Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big 10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said "today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.
Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12
There's nothing in sight.Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big 10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said "today is about football" was telling.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:There's nothing in sight.
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big 10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said "today is about football" was telling.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner <darkstar7646@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and
not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big
10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said
"today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.
If it can talk a few of the San Diego States and Boise States out west into joining, it can still hang on as a football conference.
I think the key team here is Stanford - if it leaves, the others might as well start making phone calls; the best it could hope for is to become a Patriot-style conference where your decent football teams play in another conference.
("But Stanford won't leave without Cal" - why? Explain how being in two different conferences doesn't stop Florida-Florida State and Georgia-Georgia Tech from happening every season.)
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42 PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:There's nothing in sight.
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big 10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said "today is about football" was telling.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC jumped.
Mike
<j...@mich.com> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner <darkst...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and >>> not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big
10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said >>> "today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.
Was it though? IMO it all started with Penn State to the B1G and Arkansas and South Carolina to the SEC.
And the first poaching of the modern era was the Big 8 destroying the SWC. The PAC didn’t poach anyone until 15 years after that.
<joe@mich.com> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner <darkstar7646@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and
not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big
10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said
"today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.
Was it though? IMO it all started with Penn State to the B1G and Arkansas
and South Carolina to the SEC.
And the first poaching of the modern era was the Big 8 destroying the SWC. >The PAC didnt poach anyone until 15 years after that.
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:11:51 -0000 (UTC), xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
<joe@mich.com> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner <darkstar7646@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and >>>>> not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big
10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said >>>>> "today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.
Was it though? IMO it all started with Penn State to the B1G and Arkansas
and South Carolina to the SEC.
And the first poaching of the modern era was the Big 8 destroying the SWC. >> The PAC didnt poach anyone until 15 years after that.
Schools changing conferences went back many decades, but it was the PAC
that got the poaching ball rolling.
As for the three you mentioned, Penn State was always independent,
and South Carolina had left the ACC in 1971 and became independent.
Arkansas and the 4 TX teams were
looking for homes as the SWC was failing, largely instigated by the SMU
death penalty. There was a ton of
financial collateral damage from that and the league was going insolvent.
The Big 8 did not poach 4 teams and
destroy the SWC, the SWC was on it's way out and the Big 8 expanded to 12
by accepting 4 teams looking for a haven.
However, in the case of the PAC 10, they poached 2 teams, and tried to
poach 4 more Big 12 teams (TX, OK, TT, OSU) to make
a 16 team super conference, and was in dicussions with them. TX rejected
it, so the others did also. Nevertheless,the concept of
poaching for tv revenue was now on the table, and now we have the ridiculously large conferences with ridiculous members from a geographicly..
And, as I said, I consider it ironic and karma that the PAC12 that is to blame for this is now having their premier teams poached and their dreams of being a super conference going down the drain. Too bad, since I grew up a PAC 8 fan.
Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Alti
<joe@mich.com> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:11:51 -0000 (UTC), xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
<joe@mich.com> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner <darkstar7646@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and >>>>>> not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big >>>>>> 10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said >>>>>> "today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.
Was it though? IMO it all started with Penn State to the B1G and Arkansas >>> and South Carolina to the SEC.
And the first poaching of the modern era was the Big 8 destroying the SWC. >>> The PAC didn?t poach anyone until 15 years after that.
Schools changing conferences went back many decades, but it was the PAC
that got the poaching ball rolling.
As for the three you mentioned, Penn State was always independent,
and South Carolina had left the ACC in 1971 and became independent.
Arkansas and the 4 TX teams were
looking for homes as the SWC was failing, largely instigated by the SMU
death penalty. There was a ton of
financial collateral damage from that and the league was going insolvent.
The Big 8 did not poach 4 teams and
destroy the SWC, the SWC was on it's way out and the Big 8 expanded to 12
by accepting 4 teams looking for a haven.
However, in the case of the PAC 10, they poached 2 teams, and tried to
poach 4 more Big 12 teams (TX, OK, TT, OSU) to make
a 16 team super conference, and was in dicussions with them. TX rejected
it, so the others did also. Nevertheless,the concept of
poaching for tv revenue was now on the table, and now we have the
ridiculously large conferences with ridiculous members from a geographicly.. >>
And, as I said, I consider it ironic and karma that the PAC12 that is to
blame for this is now having their premier teams poached and their dreams of >> being a super conference going down the drain. Too bad, since I grew up a PAC 8 fan.
I can buy that interpretation. I was more thinking that the SEC got the >superconference ball rolling when they added Arkie and SC so they could do >divisions and a championship game. That started the scramble to get bigger >for TV money which is still ongoing and resulting in the absurd conference >alignments we are seeing today.
PSU to the B1G is in my list because it was a surprise move that had people >scratch their heads.
There's nothing in sight.Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big 10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said "today is about football" was telling.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
If it can talk a few of the San Diego States and Boise States out west into joining, it can still hang on as a football conference.
I think the key team here is Stanford - if it leaves, the others might as well start making phone calls; the best it could hope for is to become a Patriot-style conference where your decent football teams play in another conference.
("But Stanford won't leave without Cal" - why? Explain how being in two different conferences doesn't stop Florida-Florida State and Georgia-Georgia Tech from happening every season.)
On 7/27/2023 12:36 PM, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:There's nothing in sight.
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big 10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said "today is about football" was telling.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
If it can talk a few of the San Diego States and Boise States out west into joining, it can still hang on as a football conference.These new alignments are really wonderful.
I think the key team here is Stanford - if it leaves, the others might as well start making phone calls; the best it could hope for is to become a Patriot-style conference where your decent football teams play in another conference.
("But Stanford won't leave without Cal" - why? Explain how being in two different conferences doesn't stop Florida-Florida State and Georgia-Georgia Tech from happening every season.)
Here are some compelling games:
Texas at Vandy
Maryland at USC
Okie at South Carolina
USC at Rutgers
But they still can't compare to WVU at Iowa st.
<joe@mich.com> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner <darkstar7646@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and
not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big
10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said
"today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.
Was it though? IMO it all started with Penn State to the B1G and Arkansas
and South Carolina to the SEC.
And the first poaching of the modern era was the Big 8 destroying the SWC. The PAC didn’t poach anyone until 15 years after that.
On 2023-07-27, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
<j...@mich.com> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner <darkst...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and >>>> not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big >>>> 10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said >>>> "today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.
Was it though? IMO it all started with Penn State to the B1G and Arkansas and South Carolina to the SEC.Penn St. was an independent, right?
On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 9:27:49 AM UTC-4, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
On 2023-07-27, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
<j...@mich.com> wrote:Penn St. was an independent, right?
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner <darkst...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and >> >>>> not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big
10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said >> >>>> "today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.
Was it though? IMO it all started with Penn State to the B1G and Arkansas >> > and South Carolina to the SEC.
Independent in football; Atlantic Ten in everything else.
Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:49:43 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12 >>
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie
I think the Pac-9 has just inked a new TV deal.
https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/416/879/11879416.jpeg
On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 9:27:49 AM UTC-4, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
On 2023-07-27, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
<j...@mich.com> wrote:Penn St. was an independent, right?
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner <darkst...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and >>>>>> not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big >>>>>> 10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said >>>>>> "today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.
Was it though? IMO it all started with Penn State to the B1G and Arkansas >>> and South Carolina to the SEC.
Independent in football; Atlantic Ten in everything else.
unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:49:43 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, >> liberal personality.” — Altie
I think the Pac-9 has just inked a new TV deal.
https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/416/879/11879416.jpeg
It may not look like much, but when it’s playing the undocumented mute button is disabled. Huge concession !
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:02:46 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:49:43 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie
I think the Pac-9 has just inked a new TV deal.
https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/416/879/11879416.jpeg
It may not look like much, but when it’s playing the undocumented mute button is disabled. Huge concession !Here's Kliavkoff's reaction:
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjKNSgOiWDk
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:39:24 PM UTC-7, unclejr wrote:off when they heard where the deal was at.
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:02:46 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:49:43 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie
I think the Pac-9 has just inked a new TV deal.
https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/416/879/11879416.jpeg
It may not look like much, but when it’s playing the undocumented mute button is disabled. Huge concession !Here's Kliavkoff's reaction:
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjKNSgOiWDkoh that's sad. But true. What a horrible deal. Nice going, Kliavkoff. There was a chance, with San Diego State and SMU, to get something better but your delay blew that chance. Or maybe you knew that this was going to be sad and those schools backed
Prediction: some schools will leave before the vote.
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 6:28:08 PM UTC-7, unclejr wrote:backed off when they heard where the deal was at.
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:09:21 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:39:24 PM UTC-7, unclejr wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:02:46 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:49:43 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie
I think the Pac-9 has just inked a new TV deal.
https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/416/879/11879416.jpeg
It may not look like much, but when it’s playing the undocumented muteHere's Kliavkoff's reaction:
button is disabled. Huge concession !
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjKNSgOiWDkoh that's sad. But true. What a horrible deal. Nice going, Kliavkoff. There was a chance, with San Diego State and SMU, to get something better but your delay blew that chance. Or maybe you knew that this was going to be sad and those schools
the talk is B1G but I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon and Washington end up in the Big 12.Prediction: some schools will leave before the vote.Where do you think Oregon is going to land?
It's also possible that a new conference will be formed, schools to be determined.
It's also possible that a new conference will be formed, schools to be determined.
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:09:21 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:off when they heard where the deal was at.
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:39:24 PM UTC-7, unclejr wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:02:46 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:49:43 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie
I think the Pac-9 has just inked a new TV deal.
https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/416/879/11879416.jpeg
It may not look like much, but when it’s playing the undocumented muteHere's Kliavkoff's reaction:
button is disabled. Huge concession !
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjKNSgOiWDkoh that's sad. But true. What a horrible deal. Nice going, Kliavkoff. There was a chance, with San Diego State and SMU, to get something better but your delay blew that chance. Or maybe you knew that this was going to be sad and those schools backed
Prediction: some schools will leave before the vote.Where do you think Oregon is going to land?
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:29:25 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:backed off when they heard where the deal was at.
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 6:28:08 PM UTC-7, unclejr wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:09:21 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:39:24 PM UTC-7, unclejr wrote:
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:02:46 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:49:43 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie
I think the Pac-9 has just inked a new TV deal.
https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/416/879/11879416.jpeg
It may not look like much, but when it’s playing the undocumented muteHere's Kliavkoff's reaction:
button is disabled. Huge concession !
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjKNSgOiWDkoh that's sad. But true. What a horrible deal. Nice going, Kliavkoff. There was a chance, with San Diego State and SMU, to get something better but your delay blew that chance. Or maybe you knew that this was going to be sad and those schools
the talk is B1G but I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon and Washington end up in the Big 12.Prediction: some schools will leave before the vote.Where do you think Oregon is going to land?
It's also possible that a new conference will be formed, schools to be determined.I don't think Oregon possesses the academic chops to be admitted to the B1G. Washington does though.
Where do you think Oregon is going to land?the talk is B1G but I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon and Washington end up in the Big 12.
It's also possible that a new conference will be formed, schools to be determined.
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:02:46 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:49:43 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:It may not look like much, but when it’s playing the undocumented mute
Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12 >>>>
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, >>>> liberal personality.” — Altie
I think the Pac-9 has just inked a new TV deal.
https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/416/879/11879416.jpeg
button is disabled. Huge concession !
--
“I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
liberal personality.” — Altie
Here's Kliavkoff's reaction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjKNSgOiWDk
<j...@mich.com> wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner <darkst...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all
Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and >>> not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big
10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said >>> "today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.
No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and UCLA jumped.
the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.
Was it though? IMO it all started with Penn State to the B1G and Arkansas and South Carolina to the SEC.
And the first poaching of the modern era was the Big 8 destroying the SWC. The PAC didn’t poach anyone until 15 years after that.
Where do you think Oregon is going to land?the talk is B1G but I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon and Washington end up in the Big 12.
It's also possible that a new conference will be formed, schools to be determined.Depends on what you mean by "new conference." It could just be that, say, the Big 12 or Pac-whatever-it-is-this-week just accepts new teams and comes up with a more appropriate name accordingly.
I suppose a full-on Big 12/Pac-12 merger could be a "new conference" if neither existing conference would really be in control of it, but I don't see that happening.
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 6:26:41 AM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
Where do you think Oregon is going to land?the talk is B1G but I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon and Washington end up in the Big 12.
It's also possible that a new conference will be formed, schools to be determined.Depends on what you mean by "new conference." It could just be that, say, the Big 12 or Pac-whatever-it-is-this-week just accepts new teams and comes up with a more appropriate name accordingly.
I suppose a full-on Big 12/Pac-12 merger could be a "new conference" if neither existing conference would really be in control of it, but I don't see that happening.here's an interesting article from today.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/third-party-influence-may-soon-shake-foundation-of-college-football-impacting-conferences-programs/
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 6:26:41 AM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
Depends on what you mean by "new conference." It could just be that,Where do you think Oregon is going to land?the talk is B1G but I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon and Washington
end up in the Big 12.
It's also possible that a new conference will be formed, schools to be determined.
say, the Big 12 or Pac-whatever-it-is-this-week just accepts new teams
and comes up with a more appropriate name accordingly.
I suppose a full-on Big 12/Pac-12 merger could be a "new conference" if
neither existing conference would really be in control of it, but I
don't see that happening.
here's an interesting article from today.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/third-party-influence-may-soon-shake-foundation-of-college-football-impacting-conferences-programs/
Colorado the first rat off the sinking ship.
Oregon and Washington to the Big 10 shortly thereafter.
According to this.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/colorado-leaving-pac-12-to-join-big-12
Eric Ramon <ramon...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 6:26:41 AM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
Depends on what you mean by "new conference." It could just be that,Where do you think Oregon is going to land?the talk is B1G but I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon and Washington
end up in the Big 12.
It's also possible that a new conference will be formed, schools to be determined.
say, the Big 12 or Pac-whatever-it-is-this-week just accepts new teams
and comes up with a more appropriate name accordingly.
I suppose a full-on Big 12/Pac-12 merger could be a "new conference" if >> neither existing conference would really be in control of it, but I
don't see that happening.
here's an interesting article from today.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/third-party-influence-may-soon-shake-foundation-of-college-football-impacting-conferences-programs/
Speaking of possible private equity involvement:
https://www.sportico.com/business/finance/2023/florida-state-athletics-jpmorgan-private-equity-funding-acc-1234733152/
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