• Re: Solar/Wind Are The Champions My Friend

    From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Tue Jun 13 19:21:50 2023
    On 6/13/2023 6:59 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
    For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for more electricity generation than fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover point.

    solar power provided a record 14% of the EU’s electricity, from a record 27 TWh. That May total even beats the solar record set in the middle of summer, July, last year.

    This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity — 14%
    versus 10%.

    Wind power provided 17% (32 TWh) of the EU’s electricity in May. Clearly, that
    beats both of those other sources, but it’s not wind power’s record. Wind power’s best month ever was 23% (54 TWh).

    “The strong performance of wind and solar meant that EU coal generation fell
    to an all-time monthly low in May, with just 10% (20 TWh) of EU electricity coming from the most polluting source,” Ember writes. “The record-low coal
    generation in May was just below the previous record set during the pandemic lockdowns, when coal power generated slightly above 10% of EU electricity in April 2020. Fossil gas recorded the lowest share of generation since 2018 at just 15% of EU electricity during May.

    Crossover — Solar & Wind Power Producing More Electricity Than Fossil Fuels In EU. The European Union (EU)
    Clean Technica - June 11, 2023
    -- https://cleantechnica.com/2023/06/11/crossover-solar-wind-power-producing-more-electricity-than-fossil-fuels-in-eu/#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%20in,provides%20us%20with%20the%20news.

    Except for at night when the wind isn't blowing.
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  • From Con Reeder, unhyphenated American@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Wed Jun 14 11:04:31 2023
    On 2023-06-13, bruce bowser <bruce1.9bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
    For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for more electricity generation than fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover point.

    solar power provided a record 14% of the EU’s electricity, from a record 27 TWh. That May total even beats the solar record set in the middle of summer, July, last year.

    This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity — 14%
    versus 10%.

    At what cost? The highest electric prices in the world with some of the poorest stability.

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  • From joe@mich.com@21:1/5 to unhyphenated American" on Wed Jun 14 08:52:26 2023
    On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 11:04:31 -0000 (UTC), "Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com> wrote:

    On 2023-06-13, bruce bowser <bruce1.9bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
    For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for >> more electricity generation than fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two >> core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover >> point.

    solar power provided a record 14% of the EUs electricity, from a record 27 >> TWh. That May total even beats the solar record set in the middle of summer, >> July, last year.

    This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity 14%
    versus 10%.

    At what cost? The highest electric prices in the world with some of the poorest
    stability.

    Not to mention that it won't do a damn thing to stop global warming if you believe geologic history.
    We could pretend the earth is a pro-Russian maga Trump RNC lacky and is lying to us. I think some already are, actually.

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 14 13:22:32 2023
    For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for more electricity generation than fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover point.

    This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity — 14%
    versus 10%.
    Wind power provided 17% (32 TWh) of the EU’s electricity
    Fossil gas recorded the lowest share of generation since 2018 at
    just 15% of EU electricity during May.

    Time for some math:
    14% is solar
    17% is wind
    10% is coal
    15% is gas
    That's only 56% of the total
    I assume quite a bit of the rest is nuclear, which the USA is not about to get any more of any time soon. I still remember the commotion about Diablo Canyon; now I hear it will be shut down by the end of 2025.


    At what cost? The highest electric prices in the world with some of the poorest
    stability.

    If you want the solar/wind-types' answer to cost, toss a coin
    Heads: "The cost is, saving the planet"
    Tails: "If there's a cost, then obviously we're not taxing the rich enough"

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Wed Jun 14 21:25:01 2023
    The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.del.grande@gmail.com> wrote:
    For the first time in history, solar power and wind power have combined for >> more electricity generation than fossil fuels in the EU. Last month, the two >> core renewables of the new clean energy era achieved that historic crossover >> point.

    This is also the first time that solar electricity beat coal electricity — 14%
    versus 10%.
    Wind power provided 17% (32 TWh) of the EU’s electricity
    Fossil gas recorded the lowest share of generation since 2018 at
    just 15% of EU electricity during May.

    Time for some math:
    14% is solar
    17% is wind
    10% is coal
    15% is gas
    That's only 56% of the total
    I assume quite a bit of the rest is nuclear, which the USA is not about
    to get any more of any time soon. I still remember the commotion about
    Diablo Canyon; now I hear it will be shut down by the end of 2025.

    The stats you’re quoting are for the EU, not the US.

    Our biggest energy source, and it isn’t even close, is gas.

    https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=55239

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  • From The NOTBCS Guy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 14 16:27:17 2023
    Time for some math:
    14% is solar
    17% is wind
    10% is coal
    15% is gas
    That's only 56% of the total
    I assume quite a bit of the rest is nuclear, which the USA is not about
    to get any more of any time soon. I still remember the commotion about Diablo Canyon; now I hear it will be shut down by the end of 2025.
    The stats you’re quoting are for the EU, not the US.

    I understand that. My point is, solar and wind "appear" to be winning in Europe, but only because they remain bit players. USA is not going to be in a similar situation where we can depend on nuclear power.

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to The NOTBCS Guy on Wed Jun 14 22:04:25 2023
    On 6/14/2023 7:27 PM, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:
    Time for some math:
    14% is solar
    17% is wind
    10% is coal
    15% is gas
    That's only 56% of the total
    I assume quite a bit of the rest is nuclear, which the USA is not about
    to get any more of any time soon. I still remember the commotion about
    Diablo Canyon; now I hear it will be shut down by the end of 2025.
    The stats you’re quoting are for the EU, not the US.

    I understand that. My point is, solar and wind "appear" to be winning in Europe, but only because they remain bit players. USA is not going to be in a similar situation where we can depend on nuclear power.

    Which is ironic, because nuclear power is about the cleanest constant
    power source we have.
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