On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 11:27:36 PM UTC+2, KaiserD2 wrote:

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We've renamed it Use-the-NT, a far superior competition.


Ciao,
Werner

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On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 4:27:36 PM UTC-5, KaiserD2 wrote:

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Because San Marino is probably the better team than Viktoria Plzen ;-)

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Quoting KaiserD2 in rec.sport.soccer:

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UEL is the new UCL.


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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:27:36 AM UTC+3, KaiserD2 wrote:

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Axiomatische:

People have less interest in the group stage of UCL. It’s soccer at its worst. The expectations are very high, given the budgets of the main participants. Yet, the quality of the show is low.

So, people are waiting for the knockout stage. That’s when the season of the “European Super League (ESL)” starts. The competition is tighter, the quality of the show rises.

The ESL might have some misfits come European Spring 2023. A budget is a budget. So, there is no place for the likes of Bruges, or Salzburg. Gosh, Donetsk can be in the ESL only by the powers of the European Union and NATO. After all, they succeeded in
keeping Moscow out of the fray, as it were. Ain’t it so, Frau?

"I received a phone call
From one who claimed was tall.
Then, she cursed me even worse
For my gambling on the horse."

https://saliu.com/gambling-fights.html

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Il /12 Oct 2022/, *KaiserD2* ha scritto:

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because we are still rolling on the floor, laughing, after the gobbi
game versus Maccabi

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On 2022-10-12 15:27, KaiserD2 wrote:

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We aren't. There are the usual sophisticated prediction and use the NT competitions going on, and some discussion.

I have seen very few games due to teaching schedule and stuff. Next few
rounds I should be able to watch.

Nice to see lower budget teams like Bruges and Maccabi holding their
own, but for the most part it is far too predictable. Some teams,
especially now 5 subs is with us (for good?) using a lot of the matches
as training exercises.

I know people go on about "playing at the highest level" when talking
about the UCL, and players agitating to move clubs so they can "play CL football_ like that was something magical. But so much of it is anti-climactic at the group stage level. Why would you even let star
players play even close to 90 minutes once it is clear you are through
to the next phase ? So allowing for injuries, substitutions, being
rested in unimportant games, suspensions, and getting knocked out before
the semi-finals, how many minutes do these agitating players (who may
not even be first 11 material at the top clubs) actually get to play in
this competition.

Right now the various leagues are more interesting, except perhaps for
in France.

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The 2nd half of the Barca v Inter game was quite good and between two "top teams". Though it was not a match between two top teams that I think will win it all, neither of them are their anymore, even though both have recently won it.


On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 3:10:52 p.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:

On 2022-10-12 15:27, KaiserD2 wrote:

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We aren't. There are the usual sophisticated prediction and use the NT competitions going on, and some discussion.

I have seen very few games due to teaching schedule and stuff. Next few rounds I should be able to watch.

Nice to see lower budget teams like Bruges and Maccabi holding their
own, but for the most part it is far too predictable. Some teams,
especially now 5 subs is with us (for good?) using a lot of the matches
as training exercises.

I know people go on about "playing at the highest level" when talking
about the UCL, and players agitating to move clubs so they can "play CL football_ like that was something magical. But so much of it is anti-climactic at the group stage level. Why would you even let star
players play even close to 90 minutes once it is clear you are through
to the next phase ? So allowing for injuries, substitutions, being
rested in unimportant games, suspensions, and getting knocked out before
the semi-finals, how many minutes do these agitating players (who may
not even be first 11 material at the top clubs) actually get to play in
this competition.

Right now the various leagues are more interesting, except perhaps for
in France.

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On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:48:19 PM UTC+3, Ion Saliu wrote:

On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:27:36 AM UTC+3, KaiserD2 wrote:

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Axiomatische:

People have less interest in the group stage of UCL. It’s soccer at its worst. The expectations are very high, given the budgets of the main participants. Yet, the quality of the show is low.

So, people are waiting for the knockout stage. That’s when the season of the “European Super League (ESL)” starts. The competition is tighter, the quality of the show rises.

The ESL might have some misfits come European Spring 2023. A budget is a budget. So, there is no place for the likes of Bruges, or Salzburg. Gosh, Donetsk can be in the ESL only by the powers of the European Union and NATO. After all, they succeeded in

keeping Moscow out of the fray, as it were. Ain’t it so, Frau?

"I received a phone call
From one who claimed was tall.
Then, she cursed me even worse
For my gambling on the horse."

https://saliu.com/gambling-fights.html

Update -

• https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/tcJub7ByF3M
• UEFA Champions League (UCL) Group Stage 2022-2023

See the final tables of UCL 2022-2023, the group stage; also, the last odds in the UCL group stage.

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