 EST."
    <199901130247.WAA02761@example.com>

    Message text
    =============================================================

    Even if PGP encryption is very safe, using a remailer in the simplest way is not the best system
    for protecting your identity. Therefore, you can tell the remailer, for instance, to keep the
    message you've sent for a certain period of time and to forward it later so as to avoid the
    so-called traffic analysis.
    If you enter the header Latent-Time: +2:00, your message will be delayed by 2 hours, while if you
    use the syntax Latent-Time: +5:00r, you'll have a random delay between 0 and 5 hours.

    The best way to use a remailer is by using them in a chain, by sending a message from one remailer to
    the other before it reaches your address.
    Let's make an example with the above message:

    =============================================================
    ::
    Anon-To: mixmaster@remailer.paranoici.org

    ::
    Encrypted: PGP

    -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
    Version: 2.6.3i

    owE1jMsNwjAUBH3gZMk9PClnUoBPUANpwElW2OBPZD8H0gd1UCP2gduuNDNfI T4zCbQmtlbzGFM9T0jSD7QVvEzaPcUlBSSWHQclbnR9YWJNp5BFSLdR9CijF3 ybry/1Rsqn4la3a0JiIhLvnYGCu9HFtiC8oIxnlkeuIYe+EH=HgDq
    -----END PGP MESSAGE----- =============================================================

    you can encrypt this message with the PGP key of another remailer (e.g. Dizum) and send the
    encrypted message to this remailer: remailer@dizum.com

    Thus Dizum will receive the message and decode it and will find the instructions to send it
    to mixmaster@remailer.paranoici.org, which in its turn will decode it and send it to
    address@example.org

    There is more on remailing here: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.privacy.anon-server/c/erlv9NR9A7Y
    This page needs updating but worth a look: https://dizum.com/

    One last thing... get off Hotmail, Gmail or whetever you're using and send your email
    encrypted so that your ISP or email provider can't profile you. https://tuta.com/
    (the best out there) FREE and premium services! END TO END ENCRYPTION!!!

    Stay safe, stay encrypted!

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  • From MummyChunk@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 20 17:47:30 2023
    JGibson wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support
    new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and
    new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching
    of historical data will still be supported as it is done
    today

    Just use another site that provides web based access to
    the group. They are a few out there for those who do not want to use
    a NNTP server for access.


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=657370456#657370456

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  • From MummyChunk@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 20 15:49:07 2024
    On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 5:03:32PM UTC-5, JGibson
    wrote:
    Just saw this note that the top of rsfc:

    *BEGIN QUOTE*
    Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support
    new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and
    new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching
    of historical data will still be supported as it is done today

    JE Corbett wrote:


    I'm giving up all my google groups. I waste too much time on them
    as it is. I'm not going to pay for an alternative.

    Why pay when there are plenty of options where you do not need to pay
    and they work the same as Google Groups (or better)

    Here for example.


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=657370456#657370456

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