• The Biden boom just keeps rolling along

    From xyzzy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 21:46:21 2023
    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record
    in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)

    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie

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  • From leonard hofstatdter@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Jul 25 18:08:01 2023
    On 7/25/2023 4:46 PM, xyzzy wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record
    in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    Just curious, why does JB get credit?

    Did he start these businesses, or just allow tax abatement infinitum?

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to leonard hofstatdter on Wed Jul 26 13:11:12 2023
    leonard hofstatdter <n.nut@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 7/25/2023 4:46 PM, xyzzy wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record >> in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    Just curious, why does JB get credit?

    Did he start these businesses, or just allow tax abatement infinitum?


    How much credit or blame any President gets is always debatable. But the
    data shows the economy is doing very well despite politically motivated
    doom and gloom from the right.

    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie

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  • From floaterjr@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Wed Jul 26 07:58:41 2023
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:11:18 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    leonard hofstatdter <n....@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 7/25/2023 4:46 PM, xyzzy wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record
    in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    Just curious, why does JB get credit?

    Did he start these businesses, or just allow tax abatement infinitum?

    How much credit or blame any President gets is always debatable. But the data shows the economy is doing very well despite politically motivated
    doom and gloom from the right.
    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie
    I don't know about everyone else but I continue to pay more for all those things I buy on a regular basis. Everything from food, to household items, hardware items, as well as fuel and utilities. Everytime I hear Bidenomics on the news all that reminds
    me of is the 17 to 50 million the Biden family received through Hunter and Joe's foreign adventure. And yes it is much more noticeable on a fixed income.

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Wed Jul 26 17:38:44 2023
    floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:11:18/AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    leonard hofstatdter <n....@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 7/25/2023 4:46 PM, xyzzy wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?sF&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA


    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record >>>> in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    Just curious, why does JB get credit?

    Did he start these businesses, or just allow tax abatement infinitum?

    How much credit or blame any President gets is always debatable. But the
    data shows the economy is doing very well despite politically motivated
    doom and gloom from the right.
    --
    I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
    liberal personality.  Altie
    I don't know about everyone else but I continue to pay more for all those things I buy on a regular basis. Everything from food, to household
    items, hardware items, as well as fuel and utilities. Everytime I hear Bidenomics on the news all that reminds me of is the 17 to 50 million the Biden family received through Hunter and Joe's foreign adventure. And yes
    it is much more noticeable on a fixed income.

    Sorry your income is not keeping up. But you are not typical:

    https://twitter.com/arindube/status/1684244062860374016?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    Tl;dr: median real wage in June '23 was not only higher than pre-pandemic level, but about where it would be based on pre-pandemic trends.

    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Wed Jul 26 16:01:36 2023
    On 7/26/2023 10:58 AM, floaterjr wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:11:18 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    leonard hofstatdter <n....@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 7/25/2023 4:46 PM, xyzzy wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record >>>> in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    Just curious, why does JB get credit?

    Did he start these businesses, or just allow tax abatement infinitum?

    How much credit or blame any President gets is always debatable. But the
    data shows the economy is doing very well despite politically motivated
    doom and gloom from the right.
    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
    liberal personality.” — Altie
    I don't know about everyone else but I continue to pay more for all those things I buy on a regular basis. Everything from food, to household items, hardware items, as well as fuel and utilities. Everytime I hear Bidenomics on the news all that
    reminds me of is the 17 to 50 million the Biden family received through Hunter and Joe's foreign adventure. And yes it is much more noticeable on a fixed income.

    It reminds me that I dropped a substantial amount in the market in 2021
    and 22 and that even though it's coming back up, it still has a long way
    to go to back even. Plus, the decreased purchasing power of those
    invested bucks. And, of course, all the problems listed above.

    Ken
    --
    ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen

    Слава Україні та НАТО

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  • From RoddyMcCorley@21:1/5 to floaterjr on Wed Jul 26 17:23:25 2023
    On 7/26/2023 10:58 AM, floaterjr wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:11:18 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    leonard hofstatdter <n....@comcast.net> wrote:

    I don't know about everyone else but I continue to pay more for all those things I buy on a regular basis. Everything from food, to household items, hardware items, as well as fuel and utilities. Everytime I hear Bidenomics on the news all that
    reminds me of is the 17 to 50 million the Biden family received through Hunter and Joe's foreign adventure. And yes it is much more noticeable on a fixed income.

    Yeah, I feel it too on a fixed income. Some of it is inflation and some
    of it is profiteering. It is a good opportunity for businesses to raise
    prices substantially more than the increases passed on to them by their suppliers.

    I like Progresso soups. My local supermarket (Giant, which is not high
    end) sells them for $4.49 a can, up about $2.00 from about two years
    ago. Dollar General sells them for $2.50 while WalMart sells them for
    $2.19 a can. Why the disparity? There costs should be pretty much the same.

    --
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In
    practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

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  • From RoddyMcCorley@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Wed Jul 26 17:29:47 2023
    On 7/26/2023 4:01 PM, Ken Olson wrote:

    It reminds me that I dropped a substantial amount in the market in 2021
    and 22 and that even though it's coming back up, it still has a long way
    to go to back even.  Plus, the decreased purchasing power of those
    invested bucks.  And, of course, all the problems listed above.

    Ken

    You need a better investment advisor. I'm about even from where my
    accounts were at the start of the pandemic and that includes nearly
    three years of RMDs. I took advantage of some of the market corrections
    and bought more of what I already owned. But I do have some "stinkers"
    like 3M, T, and V. But they all pay decent dividends.

    --
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In
    practice, there is." Ruben Goldberg

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Thu Jul 27 01:36:49 2023
    On 2023-07-26, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    floaterjr <gpgmga@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:11:18/AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    leonard hofstatdter <n....@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 7/25/2023 4:46 PM, xyzzy wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?sF&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA


    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record
    in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    Just curious, why does JB get credit?

    Did he start these businesses, or just allow tax abatement infinitum?

    How much credit or blame any President gets is always debatable. But the >>> data shows the economy is doing very well despite politically motivated
    doom and gloom from the right.
    --
    I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian,
    liberal personality.  Altie
    I don't know about everyone else but I continue to pay more for all those
    things I buy on a regular basis. Everything from food, to household
    items, hardware items, as well as fuel and utilities. Everytime I hear
    Bidenomics on the news all that reminds me of is the 17 to 50 million the
    Biden family received through Hunter and Joe's foreign adventure. And yes
    it is much more noticeable on a fixed income.

    Sorry your income is not keeping up. But you are not typical:

    https://twitter.com/arindube/status/1684244062860374016?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    Tl;dr: median real wage in June '23 was not only higher than pre-pandemic level, but about where it would be based on pre-pandemic trends.


    Inflation-adjusted wages have been going down after several years of
    increases.


    --
    The tenor's voice is spoilt by affectation,
    And for the bass, the beast can only bellow;
    In fact, he had no singing education,
    An ignorant, noteless, timeless, tuneless fellow. -- Lord Byron

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to RoddyMcCorley on Wed Jul 26 21:55:25 2023
    On 7/26/2023 5:29 PM, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
    On 7/26/2023 4:01 PM, Ken Olson wrote:

    It reminds me that I dropped a substantial amount in the market in
    2021 and 22 and that even though it's coming back up, it still has a
    long way to go to back even.  Plus, the decreased purchasing power of
    those invested bucks.  And, of course, all the problems listed above.

    Ken

    You need a better investment advisor. I'm about even from where my
    accounts were at the start of the pandemic and that includes nearly
    three years of RMDs. I took advantage of some of the market corrections
    and bought more of what I already owned. But I do have some "stinkers"
    like 3M, T, and V. But they all pay decent dividends.


    Mine are all 401(k) and 457 accounts. They're invested in mutual funds,
    with a tendency toward index funds. I don't believe any of them are
    dividend producing, but if they are they buy shares.

    Ken

    --
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    Слава Україні та НАТО

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to leonard hofstatdter on Thu Jul 27 01:35:56 2023
    On 2023-07-25, leonard hofstatdter <n.nut@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 7/25/2023 4:46 PM, xyzzy wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record >> in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    Just curious, why does JB get credit?

    Did he start these businesses, or just allow tax abatement infinitum?

    Because all the businesses the Democrats shut down with the idiotic
    lockdown are opening back up. We will have some labor problems down the
    road as the learning lost from teachers unions and Democratic governors shutting down schools shows up.

    We also benefit as a country from the reshoring that is happening
    in anticipation of the coming Chinese problems. Basically, we in the
    U.S. are just fortunate that we are singularly well-situated to weather
    the coming global changes.

    --
    Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before
    it became one of the most admired virtues under its new name,
    'social justice'. -- Thomas Sowell

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Thu Jul 27 12:55:10 2023
    xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record
    in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    And now we learn that the recession has been postponed yet again. Quick,
    hold another Hunter Biden hearing to avoid talking about the economy.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/27/economy/second-quarter-gdp

    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie

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  • From leonard hofstatdter@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Thu Jul 27 08:16:28 2023
    On 7/26/2023 8:35 PM, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
    On 2023-07-25, leonard hofstatdter <n.nut@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 7/25/2023 4:46 PM, xyzzy wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record >>> in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    Just curious, why does JB get credit?

    Did he start these businesses, or just allow tax abatement infinitum?

    Because all the businesses the Democrats shut down with the idiotic
    lockdown are opening back up. We will have some labor problems down the
    road as the learning lost from teachers unions and Democratic governors shutting down schools shows up.

    We also benefit as a country from the reshoring that is happening
    in anticipation of the coming Chinese problems. Basically, we in the
    U.S. are just fortunate that we are singularly well-situated to weather
    the coming global changes.



    Until (insert hackers country of choice) shuts down our internet, power
    grid, etc.......

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Thu Jul 27 14:46:21 2023
    On 7/27/2023 2:16 PM, xyzzy wrote:
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-07-25, leonard hofstatdter <n.nut@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 7/25/2023 4:46 PM, xyzzy wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record >>>> in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    Just curious, why does JB get credit?

    Did he start these businesses, or just allow tax abatement infinitum?

    Because all the businesses the Democrats shut down with the idiotic
    lockdown are opening back up.

    #republicansforgettingTrumpwaspresidentin2020
    Twitter.com/oopsRepublicans
    \
    That's why the Democratic Governors shut things down, so they could do
    economic damage and then blame it on Trump.
    Ken
    --
    ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen

    Слава Україні та НАТО

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Thu Jul 27 18:16:25 2023
    Con Reeder, unhyphenated American <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-07-25, leonard hofstatdter <n.nut@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 7/25/2023 4:46 PM, xyzzy wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record >>> in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    Just curious, why does JB get credit?

    Did he start these businesses, or just allow tax abatement infinitum?

    Because all the businesses the Democrats shut down with the idiotic
    lockdown are opening back up.

    #republicansforgettingTrumpwaspresidentin2020
    Twitter.com/oopsRepublicans

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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Mon Jul 31 13:24:34 2023
    On 2023-07-27, xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
    xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record >> in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    And now we learn that the recession has been postponed yet again. Quick,
    hold another Hunter Biden hearing to avoid talking about the economy.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/27/economy/second-quarter-gdp


    Real wages are dropping. Inflation is stubbornly high. Housing is tanking.

    To suggest that the Hunter Biden thing is a nothingburger like Russiagate
    is gaslighting of a high order. He is a criminal and the DOJ is trying to whitewash it. I don't think it's going to work, despite efforts like yours
    from the mainstream media.

    --
    Life may not be quite the party we hoped for, but while we
    are here we might as well dance. -- Anonymous

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  • From unclejr@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Mon Jul 31 07:02:08 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:24:39 AM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
    On 2023-07-27, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
    xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1683501924337737728?s=46&t=8JSx04y3Si-iAMMSSjqvqA

    New business formation in 2023 is on track to be the 2nd highest on record
    in the USA. (2nd only to 2021).

    **This is a big vote of confidence in the US economy**

    (Note: This is new businesses likely to hire workers)


    And now we learn that the recession has been postponed yet again. Quick, hold another Hunter Biden hearing to avoid talking about the economy.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/27/economy/second-quarter-gdp

    Real wages are dropping. Inflation is stubbornly high. Housing is tanking.

    To suggest that the Hunter Biden thing is a nothingburger like Russiagate
    is gaslighting of a high order. He is a criminal and the DOJ is trying to whitewash it. I don't think it's going to work, despite efforts like yours from the mainstream media.

    --
    Life may not be quite the party we hoped for, but while we
    are here we might as well dance. -- Anonymous

    You sound like an old crank. JFC, go outside. Try to enjoy life. You don't have many years left, bruh.

    Hope this helps.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American on Mon Jul 31 10:32:18 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 6:24:39 AM UTC-7, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:

    To suggest that the Hunter Biden thing is a nothingburger like Russiagate
    is gaslighting of a high order. He is a criminal and the DOJ is trying to whitewash it. I don't think it's going to work, despite efforts like yours from the mainstream media.

    The longer this goes, the more I like a Kamala Harris Presidency.

    NOW.

    Mike

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Mon Jul 31 15:38:54 2023
    On 7/31/2023 1:32 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 6:24:39 AM UTC-7, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:

    To suggest that the Hunter Biden thing is a nothingburger like Russiagate
    is gaslighting of a high order. He is a criminal and the DOJ is trying to
    whitewash it. I don't think it's going to work, despite efforts like yours >> from the mainstream media.

    The longer this goes, the more I like a Kamala Harris Presidency.

    NOW.

    Mike

    We could handle that until 2024. 18 or so months of mainly gridlock.
    Sometimes that's the best thing that can happen.

    Ken
    --
    ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen

    Слава Україні та НАТО

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Tue Aug 1 10:10:41 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 12:39:01 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

    We could handle that until 2024. 18 or so months of mainly gridlock. Sometimes that's the best thing that can happen.

    That's where you and I disagree, at least where your side stands on the matter.

    Mike

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