In relationship to their shady accounting practices. All other teams
involved received no point penalty. All other teams engaged in identical >shady accounting practices were not even investigated.
That's Serie A for you...
In relationship to their shady accounting practices. All other teams involved received no point penalty. All other teams engaged in identical shady accounting practices were not even investigated.
That's Serie A for you...
In article <8008a7f3-c923-47bb-b1fe-1de135d5aae2n@googlegroups.com>, Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> wrote:
In relationship to their shady accounting practices. All other teams involved received no point penalty. All other teams engaged in
identical shady accounting practices were not even investigated.
That's Serie A for you...
Anyone else in Serie A?
The Doctor wrote:
In article <8008a7f3-c923-47bb...@googlegroups.com>,
Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> wrote:
In relationship to their shady accounting practices. All other teams involved received no point penalty. All other teams engaged in
identical shady accounting practices were not even investigated.
That's Serie A for you...
Anyone else in Serie A?Not enough!
I find it hard to believe that only one club behaves like that. Serie A
is notorious for corrupt practices.
Since the prosecutors only wanted 9, I'm not sure a full demotion to B was not in order.
It is an effective expulsion for Juventus from 23-24 Europe, though.
It is an effective expulsion for Juventus from 23-24 Europe, though.There is still the Coppa Italia (and the Europa League, albeit quite unlikely)
In relationship to their shady accounting practices. All other teams involved received no point penalty. All other teams engaged in identical shady accounting practices were not even investigated.
That's Serie A for you...
On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 5:32:45 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
In relationship to their shady accounting practices. All other teams involved received no point penalty. All other teams engaged in identical shady accounting practices were not even investigated.
That's Serie A for you...15 points penalty temporarily removed. There will be a retrial. Usual Italian-style compromise, we'll see what comes out.
Current Serie A table:
Napoli 75
Lazio 61
Juventus 59
Roma 56
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Milan 53
Inter 51
What exactly are the allegations?
On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 2:45:50 AM UTC-4, Mark wrote:
What exactly are the allegations?Inflating the values of players that they traded with other teams. In Italian it's called "plusvalenze".
If I sell player X for 10M, that counts as an immediate gain of 10M on my balance sheet.
But if I buy player Y for 10M, with a 5 year contract, I can spread out the cost (and the hit to my balance sheet) over 5 years.
The immediate hit to my balance sheet is 2M.
Now suppose that you and I trade players X and Y, two young unproven youth who in reality are worth only 1M, but we value
them at 10M. Just like that, we both register an 8M gain on our balance sheet this year (we will have additional costs in
future years, but then we can do the trick again -- basically it's a Ponzi scheme)
Now, it turns out that: a) this is a very common practice; b) you need two clubs to play this game, but only Juve was
penalized; c) a previous court had established that this practice, however shady, did not represent a financial irregularity
punishable with a point penalty.
Yesterday's verdict established that there were some irregularities and inconsistencies in the prosecution's case, and
basically ordered a retrial. The somewhat paranoid feeling among many Juve fans is that they will find a way to penalize
Juve by exactly the number of points necessary to have them out of Europe next year. But it's also possible that the point
penalty will be applied next year.
Juve is also on the hook for apparently paying some players under the table during COVID, and it's possible that the two
cases will be merged into one.
Recently the Guardian put it quite succinctly:
“It wasn’t only Juventus,” said a fan, referring to the plusvalenze scandal.
“No,” his friend replied. “But it is always Juventus.”
Yesterday's verdict established that there were some irregularities and inconsistencies in the prosecution's case, andSo they settled on minus 10, and Juve obliged further by losing against Empoli.
basically ordered a retrial. The somewhat paranoid feeling among many Juve fans is that they will find a way to penalize
Juve by exactly the number of points necessary to have them out of Europe next year. But it's also possible that the point
penalty will be applied next year.
Juve is also on the hook for apparently paying some players under the table during COVID, and it's possible that the twoHas that happened? I guess we'll see another round of appeals anyway.
cases will be merged into one.
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:06:55 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
Juve is also on the hook for apparently paying some players under the table during COVID, and it's possible that the twoHas that happened? I guess we'll see another round of appeals anyway.
cases will be merged into one.
That case will be debated on June 15. Gazzetta dello Sport, who has a good track record of "predicting" what the outcomes
will be (to be precise: of reminding the sporting justices what "popular sentiment" wants the outcome to be), came out with a
piece today suggesting that Juve and FIGC will settle this one out of court: Juve agrees to not appeal the current ruling and
stay out of European competition for a year, UEFA (who still wants to punish Juve because of the Super League affront)
backs off, no further penalties in the 2023-2024 season, and we put all of this behind us.
That case will be debated on June 15. Gazzetta dello Sport, who has a good track record of "predicting" what the outcomesThat's basically what Milan have done in 2019. Perhaps you're more alike than you pretend? :)
will be (to be precise: of reminding the sporting justices what "popular sentiment" wants the outcome to be), came out with a
piece today suggesting that Juve and FIGC will settle this one out of court: Juve agrees to not appeal the current ruling and
stay out of European competition for a year, UEFA (who still wants to punish Juve because of the Super League affront)
backs off, no further penalties in the 2023-2024 season, and we put all of this behind us.
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