https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/37812363/rory-mcilroy-hopes-liv-goes-away-confidence-commishgames with it by saying the PGA tour still controls the most board seats in the new tour and stuff like that, but the bottom line is this saudi regime is the exclusive funder of the new tour and since they are the ones funding it all they are the ones
"Like, I hate LIV. I hope it goes away, and I would fully expect that it does. I think that's where the distinction here is. This is the PGA Tour, the DP World Tour and the PIF -- very different from LIV."
I mean rory, LIV is just a name.....the point is that it's the phony golf league propped up artificially by the saudi investment fund, and now that same regime/investment fund is now the exclusive investor(ie funder) of the new tour. You can play
Rory somehow spinning this as the pga tour winning out over LIV is ridiculous imo.
y
I'm assuming the PIF reached out to him and made a promise on the down low to throw a bag of money his way to say stuff like this lol.....
I'm assuming the PIF reached out to him and made a promise on the down low to throw a bag of money his way to say stuff like this lol.....
On 6/7/2023 2:32 PM, michael anderson wrote:
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/37812363/rory-mcilroy-hopes-liv-goes-away-confidence-commish
"Like, I hate LIV. I hope it goes away, and I would fully expect that it
does. I think that's where the distinction here is. This is the PGA
Tour, the DP World Tour and the PIF -- very different from LIV."
I mean rory, LIV is just a name.....the point is that it's the phony
golf league propped up artificially by the saudi investment fund, and
now that same regime/investment fund is now the exclusive investor(ie
funder) of the new tour. You can play games with it by saying the PGA
tour still controls the most board seats in the new tour and stuff like
that, but the bottom line is this saudi regime is the exclusive funder
of the new tour and since they are the ones funding it all they are the
ones with the real power and will be the driving force behind it. I
mean you can vote all your want on things, but whoever controls the
purse strings(and that will be the saudis) have the real power.......
Rory somehow spinning this as the pga tour winning out over LIV is ridiculous imo.
y
I'm assuming the PIF reached out to him and made a promise on the down
low to throw a bag of money his way to say stuff like this lol.....
Whenever I hear the name Rory, I automatically think Gallagher.
Ken Olson <kol...@freedomnet.org> wrote:
On 6/7/2023 2:32 PM, michael anderson wrote:
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/37812363/rory-mcilroy-hopes-liv-goes-away-confidence-commish
"Like, I hate LIV. I hope it goes away, and I would fully expect that it >> does. I think that's where the distinction here is. This is the PGA
Tour, the DP World Tour and the PIF -- very different from LIV."
I mean rory, LIV is just a name.....the point is that it's the phony
golf league propped up artificially by the saudi investment fund, and
now that same regime/investment fund is now the exclusive investor(ie
funder) of the new tour. You can play games with it by saying the PGA
tour still controls the most board seats in the new tour and stuff like >> that, but the bottom line is this saudi regime is the exclusive funder
of the new tour and since they are the ones funding it all they are the >> ones with the real power and will be the driving force behind it. I
mean you can vote all your want on things, but whoever controls the
purse strings(and that will be the saudis) have the real power.......
Rory somehow spinning this as the pga tour winning out over LIV is ridiculous imo.
y
I'm assuming the PIF reached out to him and made a promise on the down
low to throw a bag of money his way to say stuff like this lol.....
Whenever I hear the name Rory, I automatically think Gallagher.I think of Gilmore Girls.
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On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 11:33:04 AM UTC-7, michael anderson wrote:
I'm assuming the PIF reached out to him and made a promise on the down low to throw a bag of money his way to say stuff like this lol.....I suspect the big money was offered to Monahan. I dunno. I think Khashoggi is still cut up into little pieces.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/37812363/rory-mcilroy-hopes-liv-goes-away-confidence-commishwith it by saying the PGA tour still controls the most board seats in the new tour and stuff like that, but the bottom line is this saudi regime is the exclusive funder of the new tour and since they are the ones funding it all they are the ones with the
"Like, I hate LIV. I hope it goes away, and I would fully expect that it does. I think that's where the distinction here is. This is the PGA Tour, the DP World Tour and the PIF -- very different from LIV."
I mean rory, LIV is just a name.....the point is that it's the phony golf league propped up artificially by the saudi investment fund, and now that same regime/investment fund is now the exclusive investor(ie funder) of the new tour. You can play games
Rory somehow spinning this as the pga tour winning out over LIV is ridiculous imo.
I'm assuming the PIF reached out to him and made a promise on the down low to throw a bag of money his way to say stuff like this lol.....
If the question is PGA vs LIV as a product, LIV is disappearing. And that’s good thing. It’s an absurd product.
As for money sources, the Saudis can now more broadly sports wash and they don’t have to do it by finding s stupid product.
The losers here are the golfers that didn’t take the direct free payout from the Saudis when they could. But who knows how much of that was upfront and how much might disappear with the end of LIV.
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:33:04 PM UTC-5, michael anderson wrote:games with it by saying the PGA tour still controls the most board seats in the new tour and stuff like that, but the bottom line is this saudi regime is the exclusive funder of the new tour and since they are the ones funding it all they are the ones
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/37812363/rory-mcilroy-hopes-liv-goes-away-confidence-commish
"Like, I hate LIV. I hope it goes away, and I would fully expect that it does. I think that's where the distinction here is. This is the PGA Tour, the DP World Tour and the PIF -- very different from LIV."
I mean rory, LIV is just a name.....the point is that it's the phony golf league propped up artificially by the saudi investment fund, and now that same regime/investment fund is now the exclusive investor(ie funder) of the new tour. You can play
Rory somehow spinning this as the pga tour winning out over LIV is ridiculous imo.
I'm assuming the PIF reached out to him and made a promise on the down low to throw a bag of money his way to say stuff like this lol.....If the question is PGA vs LIV as a product, LIV is disappearing. And that’s good thing. It’s an absurd product.
As for money sources, the Saudis can now more broadly sports wash and they don’t have to do it by finding s stupid product.
The losers here are the golfers that didn’t take the direct free payout from the Saudis when they could. But who knows how much of that was upfront and how much might disappear with the end of LIV.
As for me, I don’t watch much golf anyway. So I’ll just play more and watch even less and do whatever I can to support the golfers that didn’t sell out.
but will the new venture(and it's described more like a merger) even be called the pga tour? The espn article I read said the name is still tbd.......if thats the case, one could say the pga is ending as well. I agree that nobody cares about team golf,but monohan even made it a point to say that the new venture will incorporate elements of that.......
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 4:44:15 PM UTC-5, michael anderson wrote:games with it by saying the PGA tour still controls the most board seats in the new tour and stuff like that, but the bottom line is this saudi regime is the exclusive funder of the new tour and since they are the ones funding it all they are the ones
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:35:28 AM UTC-5, TimV wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:33:04 PM UTC-5, michael anderson wrote: >>>> https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/37812363/rory-mcilroy-hopes-liv-goes-away-confidence-commish
"Like, I hate LIV. I hope it goes away, and I would fully expect that it does. I think that's where the distinction here is. This is the PGA Tour, the DP World Tour and the PIF -- very different from LIV."
I mean rory, LIV is just a name.....the point is that it's the phony golf league propped up artificially by the saudi investment fund, and now that same regime/investment fund is now the exclusive investor(ie funder) of the new tour. You can play
but monohan even made it a point to say that the new venture will incorporate elements of that.......but will the new venture(and it's described more like a merger) even be called the pga tour? The espn article I read said the name is still tbd.......if thats the case, one could say the pga is ending as well. I agree that nobody cares about team golf,If the question is PGA vs LIV as a product, LIV is disappearing. And that’s good thing. It’s an absurd product.
Rory somehow spinning this as the pga tour winning out over LIV is ridiculous imo.
I'm assuming the PIF reached out to him and made a promise on the down low to throw a bag of money his way to say stuff like this lol.....
As for money sources, the Saudis can now more broadly sports wash and they don’t have to do it by finding s stupid product.
The losers here are the golfers that didn’t take the direct free payout from the Saudis when they could. But who knows how much of that was upfront and how much might disappear with the end of LIV.
As for me, I don’t watch much golf anyway. So I’ll just play more and watch even less and do whatever I can to support the golfers that didn’t sell out.
tournament structure than the PGA tour....
Now the pga tour will still exist as a non-profit and it sounds like they will keep the name for that, but the main thing here(a professional golfing league) will be for profit and under a different name and it sounds like under different rules and
The people who turned down LIV money feel they did the right thing regardless. How will they balance the books between the jumpers and the stayers will be interesting but they'll find a way when they work the deal for players to return.
Prize money will double again and the players will have a short memory. There's also talk of the players unionizing for what's that's worth.
All I want to know and what nobody is talking about is what Greg Norman's role will be going forward. Hopefully we never hear from him again.
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:35:28 AM UTC-5, TimV wrote:games with it by saying the PGA tour still controls the most board seats in the new tour and stuff like that, but the bottom line is this saudi regime is the exclusive funder of the new tour and since they are the ones funding it all they are the ones
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:33:04 PM UTC-5, michael anderson wrote:
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/37812363/rory-mcilroy-hopes-liv-goes-away-confidence-commish
"Like, I hate LIV. I hope it goes away, and I would fully expect that it does. I think that's where the distinction here is. This is the PGA Tour, the DP World Tour and the PIF -- very different from LIV."
I mean rory, LIV is just a name.....the point is that it's the phony golf league propped up artificially by the saudi investment fund, and now that same regime/investment fund is now the exclusive investor(ie funder) of the new tour. You can play
but monohan even made it a point to say that the new venture will incorporate elements of that.......Rory somehow spinning this as the pga tour winning out over LIV is ridiculous imo.
I'm assuming the PIF reached out to him and made a promise on the down low to throw a bag of money his way to say stuff like this lol.....If the question is PGA vs LIV as a product, LIV is disappearing. And that’s good thing. It’s an absurd product.
As for money sources, the Saudis can now more broadly sports wash and they don’t have to do it by finding s stupid product.
The losers here are the golfers that didn’t take the direct free payout from the Saudis when they could. But who knows how much of that was upfront and how much might disappear with the end of LIV.
As for me, I don’t watch much golf anyway. So I’ll just play more and watch even less and do whatever I can to support the golfers that didn’t sell out.but will the new venture(and it's described more like a merger) even be called the pga tour? The espn article I read said the name is still tbd.......if thats the case, one could say the pga is ending as well. I agree that nobody cares about team golf,
Now the pga tour will still exist as a non-profit and it sounds like they will keep the name for that, but the main thing here(a professional golfing league) will be for profit and under a different name and it sounds like under different rules andtournament structure than the PGA tour....
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