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  • WC 2022 Day 17 MOR-ESP POR-SUI

    From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 07:23:11 2022
    20 minutes in, still 0-0 between Morocco and Spain.

    The Spain away jersey is hideous. They look like Malaga. Deserved punishment for their biscotto against Japan.

    Morocco taking the game to Spain much more than expected.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 07:28:58 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:23:13 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    20 minutes in, still 0-0 between Morocco and Spain.

    The Spain away jersey is hideous. They look like Malaga.

    Maybe I meant Celta Vigo? Amyway, it's got nothing to do with Spain

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 07:33:53 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:29:00 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:23:13 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    20 minutes in, still 0-0 between Morocco and Spain.

    The Spain away jersey is hideous. They look like Malaga.
    Maybe I meant Celta Vigo? Amyway, it's got nothing to do with Spain

    Or Man City. Or Lazio. Or Uruguay.

    I agree, it looks nothing like what we’d expect Spain to wear.


    RM

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Dec 6 07:45:12 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:33:55 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:29:00 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:23:13 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    20 minutes in, still 0-0 between Morocco and Spain.

    The Spain away jersey is hideous. They look like Malaga.
    Maybe I meant Celta Vigo? Amyway, it's got nothing to do with Spain
    Or Man City. Or Lazio. Or Uruguay.

    I agree, it looks nothing like what we’d expect Spain to wear.

    Well we did have the exact same discussion last summer when Spain's ladies wore a similar jersey against Denmark at the Euros,
    just with dark blue shorts.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    RM

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Dec 6 07:48:13 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:45:14 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Well we did have the exact same discussion last summer when Spain's ladies wore a similar jersey against Denmark at the Euros,
    just with dark blue shorts.

    And what good did it do them?

    You are supposed to be la furia roja, not playing in pastel colors.And yes, Morocco has been the better team and should be ahead

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 07:55:11 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:48:15 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:45:14 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Well we did have the exact same discussion last summer when Spain's ladies wore a similar jersey against Denmark at the Euros,
    just with dark blue shorts.
    And what good did it do them?

    You are supposed to be la furia roja, not playing in pastel colors.And yes, Morocco has been the better team and should be ahead

    Morocco has the better kit too. It actually represents their national colours.


    RM

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 08:07:18 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:48:15 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:45:14 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Well we did have the exact same discussion last summer when Spain's ladies wore a similar jersey against Denmark at the Euros,
    just with dark blue shorts.

    And what good did it do them?

    Well, they actually won the match against Denmark...

    You are supposed to be la furia roja, not playing in pastel colors.

    And they wore a similarly coloured jersey at Euro 2012 in the group game against Croatia, and they went on to win that one.

    And yes, Morocco has been the better team and should be ahead

    But yeah, fully agreed on that although I'm not terribly surprised as it's their same old tired 1000-passes-to-a-shot-off-target we already got to see so often.
    Still, I feel Spain will somehow find a win here.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Dec 6 08:29:26 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:07:22 PM UTC, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:48:15 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:45:14 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Well we did have the exact same discussion last summer when Spain's ladies wore a similar jersey against Denmark at the Euros,
    just with dark blue shorts.

    And what good did it do them?
    Well, they actually won the match against Denmark...
    You are supposed to be la furia roja, not playing in pastel colors.
    And they wore a similarly coloured jersey at Euro 2012 in the group game against Croatia, and they went on to win that one.
    And yes, Morocco has been the better team and should be ahead
    But yeah, fully agreed on that although I'm not terribly surprised as it's their same old tired 1000-passes-to-a-shot-off-target we already got to see so often.
    Still, I feel Spain will somehow find a win here.

    Ciao,

    Second half looks like one long attack v defence drill with Spain playing the role of attack.

    RM

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Dec 6 09:35:24 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:29:28 AM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    ,
    Second half looks like one long attack v defence drill with Spain playing the role of attack.

    And not very successfully. On to PKs

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 09:42:27 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:35:27 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:29:28 AM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    ,
    Second half looks like one long attack v defence drill with Spain playing the role of attack.

    And not very successfully. On to PKs

    The guy subbed in for the PKs misses.
    I think that's a Law of Nature or something.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Dec 6 09:48:30 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:42:29 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:35:27 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:29:28 AM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    ,
    Second half looks like one long attack v defence drill with Spain playing the role of attack.

    And not very successfully. On to PKs
    The guy subbed in for the PKs misses.
    I think that's a Law of Nature or something.

    He didn't do worse than all the others.

    Morocco on to the QFs

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 09:49:22 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:48:32 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:42:29 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:35:27 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:29:28 AM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    ,
    Second half looks like one long attack v defence drill with Spain playing the role of attack.

    And not very successfully. On to PKs
    The guy subbed in for the PKs misses.
    I think that's a Law of Nature or something.

    He didn't do worse than all the others.

    Morocco on to the QFs

    Sweden no longer the only European team to have lost a knock-out match against CAF opposition.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Dec 6 09:49:37 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 5:42:29 PM UTC, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:35:27 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:29:28 AM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    ,
    Second half looks like one long attack v defence drill with Spain playing the role of attack.

    And not very successfully. On to PKs
    The guy subbed in for the PKs misses.
    I think that's a Law of Nature or something.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    Madrid born Hakimi converts the last penalty to knock Spain out. All credit to the Moroccan keeper “Bono” for the saves he made.

    Morocco team all on their hands and knees praying.

    Education City Stadium looking like Casablanca.

    Incredible.


    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Dec 6 09:51:00 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 5:49:24 PM UTC, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:48:32 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:42:29 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:35:27 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:29:28 AM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    ,
    Second half looks like one long attack v defence drill with Spain playing the role of attack.

    And not very successfully. On to PKs
    The guy subbed in for the PKs misses.
    I think that's a Law of Nature or something.

    He didn't do worse than all the others.

    Morocco on to the QFs
    Sweden no longer the only European team to have lost a knock-out match against CAF opposition.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    Spain = Eurocrotto?


    RM

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Dec 6 09:55:18 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:51:02 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:

    Spain = Eurocrotto?

    Very disappointing World Cup, especially after a very impressive start.

    Morocco seems to have a lot of backing in the stands. I wouldn't discount their chances against the winner of POR-SUI

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to vedran on Tue Dec 6 10:02:00 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:56:14 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
    On 6.12.2022. 18:37, vedran wrote:

    Weird, it's penalties now and I'm not shaking.
    Something is wrong here, region was saying our group was a joke.
    This is Spain's 3rd consecutive knock out on PKs.

    Italy 1990-1998 says hi.

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Dec 6 18:37:11 2022
    On 6.12.2022. 17:29, Real Mardin wrote:

    Second half looks like one long attack v defence drill with Spain playing the role of attack.

    Weird, it's penalties now and I'm not shaking.

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to vedran on Tue Dec 6 18:56:11 2022
    On 6.12.2022. 18:37, vedran wrote:

    Weird, it's penalties now and I'm not shaking.

    Something is wrong here, region was saying our group was a joke.
    This is Spain's 3rd consecutive knock out on PKs.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 11:05:50 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:17:42 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 1:02:02 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:56:14 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
    POR-SUI

    Ronaldo benched.
    Portugal has a super-talented team, and they can easily come out on top even without Ronaldo, but:
    a) This is a huge gamble by Fernando Santos. More from a PR point of view than about actual football, but still.
    b) Whether you like Cristiano or not, there's no question that he is a larger than life character. It would be a shame if his WC career ended on a whimper.


    Say what you like about Switzerland, but unlike Spain they get away kits. All white with red trim. Finally a bit of decorum.


    RM

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 10:17:40 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 1:02:02 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:56:14 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:

    POR-SUI

    Ronaldo benched.
    Portugal has a super-talented team, and they can easily come out on top even without Ronaldo, but:
    a) This is a huge gamble by Fernando Santos. More from a PR point of view than about actual football, but still.
    b) Whether you like Cristiano or not, there's no question that he is a larger than life character. It would be a shame if his WC career ended on a whimper.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Dec 6 11:18:31 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:05:52 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:17:42 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 1:02:02 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:56:14 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
    POR-SUI

    Ronaldo benched.
    Portugal has a super-talented team, and they can easily come out on top even without Ronaldo, but:
    a) This is a huge gamble by Fernando Santos. More from a PR point of view than about actual football, but still.
    b) Whether you like Cristiano or not, there's no question that he is a larger than life character. It would be a shame if his WC career ended on a whimper.
    Say what you like about Switzerland, but unlike Spain they get away kits. All white with red trim. Finally a bit of decorum.


    Great finish by Goncalo Ramos to put Portugal ahead. Who needs Ronaldo?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?TGzDqW8=?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 11:44:35 2022
    Em terça-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2022 às 14:51:02 UTC-3, Real Mardin escreveu:
    Spain = Eurocrotto?


    I don't know, but since their World Cup winning run of 2010, Spain has played 11 WC games and won three of them: against Australia (when both sides were already eliminated), Iran and Costa Rica.

    It's as if the 2008-2012 period was the exception and we're seeing again the Spain of yore. Good teams, good players, devastating runs in the qualifying rounds and bleak final stages. Credit be given to them, though, for making
    Euro 2020 semifinals.


    --
    Lléo

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 11:34:27 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:18:33 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:05:52 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:17:42 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 1:02:02 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:56:14 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
    POR-SUI

    Ronaldo benched.
    Portugal has a super-talented team, and they can easily come out on top even without Ronaldo, but:
    a) This is a huge gamble by Fernando Santos. More from a PR point of view than about actual football, but still.
    b) Whether you like Cristiano or not, there's no question that he is a larger than life character. It would be a shame if his WC career ended on a whimper.
    Say what you like about Switzerland, but unlike Spain they get away kits. All white with red trim. Finally a bit of decorum.

    Great finish by Goncalo Ramos to put Portugal ahead. Who needs Ronaldo?

    Old man Pepe with a towering header off a corner kick. 2-0.

    Ronaldo-less Portugal looking quite impressive

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 12:11:06 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:34:29 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Ronaldo-less Portugal looking quite impressive

    3-0, Goncalo Ramos again

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 12:15:37 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:11:08 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:34:29 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Ronaldo-less Portugal looking quite impressive
    3-0, Goncalo Ramos again

    Now Portugal just being disrespectful to the poor Swiss. 4-0, Raphael Guerreiro

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 12:17:53 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:15:39 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:11:08 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:34:29 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Ronaldo-less Portugal looking quite impressive
    3-0, Goncalo Ramos again
    Now Portugal just being disrespectful to the poor Swiss. 4-0, Raphael Guerreiro

    Akanji gets one back for Switzerland. Goncalo Ramos with the assist

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 12:26:57 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:17:55 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:15:39 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:11:08 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:34:29 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Ronaldo-less Portugal looking quite impressive
    3-0, Goncalo Ramos again
    Now Portugal just being disrespectful to the poor Swiss. 4-0, Raphael Guerreiro
    Akanji gets one back for Switzerland. Goncalo Ramos with the assist

    Goncalo Ramos with the first hattrick of the World Cup. 5-1

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 12:29:15 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:26:59 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:17:55 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:15:39 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:11:08 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:34:29 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Ronaldo-less Portugal looking quite impressive
    3-0, Goncalo Ramos again
    Now Portugal just being disrespectful to the poor Swiss. 4-0, Raphael Guerreiro
    Akanji gets one back for Switzerland. Goncalo Ramos with the assist
    Goncalo Ramos with the first hattrick of the World Cup. 5-1

    Cristiano smiling on the bench, but you know that deep down he is fuming...

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 12:30:40 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 9:29:17 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:26:59 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:17:55 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:15:39 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:11:08 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:34:29 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Ronaldo-less Portugal looking quite impressive
    3-0, Goncalo Ramos again
    Now Portugal just being disrespectful to the poor Swiss. 4-0, Raphael Guerreiro
    Akanji gets one back for Switzerland. Goncalo Ramos with the assist
    Goncalo Ramos with the first hattrick of the World Cup. 5-1

    Cristiano smiling on the bench, but you know that deep down he is fuming...

    Not a single sub yet. He must be seething!!


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Dec 6 12:34:59 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 9:30:42 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 9:29:17 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:26:59 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:17:55 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:15:39 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:11:08 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:34:29 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Ronaldo-less Portugal looking quite impressive
    3-0, Goncalo Ramos again
    Now Portugal just being disrespectful to the poor Swiss. 4-0, Raphael Guerreiro
    Akanji gets one back for Switzerland. Goncalo Ramos with the assist
    Goncalo Ramos with the first hattrick of the World Cup. 5-1

    Cristiano smiling on the bench, but you know that deep down he is fuming...

    Not a single sub yet. He must be seething!!

    He's on, and graciously accepted the captain's armband.

    What are the odds on him scoring a last-minute penalty and celebrating as if he'd won the match by himself?

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 13:01:52 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:17:42 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 1:02:02 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:56:14 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
    POR-SUI

    Ronaldo benched.
    Portugal has a super-talented team, and they can easily come out on top even without Ronaldo, but:
    a) This is a huge gamble by Fernando Santos. More from a PR point of view than about actual football, but still.
    b) Whether you like Cristiano or not, there's no question that he is a larger than life character. It would be a shame if his WC career ended on a whimper.

    It took a brave man to drop Ronaldo.

    Looking at tonight’s performance, it will take an even braver man to pick him for the first XI again.


    RM

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Dec 6 21:41:05 2022
    On 6.12.2022. 21:30, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Not a single sub yet. He must be seething!!


    I don't know who this guy is, but he is streaming live from
    stadium and acting really hysterical when CR was coming in,
    there were 250k people before stream died https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGiC70EjlfY
    Created new stream
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3opbKFCgy8

    I have no idea why would someone watch this and why I'm even writing this.

    Anyway, there was a narrative "if we beat Swiss, we'll surely beat
    Portugal in R16",
    do I even have to say where did that come from...

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 22:07:56 2022
    Looking at the bracket now, I feel we are in the easier part.

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 22:26:16 2022
    On 6.12.2022. 21:26, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Goncalo Ramos with the first hattrick of the World Cup. 5-1


    One of our strikers could have also scored a hattrick... if penalties
    went to 15:15.

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to vedran on Tue Dec 6 22:29:35 2022
    On 6.12.2022. 22:26, vedran wrote:
    On 6.12.2022. 21:26, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Goncalo Ramos with the first hattrick of the World Cup. 5-1


    One of our strikers could have also scored a hattrick... if penalties
    went to 15:15.

    Actually, I think by the rules I got this wrong, so never mind.

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to vedran on Tue Dec 6 13:40:41 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:07:59 PM UTC+1, vedran wrote:
    Looking at the bracket now, I feel we are in the easier part.

    I've got to say that's a really tasty quarterfinal line-up.
    Perhaps that's where this World Cup becomes indeed memorable.


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 22:39:43 2022
    All group winners except Japan through to the QFs.
    And the runner up in Japan's group also out.


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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Dec 6 14:55:19 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 1:17:42 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 1:02:02 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:56:14 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
    POR-SUI

    Ronaldo benched.
    Portugal has a super-talented team, and they can easily come out on top even without Ronaldo, but:
    a) This is a huge gamble by Fernando Santos. More from a PR point of view than about actual football, but still.

    My respect for Santos just doubled.

    b) Whether you like Cristiano or not, there's no question that he is a larger than life character.

    There is also no question that he's a complete narcissist.

    It would be a shame if his WC career ended on a whimper.

    Not for me. In fact, I would enjoy it very much, seeing his insatiable ego being deprived of any further fuel.

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Dec 6 14:58:50 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:40:43 p.m. UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:07:59 PM UTC+1, vedran wrote:
    Looking at the bracket now, I feel we are in the easier part.
    I've got to say that's a really tasty quarterfinal line-up.
    Perhaps that's where this World Cup becomes indeed memorable.

    This is the World Cup that skill forgot. I mean come on, they cant even take penals anymore, they gonna forget how to take corner kicks next?

    I suppose from a German perspective, Spain going out is justice for them purposely losing losing to Japan. Though I get it avoiding Brasil for the easy sure thing win vs Morocco. I am probably more upset with Germany for not letting Costa Rica win and
    advance, , very unconcacafish of them.

    The QFs do actually look interesting and for those of us wanting to see an "new" team win the WC, it is certainly quite possible. Portugal have the new Ronaldo and the old one now, how can they not win it all with two Ronaldos?

    Croatia v Brazil
    Everyone thinks this will be an easy win for Brazil. First of all, after the QF stage, you never get any big blowout scores, Brasil knows that, secondly, I am not that impressed by Brasil yet and thirdly they 'threw" the game v Cameroon, you cant do
    that, karma does not allow it. I mean OK, Brasil probably will win, but it could be tough, even if the Croatian team is oldish and had to play a long game yesterday. But yes, it should be interesting and I think close.


    The Netherlands v Argentina
    Again, these later round games are always close, the players are nervous, tired and taking a more cautious approach to the matches. Argentina are all about Messi and defence this time, I think the Dutch have a well rounded team, I think they win this in
    90 mins.

    Morocco v Portugal
    Portugal have a bunch of good young players, even if they still have the 40year old Pepe playing, Morocco are a good team too, but I cant see anything but a Portugal win.

    England v France
    On paper and based on the games played so far, it would be easy to pick France to win it all. Except that it is France and England will be hungry to win their first ever WC and they just might? If Mbappe is Mbapped up for the game, I think France win,
    but if he is all Deschamped for this game, then it might be a long night.







    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to vedran on Wed Dec 7 00:24:52 2022
    On 6.12.2022. 18:37, vedran wrote:
    On 6.12.2022. 17:29, Real Mardin wrote:

    Second half looks like one long attack v defence drill with Spain
    playing the role of attack.

    Weird, it's penalties now and I'm not shaking.


    https://twitter.com/nocontextfooty/status/1600188809106161664

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to vedran on Tue Dec 6 15:43:19 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 6:56:14 PM UTC+1, vedran wrote:
    On 6.12.2022. 18:37, vedran wrote:

    Weird, it's penalties now and I'm not shaking.
    Something is wrong here, region was saying our group was a joke.
    This is Spain's 3rd consecutive knock out on PKs.

    And fourth total at World Cups, a record.

    Has the time come to transfer the cliché from England south towards the Iberian peninsula?

    (haven't looked at the EURO total)


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From FF@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 16:16:15 2022
    Damn. Just one surprise and it had to be this one.

    I understand Spain created chances but failed to convert them, so it's the same old story. To win the World Cup you have to score goals. True, they got their only one with minimal scoring, but that doesn't work very often, as can be seen.
    Anyway, if you can't score one in 120 minutes vs. Morocco, then cannot convert a single PK, really, you can't claim to be world best. That's it. Maybe next time.

    That said, this moroccan team seems to be quite strong, let's see how they do vs. Portugal.

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 7 03:16:48 2022
    On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:16:17 AM UTC, FF wrote:
    Damn. Just one surprise and it had to be this one.

    I understand Spain created chances but failed to convert them, so it's the same old story. To win the World Cup you have to score goals. True, they got their only one with minimal scoring, but that doesn't work very often, as can be seen.
    Anyway, if you can't score one in 120 minutes vs. Morocco, then cannot convert a single PK, really, you can't claim to be world best. That's it. Maybe next time.

    That said, this moroccan team seems to be quite strong, let's see how they do vs. Portugal.

    Spain dominated possession but didn't do much with it. Is that how it usually is with Spain?

    Overall I thought it was an even game and a draw was a fair result.

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