ACC has Florida State
Big XII has Oklahoma
Big Ten has the Michigan-Ohio State winner. Though Ohio State has to go to Camp Randall, and bizarre things can happen there.
Mountain West has Air Force
Pac-12 has... Washington????
SEC has Georgia.
And the Sun Belt has James Madison.
Four can't go into seven.
ACC has Florida State
Big XII has Oklahoma
Big Ten has the Michigan-Ohio State winner. Though Ohio State has to go to Camp Randall, and bizarre things can happen there.
Mountain West has Air Force
Pac-12 has... Washington????
SEC has Georgia.
And the Sun Belt has James Madison.
Four can't go into seven.
Mike
3. No matter what else happens this year it is so nice that the
Alabama Crimson Shit Kickers (and their cup cake schedule)
are NOT in the Top Five.
James Madison and Air Force are going nowhere, even if undefeated.Well, Air Force is probably going to the Fiesta Bowl, where they'll probably end up playing...Michigan, who will be sent there by the CFP committee as punishment for the whole scouting thing.
James Madison and Air Force are going nowhere, even if undefeated.
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 11:27:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
ACC has Florida State
Big XII has Oklahoma
Big Ten has the Michigan-Ohio State winner. Though Ohio State has to go to Camp Randall, and bizarre things can happen there.
Mountain West has Air Force
Pac-12 has... Washington????
SEC has Georgia.
And the Sun Belt has James Madison.
Four can't go into seven.
MikeJames Madison and Air Force are going nowhere, even if undefeated.
Florida State, Oklahoma, and Washington all seem flawed enough to take a loss this season even if they end up winning their conferences.
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 4:48:36?PM UTC-4, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
James Madison and Air Force are going nowhere, even if undefeated.Well, Air Force is probably going to the Fiesta Bowl, where they'll probably end up playing...Michigan, who will be sent there by the CFP committee as punishment for the whole scouting thing.
I wish you were right but there is about as much chance of that happening
as there is of an SEC Ref throwing a flag on the Alabama Crimson
Shit Kickers. Which is to say slim and none - and slim left town.
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 4:15:43 PM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
Florida State, Oklahoma, and Washington all seem flawed enough to take a loss this season even if they end up winning their conferences.Any of them is still a probable for the CFB if they win out.
Other teams that with will probably be in if they win out are
Texas: would get rematch vs Ok
Alabama
Mizzou: unlikely path though Ga, Tn and Bama(?)
Oregon, OregonSt, Utah: winning out not likely, but likely sufficient.
Needing more help:
Miss: would have wins against Ga and A&M but likely no CCG
Penn St: 11-1 might be enough.
Needing lots of help:
NC, Louisville: losses are bad
James Madison and Air Force are going nowhere, even if undefeated.Well, Air Force is probably going to the Fiesta Bowl, where they'll probably end up playing...Michigan, who will be sent there by the CFP committee as punishment for the whole scouting thing.
James Madison and Air Force are going nowhere, even if undefeated.
ACC has Florida State
Big XII has Oklahoma
Big Ten has the Michigan-Ohio State winner. Though Ohio State has to go to Camp Randall, and bizarre things can happen there.
Mountain West has Air Force
Pac-12 has... Washington????
SEC has Georgia.
And the Sun Belt has James Madison.
Four can't go into seven.
Mike
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:15:43 PM UTC-7, JGibson wrote:
James Madison and Air Force are going nowhere, even if undefeated.That's part of the problem with the system, and part of my point. :)
ACC has Florida State
Big XII has Oklahoma
Big Ten has the Michigan-Ohio State winner. Though Ohio State has to go to Camp Randall, and bizarre things can happen there.
Mountain West has Air Force
Pac-12 has... Washington????
SEC has Georgia.
And the Sun Belt has James Madison.
Four can't go into seven.
Mike
Well, it's the last year of this system. One of them would get a playoff bid in next year's system.James Madison and Air Force are going nowhere, even if undefeated.That's part of the problem with the system, and part of my point. :)
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 11:27:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
ACC has Florida State
Big XII has Oklahoma
Big Ten has the Michigan-Ohio State winner. Though Ohio State has to go to Camp Randall, and bizarre things can happen there.
Mountain West has Air Force
Pac-12 has... Washington????
SEC has Georgia.
And the Sun Belt has James Madison.
Four can't go into seven.
MikeChance of each undefeated team remaining undefeated through their conference championship game, based on FPI:
Liberty: 46.4%
Florida State: 42.7%
Oklahoma: 38.0%
Ohio State: 33.3%
James Madison: 21.5%
Michigan: 20.8%
Air Force: 18.3%
Georgia: 14.8%
Washington: 9.4%
conference champion hosts the game even if it is the lower seed" rule, which I doubt will happen ("hey - be glad you're in the playoff at all").Yes, but not only would neither of them get a bye, I doubt that either of them would even get a home game in the first round, unless the CFP Management Committee decides to have a "if an at-large team plays a conference champion in the first round, theWell, it's the last year of this system. One of them would get a playoff bid in next year's system.James Madison and Air Force are going nowhere, even if undefeated.That's part of the problem with the system, and part of my point. :)
Well, it's the last year of this system. One of them would get a playoff bid in next year's system.
the conference champion hosts the game even if it is the lower seed" rule, which I doubt will happen ("hey - be glad you're in the playoff at all").Yes, but not only would neither of them get a bye, I doubt that either of them would even get a home game in the first round, unless the CFP Management Committee decides to have a "if an at-large team plays a conference champion in the first round,
I actually dispute that. I think they would want to give preferential to a conference champ, even if...
the conference champion hosts the game even if it is the lower seed" rule, which I doubt will happen ("hey - be glad you're in the playoff at all").Yes, but not only would neither of them get a bye, I doubt that either of them would even get a home game in the first round, unless the CFP Management Committee decides to have a "if an at-large team plays a conference champion in the first round,
rules, it was not reviewable, and since only conference champions can be seeded 1-4, you are a #5 seed, but since 12 seed Boise State won its conference, your first round game is in Boise...in mid-December. Hope you like the cold."I actually dispute that. I think they would want to give preferential to a conference champ, even if...
Somehow, I don't see the CFP committee telling, say, Alabama, "Sorry that your only loss this season was to #1 Georgia because your winning field goal was declared no good as an official thought the tip of the ball passed over an upright, and by NCAA
On 10/26/2023 6:44 PM, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
Yes, but not only would neither of them get a bye, I doubt that either >>>> of them would even get a home game in the first round, unless the CFPI actually dispute that. I think they would want to give preferential
Management Committee decides to have a "if an at-large team plays a
conference champion in the first round, the conference champion hosts
the game even if it is the lower seed" rule, which I doubt will happen >>>> ("hey - be glad you're in the playoff at all").
to a conference champ, even if...
Somehow, I don't see the CFP committee telling, say, Alabama, "Sorry
that your only loss this season was to #1 Georgia because your winning
field goal was declared no good as an official thought the tip of the
ball passed over an upright, and by NCAA rules, it was not reviewable,
and since only conference champions can be seeded 1-4, you are a #5
seed, but since 12 seed Boise State won its conference, your first round
game is in Boise...in mid-December. Hope you like the cold."
Sweet
Ken Olson <kol...@freedomnet.org> wrote:
On 10/26/2023 6:44 PM, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
Yes, but not only would neither of them get a bye, I doubt that either >>>> of them would even get a home game in the first round, unless the CFP >>>> Management Committee decides to have a "if an at-large team plays a >>>> conference champion in the first round, the conference champion hosts >>>> the game even if it is the lower seed" rule, which I doubt will happen >>>> ("hey - be glad you're in the playoff at all").I actually dispute that. I think they would want to give preferential >>> to a conference champ, even if...
Somehow, I don't see the CFP committee telling, say, Alabama, "Sorry
that your only loss this season was to #1 Georgia because your winning
field goal was declared no good as an official thought the tip of the
ball passed over an upright, and by NCAA rules, it was not reviewable,
and since only conference champions can be seeded 1-4, you are a #5
seed, but since 12 seed Boise State won its conference, your first round >> game is in Boise...in mid-December. Hope you like the cold."
SweetYeah. That would be awesome.
But as we can see from NCAA basketball tournament seedings, winning your conference means basically nothing beyond getting you in.
And now the NIT has officially gone the way of favoring the bigger conferences - auto-bid to regular season is out. Auto-bid to top 2 NET teams in each of the Power 6 conferences for 12 auto-bids to power conferences and 0 for other conferences is in.
What's more likely is that you will see the 68 coalesce into a Power 6 tournament, and, at that point...
s left of the Pac-12 as non-football schools happens).What's more likely is that you will see the 68 coalesce into a Power 6 tournament, and, at that point...And that's different from what it is now in what way, exactly? Unless you mean that only Power 6 schools will be in it, period (and the only way you're still going to have a Power 6 is if something along the lines of Gonzaga and St. Mary's joining what'
If that happens, the tournament eventually loses its casual fanbase without the Cinderella stories, which means it's not worth nearly as much to the broadcasters, and the money goes down considerably.
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