• WC2022 Day 10: ECU-SEN, NED-QTR USA-IRN, WAL-ENG [R]

    From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 29 07:14:26 2022
    Ecuador, which had been so impressive in the first two matches, all over the place in the opening minutes. Senegal should already be 2-0 up.

    NED-QTR 0-0 (not following)

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Nov 29 07:30:16 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 10:14:28 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Ecuador, which had been so impressive in the first two matches, all over the place in the opening minutes. Senegal should already be 2-0 up.

    NED-QTR 0-0 (not following)

    Gakpo. 1-0 NED.
    First place in the group probably means avoiding ENG in the R16, and a chance of a non top-6 team in the QFs if Argentina bottle it

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Nov 29 07:48:04 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 10:30:18 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 10:14:28 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Ecuador, which had been so impressive in the first two matches, all over the place in the opening minutes. Senegal should already be 2-0 up.

    NED-QTR 0-0 (not following)
    Gakpo. 1-0 NED.
    First place in the group probably means avoiding ENG in the R16, and a chance of a non top-6 team in the QFs if Argentina bottle it

    SEN up 1-0 thanks to an Ismaila Sarr penalty. Pretty uncontroversial decision.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Nov 29 10:13:16 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 3:48:06 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 10:30:18 AM UTC-5, Futbolme:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 10:14:28 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Ecuador, which had been so impressive in the first two matches, all over the place in the opening minutes. Senegal should already be 2-0 up.

    NED-QTR 0-0 (not following)
    Gakpo. 1-0 NED.
    First place in the group probably means avoiding ENG in the R16, and a chance of a non top-6 team in the QFs if Argentina bottle it
    SEN up 1-0 thanks to an Ismaila Sarr penalty. Pretty uncontroversial decision.


    FT: Ecuador 1 - Senegal 2

    FT: Qatar 0 - Netherlands 2


    Netherlands 1st, Senegal 2nd.

    Wondering if Netherlands might suit England as second round opponents more than Senegal? In terms of style of play. Does second place suit England better tonight?

    RM

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Nov 29 10:37:21 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:13:18 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    Wondering if Netherlands might suit England as second round opponents more than Senegal? In terms of style of play. Does second place suit England better tonight?

    Netherlands and likely Argentina, or Senegal and likely France. Pick your poison.
    Eventually, if you want to win the World Cup, you have to beat the best.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Nov 29 11:56:21 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:37:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:13:18 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    Wondering if Netherlands might suit England as second round opponents more than Senegal? In terms of style of play. Does second place suit England better tonight?
    Netherlands and likely Argentina, or Senegal and likely France. Pick your poison.
    Eventually, if you want to win the World Cup, you have to beat the best.

    about HT:
    WAL-ENG 0-0
    IRN-USA 0-1 (Pulisic putting his dearest assets on the line to tap in from close range)

    Yanks pretty much bossing Iran around. Weah had a second goal ruled out for offside in the dying seconds of the half. It looked very close, but VAR was very quick in confirming the linesman's decision.

    Iran needs to get its act together, or this will end up in a big win for the Big Satan

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  • From LedZep IgaSwanTech@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 29 11:56:16 2022
    USA USA USA... leading at HT... Iran look miserable so far. Wales even worse!

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Nov 29 11:55:41 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:37:23 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:13:18 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    Wondering if Netherlands might suit England as second round opponents more than Senegal? In terms of style of play. Does second place suit England better tonight?
    Netherlands and likely Argentina, or Senegal and likely France. Pick your poison.
    Eventually, if you want to win the World Cup, you have to beat the best.

    HT: Wales 0 - England 0

    HT: Iran 0 - USA 1


    As it stands England 1st, USA 2nd.

    Wales holding their own at the back, but can they find the golden chance up front?

    RM

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Nov 29 12:23:37 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:56:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:37:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:13:18 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    Wondering if Netherlands might suit England as second round opponents more than Senegal? In terms of style of play. Does second place suit England better tonight?
    Netherlands and likely Argentina, or Senegal and likely France. Pick your poison.
    Eventually, if you want to win the World Cup, you have to beat the best.
    about HT:
    WAL-ENG 0-0
    IRN-USA 0-1 (Pulisic putting his dearest assets on the line to tap in from close range)

    Yanks pretty much bossing Iran around. Weah had a second goal ruled out for offside in the dying seconds of the half. It looked very close, but VAR was very quick in confirming the linesman's decision.

    Iran needs to get its act together, or this will end up in a big win for the Big Satan

    Rashford and Kane with two quick goals for Ingerlund. That should be the end of the line for the dreadful Welsh. UEFA really needs to fix its qualifying process.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Nov 29 12:25:51 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 3:23:39 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Rashford and Kane with two quick goals for Ingerlund. That should be the end of the line for the dreadful Welsh. UEFA really needs to fix its qualifying process.

    Iran showing some signs of life, even though the USA stil looking by far the better team. They should try to get a second one quickly, who knows what can happen in a final desperate Iranian assault?

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Nov 29 13:12:51 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:23:39 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:56:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:37:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:13:18 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    Wondering if Netherlands might suit England as second round opponents more than Senegal? In terms of style of play. Does second place suit England better tonight?
    Netherlands and likely Argentina, or Senegal and likely France. Pick your poison.
    Eventually, if you want to win the World Cup, you have to beat the best.
    about HT:
    WAL-ENG 0-0
    IRN-USA 0-1 (Pulisic putting his dearest assets on the line to tap in from close range)

    Yanks pretty much bossing Iran around. Weah had a second goal ruled out for offside in the dying seconds of the half. It looked very close, but VAR was very quick in confirming the linesman's decision.

    Iran needs to get its act together, or this will end up in a big win for the Big Satan

    Rashford and Kane with two quick goals for Ingerlund. That should be the end of the line for the dreadful Welsh. UEFA really needs to fix its qualifying process.

    Yeah I wonder who they had to beat to be there.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Nov 29 13:13:50 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:25:53 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 3:23:39 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Rashford and Kane with two quick goals for Ingerlund. That should be the end of the line for the dreadful Welsh. UEFA really needs to fix its qualifying process.

    Iran showing some signs of life, even though the USA stil looking by far the better team. They should try to get a second one quickly, who knows what can happen in a final desperate Iranian assault?

    Some half-decent looks near the end, but not enough by far.

    Didn't know McKennie speaks German like a native.


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 29 13:30:31 2022
    FT: Wales 0 - England 3

    FT: Iran 0 - USA 1


    England take first place, USA second.

    Second round matches:

    England v Senegal

    Netherlands v USA


    RM

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Nov 29 22:43:29 2022
    On 29.11.2022. 22:30, Real Mardin wrote:
    FT: Wales 0 - England 3

    FT: Iran 0 - USA 1


    Iran and Ecuador needed a draw to qualify, they failed.
    We need a draw on Thursday.

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Nov 29 13:41:40 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 4:13:52 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:25:53 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 3:23:39 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Rashford and Kane with two quick goals for Ingerlund. That should be the end of the line for the dreadful Welsh. UEFA really needs to fix its qualifying process.

    Iran showing some signs of life, even though the USA stil looking by far the better team. They should try to get a second one quickly, who knows what can happen in a final desperate Iranian assault?
    Some half-decent looks near the end, but not enough by far.

    Iran really is a dreadful team. Doesn't help that football king Queiroz is their coach.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Nov 29 23:11:12 2022
    Real Mardin wrote:

    FT: Wales 0 - England 3

    FT: Iran 0 - USA 1

    England take first place, USA second.

    Second round matches:

    England v Senegal

    Senegal won't be push-overs...

    Netherlands v USA

    The Netherlands haven't looked THAT good, so far... but they should
    have enough despatch the USA.

    Two close games I think.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Nov 29 14:20:41 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 8:23:39 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:56:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:37:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:13:18 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    Wondering if Netherlands might suit England as second round opponents more than Senegal? In terms of style of play. Does second place suit England better tonight?
    Netherlands and likely Argentina, or Senegal and likely France. Pick your poison.
    Eventually, if you want to win the World Cup, you have to beat the best.
    about HT:
    WAL-ENG 0-0
    IRN-USA 0-1 (Pulisic putting his dearest assets on the line to tap in from close range)

    Yanks pretty much bossing Iran around. Weah had a second goal ruled out for offside in the dying seconds of the half. It looked very close, but VAR was very quick in confirming the linesman's decision.

    Iran needs to get its act together, or this will end up in a big win for the Big Satan
    Rashford and Kane with two quick goals for Ingerlund. That should be the end of the line for the dreadful Welsh. UEFA really needs to fix its qualifying process.

    I'm pleased you said that, because I've been waiting until tonight to say the same. As the group stage has progressed it's become more and more obvious that Wales simply aren't good enough to be at a World Cup. They had a lack of competitiveness that
    went beyond mere Eurocrotto.

    As you've alluded to, the reason they're here is the UEFA qualifiers throw certain teams softer draws than others. So while Wales had to overcome Austria and Ukraine in the playoffs, Turkey were paired with Portugal. North Macedonia's reward for
    overcoming European Champions Italy was to meet Portugal in the final of their bracket, a match which they lost.

    It didn't help that UEFA made their playoffs one leg this time. More chance of lower quality team sneaking through with a lucky win, particularly if it's drawn to play at home, which is basically what happened with Wales. To ensure balance playoffs
    should be over two legs on a home and away basis. If they absolutely have to be one leg for calendar reasons, then they need to be played at a neutral venue.

    I know it's a smaller confederation but the league system employed by CONMEBOL has one thing going for it and that's that it sends the best 4+1 teams to the World Cup.


    RM

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Nov 29 15:33:54 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 5:11:17 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    Real Mardin wrote:

    FT: Wales 0 - England 3

    FT: Iran 0 - USA 1

    England take first place, USA second.

    Second round matches:

    England v Senegal
    Senegal won't be push-overs...

    They are actually a really bad match-up for England. A gritty and physical team that likes to play cautiously.


    Netherlands v USA

    The Netherlands haven't looked THAT good, so far... but they should
    have enough despatch the USA.

    Probably. But the US is surprisingly solid, minus a reliable goalscorer. If Pulisic is out then that might be it.

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to Al Kamista on Wed Nov 30 00:56:42 2022
    On 30.11.2022. 0:31, Al Kamista wrote:

    That should read anti-football king. Like most of his Portuguese counterparts in the coaching profession.


    I wasn't even aware they sacked our coach with who they qualified for WC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragan_Skočić

    How many of those situations were lately... Halihodzic for Morocco,
    previously Muslin for Serbia, both of them didn't want to include
    stars in the team.

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to Al Kamista on Tue Nov 29 15:31:43 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 4:41:42 PM UTC-5, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 4:13:52 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:25:53 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 3:23:39 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Rashford and Kane with two quick goals for Ingerlund. That should be the end of the line for the dreadful Welsh. UEFA really needs to fix its qualifying process.

    Iran showing some signs of life, even though the USA stil looking by far the better team. They should try to get a second one quickly, who knows what can happen in a final desperate Iranian assault?
    Some half-decent looks near the end, but not enough by far.
    Iran really is a dreadful team. Doesn't help that football king Queiroz is their coach.

    That should read anti-football king. Like most of his Portuguese counterparts in the coaching profession.

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to vedran on Wed Nov 30 01:10:53 2022
    On 30.11.2022. 0:56, vedran wrote:

    I wasn't even aware they sacked our coach with who they qualified for WC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragan_Skočić

    He said that in the first match on the WC (vs England) there were a lot
    of changes and that he would never guessed the lineup, some players who
    didn't even play in qualifications were picked.
    In the second match lineup was closer to Iran which played lately,
    maybe that's why they won it :)

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  • From KaiserD2@21:1/5 to real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk on Tue Nov 29 20:14:08 2022
    Despite their finishing problems, this is surely the best US team
    ever. I was furious at Berkhalter for going all-defense in the last
    15 minutes or so, but he got away with it.

    The second goal of the US was disallowed under the offside
    interpretation that I already complained about. The attacker's feet
    were onside, his torso wasn't. It's stupid.

    Aaronson did a super imitation of Pulisic after he came in. I thought
    they lost very little if anything. Incidentally, you would never know
    how good Pulisic is based on the way that Chelsea uses him.

    England (and anyone else for that matter) will have their hands full
    with Senegal, who are growing in confidence and really have a fine
    side. Oddly, I do not remember the US ever playing Holland before.

    I thought the Spanish referee in US-Iran was outstanding.

    David K



    On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:20:41 -0800 (PST), Real Mardin
    <real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 8:23:39 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:56:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:37:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:13:18 PM UTC-5, Real Mardin wrote:
    Wondering if Netherlands might suit England as second round opponents more than Senegal? In terms of style of play. Does second place suit England better tonight?
    Netherlands and likely Argentina, or Senegal and likely France. Pick your poison.
    Eventually, if you want to win the World Cup, you have to beat the best. >> > about HT:
    WAL-ENG 0-0
    IRN-USA 0-1 (Pulisic putting his dearest assets on the line to tap in from close range)

    Yanks pretty much bossing Iran around. Weah had a second goal ruled out for offside in the dying seconds of the half. It looked very close, but VAR was very quick in confirming the linesman's decision.

    Iran needs to get its act together, or this will end up in a big win for the Big Satan
    Rashford and Kane with two quick goals for Ingerlund. That should be the end of the line for the dreadful Welsh. UEFA really needs to fix its qualifying process.

    I'm pleased you said that, because I've been waiting until tonight to say the same. As the group stage has progressed it's become more and more obvious that Wales simply aren't good enough to be at a World Cup. They had a lack of competitiveness that
    went beyond mere Eurocrotto.

    As you've alluded to, the reason they're here is the UEFA qualifiers throw certain teams softer draws than others. So while Wales had to overcome Austria and Ukraine in the playoffs, Turkey were paired with Portugal. North Macedonia's reward for
    overcoming European Champions Italy was to meet Portugal in the final of their bracket, a match which they lost.

    It didn't help that UEFA made their playoffs one leg this time. More chance of lower quality team sneaking through with a lucky win, particularly if it's drawn to play at home, which is basically what happened with Wales. To ensure balance playoffs
    should be over two legs on a home and away basis. If they absolutely have to be one leg for calendar reasons, then they need to be played at a neutral venue.

    I know it's a smaller confederation but the league system employed by CONMEBOL has one thing going for it and that's that it sends the best 4+1 teams to the World Cup.


    RM

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Wed Nov 30 00:09:18 2022
    On 2022-11-29 14:13, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:25:53 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 3:23:39 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Rashford and Kane with two quick goals for Ingerlund. That should be the end of the line for the dreadful Welsh. UEFA really needs to fix its qualifying process.

    Iran showing some signs of life, even though the USA stil looking by far the better team. They should try to get a second one quickly, who knows what can happen in a final desperate Iranian assault?

    Some half-decent looks near the end, but not enough by far.

    Didn't know McKennie speaks German like a native.

    he was at Schalke for quite some time, no ?



    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Nov 30 02:54:02 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:13:18 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:

    FT: Ecuador 1 - Senegal 2

    FT: Qatar 0 - Netherlands 2


    What went wrong for Ecuador?

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 30 06:08:32 2022
    The second goal of the US was disallowed under the offside
    interpretation that I already complained about. The attacker's feet
    were onside, his torso wasn't. It's stupid.

    That is an interesting observation as until 2005 (see below), when the
    "any part of the body that can score a goal" was introduced, the LOTG
    only specified

    nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the
    second last opponent

    and what that really meant was interpreted differently by different associations.

    USSF used to use daylight between the "torsos", then it changed to a
    more convoluted description, as in the USSF Advice from 2005, the last
    one before the change:

    Measure relative position by players' torsos, heads, and legs. No part
    of the attacking player other than the arms may be nearer the
    opponents' goal line than the torso, head or legs of the second-last
    defender. It is not necessary to "see daylight" between them for one
    to be considered nearer than the other.

    Both applying this advice, and applying the post 2005 "any part of the
    body" rule, are basically impossible to accurately apply by the AR at
    game speed.

    With all the new offside technology maybe that can be done, but anyone
    not refereeing at the top tiers, i.e. the vast majority of the referees,
    still has to deal with an impossible rule to apply.

    And the "nearer to the opponents" rule was not the original one. See
    this 2010 Guardian article on the changes to the game due to the 2005
    offside changes:

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2010/apr/13/the-question-why-is-offside-law-genius

    -- HASM

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 30 07:32:45 2022
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 8:09:22 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-11-29 14:13, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Didn't know McKennie speaks German like a native.

    he was at Schalke for quite some time, no ?

    Yeah, and that's why I might have expected him to be decent, even fluent,
    but not almost indistinguishable from a native.
    Those boyhood years he spent as an 'army brat' near Kaiserslautern
    appear to have been put to good use.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Pammiesheart@yahoo.co.uk on Wed Nov 30 15:34:29 2022
    In article <a485681c-24ee-447a-b6d2-641452eb02f9n@googlegroups.com>,
    Mark <Pammiesheart@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:13:18 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:

    FT: Ecuador 1 - Senegal 2

    FT: Qatar 0 - Netherlands 2


    What went wrong for Ecuador?

    Senegal!
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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Wed Nov 30 07:35:48 2022
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 4:34:32 PM UTC+1, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <a485681c-24ee-447a...@googlegroups.com>,
    Mark <Pammie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:13:18 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:

    FT: Ecuador 1 - Senegal 2

    FT: Qatar 0 - Netherlands 2


    What went wrong for Ecuador?

    Senegal!

    To the point! :)

    Ciao,
    Werner


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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 30 10:23:28 2022
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:15:36 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
    On 2022-11-30 08:32, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 8:09:22 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-11-29 14:13, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Didn't know McKennie speaks German like a native.

    he was at Schalke for quite some time, no ?

    Yeah, and that's why I might have expected him to be decent, even fluent, but not almost indistinguishable from a native.
    Those boyhood years he spent as an 'army brat' near Kaiserslautern
    appear to have been put to good use.
    Does he have a local accent of any kind?

    I always found it amusing that Brian Laudrup and Gattuso, for example,
    had vaguely Glaswegian accents to their fluent English.

    I was curious, so I looked up a Gattuso press conference in English. Not much Glaswegian there, but this is one of the most hilarious things I have seen in the while.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG1IH1vCvko

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Wed Nov 30 11:15:34 2022
    On 2022-11-30 08:32, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 8:09:22 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-11-29 14:13, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Didn't know McKennie speaks German like a native.

    he was at Schalke for quite some time, no ?

    Yeah, and that's why I might have expected him to be decent, even fluent,
    but not almost indistinguishable from a native.
    Those boyhood years he spent as an 'army brat' near Kaiserslautern
    appear to have been put to good use.

    Does he have a local accent of any kind?

    I always found it amusing that Brian Laudrup and Gattuso, for example,
    had vaguely Glaswegian accents to their fluent English.


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 30 11:04:31 2022
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 7:15:36 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-11-30 08:32, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 8:09:22 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-11-29 14:13, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Didn't know McKennie speaks German like a native.

    he was at Schalke for quite some time, no ?

    Yeah, and that's why I might have expected him to be decent, even fluent, but not almost indistinguishable from a native.
    Those boyhood years he spent as an 'army brat' near Kaiserslautern
    appear to have been put to good use.

    Does he have a local accent of any kind?

    I'm not an expert on German regional accents, but to me he does indeed sound vaguely
    Pfälzisch or Hessisch ('rischtisch' for 'richtig').

    Having listened to him speaking German a bit more, he does make the occasional grammatical mistake,
    or will use an anglicism, but it's really very close to native levels.

    I always found it amusing that Brian Laudrup and Gattuso, for example,
    had vaguely Glaswegian accents to their fluent English.

    Alka already shared the 'Malakia!' video. That translator had the worst job in the world that day.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Wed Nov 30 16:32:04 2022
    On 2022-11-30 12:04, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 7:15:36 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-11-30 08:32, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 8:09:22 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-11-29 14:13, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Didn't know McKennie speaks German like a native.

    he was at Schalke for quite some time, no ?

    Yeah, and that's why I might have expected him to be decent, even fluent, >>> but not almost indistinguishable from a native.
    Those boyhood years he spent as an 'army brat' near Kaiserslautern
    appear to have been put to good use.

    Does he have a local accent of any kind?

    I'm not an expert on German regional accents, but to me he does indeed sound vaguely
    Pfälzisch or Hessisch ('rischtisch' for 'richtig').

    Having listened to him speaking German a bit more, he does make the occasional grammatical mistake,
    or will use an anglicism, but it's really very close to native levels.

    I always found it amusing that Brian Laudrup and Gattuso, for example,
    had vaguely Glaswegian accents to their fluent English.

    Alka already shared the 'Malakia!' video. That translator had the worst job in the world that day.

    Based on that, Rino is out of practice. I vaguely remember he was
    married to a Glasgow lass at one point, but I could be wrong.


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Thu Dec 1 03:14:02 2022
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 3:34:32 PM UTC, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <a485681c-24ee-447a...@googlegroups.com>,
    Mark wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:13:18 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:

    FT: Ecuador 1 - Senegal 2

    FT: Qatar 0 - Netherlands 2


    What went wrong for Ecuador?
    Senegal!

    So it was Senegal that played extremely well, rather than Ecuador playing badly?

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  • From Jesus Petry@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 1 04:30:26 2022
    Em quinta-feira, 1 de dezembro de 2022 às 08:14:04 UTC-3, Mark escreveu:
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 3:34:32 PM UTC, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <a485681c-24ee-447a...@googlegroups.com>,
    Mark wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 6:13:18 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:

    FT: Ecuador 1 - Senegal 2

    FT: Qatar 0 - Netherlands 2


    What went wrong for Ecuador?
    Senegal!
    So it was Senegal that played extremely well, rather than Ecuador playing badly?

    I'd say yes. Ecuadorians can return home with their heads held high.

    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 1 05:43:59 2022
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:32:07 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
    On 2022-11-30 12:04, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 7:15:36 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-11-30 08:32, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 8:09:22 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-11-29 14:13, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Didn't know McKennie speaks German like a native.

    he was at Schalke for quite some time, no ?

    Yeah, and that's why I might have expected him to be decent, even fluent,
    but not almost indistinguishable from a native.
    Those boyhood years he spent as an 'army brat' near Kaiserslautern
    appear to have been put to good use.

    Does he have a local accent of any kind?

    I'm not an expert on German regional accents, but to me he does indeed sound vaguely
    Pfälzisch or Hessisch ('rischtisch' for 'richtig').

    Having listened to him speaking German a bit more, he does make the occasional grammatical mistake,
    or will use an anglicism, but it's really very close to native levels.

    I always found it amusing that Brian Laudrup and Gattuso, for example,
    had vaguely Glaswegian accents to their fluent English.

    Alka already shared the 'Malakia!' video. That translator had the worst job in the world that day.
    Based on that, Rino is out of practice. I vaguely remember he was
    married to a Glasgow lass at one point, but I could be wrong.

    He still is. A Scot of Italian descent.

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