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    From Jesus Petry@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 29 11:12:22 2022
    The greatest ever.

    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?TGzDqW8=?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 29 11:29:30 2022
    Em quinta-feira, 29 de dezembro de 2022 às 16:12:24 UTC-3, Jesus Petry escreveu:
    The greatest ever.


    Indeed he is. May he rest in peace.


    Best regards,
    Lléo

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  • From FF@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 29 11:42:38 2022
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC+2, Lléo wrote:
    Em quinta-feira, 29 de dezembro de 2022 às 16:12:24 UTC-3, Jesus Petry escreveu:
    The greatest ever.


    Indeed he is. May he rest in peace.


    Best regards,
    Lléo

    Maybe he is, or maybe he isn't. Hard to tell. Anyway, rest in peace.
    (Doesn't really matter. He's so great and wonderful in himself that there's not much point comparing him to other greats. From the little I've seen of him.)

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 29 12:28:23 2022
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 7:42:39 PM UTC, FF wrote:
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC+2, Lléo wrote:
    Em quinta-feira, 29 de dezembro de 2022 às 16:12:24 UTC-3, Jesus Petry escreveu:
    The greatest ever.


    Indeed he is. May he rest in peace.


    Best regards,
    Lléo
    Maybe he is, or maybe he isn't. Hard to tell. Anyway, rest in peace. (Doesn't really matter. He's so great and wonderful in himself that there's not much point comparing him to other greats. From the little I've seen of him.)


    Not sure if I’m in the minority on rss but I’m not old enough to have seen Pele play during his career.

    His achievements are beyond doubt.

    One thing that doesn’t seem to get mentioned so much but it strikes me he along with Eusebio must have been two of the earliest black players to play leading roles for successful sides at World Cups?


    RIP


    RM

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  • From Bruce Scott@21:1/5 to Jesus Petry on Thu Dec 29 21:05:49 2022
    On 2022-12-29, Jesus Petry <jesus.petry@gmail.com> wrote:
    The greatest ever.

    RIP Pele. He was the entry point for many in the US into world
    football, already then as ambassador (1970 and after).

    ciao, Bruce

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  • From LedZep IgaSwanTech@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Thu Dec 29 13:35:44 2022
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 2:28:25 PM UTC-6, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 7:42:39 PM UTC, FF wrote:
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC+2, Lléo wrote:
    Em quinta-feira, 29 de dezembro de 2022 às 16:12:24 UTC-3, Jesus Petry escreveu:
    The greatest ever.


    Indeed he is. May he rest in peace.


    Best regards,
    Lléo
    Maybe he is, or maybe he isn't. Hard to tell. Anyway, rest in peace. (Doesn't really matter. He's so great and wonderful in himself that there's not much point comparing him to other greats. From the little I've seen of him.)
    Not sure if I’m in the minority on rss but I’m not old enough to have seen Pele play during his career.

    His achievements are beyond doubt.

    One thing that doesn’t seem to get mentioned so much but it strikes me he along with Eusebio must have been two of the earliest black players to play leading roles for successful sides at World Cups?
    No!!! That would be this guy. He was the original "Black Pearl". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Leandro_Andrade

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 29 22:44:47 2022
    Quoting Jesus Petry in rec.sport.soccer:
    The greatest ever.

    GOAT


    --
    Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
    Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to jesus...@gmail.com on Thu Dec 29 14:22:19 2022
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 2:12:24 PM UTC-5, jesus...@gmail.com wrote:
    The greatest ever.

    By most accounts of people who knew and met him, he was a very nice person. But he did say a lot of silly things, and indulged in a lot of self-promotion. But nobody is perfect.

    He was the undoubted face of the game until the turn of the millennium (far more than Maradona in terms of global appeal), but that baton has now been picked up by Messi.

    RIP.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to jesus.petry@gmail.com on Thu Dec 29 22:56:04 2022
    In article <c4219c70-29a0-41fc-8fa7-57bb4cf21e50n@googlegroups.com>,
    Jesus Petry <jesus.petry@gmail.com> wrote:
    The greatest ever.

    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry

    GOAT
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    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b Happy Christmas 2022 and Merry New Year 2023 Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to LedZep IgaSwanTech on Thu Dec 29 15:21:44 2022
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:35:46 PM UTC, LedZep IgaSwanTech wrote:
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 2:28:25 PM UTC-6, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 7:42:39 PM UTC, FF wrote:
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC+2, Lléo wrote:
    Em quinta-feira, 29 de dezembro de 2022 às 16:12:24 UTC-3, Jesus Petry escreveu:
    The greatest ever.


    Indeed he is. May he rest in peace.


    Best regards,
    Lléo
    Maybe he is, or maybe he isn't. Hard to tell. Anyway, rest in peace. (Doesn't really matter. He's so great and wonderful in himself that there's not much point comparing him to other greats. From the little I've seen of him.)
    Not sure if I’m in the minority on rss but I’m not old enough to have seen Pele play during his career.

    His achievements are beyond doubt.

    One thing that doesn’t seem to get mentioned so much but it strikes me he along with Eusebio must have been two of the earliest black players to play leading roles for successful sides at World Cups?
    No!!! That would be this guy. He was the original "Black Pearl". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Leandro_Andrade

    Well all credit to Jose Leandro Andrade for being the first, but the post did say "**two of the earliest** black players to play leading roles for successful sides at World Cups". Pele and Eusebio would surely meet the above definition, not to mention
    that their achievements would have been more influential due to the simple accident of World Cup matches reaching a global television audience by the time they played.


    RM

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Thu Dec 29 23:26:51 2022
    On 2022-12-29 16:21, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:35:46 PM UTC, LedZep IgaSwanTech wrote:
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 2:28:25 PM UTC-6, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 7:42:39 PM UTC, FF wrote:
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC+2, Lléo wrote:
    Em quinta-feira, 29 de dezembro de 2022 às 16:12:24 UTC-3, Jesus Petry escreveu:
    The greatest ever.


    Indeed he is. May he rest in peace.


    Best regards,
    Lléo
    Maybe he is, or maybe he isn't. Hard to tell. Anyway, rest in peace.
    (Doesn't really matter. He's so great and wonderful in himself that there's not much point comparing him to other greats. From the little I've seen of him.)
    Not sure if I’m in the minority on rss but I’m not old enough to have seen Pele play during his career.

    His achievements are beyond doubt.

    One thing that doesn’t seem to get mentioned so much but it strikes me he along with Eusebio must have been two of the earliest black players to play leading roles for successful sides at World Cups?
    No!!! That would be this guy. He was the original "Black Pearl".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Leandro_Andrade

    Well all credit to Jose Leandro Andrade for being the first, but the post did say "**two of the earliest** black players to play leading roles for successful sides at World Cups". Pele and Eusebio would surely meet the above definition, not to mention
    that their achievements would have been more influential due to the simple accident of World Cup matches reaching a global television audience by the time they played.

    Leonidas da Silva was another. And of course many of Pele's colleagues
    on the 1958 team, and several members of the 1950 Brazilian team.


    RM

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to jesus...@gmail.com on Thu Dec 29 22:39:10 2022
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 11:12:24 AM UTC-8, jesus...@gmail.com wrote:
    The greatest ever.

    The bad thing about today's sports world is that there can never be another transcendent like Pele or Ali or the like.

    Mike

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to jesus...@gmail.com on Fri Dec 30 03:01:44 2022
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 7:12:24 PM UTC, jesus...@gmail.com wrote:
    The greatest ever.


    Probably by quite a long way! 3 World Cups, 2 World Club Championships, 2 Copa Libertadores, 5 consecutive Taca Brazils, just to name a few of the tournaments he won.

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  • From Ion Saliu@21:1/5 to jesus...@gmail.com on Fri Dec 30 06:43:15 2022
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:12:24 PM UTC+2, jesus...@gmail.com wrote:
    The greatest ever.

    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry

    Undoubtedly the Greatest Of All Time — GOAT. There is NO “the greatest condolences of all time”, as far as I know. I can only dedicate one hymn to GREAT PELÉ:

    • “Shine On You Crazy Diamond”
    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWGE9Gi0bB0

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to ions...@gmail.com on Sat Dec 31 02:19:06 2022
    On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 2:43:17 PM UTC, ions...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:12:24 PM UTC+2, jesus...@gmail.com wrote:
    The greatest ever.

    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry
    Undoubtedly the Greatest Of All Time — GOAT. There is NO “the greatest condolences of all time”, as far as I know. I can only dedicate one hymn to GREAT PELÉ:

    • “Shine On You Crazy Diamond”
    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWGE9Gi0bB0


    Just caught the end of a Pelé memorial on TRT and apparently Pelé played in goal four times and didn’t end up on the losing side once! Was there no end to the man’s talents?


    RM

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  • From KaiserD2@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 10:26:02 2022
    A few comments on Pele.

    One quibble: everyone says that he won three World Cups. He played
    on three cup-winning sides, but in 1962 I believe he played in only
    1.5 first round matches and that was it. It might even have been .5
    first round matches. He tore a muscle and they won without him thanks
    largely to Garrincha.

    The Brazilian teams of 1950 and 1954--which did not win--had black
    stars, and Didi and Djalma Santos were stars of the 1958 and 1962
    winners.

    As for his play: there are some fantastic highlight videos of him
    on youtube which I recommend. I don't think any other player
    sustained a comparable performance level over such a long time.
    Watching those videos, I don't think there has ever been a more
    ambidextrous player. He could dribble through two defenders with his
    right foot and then hit an absolutely spectacular shot with his left
    foot. I've seen Ronaldo (Cristiano) and Diego Forlan hit remarkable
    shots with their left feet but not as many.

    Watching highlights from 1970--and I own all their 1970
    games--what's amazing is how Pele, Gerson, and all the others are
    constantly looking for a killer pass to put someone through. Many of
    them don't make it, but they don't care, and when one
    does---GOOOOOOOL!!! More recent Brazilian teams waste a lot more
    time. I don't think any subsequent team can match Rivelino, Tostao,
    Pele and Jairzhino as a forward line.

    The first time I saw him play a full game as it happened was his
    Cosmos debut. He headed a tremendous goal.

    RIP--I don't thnk we can produce a player like him any more. He
    was taught by his father whose pro career was cut short by injury, and
    his father made him learn everything.

    David Kaiser

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 1 03:53:34 2023
    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 3:26:09 PM UTC, KaiserD2 wrote:
    A few comments on Pele.

    One quibble: everyone says that he won three World Cups. He played
    on three cup-winning sides, but in 1962 I believe he played in only
    1.5 first round matches and that was it. It might even have been .5
    first round matches. He tore a muscle and they won without him thanks
    largely to Garrincha.

    He was part of the squad, and 1.5 1st round matches was probably a quarter of the tournament. I think that's enough to have earned his medal.

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