The organization that writes the rules for high school basketball has just joined the rest of the world outside of the NCAA men in getting rid of 1-and-1s; from now on, fouls are 2 shots beginning with the fifth foul of each quarter. This pretty much
leaves the NCAA men as the only organization that still has 1-and-1s, just as it is pretty much the only one that still has halves instead of quarters.

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The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.del.grande@gmail.com> wrote:

The organization that writes the rules for high school basketball has
just joined the rest of the world outside of the NCAA men in getting rid
of 1-and-1s; from now on, fouls are 2 shots beginning with the fifth foul
of each quarter. This pretty much leaves the NCAA men as the only organization that still has 1-and-1s, just as it is pretty much the only
one that still has halves instead of quarters.

I like 1-1s. Why do all those other orgs hate them?

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On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 2:45:25 PM UTC-7, xyzzy wrote:

I like 1-1s. Why do all those other orgs hate them?

The idea is to increase penalties on accumulative fouls. The 1 and 1 is not seen as sufficient deterrent in that respect.

Mike

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On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 1:01:13 PM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:

The organization that writes the rules for high school basketball has just joined the rest of the world outside of the NCAA men in getting rid of 1-and-1s; from now on, fouls are 2 shots beginning with the fifth foul of each quarter. This pretty much

leaves the NCAA men as the only organization that still has 1-and-1s, just as it is pretty much the only one that still has halves instead of quarters.

Most groups realizing that the 1-and-1 is no real deterrent to fouling.

Mike (In many cases, neither is the 2, but there you go. If you really wanted to deter fouling, you'd consider the ol' "3 to make 2"...)

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I like 1-1s. Why do all those other orgs hate them?

My guess is, for the same reason a lot of coaches like them - because it turns the game into a "foul the worst free throw shooter and hope they miss the first shot" contest. A lot of them thought it was bad enough when they created the 2-shot bonus on
the 10th foul of the half. These coaches tend to hate the shot clock for a similar reason - four-corners is pretty much they only chance they have against taller, faster teams.

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On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 5:51:43 AM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:

I like 1-1s. Why do all those other orgs hate them?

My guess is, for the same reason a lot of coaches like them - because it turns the game into a "foul the worst free throw shooter and hope they miss the first shot" contest. A lot of them thought it was bad enough when they created the 2-shot bonus on

the 10th foul of the half. These coaches tend to hate the shot clock for a similar reason - four-corners is pretty much they only chance they have against taller, faster teams.

There was actually a game in Oklahoma this year at the high school level -- Oklahoma has not adopted the shot clock -- which ended something like 6-2, for the entire game!

Mike

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