Bleah, I missed the excitement of Brazil-Croatia, even though I can't say I am upset at the final result (sorry, Lleo and Jesus, congrats Vedran!)
12' NED-ARG 0-0
Argentina mostly on the front foot, but not much has happened so far. Spaeking of hideous jerseys, NED looks more like Pistoiese than the mighty Oranje
Bleah, I missed the excitement of Brazil-Croatia, even though I can't say I am upset at the final result (sorry, Lleo and Jesus, congrats Vedran!)
12' NED-ARG 0-0
Argentina mostly on the front foot, but not much has happened so far. Spaeking of hideous jerseys, NED looks more like Pistoiese than the mighty Oranje
On 2022-12-09 12:14, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Bleah, I missed the excitement of Brazil-Croatia, even though I can't say I am upset at the final result (sorry, Lleo and Jesus, congrats Vedran!)
12' NED-ARG 0-0
Argentina mostly on the front foot, but not much has happened so far. Spaeking of hideous jerseys, NED looks more like Pistoiese than the mighty OranjeI don't like the overall trend to solid colours that has gone on in the
past decade very much. White shorts, please !
This game, what I have seen of it so far, has been a bit dull. One of
those matches that might benefit from a couple of red cards to each
team. Given the teams involved that might even happen.
So far, the only red cards in the tournament have been for Hennessey against Iran, and Aboubakar against Brazil (and he couldn't have been happier about it)
That was ... a decent through ball by Messi
Bleah, I missed the excitement of Brazil-Croatia,
12' NED-ARG 0-0
Argentina mostly on the front foot, but not much has happened so far. Spaeking of hideous jerseys, NED looks more like Pistoiese than the mighty Oranje
Nice buildup play by Messi at the goal, and the defender's finish was also very good for a defender. Not much else to report in the first half. Holland seem a little out of their league. If this goes on like this the argies won't have too many problemsreaching the semis.
I had a small vodka while watching it. Hope I didn't break any rules. ;)
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:28:22 PM UTC-5, FF wrote:
The ref seems to favor Messi big time. He got away with a yellow card, and now a dangerous free kick completely undeserved. Fortunately nothing came out of it. What the hell is the video ref doing ? He should have intervened at both occasions.Yes, he should have gotten a yellow. But that's not something that can be reviewed based on the current VAR protocol.
The ref seems to favor Messi big time. He got away with a yellow card, and now a dangerous free kick completely undeserved. Fortunately nothing came out of it. What the hell is the video ref doing ? He should have intervened at both occasions.
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:28:22 PM UTC-5, FF wrote:
The ref seems to favor Messi big time. He got away with a yellow card, and now a dangerous free kick completely undeserved. Fortunately nothing came out of it. What the hell is the video ref doing ? He should have intervened at both occasions.Yes, he should have gotten a yellow. But that's not something that can be reviewed based on the current VAR protocol.
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:48:03 PM UTC-5, FF wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 10:32:04 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:28:22 PM UTC-5, FF wrote:Then it's done the wrong way. Yellow and red cards should be the video ref's decision, as I said 10 years ago.
The ref seems to favor Messi big time. He got away with a yellow card, and now a dangerous free kick completely undeserved. Fortunately nothing came out of it. What the hell is the video ref doing ? He should have intervened at both occasions.Yes, he should have gotten a yellow. But that's not something that can be reviewed based on the current VAR protocol.
The ref seems to be a complete joke. Now he's given a free kick to the dutch for a perfectly valid tackle. The argentinian player couldn't believe it. And I have my doubts as to the penalty. I'll need to see it again after the match.NED started to finally show some urgency after going 2-0 down, and Weghorst pulls one back. Now getting nervy for Argentina.
And now we should see some cards starting to fly
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 10:32:04 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:28:22 PM UTC-5, FF wrote:Then it's done the wrong way. Yellow and red cards should be the video ref's decision, as I said 10 years ago.
The ref seems to favor Messi big time. He got away with a yellow card, and now a dangerous free kick completely undeserved. Fortunately nothing came out of it. What the hell is the video ref doing ? He should have intervened at both occasions.Yes, he should have gotten a yellow. But that's not something that can be reviewed based on the current VAR protocol.
The ref seems to be a complete joke. Now he's given a free kick to the dutch for a perfectly valid tackle. The argentinian player couldn't believe it. And I have my doubts as to the penalty. I'll need to see it again after the match.
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:50:50 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:48:03 PM UTC-5, FF wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 10:32:04 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:28:22 PM UTC-5, FF wrote:Then it's done the wrong way. Yellow and red cards should be the video ref's decision, as I said 10 years ago.
The ref seems to favor Messi big time. He got away with a yellow card, and now a dangerous free kick completely undeserved. Fortunately nothing came out of it. What the hell is the video ref doing ? He should have intervened at both occasions.Yes, he should have gotten a yellow. But that's not something that can be reviewed based on the current VAR protocol.
The ref seems to be a complete joke. Now he's given a free kick to the dutch for a perfectly valid tackle. The argentinian player couldn't believe it. And I have my doubts as to the penalty. I'll need to see it again after the match.NED started to finally show some urgency after going 2-0 down, and Weghorst pulls one back. Now getting nervy for Argentina.
And now we should see some cards starting to fly10 minutes injury time. NED with a very dangerous free kick right at the top of the D
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:53:43 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:50:50 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:48:03 PM UTC-5, FF wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 10:32:04 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:28:22 PM UTC-5, FF wrote:Then it's done the wrong way. Yellow and red cards should be the video ref's decision, as I said 10 years ago.
The ref seems to favor Messi big time. He got away with a yellow card, and now a dangerous free kick completely undeserved. Fortunately nothing came out of it. What the hell is the video ref doing ? He should have intervened at both occasions.Yes, he should have gotten a yellow. But that's not something that can be reviewed based on the current VAR protocol.
The ref seems to be a complete joke. Now he's given a free kick to the dutch for a perfectly valid tackle. The argentinian player couldn't believe it. And I have my doubts as to the penalty. I'll need to see it again after the match.NED started to finally show some urgency after going 2-0 down, and Weghorst pulls one back. Now getting nervy for Argentina.
Berghuis onto the wallAnd now we should see some cards starting to fly10 minutes injury time. NED with a very dangerous free kick right at the top of the D
wow!
On 9.12.2022. 22:05, Futbolmetrix wrote:
wow!
ET, more yellow/red cards please.
Our match was pretty clean, especially comparing to this.
Not many QF days can match today.
On 9.12.2022. 22:05, Futbolmetrix wrote:
wow!
ET, more yellow/red cards please.
Our match was pretty clean, especially comparing to this.
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 11:44:13 PM UTC+2, anders t wrote:
Not many QF days can match today.Again.
I don't know why they bother any more with the first 120 minutes.
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 4:47:04 PM UTC-5, FF wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 11:44:13 PM UTC+2, anders t
wrote:
Not many QF days can match today.Again.
I don't know why they bother any more with the first 120
minutes.
Argentina! Messi lives another day.
An instant WC classic.
Futbolmetrix wrote:
Argentina! Messi lives another day.That was a lot closer than I thought it would be... great match to
An instant WC classic.
watch though.
The better team did win though.
On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 12:00:06 AM UTC+2,
Blueshirt wrote:
Futbolmetrix wrote:
That was a lot closer than I thought it would be... great
Argentina! Messi lives another day.
An instant WC classic.
match to watch though.
The better team did win though.
I don't think that was a penalty. I couldn't find anything
relevant, if somebody has it I'd like to see it. What I did
find was a slo-mo analysis that said the same, that it looks
like there was no foul.
Not many QF days can match today.
Argentina! Messi lives another day.
An instant WC classic.
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 2:29:00 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
On 2022-12-09 12:14, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Bleah, I missed the excitement of Brazil-Croatia, even though I can't say I am upset at the final result (sorry, Lleo and Jesus, congrats Vedran!)I don't like the overall trend to solid colours that has gone on in the
12' NED-ARG 0-0
Argentina mostly on the front foot, but not much has happened so far. Spaeking of hideous jerseys, NED looks more like Pistoiese than the mighty Oranje
past decade very much. White shorts, please !
Black shorts for Argentina!
This game, what I have seen of it so far, has been a bit dull. One of
those matches that might benefit from a couple of red cards to each
team. Given the teams involved that might even happen.
So far, the only red cards in the tournament have been for Hennessey against Iran, and Aboubakar against Brazil (and he couldn't have been happier about it)
Not many QF days can match today.
I wish you the same score than in 2018.
Amazing. 15 ? yellows in this game and no reds. How many Argentines
suspended for the next game ?
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 2:35:18 PM UTC-8, MH wrote:
Amazing. 15 ? yellows in this game and no reds. How many Argentines suspended for the next game ?17.
And the other question: Two. Acuna and Montiel.
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 2:29:00 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
On 2022-12-09 12:14, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Bleah, I missed the excitement of Brazil-Croatia, even though I can't say I am upset at the final result (sorry, Lleo and Jesus, congrats Vedran!)
12' NED-ARG 0-0
Black shorts for Argentina!Argentina mostly on the front foot, but not much has happened so far. Spaeking of hideous jerseys, NED looks more like Pistoiese than the mighty OranjeI don't like the overall trend to solid colours that has gone on in the past decade very much. White shorts, please !
On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 8:07:49 a.m. UTC-5, Mark wrote:be or what?
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:31:38 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 2:29:00 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
On 2022-12-09 12:14, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Bleah, I missed the excitement of Brazil-Croatia, even though I can't say I am upset at the final result (sorry, Lleo and Jesus, congrats Vedran!)
12' NED-ARG 0-0
Yeah why were Argentina playing in the wrong shorts? Wouldn't playing in a teams proper kit give a team a psychological advantage anyway?Black shorts for Argentina!Argentina mostly on the front foot, but not much has happened so far. Spaeking of hideous jerseys, NED looks more like Pistoiese than the mighty OranjeI don't like the overall trend to solid colours that has gone on in the
past decade very much. White shorts, please !
Netherlands didn't look as good as they did against the USA. I wonder went wrong.
Was Otamendi playing as a sweeper for Argentina?
I'm a bit disappointed about the Brazil-Croatia result; Brazil v Argentina in the semi-final would have been special. How do yous rate Luka Modric's performance. I didn't think he played that well. Is he just getting old and not as good as he used to
Croatia vs netherlands would have satisfied my "new team to win the cup" criteria, but the matches yesterday had everything, so hard to complain.felt Croatia would tie it up. AS for the other game I thought the Dutch were finished at 2-0 down, kind of felt sorry for them, though everyone was feeling sorry for the Argies when the Dutch scored the second. Anyhow, great QF day, goals ,comebacks,
I thought Modric played quite well yesterday and in this tournament in general, though the keeper and defence is what saved Croatia when it looked like Brasil were going to score in the 2nd half and seal the deal. Yet I have to say, honestly, I just
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 7:31:38 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:be or what?
On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 2:29:00 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
On 2022-12-09 12:14, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Bleah, I missed the excitement of Brazil-Croatia, even though I can't say I am upset at the final result (sorry, Lleo and Jesus, congrats Vedran!)
12' NED-ARG 0-0
Yeah why were Argentina playing in the wrong shorts? Wouldn't playing in a teams proper kit give a team a psychological advantage anyway?Black shorts for Argentina!Argentina mostly on the front foot, but not much has happened so far. Spaeking of hideous jerseys, NED looks more like Pistoiese than the mighty OranjeI don't like the overall trend to solid colours that has gone on in the past decade very much. White shorts, please !
Netherlands didn't look as good as they did against the USA. I wonder went wrong.
Was Otamendi playing as a sweeper for Argentina?
I'm a bit disappointed about the Brazil-Croatia result; Brazil v Argentina in the semi-final would have been special. How do yous rate Luka Modric's performance. I didn't think he played that well. Is he just getting old and not as good as he used to
Not to mention things that have never happened before, Games spanning over two days, Wim Weghorst scoring goals, Messi not missing PKs...
Both the Netherlands and Argentina have been formally charged with
disorder by FIFA for that match.
On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 8:23:09 AM UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
Not to mention things that have never happened before, Games spanning over two days, Wim Weghorst scoring goals, Messi not missing PKs...
Lots of debate about the picture going around of Argentinian players taunting the dejected Dutch immediately after Lautaro's penalty.
My interpretation: if you wanted Argentina to win, then trash talking and taunting are just part of the sport, deal with it.
If you wanted Argentina to lose, disgusting unsportsmanlike cheats!
On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 8:23:09 AM UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
Not to mention things that have never happened before, Games spanning
over two days, Wim Weghorst scoring goals, Messi not missing PKs...
Lots of debate about the picture going around of Argentinian players
taunting the dejected Dutch immediately after Lautaro's penalty.
My interpretation: if you wanted Argentina to win, then trash talking and taunting are just part of the sport, deal with it.
If you wanted Argentina to lose, disgusting unsportsmanlike cheats!
But the Dutch also seemed to happily (angrily?) engage into the taunting
and trash talking game. For example, when Lautaro MartĂnez began his walk from the middle of the field to the box to take the last penalty, three Dutch players approached him to try to verbally psyche him out. The linesman had to intervene to separate them. I've never seen this before, which is quite different to the usual keeper-shooter antics.
Was Otamendi playing as a sweeper for Argentina?
On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 9:14:09 PM UTC-5, Lléo wrote:
But the Dutch also seemed to happily (angrily?) engage into the taunting and trash talking game. For example, when Lautaro MartĂnez began his walk from the middle of the field to the box to take the last penalty, three Dutch players approached him to try to verbally psyche him out. The linesman
had to intervene to separate them. I've never seen this before, which is quite different to the usual keeper-shooter antics.
All true. Still, one can make the case that trash talking and mind games
are part of the game and a legitimate strategy, but the moment the final whistle goes off, you put all that aside and shake hands with your opponent. Ah well...
Indeed, and to that I say "point conceded". Some of the post-match antics could and probably should have been avoided. But that picture was taken about what, one or two seconds after the shootout was over, on a highly charged World Cup quarterfinal? Heads were still too hot at that moment,
I suppose.
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