Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cakea write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season is such
2. Messi or Ronaldo?
Messi has won this much more easily than most of us would have thought a few years ago and not just cus he won the WM, but cus Ronaldo has turned into a clown.
3. VAR, good or bad?
It was going to happen and it had to happen to get football into the 20th century, but has it really helped the game? I dont think so.
I will leave it at 3 coffee cake discussion points, for now.
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cakea write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season is such
2. Messi or Ronaldo?
Messi has won this much more easily than most of us would have thought a few years ago and not just cus he won the WM, but cus Ronaldo has turned into a clown.
3. VAR, good or bad?
It was going to happen and it had to happen to get football into the 20th century, but has it really helped the game? I dont think so.
I will leave it at 3 coffee cake discussion points, for now.
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 2:56:59 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season is
I don’t like it but that’s for reasons of tradition. Watching the Brazil v Croatia penalty shootout on my phone in my parked car with so much ice on the windows I couldn’t see outside was a surreal experience, as was watching Argentina v USAwhile putting up the Christmas tree (maybe I should have put a Messi ProStars figure at the top of the tree?).
However, objectively I find it hard to argue why it shouldn’t be held in November/ December. If anything it negates the usual excuses about players being too tired at the end of a long season. Being mid season for many leagues arguably the playersshould be at optimum physical fitness and also be sufficiently match sharp. They don’t necessarily have to accelerate the fixture list the way they did this time, they could always extend the club season by a month to accommodate it.
Now that they’ve held a World Cup in Northern Hemisphere winter without the World coming to an end they’ve got a foundation to do it again. Saudi Arabia are said to be keen on hosting and it wouldn’t surprise me if we have another Desert WorldCup Christmas Special in the next 3 to 4 World Cups.
RM
2. Messi or Ronaldo?
Messi has won this much more easily than most of us would have thought a few years ago and not just cus he won the WM, but cus Ronaldo has turned into a clown.
3. VAR, good or bad?
It was going to happen and it had to happen to get football into the 20th century, but has it really helped the game? I dont think so.
I will leave it at 3 coffee cake discussion points, for now.
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cakea write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season is such
What's the difference between being in the middle of the
season for Spain and being in the middle of the season for Brazil?
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cakea write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season is such
2. Messi or Ronaldo?
Messi has won this much more easily than most of us would have thought a few years ago and not just cus he won the WM, but cus Ronaldo has turned into a clown.
3. VAR, good or bad?
It was going to happen and it had to happen to get football into the 20th century, but has it really helped the game? I dont think so.
I will leave it at 3 coffee cake discussion points, for now.
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 9:56:59 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season is
2. Messi or Ronaldo?
Messi has won this much more easily than most of us would have thought a few years ago and not just cus he won the WM, but cus Ronaldo has turned into a clown.
3. VAR, good or bad?
It was going to happen and it had to happen to get football into the 20th century, but has it really helped the game? I dont think so.
I will leave it at 3 coffee cake discussion points, for now.More a pork dumpling and tea discussion today
4. Five subs rule, since covid I think, the 5 subs rule has snuck in and is totally accepted in all leagues now, though you only have three chances to make the five subs. I think it is a good thing, though I can see how it helps bigger clubs.
5. Adding the full amount of added time. They seemed to do that more during the Desert Cup. Football should probably join the 19th century and go on a stop clock. Two 30 min halfs, would probably be equal to what we have today.
6. OK, this one will not appeal to everyone, though I have had this talk with Mr Lily White and he agrees, but giving 2 points for goals scored outside the box. Just think your team are down two goals in the 90th min and blast a goal from 20 metres out,game on! Should also promote long distance shooting, that seems to have all but died in the modern game-possibly cus keepers are now bigger and better?
On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:31:31 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
6. OK, this one will not appeal to everyone, though I have had this
talk with Mr Lily White and he agrees, but giving 2 points for
goals scored outside the box. Just think your team are down two
goals in the 90th min and blast a goal from 20 metres out, game on!
Should also promote long distance shooting, that seems to have all
but died in the modern game-possibly cus keepers are now bigger and
better?
This sounds like the "zone soccer" idea they were considering
implementing in the USA around the time of the 1994 World Cup. I
don't like this idea, if goals from outside the area become more
valuable then the game will change to a long distance shooting
exercise and goals from inside the area resulting from well worked
passing plays will become a rarity. Basically football would become
"get the ball to an attacker outside the area as quickly possible and
watch him shoot". It would become a less intricate and uglier game to
watch.
On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:31:31 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:shooting exercise and goals from inside the area resulting from well worked passing plays will become a rarity. Basically football would become "get the ball to an attacker outside the area as quickly possible and watch him shoot". It would become a less
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 9:56:59 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
This sounds like the "zone soccer" idea they were considering implementing in the USA around the time of the 1994 World Cup. I don't like this idea, if goals from outside the area become more valuable then the game will change to a long distance
RM
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 9:56:59 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season is
2. Messi or Ronaldo?
Messi has won this much more easily than most of us would have thought a few years ago and not just cus he won the WM, but cus Ronaldo has turned into a clown.
3. VAR, good or bad?
It was going to happen and it had to happen to get football into the 20th century, but has it really helped the game? I dont think so.
I will leave it at 3 coffee cake discussion points, for now.
More a pork dumpling and tea discussion today
4. Five subs rule, since covid I think, the 5 subs rule has snuck in and is totally accepted in all leagues now, though you only have three chances to make the five subs. I think it is a good thing, though I can see how it helps bigger clubs.
5. Adding the full amount of added time. They seemed to do that more during the Desert Cup. Football should probably join the 19th century and go on a stop clock. Two 30 min halfs, would probably be equal to what we have today.
6. OK, this one will not appeal to everyone, though I have had this talk with Mr Lily White and he agrees, but giving 2 points for goals scored outside the box. Just think your team are down two goals in the 90th min and blast a goal from 20 metresout, game on! Should also promote long distance shooting, that seems to have all but died in the modern game-possibly cus keepers are now bigger and better?
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 9:56:59 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season is
2. Messi or Ronaldo?
Messi has won this much more easily than most of us would have thought a few years ago and not just cus he won the WM, but cus Ronaldo has turned into a clown.
3. VAR, good or bad?
It was going to happen and it had to happen to get football into the 20th century, but has it really helped the game? I dont think so.
game on! Should also promote long distance shooting, that seems to have all but died in the modern game-possibly cus keepers are now bigger and better?I will leave it at 3 coffee cake discussion points, for now.More a pork dumpling and tea discussion today
4. Five subs rule, since covid I think, the 5 subs rule has snuck in and is totally accepted in all leagues now, though you only have three chances to make the five subs. I think it is a good thing, though I can see how it helps bigger clubs.
5. Adding the full amount of added time. They seemed to do that more during the Desert Cup. Football should probably join the 19th century and go on a stop clock. Two 30 min halfs, would probably be equal to what we have today.
6. OK, this one will not appeal to everyone, though I have had this talk with Mr Lily White and he agrees, but giving 2 points for goals scored outside the box. Just think your team are down two goals in the 90th min and blast a goal from 20 metres out,
On 2022-12-27 06:31, Binder Dundat wrote:such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 9:56:59 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season is
Doesn't matter much to me. They should hold it a time of year, in
whatever host country is chosen, that is conducive to playing football.
Not too hot, not too cold and not in the rainy season. April in Spain,
June in England, February in Mexico.
Ronaldo is more athletic, but Messi has the better footballing brain and
2. Messi or Ronaldo?
Messi has won this much more easily than most of us would have thought a few years ago and not just cus he won the WM, but cus Ronaldo has turned into a clown.
is far more of a team player.
I tend to agree. Far too many marginal (by old stanndards) penalties awarded.
3. VAR, good or bad?
It was going to happen and it had to happen to get football into the 20th century, but has it really helped the game? I dont think so.
4. Five subs rule, since covid I think, the 5 subs rule has snuck in and is totally accepted in all leagues now, though you only have three chances to make the five subs. I think it is a good thing, though I can see how it helps bigger clubs.It certainly changes things, and kind of makes squad rotation a lot less necessary. Probably a boon to developing younger players
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 2:56:59 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season is
The World Cup is always played in the middle of the season. Ask the Brazilians. What's the difference between being in the middle of the season for Spain and being in the middle of the season for Brazil?
I would rather do away with the penalty area altogether. A foul is a
foul, and is a direct free kick. Would reduce diving and VAR nonsense.
PKs only (as in hockey) for fouls that quite clearly deny an obvious
high odds goalscoring opportunity.
On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:49:29 AM UTC-5, MH wrote:
I would rather do away with the penalty area altogether. A foul is a
foul, and is a direct free kick. Would reduce diving and VAR nonsense.
PKs only (as in hockey) for fouls that quite clearly deny an obvious
high odds goalscoring opportunity.
I have been suggesting this for ages.
On 2022-12-27 11:05, Real Mardin wrote:shooting exercise and goals from inside the area resulting from well worked passing plays will become a rarity. Basically football would become "get the ball to an attacker outside the area as quickly possible and watch him shoot". It would become a less
On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:31:31 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 9:56:59 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
This sounds like the "zone soccer" idea they were considering implementing in the USA around the time of the 1994 World Cup. I don't like this idea, if goals from outside the area become more valuable then the game will change to a long distance
When I was young all baskets in basketball counted for only 2 points. I
have heard it argued (by people complaining about hockey and the lack of scoring because GKs are so much bigger and better, and everything is all jammed up) that the introduction of the three pointer revolutionized the game of basketball by opening up space. And obviously teams do NOT
focus entirely on three pointers.
So while I don't particularly like Binder's proposal above, it can
certainly be argued that it has merit.
On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:31:31 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 9:56:59 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season is
2. Messi or Ronaldo?
Messi has won this much more easily than most of us would have thought a few years ago and not just cus he won the WM, but cus Ronaldo has turned into a clown.
3. VAR, good or bad?
It was going to happen and it had to happen to get football into the 20th century, but has it really helped the game? I dont think so.
out, game on! Should also promote long distance shooting, that seems to have all but died in the modern game-possibly cus keepers are now bigger and better?I will leave it at 3 coffee cake discussion points, for now.More a pork dumpling and tea discussion today
4. Five subs rule, since covid I think, the 5 subs rule has snuck in and is totally accepted in all leagues now, though you only have three chances to make the five subs. I think it is a good thing, though I can see how it helps bigger clubs.
5. Adding the full amount of added time. They seemed to do that more during the Desert Cup. Football should probably join the 19th century and go on a stop clock. Two 30 min halfs, would probably be equal to what we have today.
6. OK, this one will not appeal to everyone, though I have had this talk with Mr Lily White and he agrees, but giving 2 points for goals scored outside the box. Just think your team are down two goals in the 90th min and blast a goal from 20 metres
When do we actually get our stollen and pork dumpling? Is the idea that you send some by e-mail to anyone that contributes to this conversation?
On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 5:52:33 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 2:56:59 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season is
The World Cup is always played in the middle of the season. Ask the Brazilians. What's the difference between being in the middle of the season for Spain and being in the middle of the season for Brazil?Very few people outside South America watch South American leagues. Billions around the globe watch the top European leagues. That's the very obvious difference.
On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 2:49:18 PM UTC, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:is such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 5:52:33 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 2:56:59 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season
I doubt if that's true.The World Cup is always played in the middle of the season. Ask the Brazilians. What's the difference between being in the middle of the season for Spain and being in the middle of the season for Brazil?Very few people outside South America watch South American leagues. Billions around the globe watch the top European leagues. That's the very obvious difference.
But even if it was, I don't think it would make much difference to the fans. Wouldn't it be more the players that would be affected?
On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 5:48:53 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:is such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 2:49:18 PM UTC, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 5:52:33 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 2:56:59 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season
You are quite detached from reality. More people watch the Chinese and Mexican leagues than any South American league.I doubt if that's true.The World Cup is always played in the middle of the season. Ask the Brazilians. What's the difference between being in the middle of the season for Spain and being in the middle of the season for Brazil?Very few people outside South America watch South American leagues. Billions around the globe watch the top European leagues. That's the very obvious difference.
https://www.redbull.com/us-en/most-watched-soccer-leagues
But even if it was, I don't think it would make much difference to the fans. Wouldn't it be more the players that would be affected?You realize that most South American WC players play in Europe, don't you? In fact, the Saudi and Qatari leagues were better represented in the WC than South American leagues. This might help:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1345544/league-most-world-cup-players/
So it is Eggs, Apple strudel and Espresso talk today.for Santos, but a little bit before my time. The thing is his legend was so big, it was just a given he was the greatest of all time, even if players like Puskas or Di Stefano could be considered all time greatest of that era as well. But no it was
Keeping on current events
7. Pele, greatest of all time? Oh that is a topic which no one will agree upon. Up until 10 years ago or so, I would have considered Pele the greatest, even if I only really saw him playing in NASL, I know I had seen him in clips of WC's and playing
8. The Worth of managers in football. I am sure everyone knows I think the whole football manger value is overblown, it is even gone to the national team managers, where I read such ridiculous stuff about managers and national teams. Obviously youcan have better managers, just like you would in a Burger king, but does a good Burger King manager mean the fries taste better? Today we have managers being credited and blamaed for every single thing that goes on. No one even knows the name of the
9. And just to keep with the MGR. topic, OK, just a rumour, but a foreign manager for Brazil? I wanna say, Germany, Italy, France
On 2022-12-30 11:03, Binder Dundat wrote:for Santos, but a little bit before my time. The thing is his legend was so big, it was just a given he was the greatest of all time, even if players like Puskas or Di Stefano could be considered all time greatest of that era as well. But no it was Pele,
So it is Eggs, Apple strudel and Espresso talk today.
Keeping on current events
7. Pele, greatest of all time? Oh that is a topic which no one will agree upon. Up until 10 years ago or so, I would have considered Pele the greatest, even if I only really saw him playing in NASL, I know I had seen him in clips of WC's and playing
can have better managers, just like you would in a Burger king, but does a good Burger King manager mean the fries taste better? Today we have managers being credited and blamaed for every single thing that goes on. No one even knows the name of the8. The Worth of managers in football. I am sure everyone knows I think the whole football manger value is overblown, it is even gone to the national team managers, where I read such ridiculous stuff about managers and national teams. Obviously you
I wonder how many people know who managed/coached Brazil in 1958 or 1962
? we hear so much about those teams, but the coaches get little mention (maybe they were folk heros in Brazil, I dunno)
Scaloni has never actually coached a club team, and came up through the junior ranks in the Argentine system. I remember him as a useful squad member, but not much more, with Deportivo La Coruña back in the early 2000s.
9. And just to keep with the MGR. topic, OK, just a rumour, but a foreign manager for Brazil? I wanna say, Germany, Italy, FranceFrance had a Romanian before Hidalgo (Kovacs). Spain had Helenio
Herrera for a while. Also Kubala.
, Spain, maybe Argentina have never had foreign managers, but everyone
else has. Is it legal? Is it moral to have foreign managers for a
national team? There is no way Brazilians will go for it? Will they?
Been a long time since they won a WC, even the Argies just won one!
So it is Eggs, Apple strudel and Espresso talk today.
Keeping on current eventsfor Santos, but a little bit before my time. The thing is his legend was so big, it was just a given he was the greatest of all time, even if players like Puskas or Di Stefano could be considered all time greatest of that era as well. But no it was Pele,
7. Pele, greatest of all time? Oh that is a topic which no one will agree upon. Up until 10 years ago or so, I would have considered Pele the greatest, even if I only really saw him playing in NASL, I know I had seen him in clips of WC's and playing
8. The Worth of managers in football. I am sure everyone knows I think the whole football manger value is overblown, it is even gone to the national team managers, where I read such ridiculous stuff about managers and national teams. Obviously you canhave better managers, just like you would in a Burger king, but does a good Burger King manager mean the fries taste better? Today we have managers being credited and blamaed for every single thing that goes on. No one even knows the name of the Argie
10. I am watching the WWEpl this morn and is the Arse for real?
manc City lost 1-1 to Everton at home but here is Arsenal leading
comfortably enough 2-0 at the half. Are they for real? I dont know
how they are doing it, but they are somehow. Are they for real? I
am gonna say yes. I wonder if Doc Who thinks so?
There is evidence that coaches make a difference. Arrigo Sacchi at Milan and the Italian national team; Fabio Capello at Milan and at Real Madrid in 1998 and in 2008;
On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 5:48:53 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:is such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 2:49:18 PM UTC, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 5:52:33 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 2:56:59 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this season
You are quite detached from reality. More people watch the Chinese and Mexican leagues than any South American league.I doubt if that's true.The World Cup is always played in the middle of the season. Ask the Brazilians. What's the difference between being in the middle of the season for Spain and being in the middle of the season for Brazil?Very few people outside South America watch South American leagues. Billions around the globe watch the top European leagues. That's the very obvious difference.
https://www.redbull.com/us-en/most-watched-soccer-leagues
But even if it was, I don't think it would make much difference to the fans. Wouldn't it be more the players that would be affected?You realize that most South American WC players play in Europe, don't you? In fact, the Saudi and Qatari leagues were better represented in the WC than South American leagues. This might help:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1345544/league-most-world-cup-players/
On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 10:06:27 AM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:season is such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 5:48:53 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 2:49:18 PM UTC, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 5:52:33 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 2:56:59 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this
You are quite detached from reality. More people watch the Chinese and Mexican leagues than any South American league.I doubt if that's true.The World Cup is always played in the middle of the season. Ask the Brazilians. What's the difference between being in the middle of the season for Spain and being in the middle of the season for Brazil?Very few people outside South America watch South American leagues. Billions around the globe watch the top European leagues. That's the very obvious difference.
https://www.redbull.com/us-en/most-watched-soccer-leagues
But even if it was, I don't think it would make much difference to the fans. Wouldn't it be more the players that would be affected?You realize that most South American WC players play in Europe, don't you? In fact, the Saudi and Qatari leagues were better represented in the WC than South American leagues. This might help:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1345544/league-most-world-cup-players/Mark, it would be good to see you acknowledge (or refute) facts/data that undermine your perceptions.
Otherwise you look like you're being deliberately dishonest.
On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 8:34:16 PM UTC, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:season is such a write off already, it just makes every thing seem so unreal.
On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 10:06:27 AM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 5:48:53 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 2:49:18 PM UTC, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 5:52:33 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 2:56:59 PM UTC, Binder Dundat wrote:
Coffee and Stollen actually, which some might say is more a fruit bread then a cake
1. The World Cup in winter, good or bad?
In general bad and that might be more because we are so used to having it in the summer, but also it seems weird to have it in the middle of the season, the disruption just seems wrong. I think the clubs and ligas dont like it, like this
You are quite detached from reality. More people watch the Chinese and Mexican leagues than any South American league.I doubt if that's true.The World Cup is always played in the middle of the season. Ask the Brazilians. What's the difference between being in the middle of the season for Spain and being in the middle of the season for Brazil?Very few people outside South America watch South American leagues. Billions around the globe watch the top European leagues. That's the very obvious difference.
https://www.redbull.com/us-en/most-watched-soccer-leagues
But even if it was, I don't think it would make much difference to the fans. Wouldn't it be more the players that would be affected?You realize that most South American WC players play in Europe, don't you? In fact, the Saudi and Qatari leagues were better represented in the WC than South American leagues. This might help:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1345544/league-most-world-cup-players/Mark, it would be good to see you acknowledge (or refute) facts/data that undermine your perceptions.
Otherwise you look like you're being deliberately dishonest.Well the most watched soccer leagues link seemed questionable. Their figures seemed strange, and I'd like to know what their source is.
On 2022-12-27 11:05, Real Mardin wrote:
When I was young all baskets in basketball counted for only 2 points. I
have heard it argued (by people complaining about hockey and the lack of scoring because GKs are so much bigger and better, and everything is all jammed up) that the introduction of the three pointer revolutionized the game of basketball by opening up space. And obviously teams do NOT
focus entirely on three pointers.
So while I don't particularly like Binder's proposal above, it can
certainly be argued that it has merit.
I would rather do away with the penalty area altogether. A foul is a
foul, and is a direct free kick. Would reduce diving and VAR nonsense.
PKs only (as in hockey) for fouls that quite clearly deny an obvious
high odds goalscoring opportunity.
The same thing is happening in soccer now. The development of xG has made coaches realize that shots from distance are generally a bad choice, and they have been declining across the board.
On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:54:49 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
The same thing is happening in soccer now. The development of xG has made coaches realize that shots from distance are generally a bad choice, and they have been declining across the board.What is xG?
On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 6:18:09 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote:
On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:54:49 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
What is xG?
The same thing is happening in soccer now. The development of xG has made coaches realize that shots from distance are generally a bad choice, and they have been declining across the board.
It's short for Expected Goals. There are a bunch of explainers around:
https://fbref.com/en/expected-goals-model-explained/ https://statsbomb.com/soccer-metrics/expected-goals-xg-explained/
From the first link: "Very simply, xG (or expected goals) is the probability that a shot will result in a goal based on the characteristics of that shot and the events leading up to it."
In a nutshell, it's a way of quantifying concepts that we are all familiar with when watching football matches:
"How on earth did he miss that?" --> xG >0.5
"A striker of his quality is expected to score from there" --> xG about 0.2 "That was a hopeful attempt" --> xG < 0.05
Is a penalty kick not 0.76 or something like that ?
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