Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic
sport?
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic sport?
no
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"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic event
too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this issue...
Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
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"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small
spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy is a
sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic event
too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this issue...
Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
By def'n sport is competitive
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"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small
spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy is
a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic event
too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this issue...
Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
By def'n sport is competitive
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
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"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic sport? >>>>no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small
spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy is a >>> sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic event
too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this issue...
Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for most people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic endeavors.
Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is definitely up to the >constraints of that sport. But I can play someone on Saturday and finish up
2 strokes and not be pleased about ball-striking and think I don't deserve >finishing ahead of the opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I could
all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I expected the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the infield or whatever. Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the object of ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play or anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such things.
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On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
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"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic
sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small
spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy
is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic
event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for most
people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic
endeavors.
So you are competing either against yourself or to see how you stack up
to others. Nothing wrong with competition but to claim sport can occur
withou competition ( formal or informal) is just incorrect
Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is definitely up to
the constraints of that sport. But I can play someone on Saturday and >>finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about ball-striking and think I >>don't deserve finishing ahead of the opponent(s) even though the numbers >>say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my
teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I could
all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I expected
the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the infield or
whatever.
Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the object of
ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play or
anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such things.
Sorry but by def'n sport is competitive. If/that you don't care about
winning or losing is irrelevant
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"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
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"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic sport? >>>>no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small
spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy is
a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic event
too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this issue...
Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
By def'n sport is competitive
Not if you are a mountaineer for instance. The only thing one engaging in sport should be completing against is one's own physical weaknesses.
I am not talking about what it is but what it should be.
It is currently neither healthy nor real fun.
Not unless your are a sports supplies manufacture corporation or a
betting agency owner.
Furthermore spectators do not get any health benefits from munching chips
and drinking beer either by sitting on the grand stand nor sitting front
of the teli watching selected and grossly overpaid sport stars ruining
their own health for the spectator's entertainment.
Professionalising sports is a disservice to people participating in sport!
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On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
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"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic
sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small >>>>> spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy
is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic
event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for most
people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic
endeavors.
So you are competing either against yourself or to see how you stack up
to others. Nothing wrong with competition but to claim sport can occur
withou competition ( formal or informal) is just incorrect
Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is definitely up to
the constraints of that sport. But I can play someone on Saturday and >>>finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about ball-striking and think I >>>don't deserve finishing ahead of the opponent(s) even though the numbers >>>say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my
teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I could
all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I expected
the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the infield or
whatever.
Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the object of
ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play or
anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such things.
Sorry but by def'n sport is competitive. If/that you don't care about
winning or losing is irrelevant
I have looked at different dictionary definitions of the word sport. Undoubtedly the Oxford dictionary does say sport is competitive.
However most other dictionaries available on-line don't.
Here is an example:
/"http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sport"/
On 21/08/2016 8:37 PM, Bradley H. Sherman wrote:
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic
sport?
WTF does this post have to do do with any of the "politics" newsgroups????????????
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic
sport?
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
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"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic sport? >>>>no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small
spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy is a >>> sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic event
too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this issue...
Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for most people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic
endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is
definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But I can play someone
on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about
ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing ahead of the
opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I could
all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I expected
the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the infield or whatever. Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the
object of ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play or anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such things.
B
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"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
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"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic sport? >>>>no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small
spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy is
a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic event
too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this issue...
Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
By def'n sport is competitive
Not if you are a mountaineer for instance. The only thing one engaging in sport should be completing against is one's own physical weaknesses.
I am not talking about what it is but what it should be.
It is currently neither healthy nor real fun.
Not unless your are a sports supplies manufacture corporation or a
betting agency owner.
Furthermore spectators do not get any health benefits from munching chips
and drinking beer either by sitting on the grand stand nor sitting front
of the teli watching selected and grossly overpaid sport stars ruining
their own health for the spectator's entertainment.
Professionalising sports is a disservice to people participating in sport!
A circus is a circus is a circus.
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"Bill" <Thunderbird-lyron@snkmail.com> wrote in message
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On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
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"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic
sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small >>>>> spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy
is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic
event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for most
people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic
endeavors.
So you are competing either against yourself or to see how you stack up
to others. Nothing wrong with competition but to claim sport can occur
withou competition ( formal or informal) is just incorrect
Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is definitely up to
the constraints of that sport. But I can play someone on Saturday and
finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about ball-striking and think I
don't deserve finishing ahead of the opponent(s) even though the numbers >>> say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my
teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I could
all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I expected
the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the infield or
whatever.
Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the object of
ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play or
anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such things.
Sorry but by def'n sport is competitive. If/that you don't care about
winning or losing is irrelevant
I have looked at different dictionary definitions of the word sport. Undoubtedly the Oxford dictionary does say sport is competitive.
However most other dictionaries available on-line don't.
Here is an example:^^^^^^^^^^^^^
/"http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sport"/
1.
a. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by
a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
b. often sports (used with a sing. verb) Such activities considered as a group: Sports is a good way for children to get exercise.
2.
a. A usually challenging activity undertaken for amusement: "the sport of trying to eat [a bratwurst] with anything fewer than four paper
napkins" (Jane Kramer).
b. Fun; amusement: balanced on the curb just for the sport of it.
3.
a. Mockery; jest: He made sport of his own looks.
b. An object of mockery, jest, or play: treated our interests as sport.
c. A joking mood or attitude: She made the remark in sport.
4.
a. One known for the manner of one's acceptance of rules, especially of a game, or of a difficult situation: a poor sport.
b. Informal A fair-minded person, especially one who accepts teasing or difficult situations well: Be a sport and show me where you caught those fish.
c. Informal A pleasant companion: was a real sport during the trip.
Please note that "often" does not mean "always" nor "exclusively"!
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but sport is
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"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic
sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small
spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy
is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic
event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for most
people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic
endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is
definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But I can play someone
on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about
ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing ahead of the
opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my
teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I could
all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I expected
the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the infield or
whatever. Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the
object of ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play
or anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such
things.
B
pretty much by definition competitive:
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
On 2016-08-21 5:12 PM, Ördög wrote:
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"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
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"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic
sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small
spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy
is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic
event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue...
Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
By def'n sport is competitive
Not if you are a mountaineer for instance. The only thing one engaging
in sport should be completing against is one's own physical weaknesses.
Mountaineering isn't a sport.
I am not talking about what it is but what it should be.
It is currently neither healthy nor real fun.
For you.
Not unless your are a sports supplies manufacture corporation or a
betting agency owner.
Furthermore spectators do not get any health benefits from munching
chips and drinking beer either by sitting on the grand stand nor
sitting front of the teli watching selected and grossly overpaid sport
stars ruining their own health for the spectator's entertainment.
Professionalising sports is a disservice to people participating in
sport!
A circus is a circus is a circus.
I'm sorry, but you're narrowing the discussion to sports played for the entertainment of OTHERS.
I play hockey 4-6 times a week all winter for MY entertainment and fun.
On 2016-08-21 5:25 PM, Ördög wrote:
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On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
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"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a
small spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf >>>>>> buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic
event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for
most people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic
endeavors.
So you are competing either against yourself or to see how you stack
up to others. Nothing wrong with competition but to claim sport can
occur withou competition ( formal or informal) is just incorrect
Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is definitely up to
the constraints of that sport. But I can play someone on Saturday and
finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about ball-striking and think
I don't deserve finishing ahead of the opponent(s) even though the
numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my
teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I
could all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I
expected the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the
infield or whatever.
Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the object of
ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play or
anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such
things.
Sorry but by def'n sport is competitive. If/that you don't care about
winning or losing is irrelevant
I have looked at different dictionary definitions of the word sport.
Undoubtedly the Oxford dictionary does say sport is competitive.
However most other dictionaries available on-line don't.
And the Oxford still wins.
Here is an example:^^^^^^^^^^^^^
/"http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sport"/
1.
a. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed
by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
b. often sports (used with a sing. verb) Such activities considered as
a group: Sports is a good way for children to get exercise.
2.
a. A usually challenging activity undertaken for amusement: "the sport
of trying to eat [a bratwurst] with anything fewer than four paper
napkins" (Jane Kramer).
b. Fun; amusement: balanced on the curb just for the sport of it.
3.
a. Mockery; jest: He made sport of his own looks.
b. An object of mockery, jest, or play: treated our interests as sport.
c. A joking mood or attitude: She made the remark in sport.
4.
a. One known for the manner of one's acceptance of rules, especially of
a game, or of a difficult situation: a poor sport.
b. Informal A fair-minded person, especially one who accepts teasing or
difficult situations well: Be a sport and show me where you caught
those fish.
c. Informal A pleasant companion: was a real sport during the trip.
Please note that "often" does not mean "always" nor "exclusively"!
The freedictionary? Really?
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On 2016-08-21 5:25 PM, Ördög wrote:
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On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
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"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a
small spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf >>>>>>> buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic >>>>>>> event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for
most people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic >>>>> endeavors.
So you are competing either against yourself or to see how you stack
up to others. Nothing wrong with competition but to claim sport can
occur withou competition ( formal or informal) is just incorrect
Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is definitely up to >>>>> the constraints of that sport. But I can play someone on Saturday and >>>>> finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about ball-striking and think >>>>> I don't deserve finishing ahead of the opponent(s) even though the
numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my >>>>> teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I
could all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I
expected the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the
infield or whatever.
Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the object of >>>>> ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play or
anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such
things.
Sorry but by def'n sport is competitive. If/that you don't care about
winning or losing is irrelevant
I have looked at different dictionary definitions of the word sport.
Undoubtedly the Oxford dictionary does say sport is competitive.
However most other dictionaries available on-line don't.
And the Oxford still wins.
So you say...
Here is an example:^^^^^^^^^^^^^
/"http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sport"/
1.
a. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed
by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
b. often sports (used with a sing. verb) Such activities considered as
a group: Sports is a good way for children to get exercise.
2.
a. A usually challenging activity undertaken for amusement: "the sport
of trying to eat [a bratwurst] with anything fewer than four paper
napkins" (Jane Kramer).
b. Fun; amusement: balanced on the curb just for the sport of it.
3.
a. Mockery; jest: He made sport of his own looks.
b. An object of mockery, jest, or play: treated our interests as sport.
c. A joking mood or attitude: She made the remark in sport.
4.
a. One known for the manner of one's acceptance of rules, especially of
a game, or of a difficult situation: a poor sport.
b. Informal A fair-minded person, especially one who accepts teasing or
difficult situations well: Be a sport and show me where you caught
those fish.
c. Informal A pleasant companion: was a real sport during the trip.
Please note that "often" does not mean "always" nor "exclusively"!
The freedictionary? Really?
Read before you interject!
I stated..."here is an example"....most others available on-line
dictionaries agree with what I have written.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but sport is
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
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"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic
sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small >>>>> spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy
is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic
event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for most
people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic
endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is
definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But I can play someone
on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about
ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing ahead of the
opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my
teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I could
all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I expected
the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the infield or
whatever. Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the
object of ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play
or anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such
things.
B
pretty much by definition competitive:
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is your
preferred one.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:
On 2016-08-21 5:12 PM, Ördög wrote:
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic
sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small >>>>> spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy
is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic
event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue...
Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
By def'n sport is competitive
Not if you are a mountaineer for instance. The only thing one engaging
in sport should be completing against is one's own physical weaknesses.
Mountaineering isn't a sport.
I am not talking about what it is but what it should be.
It is currently neither healthy nor real fun.
For you.
Not unless your are a sports supplies manufacture corporation or a
betting agency owner.
Furthermore spectators do not get any health benefits from munching
chips and drinking beer either by sitting on the grand stand nor
sitting front of the teli watching selected and grossly overpaid sport
stars ruining their own health for the spectator's entertainment.
Professionalising sports is a disservice to people participating in
sport!
A circus is a circus is a circus.
I'm sorry, but you're narrowing the discussion to sports played for the
entertainment of OTHERS.
I play hockey 4-6 times a week all winter for MY entertainment and fun.
That might be the case if you were an amateur sports person and I'd have
no objection against it.
But I would have objections if you were a professional still receiving
bucket loads of tax payers funds to prop up your private entertainment at
my cost. I don't get public financial support for my hobby, so why should
you for yours?
Sport is always centred on the very individual who is doing it except
when it is run as a public spectacle. Hence my comment that in that case
it is quite like a circus.
On 2016-08-21 10:43 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:
On 2016-08-21 5:25 PM, Ördög wrote:
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bill" <Thunderbird-lyron@snkmail.com> wrote in message
news:npdd3e$592$1@dont-email.me...
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a >>>>>>>> small spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised >>>>>>>> golf buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic >>>>>>>> event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for
most people, but I play to see how well I can do at various
athletic endeavors.
So you are competing either against yourself or to see how you stack >>>>> up to others. Nothing wrong with competition but to claim sport can
occur withou competition ( formal or informal) is just incorrect
Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is definitely up >>>>>> to the constraints of that sport. But I can play someone on
Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about
ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing ahead of the
opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of
my teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as >>>>>> I could all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And >>>>>> I expected the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in
the infield or whatever.
Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the object >>>>>> of ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play or
anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such
things.
Sorry but by def'n sport is competitive. If/that you don't care
about winning or losing is irrelevant
I have looked at different dictionary definitions of the word sport.
Undoubtedly the Oxford dictionary does say sport is competitive.
However most other dictionaries available on-line don't.
And the Oxford still wins.
So you say...
Yup.
Here is an example:^^^^^^^^^^^^^
/"http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sport"/
1.
a. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed
by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
b. often sports (used with a sing. verb) Such activities considered
as a group: Sports is a good way for children to get exercise.
2.
a. A usually challenging activity undertaken for amusement: "the
sport of trying to eat [a bratwurst] with anything fewer than four
paper napkins" (Jane Kramer).
b. Fun; amusement: balanced on the curb just for the sport of it.
3.
a. Mockery; jest: He made sport of his own looks.
b. An object of mockery, jest, or play: treated our interests as
sport.
c. A joking mood or attitude: She made the remark in sport.
4.
a. One known for the manner of one's acceptance of rules, especially
of a game, or of a difficult situation: a poor sport.
b. Informal A fair-minded person, especially one who accepts teasing
or difficult situations well: Be a sport and show me where you caught
those fish.
c. Informal A pleasant companion: was a real sport during the trip.
Please note that "often" does not mean "always" nor "exclusively"!
The freedictionary? Really?
Read before you interject!
I did.
I stated..."here is an example"....most others available on-line
dictionaries agree with what I have written.
And you CHOSE your example.
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but sport is >>>> pretty much by definition competitive:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small >>>>>>> spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy >>>>>>> is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic >>>>>>> event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for most >>>>> people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic
endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is
definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But I can play someone >>>>> on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about
ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing ahead of the
opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my >>>>> teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I
could
all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I expected >>>>> the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the infield or >>>>> whatever. Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the >>>>> object of ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play >>>>> or anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such
things.
B
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is your
preferred one.
Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours.
LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but sport is
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small >>>>>> spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy >>>>>> is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic
event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for most >>>> people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic
endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is
definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But I can play someone >>>> on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about
ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing ahead of the
opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my
teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I could >>>> all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I expected >>>> the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the infield or
whatever. Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the
object of ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play
or anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such
things.
B
pretty much by definition competitive:
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is your
preferred one.
Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours.
On 2016-08-22 12:00 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours.
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but sport
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a >>>>>>>> small spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised >>>>>>>> golf buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic >>>>>>>> event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for
most people, but I play to see how well I can do at various
athletic endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or
whatever, is definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But I >>>>>> can play someone on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be
pleased about ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing
ahead of the opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of
my teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as >>>>>> I could all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And >>>>>> I expected the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in
the infield or whatever. Having fun by laughing about the
situation, or by being the object of ridicule, didn't make me try
any less hard on the next play or anything. Never could relate to
those who got offended by such things.
B
is pretty much by definition competitive:
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is your
preferred one.
LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
Sorry.
Ordog's word vs the Oxford English Dictionary
OED wins.
On 2016-08-21 11:12 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:
On 2016-08-21 5:12 PM, Ördög wrote:
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a
small spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf >>>>>> buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic
event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue...
Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
By def'n sport is competitive
Not if you are a mountaineer for instance. The only thing one
engaging in sport should be completing against is one's own physical
weaknesses.
Mountaineering isn't a sport.
I am not talking about what it is but what it should be.
It is currently neither healthy nor real fun.
For you.
Not unless your are a sports supplies manufacture corporation or a
betting agency owner.
Furthermore spectators do not get any health benefits from munching
chips and drinking beer either by sitting on the grand stand nor
sitting front of the teli watching selected and grossly overpaid
sport stars ruining their own health for the spectator's
entertainment. Professionalising sports is a disservice to people
participating in sport!
A circus is a circus is a circus.
I'm sorry, but you're narrowing the discussion to sports played for
the entertainment of OTHERS.
I play hockey 4-6 times a week all winter for MY entertainment and
fun.
That might be the case if you were an amateur sports person and I'd
have no objection against it.
And yet you railed against ALL sports.
But I would have objections if you were a professional still receiving
bucket loads of tax payers funds to prop up your private entertainment
at my cost. I don't get public financial support for my hobby, so why
should you for yours?
Who says all professional sports are propped up with taxpayer funds?
Sport is always centred on the very individual who is doing it except
when it is run as a public spectacle. Hence my comment that in that
case it is quite like a circus.
On 2016-08-22 12:00 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but sport is >>>>> pretty much by definition competitive:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a >>>>>>>> small
spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy >>>>>>>> is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic >>>>>>>> event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It
certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for
most
people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic
endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is
definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But I can play
someone
on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about
ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing ahead of the
opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my >>>>>> teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I
could
all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I
expected
the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the infield or >>>>>> whatever. Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the >>>>>> object of ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play >>>>>> or anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such
things.
B
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is your
preferred one.
Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours.
LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
Sorry.
Ordog's word vs the Oxford English Dictionary
OED wins.
Alan Baker:
On 2016-08-22 12:00 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours.
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but sport >>>>>> is pretty much by definition competitive:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a >>>>>>>>> small spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised >>>>>>>>> golf buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic >>>>>>>>> event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this >>>>>>>>> issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It >>>>>>> certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for >>>>>>> most people, but I play to see how well I can do at various
athletic endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or
whatever, is definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But I >>>>>>> can play someone on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be
pleased about ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing
ahead of the opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of >>>>>>> my teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as >>>>>>> I could all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And >>>>>>> I expected the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in >>>>>>> the infield or whatever. Having fun by laughing about the
situation, or by being the object of ridicule, didn't make me try >>>>>>> any less hard on the next play or anything. Never could relate to >>>>>>> those who got offended by such things.
B
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is your
preferred one.
LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
Sorry.
Ordog's word vs the Oxford English Dictionary
OED wins.
I have never disputed what is in the OED.
is not the only accepted usage of that word.
In case of a living language it is always the user who ultimately wins
and the dictionary eventually will catch up to the latest usage versions.
BTW why on Earth do you find this to be such world shattering matter?
If you are comfortable with your preferred version than be happy with it while others may do the same with their own versions.
Are you trying to be a little pig headed about this non-issue????
On 2016-08-21 11:12 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:
On 2016-08-21 5:12 PM, Ördög wrote:
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:Mountaineering isn't a sport.
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a small >>>>>> spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf buggy >>>>>> is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic
event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this
issue...
Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
By def'n sport is competitive
Not if you are a mountaineer for instance. The only thing one engaging >>>> in sport should be completing against is one's own physical weaknesses. >>>
I am not talking about what it is but what it should be.
It is currently neither healthy nor real fun.
For you.
Not unless your are a sports supplies manufacture corporation or a
betting agency owner.
Furthermore spectators do not get any health benefits from munching
chips and drinking beer either by sitting on the grand stand nor
sitting front of the teli watching selected and grossly overpaid sport >>>> stars ruining their own health for the spectator's entertainment.
Professionalising sports is a disservice to people participating in
sport!
A circus is a circus is a circus.
I'm sorry, but you're narrowing the discussion to sports played for the
entertainment of OTHERS.
I play hockey 4-6 times a week all winter for MY entertainment and fun.
That might be the case if you were an amateur sports person and I'd have
no objection against it.
And yet you railed against ALL sports.
But I would have objections if you were a professional still receiving
bucket loads of tax payers funds to prop up your private entertainment at
my cost. I don't get public financial support for my hobby, so why should
you for yours?
Who says all professional sports are propped up with taxpayer funds?
On 22/08/2016 5:28 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-22 12:00 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but sport >>>>>> is
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a >>>>>>>>> small
spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf >>>>>>>>> buggy
is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic >>>>>>>>> event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this >>>>>>>>> issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It >>>>>>> certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for >>>>>>> most
people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic
endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is
definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But I can play
someone
on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about
ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing ahead of the
opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of my >>>>>>> teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I >>>>>>> could
all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I
expected
the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the infield or >>>>>>> whatever. Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being >>>>>>> the
object of ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next >>>>>>> play
or anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such >>>>>>> things.
B
pretty much by definition competitive:
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is your
preferred one.
Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours.
LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
Sorry.
Yes, you should be.
Ordog's word vs the Oxford English Dictionary
OED wins.
On 2016-08-22 1:47 AM, Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker:I just don't like hearing (or reading) people whine.
On 2016-08-22 12:00 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours.
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an >>>>>>>>>>>> Olympic sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a >>>>>>>>>> small spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised >>>>>>>>>> golf buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an
Olympic event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this >>>>>>>>>> issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It >>>>>>>> certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for >>>>>>>> most people, but I play to see how well I can do at various
athletic endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or
whatever, is definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But >>>>>>>> I can play someone on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be >>>>>>>> pleased about ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing >>>>>>>> ahead of the opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of >>>>>>>> my teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard >>>>>>>> as I could all the time, if someone screwed up I started
laughing. And I expected the same thing when I screwed up and
booted a ball in the infield or whatever. Having fun by laughing >>>>>>>> about the situation, or by being the object of ridicule, didn't >>>>>>>> make me try any less hard on the next play or anything. Never
could relate to those who got offended by such things.
B
sport is pretty much by definition competitive:
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is your >>>>>> preferred one.
LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
Sorry.
Ordog's word vs the Oxford English Dictionary
OED wins.
I have never disputed what is in the OED. I have only mentioned that it
is not the only accepted usage of that word.
In case of a living language it is always the user who ultimately wins
and the dictionary eventually will catch up to the latest usage
versions.
BTW why on Earth do you find this to be such world shattering matter?
If you are comfortable with your preferred version than be happy with
it while others may do the same with their own versions.
Are you trying to be a little pig headed about this non-issue????
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:
On 2016-08-22 1:47 AM, Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker:I just don't like hearing (or reading) people whine.
On 2016-08-22 12:00 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours.
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an >>>>>>>>>>>>> Olympic sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a >>>>>>>>>>> small spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised >>>>>>>>>>> golf buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an >>>>>>>>>>> Olympic event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this >>>>>>>>>>> issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It >>>>>>>>> certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for >>>>>>>>> most people, but I play to see how well I can do at various
athletic endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or
whatever, is definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But >>>>>>>>> I can play someone on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be >>>>>>>>> pleased about ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing >>>>>>>>> ahead of the opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of >>>>>>>>> my teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard >>>>>>>>> as I could all the time, if someone screwed up I started
laughing. And I expected the same thing when I screwed up and >>>>>>>>> booted a ball in the infield or whatever. Having fun by laughing >>>>>>>>> about the situation, or by being the object of ridicule, didn't >>>>>>>>> make me try any less hard on the next play or anything. Never >>>>>>>>> could relate to those who got offended by such things.
B
sport is pretty much by definition competitive:
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an >>>>>>>> individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is your >>>>>>> preferred one.
LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
Sorry.
Ordog's word vs the Oxford English Dictionary
OED wins.
I have never disputed what is in the OED. I have only mentioned that it
is not the only accepted usage of that word.
In case of a living language it is always the user who ultimately wins
and the dictionary eventually will catch up to the latest usage
versions.
BTW why on Earth do you find this to be such world shattering matter?
If you are comfortable with your preferred version than be happy with
it while others may do the same with their own versions.
Are you trying to be a little pig headed about this non-issue????
So why are you doing it?
On 2016-08-22 1:47 AM, Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker:
On 2016-08-22 12:00 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours.
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but sport >>>>>>> is pretty much by definition competitive:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a >>>>>>>>>> small spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised >>>>>>>>>> golf buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic >>>>>>>>>> event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this >>>>>>>>>> issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It >>>>>>>> certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for >>>>>>>> most people, but I play to see how well I can do at various
athletic endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or
whatever, is definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But I >>>>>>>> can play someone on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be >>>>>>>> pleased about ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing >>>>>>>> ahead of the opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of >>>>>>>> my teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as >>>>>>>> I could all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And >>>>>>>> I expected the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in >>>>>>>> the infield or whatever. Having fun by laughing about the
situation, or by being the object of ridicule, didn't make me try >>>>>>>> any less hard on the next play or anything. Never could relate to >>>>>>>> those who got offended by such things.
B
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is your >>>>>> preferred one.
LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
Sorry.
Ordog's word vs the Oxford English Dictionary
OED wins.
I have never disputed what is in the OED. I have only mentioned that it
is not the only accepted usage of that word.
In case of a living language it is always the user who ultimately wins
and the dictionary eventually will catch up to the latest usage versions.
BTW why on Earth do you find this to be such world shattering matter?
If you are comfortable with your preferred version than be happy with it
while others may do the same with their own versions.
Are you trying to be a little pig headed about this non-issue????
I just don't like hearing (or reading) people whine.
On 2016-08-22 5:18 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:I'm not.
On 2016-08-22 1:47 AM, Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker:I just don't like hearing (or reading) people whine.
On 2016-08-22 12:00 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours.
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but >>>>>>>>> sport is pretty much by definition competitive:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olympic sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing >>>>>>>>>>>> a small spherical object across an obstacle field in a >>>>>>>>>>>> motorised golf buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an >>>>>>>>>>>> Olympic event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this >>>>>>>>>>>> issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. >>>>>>>>>> It certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably >>>>>>>>>> is for most people, but I play to see how well I can do at >>>>>>>>>> various athletic endeavors. Whether I advance to the next
round, or whatever, is definitely up to the constraints of that >>>>>>>>>> sport. But I can play someone on Saturday and finish up 2
strokes and not be pleased about ball-striking and think I >>>>>>>>>> don't deserve finishing ahead of the opponent(s) even though >>>>>>>>>> the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many >>>>>>>>>> of my teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as >>>>>>>>>> hard as I could all the time, if someone screwed up I started >>>>>>>>>> laughing. And I expected the same thing when I screwed up and >>>>>>>>>> booted a ball in the infield or whatever. Having fun by
laughing about the situation, or by being the object of
ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play or >>>>>>>>>> anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such >>>>>>>>>> things.
B
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an >>>>>>>>> individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is
your preferred one.
LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
Sorry.
Ordog's word vs the Oxford English Dictionary
OED wins.
I have never disputed what is in the OED. I have only mentioned that
it is not the only accepted usage of that word.
In case of a living language it is always the user who ultimately
wins and the dictionary eventually will catch up to the latest usage
versions.
BTW why on Earth do you find this to be such world shattering matter?
If you are comfortable with your preferred version than be happy with
it while others may do the same with their own versions.
Are you trying to be a little pig headed about this non-issue????
So why are you doing it?
:-)
"Fran Snortilus" <ask@itsahoot.com> wrote in message news:npeqh1$t8j$1@dont-email.me...
On 22/08/2016 5:28 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-22 12:00 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a >>>>>>>>>> small
spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised golf >>>>>>>>>> buggy
is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic >>>>>>>>>> event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this >>>>>>>>>> issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It >>>>>>>> certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for >>>>>>>> most
people, but I play to see how well I can do at various athletic >>>>>>>> endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or whatever, is >>>>>>>> definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But I can play >>>>>>>> someone
on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about
ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing ahead of the >>>>>>>> opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many >>>>>>>> of my
teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as I >>>>>>>> could
all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And I
expected
the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in the
infield or
whatever. Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by
being the
object of ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next >>>>>>>> play
or anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such >>>>>>>> things.
B
sport is
pretty much by definition competitive:
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is your >>>>>> preferred one.
Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours.
LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
Sorry.
Yes, you should be.
Ordog's word vs the Oxford English Dictionary
OED wins.
Now this is a 'sport' I'd love to see at the Olympics competitive
dictionary quoting
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:
On 2016-08-22 5:18 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:I'm not.
On 2016-08-22 1:47 AM, Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker:I just don't like hearing (or reading) people whine.
On 2016-08-22 12:00 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours. >>>>>>>
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but >>>>>>>>>> sport is pretty much by definition competitive:
Word on that, Ordog.
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olympic sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing >>>>>>>>>>>>> a small spherical object across an obstacle field in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> motorised golf buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an >>>>>>>>>>>>> Olympic event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this >>>>>>>>>>>>> issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive, >>>>>>>>>>>
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. >>>>>>>>>>> It certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably >>>>>>>>>>> is for most people, but I play to see how well I can do at >>>>>>>>>>> various athletic endeavors. Whether I advance to the next >>>>>>>>>>> round, or whatever, is definitely up to the constraints of that >>>>>>>>>>> sport. But I can play someone on Saturday and finish up 2 >>>>>>>>>>> strokes and not be pleased about ball-striking and think I >>>>>>>>>>> don't deserve finishing ahead of the opponent(s) even though >>>>>>>>>>> the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many >>>>>>>>>>> of my teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as >>>>>>>>>>> hard as I could all the time, if someone screwed up I started >>>>>>>>>>> laughing. And I expected the same thing when I screwed up and >>>>>>>>>>> booted a ball in the infield or whatever. Having fun by
laughing about the situation, or by being the object of
ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the next play or >>>>>>>>>>> anything. Never could relate to those who got offended by such >>>>>>>>>>> things.
B
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an >>>>>>>>>> individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is >>>>>>>>> your preferred one.
Sorry.
Ordog's word vs the Oxford English Dictionary
OED wins.
I have never disputed what is in the OED. I have only mentioned that >>>>> it is not the only accepted usage of that word.
In case of a living language it is always the user who ultimately
wins and the dictionary eventually will catch up to the latest usage >>>>> versions.
BTW why on Earth do you find this to be such world shattering matter? >>>>> If you are comfortable with your preferred version than be happy with >>>>> it while others may do the same with their own versions.
Are you trying to be a little pig headed about this non-issue????
So why are you doing it?
:-)
Excellent!
So than we can finally conclude this thread.
What else would you expect from a genuine newsgroup devil like me?
On 2016-08-22 5:53 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:I already had...
On 2016-08-22 5:18 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:I'm not.
On 2016-08-22 1:47 AM, Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker:I just don't like hearing (or reading) people whine.
On 2016-08-22 12:00 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours. >>>>>>>>
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but >>>>>>>>>>> sport is pretty much by definition competitive:
Word on that, Ordog.
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olympic sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> chasing a small spherical object across an obstacle field >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a motorised golf buggy is a sport than it is a sport. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olympic event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive, >>>>>>>>>>>>
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is*
competitive. It certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, >>>>>>>>>>>> and probably is for most people, but I play to see how well I >>>>>>>>>>>> can do at various athletic endeavors. Whether I advance to >>>>>>>>>>>> the next round, or whatever, is definitely up to the
constraints of that sport. But I can play someone on Saturday >>>>>>>>>>>> and finish up 2 strokes and not be pleased about
ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing ahead of >>>>>>>>>>>> the opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. >>>>>>>>>>>> Many of my teammates hated me in HS because even though I >>>>>>>>>>>> tried as hard as I could all the time, if someone screwed up >>>>>>>>>>>> I started laughing. And I expected the same thing when I >>>>>>>>>>>> screwed up and booted a ball in the infield or whatever. >>>>>>>>>>>> Having fun by laughing about the situation, or by being the >>>>>>>>>>>> object of ridicule, didn't make me try any less hard on the >>>>>>>>>>>> next play or anything. Never could relate to those who got >>>>>>>>>>>> offended by such things.
B
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an >>>>>>>>>>> individual or team competes against another or others for >>>>>>>>>>> entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is >>>>>>>>>> your preferred one.
Sorry.
Ordog's word vs the Oxford English Dictionary
OED wins.
I have never disputed what is in the OED. I have only mentioned
that it is not the only accepted usage of that word.
In case of a living language it is always the user who ultimately
wins and the dictionary eventually will catch up to the latest
usage versions.
BTW why on Earth do you find this to be such world shattering
matter?
If you are comfortable with your preferred version than be happy
with it while others may do the same with their own versions.
Are you trying to be a little pig headed about this non-issue????
So why are you doing it?
:-)
Excellent!
So than we can finally conclude this thread.
...but you just had to get the last word, didn't you?
:-)
Alan Baker:
On 2016-08-22 12:00 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/08/2016 4:15 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-08-21 10:45 PM, Ördög wrote:
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> live on stage:Sorry, but it is a much better more reliable source than yours.
On 2016-08-21 4:22 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/21/2016 7:06 PM, Dechucka wrote:You may not care about the competitive aspect personally, but sport >>>>>> is pretty much by definition competitive:
"Ördög" <devil@hell.net> wrote in message
news:9la0lo.edm.19.17@news.alt.net...
"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> live on stage:
"Bradley H. Sherman" <bhsherman@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:0d2462410f5329e3afd6bc57e1b6eff5@dizum.com...
Isn't that the same thing as calling groundskeeping an Olympic >>>>>>>>>>> sport?
no
As long as there are deluded people who believe that chasing a >>>>>>>>> small spherical object across an obstacle field in a motorised >>>>>>>>> golf buggy is a sport than it is a sport.
Theoretically on the same grounds Formula 1 should be an Olympic >>>>>>>>> event too.
However I might be completely the wrong person to ask on this >>>>>>>>> issue... Why?
Because I firmly believe sport should non-competitive,
Word on that, Ordog.
By def'n sport is competitive
And I will respectfully disagree that sports *is* competitive. It >>>>>>> certainly *can* be, depending on who you are, and probably is for >>>>>>> most people, but I play to see how well I can do at various
athletic endeavors. Whether I advance to the next round, or
whatever, is definitely up to the constraints of that sport. But I >>>>>>> can play someone on Saturday and finish up 2 strokes and not be
pleased about ball-striking and think I don't deserve finishing
ahead of the opponent(s) even though the numbers say I did.
I just don't care about the competitive aspect of things. Many of >>>>>>> my teammates hated me in HS because even though I tried as hard as >>>>>>> I could all the time, if someone screwed up I started laughing. And >>>>>>> I expected the same thing when I screwed up and booted a ball in >>>>>>> the infield or whatever. Having fun by laughing about the
situation, or by being the object of ridicule, didn't make me try >>>>>>> any less hard on the next play or anything. Never could relate to >>>>>>> those who got offended by such things.
B
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for
entertainment:'
That is not the _only_ available interpretation even if it is your
preferred one.
LOL. Your word vs Ordog's word. Ordog wins.
Sorry.
Ordog's word vs the Oxford English Dictionary
OED wins.
I have never disputed what is in the OED. I have only mentioned that it
is not the only accepted usage of that word.
In case of a living language it is always the user who ultimately wins
and the dictionary eventually will catch up to the latest usage versions.
BTW why on Earth do you find this to be such world shattering matter?
If you are comfortable with your preferred version than be happy with it while others may do the same with their own versions.
Are you trying to be a little pig headed about this non-issue????
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